View Full Version : England -v- Australia ODI Series
Tintinnabulate
03-09-2009, 10:40 PM
Starts 4 September 2009 at 13:00.
There will be a total of 7 ODI's, ending 20 September 2009.
Australia should win this with ease hopefully. They did great in the 1.1 overs they bowled in the first T20.
Thread closed by invincible (Forum Super Moderator) as the series is over and the thread is turning to spam which will inevitably lead to arguements.
Andeeh
04-09-2009, 03:02 PM
lovely wicket by sidebottom just then. they need 250 to set a good score. i reckon england will do it strauss will be the bat through to the end man :)
StefanWolves
04-09-2009, 03:06 PM
england are crap!!!!1
oh wait, what's the score?
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 04:51 PM
england are crap!!!!1
oh wait, what's the score?
22/1 :)
And you need 261. Glad you agree England are crap :)
:8
Geraint
04-09-2009, 04:56 PM
22/1!? **** me, how slow's the run rate, thought they reached 260 by half 4.
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 05:27 PM
england are crap!!!!1
oh wait, what's the score?
Now I am confident that you couldn't be more right. 85/2 in 20.4 overs.
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 05:58 PM
125/3 LOL.
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 06:42 PM
168/5
Crappy England!
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178/6
LOOOL.
"You are not singing anymore"
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 07:21 PM
Lee to Wright, 1 no ball, OUT
Thats called skilled bowling (H)
Immenseman
04-09-2009, 07:22 PM
good finish my england. who gives one though we got the ashes lalalalalalal
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 07:39 PM
HAHAH England lost as expected.
Immenseman
04-09-2009, 07:43 PM
very very good fight back by england. to think they did that without arguably their best batter in ODI it pretty amazing. it looked like they were going to get done but hit back and only lost by 4 runs. a loss is a loss but still, nice to see they have the spirit. who cares though?! we have the ashes :eusa_danc
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 07:44 PM
Ashes is old news. Win the world cup and then boast :)
Immenseman
04-09-2009, 07:45 PM
It's not really old news. Maybe you're a bit sour about it, we aren't ;) good match today though, they're good entertainment value. wd to the aussies, deserved win :)
Tintinnabulate
04-09-2009, 07:51 PM
England did very well at the end. Didnt think they would get that close. Again, Aussies failing to finish off Englands tail.
Blinger1
05-09-2009, 02:28 AM
we have the ashes :eusa_danc
The second time you have held it in 20 years..
And congratulations to Australia.. i notice none of the usual posters who say england are top **** are posting.. :rolleyes:
Tintinnabulate
05-09-2009, 07:51 AM
The second time you have held it in 20 years..
And congratulations to Australia.. i notice none of the usual posters who say england are top **** are posting.. :rolleyes:
Haha thats true too!
England needs a new batting order, as the current ones are worse than the bowlers at batting.
Andeeh
05-09-2009, 01:35 PM
England played well dont get up on your high horse there are 6 games to go and first of all that was clearly and no ball that went to rashid it was above waist height no two ways about it.
i cant wait till tomorrow for another enthrualing tie.
Tintinnabulate
05-09-2009, 03:21 PM
England played well dont get up on your high horse there are 6 games to go and first of all that was clearly and no ball that went to rashid it was above waist height no two ways about it.
i cant wait till tomorrow for another enthrualing tie.
One ball doesn't change the game. Australia got many wrong decisions in the tests, don't see them moaning.
Andeeh
05-09-2009, 07:58 PM
One ball doesn't change the game. Australia got many wrong decisions in the tests, don't see them moaning.
it could have changed the game. its me moaning not the english cricket team first of all well im not even moaning more bemused, and i certainly saw australian fans complaining about the ashes so yea...
anyway i dont see why you care so much as your country isnt even involved.
Tintinnabulate
05-09-2009, 08:27 PM
Just because my country isn't involved, doesnt mean I cant take part in this discussion :)
Australia will have to work hard tomorrow, especially with the tail enders as they have nearly cost Australia the match many times.
StefanWolves
05-09-2009, 09:25 PM
The second time you have held it in 20 years..
