Finally cashed out for one.

[Boonzeet]

An Apple Mac. I mean yeah I'm still probably gonna use this Windows laptop as my primary system, and Windows as one of my primary Operating System; but I guess I really wanted one; they're pretty bad-ass in style.

So yeah; I'm wondering if there's some guides or help I can get to start using the mac (esp. getting used to the keyboard; I type pretty fast on this laptop) ?

Any tips?

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[Recursion]

Just play, learn etc and have a look around for the most common mac apps.

[AlexOC]

Yeah i might get a mac soon, never had one, don't like change (i only today moved on to firefox from ie)

What browser(s) does it have pre-installed, just Safari?

[Fehm]

www.apple.co.uk theres hundreds of tut on there!

[Recursion]

www.apple.co.uk (http://www.apple.co.uk) theres hundreds of tut on there!

* http://www.apple.com/uk

[bigdavecox90]

After all the time talking about it, I'm still contemplating :P

[GommeInc]

Basically what everyone else has said - play around with them/one/it and learn what they can and can't do from that. Guides aren't really useful unless you are literally stuck. They're not too difficult to use, but they're not as practical as you would think, but it depends on what one you got. I was thinking about one, but after using one for 4 hours yesterday I'm completely off them :P

[Boonzeet]

Yeah i might get a mac soon, never had one, don't like change (i only today moved on to firefox from ie)

What browser(s) does it have pre-installed, just Safari?

Yeah, comes with Safari. Easy enough to get firefox on there.

The font rendering on mac....

I can't go back to windows. Not when fonts are THIS sexy.

Honestly, it's better than I thought.

[iCicada]

What fonts do Apple use?

[Recursion]

Yeah, comes with Safari. Easy enough to get firefox on there.

The font rendering on mac....

I can't go back to windows. Not when fonts are THIS sexy.

Honestly, it's better than I thought.

Funny thing is, OS X doesn't render fonts properly, whereas Windows does iirc.

[Boonzeet]

It renders fonts better for larger fonts, yet smaller fonts are harder to read if you're far away from the screen.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2452/fontrenderingsafari3tf8.png

[Boonzeet]

What fonts do Apple use?

It's not the fonts they use; it's the way they display the fonts. They make it far smoother than windows.


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[The Professor]

Looks very similar to how ubuntu does it.

[HotelUser]

Funny thing is, OS X doesn't render fonts properly, whereas Windows does iirc.

Tom: they are rendered properly, just differently than that Windows stuff:rolleyes:.

[Chippiewill]

Tom: they are rendered properly, just differently than that Windows stuff:rolleyes:.

It's not rendered properly, they blur it for some stupid reason.

[Recursion]

Tom: they are rendered properly, just differently than that Windows stuff:rolleyes:.


It's not rendered properly, they blur it for some stupid reason.

Dave just got toldddd +rep chippy.

[GommeInc]

Tom: they are rendered properly, just differently than that Windows stuff:rolleyes:.
Aren't fonts just fonts, that are used on both Windows and Macs? How can fonts just be "Windows stuff" :S

[The Professor]

Aren't fonts just fonts, that are used on both Windows and Macs? How can fonts just be "Windows stuff" :S

Because fanboys see the world through Apple tinted spectacles ;)

[GommeInc]

You meany ;) Does that mean Apple products appear white and glowing, and anything else appears black with red lightning striking from it? :P

[BoyBetterKnow]

It renders fonts better for larger fonts, yet smaller fonts are harder to read if you're far away from the screen.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2452/fontrenderingsafari3tf8.png

That text looks awful. Attacks my eyes almost.

[Recursion]

Aren't fonts just fonts, that are used on both Windows and Macs? How can fonts just be "Windows stuff" :S

The OS has to render a font, like a graphics card has to render a game.