And congratulations to Australia.. i notice none of the usual posters who say england are top **** are posting.. :rolleyes:
We have won two of the past three. :$
Immenseman
05-09-2009, 11:07 PM
people say they don't care that the aussies lost the ashes then get really worked up o.O
Hecktix
05-09-2009, 11:13 PM
Can I just remind everybody that the main point of the ashes is a friendly competition between the two teams??
Tintinnabulate
05-09-2009, 11:39 PM
Can I just remind everybody that the main point of the ashes is a friendly competition between the two teams??
Cross the word "friendly" out and you are correct.
If someone thinks the Ashes is just a friendly competition then they are really really naive.
Hecktix
05-09-2009, 11:47 PM
Cross the word "friendly" out and you are correct.
If someone thinks the Ashes is just a friendly competition then they are really really naive.
At the end of the day any sport was originated as friendly competition and in all fairness it still is - yes rivalry gets involved a lot but god I don't even think the cricket players themselves would argue as much as you.
Like Ricky Ponting said.. we'll see what happens in 2011 :S Surely that's end of story?
You just continue and continue - it's stupid. Cricket is a civilised sport at the end of the day the ashes has always been a brilliant friendly competition between two of the best cricket teams in the world and don't even bother going on "didnt do well in the world cup did you" because that's irrelevant in this discussion.
I don't appreciate being called naive, thanks.
Blinger1
06-09-2009, 05:19 AM
has always been a brilliant friendly competition between two of the best cricket teams in the world
I'm sorry but seriously, that is so untrue.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 07:47 AM
I don't appreciate being called naive, thanks.
Anyone who believes that Cricket, especially Ashes is friendly is naive. You guys just continue bragging about winning the Ashes (not surprising considering you rarely win) thanks to the rain - must mean its friendly ... :rolleyes:
Anyway, people should stop going on and on about winning just one series - "it's stupid".
And you -rep me for saying people who consider Ashes as friendly are naive? wow :rolleyes:
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Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 09:23 AM
Broad should be fit for Wednesday, incidentally. A minor neck strain. Australia are unchanged from the first ODI.
England won the toss and are bowling.
Tim Bresnan comes in for the injured Stuart Broad, while Eoin Morgan takes Adil Rashid's place, which is a shame for him, but one spinner is probably enough on this surface.
I wouldn't have dropped Rashid. Glad Broad isn't playing. There is only one person in the team who I don't like now, Prior, so I am not that bothered who wins, but I would prefer an Australian win.
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 12:29 PM
209-8.
playing well.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 12:32 PM
nicely done by england, good bowling. hopefully will win this one.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 01:34 PM
Good bowling indeed, 250 shouldnt be too hard to get.
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 01:48 PM
England will make it hard for themselves, they always do.
Looking for Bopara to get some sort of a score, he needs it.
Andeeh
06-09-2009, 01:55 PM
impressed with Luke wrights bowling, i knew it would be shown some part in this series just need to keep a steady innings. hopefully prior can get some runs under his belt
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 02:48 PM
4 overs, 3 wickets. :)
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 03:01 PM
shah is absolutely pathetic, lmao.
icon12
06-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Whats the score now.
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 03:17 PM
123-4 25 overs left.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:04 PM
england will always find a way to make it difficult.
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 04:17 PM
we've nearly lost, 170-7.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:18 PM
mhm, gna be bowled out by the looks.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Why the hell did they drop Rashid :S
England top order keeps failing them. Bowlers do a decent job, but the batsment let them down.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:32 PM
I do rate Bopara but not in ODI, he has scored steadily but so god damn slowly.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 04:40 PM
You need a brand new top order.
Geraint
06-09-2009, 04:46 PM
7 an over is perfectly possible.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:47 PM
yeah, it's not over yet but it'll be close.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Here's Ryan Sidebottom, who couldn't quite win it on Friday. What can he do this time?
Answer: Get out for zero
Blinger1
06-09-2009, 04:50 PM
8/204.. They need to make 46 runs in 6 overs..
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:51 PM
lmao, disaster.
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Whats the point in taking the powerplay when you lose wickets? :\ Should have taken it at the 6th wicket.
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 04:57 PM
i don't think they really thought this would happen
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 05:01 PM
England lost AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Immenseman
06-09-2009, 05:04 PM
i always thought who ever lost the ashes would want to win the ODIs more because at the end of the day both teams wanted the ashes. another good win by the aussies though, england really need to think about their batting!
Tintinnabulate
06-09-2009, 06:00 PM
They shouldn't have dropped Rashid, and they need new and better batsmen. Their current batsmen keep failing to perform which is a shame as the bowlers do a fantastic job. Also they reply way too much on Flintoff and KP to score runs, so thats a bad thing, as when those two aren't playing, the get new batsmen in, who are unable to perform. So they should slowly try and get better batsmen in and try and make them better.
StefanWolves
06-09-2009, 09:57 PM
Flintoff never scores runs? he goes out and gets 20 off 10 balls, which isn't really match winning.
It's simple, both teams are struggling with their batting, more so England.
-Heart
07-09-2009, 09:37 AM
We're gonna win 5-2, we're gonna win 5-2..
Anybody?
StefanWolves
07-09-2009, 11:35 AM
We're gonna win 5-2, we're gonna win 5-2..
Anybody?
There is more chance of flying a kite on the moon.
Andeeh
07-09-2009, 04:48 PM
haha its an absolute joke onions has been called in to the squad. thats not what we need we need batters that are prepared to stand up and be counted. why hasnt joyce even got a looking? top scorer in Friends provident anad so far in pro 40 i find it terrible choice by selecters.
if only dwayne smith was english
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00234/sussex_234167t.jpg
Andeeh
07-09-2009, 07:27 PM
haha its an absolute joke onions has been called in to the squad. thats not what we need we need batters that are prepared to stand up and be counted. why hasnt joyce even got a looking? top scorer in Friends provident anad so far in pro 40 i find it terrible choice by selecters.
if only dwayne smith was english
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00234/sussex_234167t.jpg
my god i love him he is on fire on a hat trick (4 wickets so far) shame im not down there tonight :'(
england need to improve to have a chance of winning the ODI series quite significantly in batting put rashid back in
HE GOT HATRICK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Tintinnabulate
07-09-2009, 07:44 PM
England bowlers are average, batsmen need replacing.
Andeeh
07-09-2009, 07:55 PM
England bowlers are average, batsmen need replacing.
i highly disagree with 'average', jimmy anderson is world class, stuart broad is developing and will come in his own soon. Flintoff, need i say more?
I hope england give joyce a chance for one of the ODI he needs to be looked at
Also cracking win for sharks
Tintinnabulate
07-09-2009, 11:19 PM
i highly disagree with 'average', jimmy anderson is world class, stuart broad is developing and will come in his own soon. Flintoff, need i say more?
I hope england give joyce a chance for one of the ODI he needs to be looked at
Also cracking win for sharks
No they really are average. In comparison to SL and SA bowlers, they are below average by their standards.
StefanWolves
07-09-2009, 11:28 PM
No they really are average. In comparison to SL and SA bowlers, they are below average by their standards.
who isn't?
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 12:02 AM
who isn't?
most other countries bowlers :)
Andeeh
08-09-2009, 03:58 PM
No they really are average. In comparison to SL and SA bowlers, they are below average by their standards.
They are all world class bowlers including the ones i have mentioned. For a 23 year old to stand up and be counted in the final test match takes a lot of skill.
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 04:59 PM
They are all world class bowlers including the ones i have mentioned. For a 23 year old to stand up and be counted in the final test match takes a lot of skill.
23 is young but there are younger players now who are more skilled.
StefanWolves
08-09-2009, 05:02 PM
23 is young but there are younger players now who are more skilled.
name a 23 year old that successfully bowled out australia in the last decisive test of a series?
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 06:07 PM
name a 23 year old that successfully bowled out australia in the last decisive test of a series?
Like I have said many times, Australia arent the worlds best anymore. South Africa, India and Sri Lanka are.
StefanWolves
08-09-2009, 06:27 PM
India? just no - Sri Lanka, nearly, South Africa, yes.