[HotelUser]

Because fanboys see the world through Apple tinted spectacles ;)

Now you're making a totally irrational assumption that I must be a Mac fanboy because I like how the operating system renders fonts:S I'm not calling people Windows fanboys because they're saying they dislike OSX rendering, or like how Windows renders fonts? Seriously, if a Windows user said they like the start menu nobody says anything. If a Mac owner says they like the dock then all of a sudden they're a "fanboy". Urgh. It really bothers me to see just how many users will actually insult Mac users just because the victim likes what they use.

That's not necessarily entirely directed at you. It's a general statement directed to a large amount of Windows users who are quick to call Mac users fanboys. It's like how certain Mac users go on rants about how BSODs are so terrible, when they neglect to mention that there are Kernel Panics for OS X. Windows users can be quick to call Mac users fanboys, even though the Windows user could be a Windows fanboy themselve:P.



Dave just got toldddd +rep chippy.

How was that an "own":S In his opinion it doesn't look good. I personally think it looks sexy.


Aren't fonts just fonts, that are used on both Windows and Macs? How can fonts just be "Windows stuff" :S

Nonono. OSX renders fonts differently than Windows, and some guys for some stupid reason think that OSX renders them "wrong". No. THATS Wrong. False. Incorrect. They are just rendered differently. I've now used OS X for close to a year and have had absolutely NO problems reading fonts. In some people's opinion the font rendering might not look good. But it's certainly not wrong:P.

[The Professor]

Now you're making a totally irrational assumption that I must be a Mac fanboy because I like how the operating system renders fonts:S I'm not calling people Windows fanboys because they're saying they dislike OSX rendering, or like how Windows renders fonts? Seriously, if a Windows user said they like the start menu nobody says anything. If a Mac owner says they like the dock then all of a sudden they're a "fanboy". Urgh. It really bothers me to see just how many users will actually insult Mac users just because the victim likes what they use.

That's not necessarily entirely directed at you. It's a general statement directed to a large amount of Windows users who are quick to call Mac users fanboys. It's like how certain Mac users go on rants about how BSODs are so terrible, when they neglect to mention that there are Kernel Panics for OS X. Windows users can be quick to call Mac users fanboys, even though the Windows user could be a Windows fanboy themselve:P.

Woah, calm down dear! I just needed to use the words "Apple Tinted Spectacles", it sounded so cool in my head :8 I give up with the Mac vs PC argument anyway, its endless and pointless and its more fun to observe it from the outside and poke both sides with sticks to see who cracks first :P

[HotelUser]

Woah, calm down dear! I just needed to use the words "Apple Tinted Spectacles", it sounded so cool in my head :8 I give up with the Mac vs PC argument anyway, its endless and pointless and its more fun to observe it from the outside and poke both sides with sticks to see who cracks first :P

The problem with just reading text is that you don't know if someone is or isn't calm. I am very calm. I am just something out, that I've wanted to say for a long time :D.

[Recursion]

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000884.html Have fun.

[GommeInc]

Nonono. OSX renders fonts differently than Windows, and some guys for some stupid reason think that OSX renders them "wrong". No. THATS Wrong. False. Incorrect. They are just rendered differently. I've now used OS X for close to a year and have had absolutely NO problems reading fonts. In some people's opinion the font rendering might not look good. But it's certainly not wrong:P.
But that's just rendering, the fonts are still the same just rendered differently :P

[Nick.]

Funny thing is, OS X doesn't render fonts properly, whereas Windows does iirc.


It's not rendered properly, they blur it for some stupid reason.


Dave just got toldddd +rep chippy.


http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000884.html Have fun.