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 07:03 PM
India? just no - Sri Lanka, nearly, South Africa, yes.
Sure :) Hence Indias ranked 2nd i think or 3rd and have won their last 5 series. White wasted England, beat australia, beat sri lanka, beat pakistan, beat west indies in series ...
Yeah India suck.
StefanWolves
08-09-2009, 08:44 PM
Yes, they do, biggest cricketing nation in the world, but they aren't even the best, funny.
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 10:14 PM
They are one of the best :)
Without India, cricket would be poor.
StefanWolves
08-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Without we wouldn't have the 'Indian Premier League' which is good.
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 10:43 PM
Without we wouldn't have the 'Indian Premier League' which is good.
And whats wrong with the IPL? Apart from the fact that its paying idiots like Flintoff millions of pounds. Its the same as the football leagues here ...
Only difference is that its in India so they are able to enjoy it much more.
StefanWolves
08-09-2009, 11:06 PM
So, the two richer countries.. i.e. Australia and England, don't contribute at all? eh? pays for Flintoff, maybe, for 6 weeks, heard of central contracts? yeh.
Tintinnabulate
08-09-2009, 11:41 PM
I didnt say they (their home country) dont pay the players. Thats obvious :S
I said they IPL shouldnt be paying millions to them. Please read what I write properly before jumping to conclusions, which then lead to arguments.
Andeeh
09-09-2009, 04:12 PM
Sussex are off to India to play in the CL and try and win 7 million dollars :)
England are batting poor, its like watching a broken record.
Immenseman
09-09-2009, 04:14 PM
i hate this whole consistent selection policy. make the changes and bring good batters in. prior and bopara have been awful in these ODI
Andeeh
09-09-2009, 04:27 PM
i hate this whole consistent selection policy. make the changes and bring good batters in. prior and bopara have been awful in these ODI
As i have mentioned i would want ed joyce to come in for bopara. again he has scored another century today in CC game
Immenseman
09-09-2009, 04:33 PM
i dont even know why shah is there either
Andeeh
09-09-2009, 04:35 PM
wow out goes swann lbw. why wasnt rashid selected.
Immenseman
09-09-2009, 04:39 PM
when strauss was asked he said "for balance" :rolleyes:
Tintinnabulate
09-09-2009, 10:29 PM
when strauss was asked he said "for balance" :rolleyes:
He doesn't seem to get it in his head that its not balanced. And even if it was, it's not working. He guy does amazingly well in the match he played, so they should reselect him to motivate him further, instead they drop him and forget him. So if they select him for the next match - which they probably will - his motivation will be lower, hence affecting his performance.
Blinger1
10-09-2009, 02:07 AM
Sure :) Hence Indias ranked 2nd i think or 3rd and have won their last 5 series. White wasted England, beat australia, beat sri lanka, beat pakistan, beat west indies in series ...
Yeah India suck.
They so do suck, i mean common! Its INDIA that sucks, not ENGLAND!!!! :O:O:O how dumb are you, seriously!?
we are the championssssssss (8)
So fitting ;)
And, Australia won. Whats that i hear? 3-0??
Tintinnabulate
10-09-2009, 06:03 AM
They so do suck, i mean common! Its INDIA that sucks, not ENGLAND!!!! :O:O:O how dumb are you, seriously!?
So fitting ;)
And, Australia won. Whats that i hear? 3-0??
Hahaha. I think the rain got fed up of helping England. Lets hope for a 7-0 win.
StefanWolves
10-09-2009, 03:10 PM
who cares about odis these days, tests and t20s are the way forward.
Tintinnabulate
10-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Lol I like how they dont care when they are losing.
T20 doesnt their half their skills, it was created to attract more people to cricket ...
StefanWolves
10-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Lol I like how they dont care when they are losing.
T20 doesnt their half their skills, it was created to attract more people to cricket ...
which it has, and it will soon (give it 10+ years) be the only form of cricket, it'll go world wide, and it will get the interest of people in nations where cricket has never been heard of.
Tintinnabulate
10-09-2009, 10:34 PM
which it has, and it will soon (give it 10+ years) be the only form of cricket, it'll go world wide, and it will get the interest of people in nations where cricket has never been heard of.
Shows you don't really know anything.
Test match will always be played, whatever happens, ICC wont ever consider removing it as it was the very first form of Cricket. They even issued an official statement stating that it will never be removed.
ODI has been debated once or twice, and that was only to change a few things to make it more 'fun' for the audience, and that is why the Powerplay's were introduced, along with the appeals.
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Blinger1
11-09-2009, 02:24 AM
Lol I like how they dont care when they are losing.
So so true.. let me +rep you (again)
Andeeh
11-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Lol I like how they dont care when they are losing.
T20 doesnt their half their skills, it was created to attract more people to cricket ...
Hang on. First up i have always stated that i am much more passionate about test cricket and the longer format of the game compared to ODI and T/20. Secondly i agree that T/20 doesnt require a huge amount of skill
StefanWolves
11-09-2009, 04:57 PM
He's just out for an argument, as always, just ignore him, don't drop to his level.
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Tintinnabulate
11-09-2009, 05:03 PM
I didn't want to create a new thread for this, but India just trashed New Zealand :)
If we win our next two games, we will be ranked number 1 for ODI's :)
Smiddy
11-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Nice to see they've rested Colly for the rest of the series, did you know he was the only player to play in every England match over the last year..? Something like 13 tests, 16 ODI's and 8 T20's I think! (Also due to play in the Champions League with Delhi Daredevils after the Champions Trophy! What a rubbish schedule!)
Also rested Anderson, gives either Bresnan or Onions a chance to show their ODI worth.
My squad for the next match would be...:
Prior
Denly
Strauss
Trott (but would have to be Shah since they haven't included Trott :@)
Bopara
Wright
Rashid
Broad
Swann
Sidebottom
Onions
But, that's just me. Who will drop for Ponting, btw?
StefanWolves
11-09-2009, 09:58 PM
Shah is utter crap, my nan could run better than him between wickets. :/
Tintinnabulate
12-09-2009, 12:29 AM
Nice to see they've rested Colly for the rest of the series, did you know he was the only player to play in every England match over the last year..? Something like 13 tests, 16 ODI's and 8 T20's I think! (Also due to play in the Champions League with Delhi Daredevils after the Champions Trophy! What a rubbish schedule!)
Also rested Anderson, gives either Bresnan or Onions a chance to show their ODI worth.
My squad for the next match would be...:
Prior
Denly
Strauss
Trott (but would have to be Shah since they haven't included Trott :@)
Bopara
Wright
Rashid
Broad
Swann
Sidebottom
Onions
But, that's just me. Who will drop for Ponting, btw?
Well unfortunately, England's chances of winning is lower now for this series as Collingwood is one of the best batsmen on the team. However, its a good decision to rest him now as he will be needed for the Championship Trophy.
Blinger1
13-09-2009, 04:10 AM
*cough* (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=862364)
Aww, i notice this thread is going down hill since England are losing..
Comfortable win for Australia, again. Lee with five wickets was pretty good :D
Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 07:52 AM
Like I said, they don't care about ODI's when they are losing. When they lose in Test's next, they will call that useless too. And then T20 ...
StefanWolves
13-09-2009, 10:23 AM
*cough* (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=862364)
Aww, i notice this thread is going down hill since England are losing..
Comfortable win for Australia, again. Lee with five wickets was pretty good :D
what do you expect when it's a forum consisting of 95% English people? :eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall
Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 11:30 AM
what do you expect when it's a forum consisting of 95% English people? :eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_wall
Shows that they only boast and show off only when England wins. And they just ignore it when they lose.
Blinger1
13-09-2009, 11:59 AM
Ksoz is the only one who speaks sense here... Five wickets to Lee, second time in two series.. Not bad :)
StefanWolves
13-09-2009, 12:03 PM
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Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Strauss has been doing pretty well with the bat, but England need a few more batsmen to support him when he is out there. Collingwood is someone who can do that but they need just two more better batsmen.
Andeeh
13-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Strauss has been doing pretty well with the bat, but England need a few more batsmen to support him when he is out there. Collingwood is someone who can do that but they need just two more better batsmen.
which would of been flintoff and pietersen. i think people forget we are two world class players down.