(From the link kindly provided by 'Recursion')
"I have a followup post that explains the font rendering difference. It looks like neither Apple or Microsoft is wrong; it's a question of whether you respect the pixel grid."


fun fun fun... :rolleyes:

[Recursion]

Me and HotelUser ended up agreeing on the matter late last night on MSN :$

[J0SH]

Now you're making a totally irrational assumption that I must be a Mac fanboy because I like how the operating system renders fonts:S I'm not calling people Windows fanboys because they're saying they dislike OSX rendering, or like how Windows renders fonts? Seriously, if a Windows user said they like the start menu nobody says anything. If a Mac owner says they like the dock then all of a sudden they're a "fanboy". Urgh. It really bothers me to see just how many users will actually insult Mac users just because the victim likes what they use.

That's not necessarily entirely directed at you. It's a general statement directed to a large amount of Windows users who are quick to call Mac users fanboys. It's like how certain Mac users go on rants about how BSODs are so terrible, when they neglect to mention that there are Kernel Panics for OS X. Windows users can be quick to call Mac users fanboys, even though the Windows user could be a Windows fanboy themselve:P.




How was that an "own":S In his opinion it doesn't look good. I personally think it looks sexy.



Nonono. OSX renders fonts differently than Windows, and some guys for some stupid reason think that OSX renders them "wrong". No. THATS Wrong. False. Incorrect. They are just rendered differently. I've now used OS X for close to a year and have had absolutely NO problems reading fonts. In some people's opinion the font rendering might not look good. But it's certainly not wrong:P.

How can you not call yourself a Mac fan boy, come on, there's opinions and such but do you not remember when you had a sig how Vista etc was terrible and how Mac was superior to everything else? :P

[HotelUser]

How can you not call yourself a Mac fan boy, come on, there's opinions and such but do you not remember when you had a sig how Vista etc was terrible and how Mac was superior to everything else? :P

I didn't say there are not reasons why I am a Mac fanboy?? I said liking how the OS renders fonts does not make me a fanboy, and that people use the term fanboy too loosely regarding Apple users. A lot too loosely.


Me and HotelUser ended up agreeing on the matter late last night on MSN :$

He admitted OS X doesn't render fonts wrong :D

[J0SH]

Yet again, trying to dig up more dirt on M$ in your sig ;)

I thought you were trying to say you weren't none because you did get a bit defensive in that essay I didn't read, oh well.

[Recursion]

I didn't say there are not reasons why I am a Mac fanboy?? I said liking how the OS renders fonts does not make me a fanboy, and that people use the term fanboy too loosely regarding Apple users. A lot too loosely.



He admitted OS X doesn't render fonts wrong :D

They are just rendered badly, but I guess it's, again, personal prefs :p

[HotelUser]

They are just rendered badly, but I guess it's, again, personal prefs :p

Yes, in your opinion ugly. In my opinion sexy.


Yet again, trying to dig up more dirt on M$ in your sig ;)

I thought you were trying to say you weren't none because you did get a bit defensive in that essay I didn't read, oh well.

But usually Microsoft makes beautiful hardware?

I'm absolutely in love with my Microsoft bluetooth mouse, that I use with my Apple Mac (Because Apple mice are absolute crap, and I seriously hate my mighty mouse). Can you please stop trying to find a way to show that I must be an Apple fanboy over something so petty:rolleyes:. Both companies make fantastic stuff, both companies also make stupid mistakes.

[GommeInc]

Me and HotelUser ended up agreeing on the matter late last night on MSN :$
That looks dodgy from where I'm sitting, like an old married couple in bed discussing stuff :P

[StefanWolves]

Yes, in your opinion ugly. In my opinion sexy.



But usually Microsoft makes beautiful hardware?

I'm absolutely in love with my Microsoft bluetooth mouse, that I use with my Apple Mac (Because Apple mice are absolute crap, and I seriously hate my mighty mouse). Can you please stop trying to find a way to show that I must be an Apple fanboy over something so petty:rolleyes:. Both companies make fantastic stuff, both companies also make stupid mistakes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wireless-Laser-Mouse-5000/dp/B000F5FRGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1252449654&sr=8-1

If so, I have one, and I agree. :P

[Excellent2]

I dislike Windows rendering, seems like the text is anorexic.