Immenseman
13-09-2009, 05:27 PM
they should just forget their policy of picking the same players for consistency. at the end of the day i think they're in a post-ashes mentality. they wanted to win that so bad to show they are better, which they did, now they don't really care. shame but there you go.
Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 07:24 PM
which would of been flintoff and pietersen. i think people forget we are two world class players down.
Flintoff is mainly a bowler, isnt really a batter. But if your team cant win when two players are out then you are in trouble ... like now.
StefanWolves
13-09-2009, 07:33 PM
Flintoff is mainly a bowler, isnt really a batter. But if your team cant win when two players are out then you are in trouble ... like now.
would like to see how india perform without dhoni and yuvraj... :rolleyes:
Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 08:15 PM
would like to see how india perform without dhoni and yuvraj... :rolleyes:
Actually, Sehwag, Gambhir and Zaheer Khan are our best players.
We won without them against NZ? We wont without Sehwag in a series against WI?
Englands problem is that not all players perform. Only 2-3 do. India's, atleast 60% do, same for Australia, and like 90% for SA, hence they win.
And btw we have won many matches without Yuvraj. Yuvraj is an allrounder and unfortunately he doesnt always perform with the bat.
Andeeh
13-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Flintoff is mainly a bowler, isnt really a batter. But if your team cant win when two players are out then you are in trouble ... like now.
We can win without pieteresen we pretty much did in the ashes im just saying its hindering us.
I just dont understand why havent they called Ed Joyce? he has been great on south coast and its infuriating when people like shah and bopara are in and struggle to make 10
Tintinnabulate
13-09-2009, 08:59 PM
The selectors have been making all the wrong decisions.
Andeeh
14-09-2009, 03:30 PM
Yea thats true. also Luke Wright a doubt for tomorrows game
Immenseman
14-09-2009, 04:11 PM
i think wright is a decent batter and bowler. he hasn't been great in these ODI but always good for more of a 'cameo' appearance, good scorer.
StefanWolves
14-09-2009, 10:37 PM
luke wright is out, foot/ankle injury i think.
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 01:56 PM
Don't care who wins now. Australia have won the series :)
England win now, Australia won't climb to number 1 ODI spot.
Australia carry on winning, England loses :)
But still, looking at their performance in this series, you get the impression that they (England) just don't respect the one-day game enough. If you don't respect it, it won't respect you. Age-old stuff, I know. England better get their act together in the next game or they'll head to the Champions Trophy as push-overs.
^^ I fully agree. I like how I say something and the sports channels say the same things a few days later.
i.e. England not respecting ODI's. Flintoff is selfish and only cares about money and not England.
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 05:23 PM
A good score of 299 by England. Australia will need to ensure they dont lose early wickets or the pressure will be on them.
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Flintoff has turned down the England contract, but says he remains fully committed to playing T20s and ODIs for England, I never realised, but by turning down the contract, he doesn't get a wage off them, he doesn't get their health specialities paid for, he doesn't get a car that they supply, so he's turned down quite a lot. But he'll go off and make just as much money, playing in leagues all around the world.
Fair play to our Freddy! :)
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 05:47 PM
Flintoff has turned down the England contract, but says he remains fully committed to playing T20s and ODIs for England, I never realised, but by turning down the contract, he doesn't get a wage off them, he doesn't get their health specialities paid for, he doesn't get a car that they supply, so he's turned down quite a lot. But he'll go off and make just as much money, playing in leagues all around the world.
Fair play to our Freddy! :)
And you didn't believe me ... :rolleyes: and said he had signed the contract when 10 newspapers said he didnt.
If Flintoff really only cared for England, he would have signed the contract. He only cares about money.
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 05:49 PM
And you didn't believe me ... :rolleyes: and said he had signed the contract when 10 newspapers said he didnt.
If Flintoff really only cared for England, he would have signed the contract. He only cares about money.
you can't blame him for wanting to earn more money, many other cricketers are going to be doing the same soon.
adaym
15-09-2009, 05:51 PM
Nice one Rashid.
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 05:57 PM
you can't blame him for wanting to earn more money, many other cricketers are going to be doing the same soon.
I highly doubt it. Most cricketers have priority for their country. They are team players, Flintoff never was and never will be.
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Nice one Rashid.
nice wasn't it? :P
adaym
15-09-2009, 06:06 PM
Good old fashioned English name that, Adil Rashid.
Andeeh
15-09-2009, 08:39 PM
I highly doubt it. Most cricketers have priority for their country. They are team players, Flintoff never was and never will be.
Im not being funny but why are you trying to make on of our 2005 ashes heros bad? as i said earlier he can do what he likes. who could blame him going for a bit more money, it will be his last chance soon as he is nearing early retirement. I still reckon he is commited to England and would have given his right arm to play in that final test.
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Im not being funny but why are you trying to make on of our 2005 ashes heros bad? as i said earlier he can do what he likes. who could blame him going for a bit more money, it will be his last chance soon as he is nearing early retirement. I still reckon he is commited to England and would have given his right arm to play in that final test.
I am not? Just saying he is selfish and "the world's first freelance cricketer in a bid to maximize his considerable earning potential in the final years of his career."
Proof of selfishness right there :). Most, if not all, cricketers would do anything to play for their country, like Harmison.
Anyway Australia win again.
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 09:37 PM
I am not? Just saying he is selfish and "the world's first freelance cricketer in a bid to maximize his considerable earning potential in the final years of his career."
Proof of selfishness right there :). Most, if not all, cricketers would do anything to play for their country, like Harmison.
Anyway Australia win again.
can i ask how it's selfish? he's played for england for 12 years? isn't that enough?
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 09:48 PM
can i ask how it's selfish? he's played for england for 12 years? isn't that enough?
As he had no other option ...
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 09:57 PM
As he had no other option ...
course he had an option, he didn't have to sign the contract, like he has done now.
Tintinnabulate
15-09-2009, 10:19 PM
course he had an option, he didn't have to sign the contract, like he has done now.
Oh gosh, you don't get it.
He would have got the most money from England before due to IPL etc not existing ...
StefanWolves
15-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Oh gosh, you don't get it.
He would have got the most money from England before due to IPL etc not existing ...
oh yes i do. ;) :eusa_danc
Blinger1
16-09-2009, 12:53 AM
The most important factor is that england lost... AGAIN!!
StefanWolves
16-09-2009, 11:56 AM
The most important factor is that england lost... AGAIN!!
we've been loosing at odi's since i can remember, has it just became news to you? lol. :P
Tintinnabulate
16-09-2009, 07:06 PM
we've been loosing at odi's since i can remember, has it just became news to you? lol. :P
Meaning you cant remember long :S as you recently beat WI at home and away.
Tintinnabulate
17-09-2009, 08:25 PM
England on the verge of being embarassed.
Immenseman
17-09-2009, 08:27 PM
If they'd have lost the Ashes too, they'd probably care. Glad they didn't. I'd take a 7-0 whitewash, providing we won the Ashes.
Tintinnabulate
17-09-2009, 08:36 PM
But their spirit goes down after a 7-0 trashing.
Tintinnabulate
17-09-2009, 10:14 PM
And England lose again.
6-0 ... Great for a team wanting to be the best in the world.
StefanWolves
17-09-2009, 10:17 PM
And England lose again.
6-0 ... Great for a team wanting to be the best in the world.
wrong format of the game.
Jordie
17-09-2009, 10:50 PM
We're not really all that great at ODI's are we;)
-Heart
17-09-2009, 11:08 PM
And England lose again.
6-0 ... Great for a team wanting to be the best in the world.
Ah well, they won the Ashes.
WAHEY!
Blinger1
18-09-2009, 04:47 AM
The most important factor is that england lost... AGAIN!!
i think i shall quote myself.
Oh yeah, thanks England for letting us reclaim no.1 ranking place in ODI
Tintinnabulate
18-09-2009, 07:08 AM
wrong format of the game.
Strauss said "England can be the best team in the world" ... he meant overall best.
I like how this thread is slowly dieing now that England are being trasheddd. They are crap. Their players - apart from a few - are all crap. Their selectors are brain dead.
The person I feel sorry for atm is Strauss. Poor guy as he does really well but everyone else around him is crap. If they were in a different country, those players wouldnt even have made it to International level.
Immenseman
18-09-2009, 12:25 PM
some of those players helped win the ashes.
StefanWolves
18-09-2009, 01:48 PM
Strauss said "England can be the best team in the world" ... he meant overall best.
I like how this thread is slowly dieing now that England are being trasheddd. They are crap. Their players - apart from a few - are all crap. Their selectors are brain dead.
The person I feel sorry for atm is Strauss. Poor guy as he does really well but everyone else around him is crap. If they were in a different country, those players wouldnt even have made it to International level.
tbh this is a completely different thread to the ashes thread, which died, coincidently, when the ashes finished. :rolleyes:
Andeeh
18-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Strauss said "England can be the best team in the world" ... he meant overall best.
I like how this thread is slowly dieing now that England are being trasheddd. They are crap. Their players - apart from a few - are all crap. Their selectors are brain dead.
The person I feel sorry for atm is Strauss. Poor guy as he does really well but everyone else around him is crap. If they were in a different country, those players wouldnt even have made it to International level.
Im still here mate, as i have said earlier i am more passionate about the test level. This whole england ODI team should be ashamed of themselves, strauss is the only one to have peformed and he has run out of things to say we cant deliever.
I am seething that they never even tried Ed Joyce in the series and now he cant take part in this or the Champions Trophy.
Our selection was good in the ashes but shameful in the ODI process.
Tintinnabulate
18-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Im still here mate, as i have said earlier i am more passionate about the test level. This whole england ODI team should be ashamed of themselves, strauss is the only one to have peformed and he has run out of things to say we cant deliever.
I am seething that they never even tried Ed Joyce in the series and now he cant take part in this or the Champions Trophy.
Our selection was good in the ashes but shameful in the ODI process.
I have to agree with you completely :) Thats the point I was trying to get across.
Tintinnabulate
18-09-2009, 09:14 PM
Btww, after trying something (nothing related to anything on here at all), I am predicting England will win on Sunday.
Immenseman
18-09-2009, 09:16 PM
hope they do just to annoy the aussies they didn't get the whitewash against such a poor ODI side
Immenseman
20-09-2009, 12:17 PM
england on fire in the last ODI :lol:
Tintinnabulate
20-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Looks like I am better at predicting things in comparison to Derren Brown.
Immenseman
20-09-2009, 02:35 PM
i expected better from the aussies after losing the ashes you thought they'd really want to enforce a whitewash. strass just gone out for 47 though :lol:
Andeeh
20-09-2009, 03:15 PM
It has been a shameful ODI series if your an England fan, i feel sorry for all the supporters that went to watch from games 3 - 6 as to be honest we didnt peform.
It was nice to see Swann get a 5WI though
Also are batting is still failing and we only need 170 odd
Tintinnabulate
20-09-2009, 07:55 PM
6-1 isnt bad. Just what I had predicted :)
Blinger1
21-09-2009, 02:38 AM
i expected better from the aussies after losing the ashes you thought they'd really want to enforce a whitewash. strass just gone out for 47 though :lol:
The word 'whitewash' never crossed our minds. cant find the article though.
Tintinnabulate
21-09-2009, 07:35 AM
Many English fans are happy that the Aussies couldnt win 7-0.
Shouldn't they actually be very very ashamed of losing 6-1 :S :S
Blinger1
21-09-2009, 08:11 AM
Yep, although lets be honest.. It would suck if they lost in a whitewash two series in a row! (okay, they are different formats but still)
Immenseman
21-09-2009, 01:10 PM
when we look back next year we won't think damn we lost those ODI we'll think yay we won the ashes ;)
StefanWolves
21-09-2009, 03:11 PM
when we look back next year we won't think damn we lost those ODI we'll think yay we won the ashes ;)
init.
makeslonger
Immenseman
21-09-2009, 04:02 PM
great minds think alike.
StefanWolves
21-09-2009, 04:27 PM
great minds think alike.
indeed we are
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