[SUGGESTION] Different reputation system?

[StefanWolves]

Rite, I like the current reputation system, but I find it a bit harsh and useless for people who have only a very small amount of reputation, cause if someone with 10+ rep -reps them, they're screwed. If someone with small rep tries to -rep someone with a bigger reputation count, then it doesn't effect them at all, I don't know about you lot but that seems a tad unfair.

Many forums I go on use this form of 'reputation' system, but instead they use the 'Thanks' system, like this (ignore the post):

http://i27.tinypic.com/2zxrvbk.jpg

On the forums I use this is really good, it's good for all members, and isn't bias towards newer members of the forum. This also gives people good reputation, because if they're helpful, polite, and what not, they will have a good 'Thanks' count, like so:

http://i25.tinypic.com/fwhrue.jpg

Just a suggestion, I like the current rep system, but it's a little bit flawed for newer members, IMO.

EDIT: If it is possible to implement this in specific forums (instead of the whole forum), e.g. Technology, Sports, and what not, then I think it would be a big improvement, on the current system.

[Chippiewill]

Nope, it's not complicated enough

[StefanWolves]

Shouldn't the motto be, "keep it clean and simple" ?

Or were you being sarcastic? :P

[PriceTags]

I'd like the thanks system. It's nice and simple and doesn't rank people or make negative rep an issue.

[Alkaz]

I like that idea, it would be more fair for newer users, but not for older members with considerable rep counts. Unless they were combined?

[Chippiewill]

Shouldn't the motto be, "keep it clean and simple" ?

Or were you being sarcastic? :P

No (Sarcasticly)

[dogboy123]

I like the system we have now, its fair and it almosts keeps some people behaived and I think it's good, and it doesnt need to change.

[StefanWolves]

I like both systems, maybe both could be implemented, but the 'thanks' system only on specific forums.

[Alkaz]

The thanks system would be unfair it its only implemented on certain forums as not everyone vists every single forum and posts in them to receive thanks.

[StefanWolves]

That's why you would only see the "thanks" column (by your avatar) when you visit the forum that allows the ''thanks'' system. ;)

[Arch]

I like the system we have now although it is harder for newer users but w/e
its just rep

[Immenseman]

i like the current system because i have a big rep power

[Arch]

and about the -rep comment
if you -rep someone it cuts ur rep in half so if i -rep you you'll lose 2 not 4. But if i +rep youthen you'll gain 4

[Jordy]

With the current reputation system it's very difficult to see what a users "reputation" is, there's only so many blocks you can fit on and no one can be bothered sorting through the rep powers to estimate how many rep points someone has.

With a Thanks system it's a clear number on display to everyone so the reputation is much more meaningful and it would also get rid of the nightmare -rep system which I think adds nothing useful to the forum. Unless some idiot suggested a "No Thanks" as well :P

Go for it, a thanks system is much better.

[lick]

With the current reputation system it's very difficult to see what a users "reputation" is, there's only so many blocks you can fit on and no one can be bothered sorting through the rep powers to estimate how many rep points someone has.

With a Thanks system it's a clear number on display to everyone so the reputation is much more meaningful and it would also get rid of the nightmare -rep system which I think adds nothing useful to the forum. Unless some idiot suggested a "No Thanks" as well :P

Go for it, a thanks system is much better.

the -rep system keeps brandon employed

naa i like the Thanks system but like the rep system more

[Immenseman]

yeah they're both alright. not bothered either way. i think the rep system is quite apt and have always said "why fix what isn't broken" - nothing wrong with the rep system. isn't much controversy about it any more, well not in comparison to what there was.

[e5]

I agree.

How is any of the rep systems complicated - For us, all we do it -rep/+rep people lmao:S

Good idea..
***** have this if I remember hahaha.

[Pixet]

I prefer the thanks.
There is less arguing over it but I find without rep, people are more likely to post the negative things because you can't 'unthank' someone.

[lick]

I prefer the thanks.
There is less arguing over it but I find without rep, people are more likely to post the negative things because you can't 'unthank' someone.

you can remove the thanks if you want

[Pixet]

you can remove the thanks if you want
Yeah but if you don't like someone's post, you give them -rep.
If you can't do this, chances are you'll comment them something mean which would cause arguements :)

[Chippiewill]

We should use the system that facepunch uses where you can give a tick or a cross or 'good post' or'spelling' or theoretically anything.

[Jordy]

Yeah but if you don't like someone's post, you give them -rep.
If you can't do this, chances are you'll comment them something mean which would cause arguements :)IMO there's never a need to -rep. If the post is breaking rules then it's up to the forum moderators to punish them and not me, I could always speed along this process by reporting the post.

If I don't like their post I should learn to accept their opinion or I should argue my point/counter argument with them in public or via PM rather than anonymously writing a snarky comment which is only for pathetic losers if I'm being brutally honest.

[FlyingJesus]

Isn't the thanks system basically rep where everyone only has 1 rep power? If the idea is to show everyone how helpful (or popular as obviously every such system is flawed in such a way) then just have total rep on display rather than changing the entire system

[StefanWolves]

I think it'd be better if we had both, but all in separate forums ect.

[Catzsy]

IMO there's never a need to -rep. If the post is breaking rules then it's up to the forum moderators to punish them and not me, I could always speed along this process by reporting the post.

If I don't like their post I should learn to accept their opinion or I should argue my point/counter argument with them in public or via PM rather than anonymously writing a snarky comment which is only for pathetic losers if I'm being brutally honest.

Totally agree. I have really only got used the change in the rep system - I am happy with it the way it is now.

[StefanWolves]

Still flawed for us users who are never gonna get close to 5 rep, let alone 15+ that some people have, from the days of buying VIP and getting 15 rep/buying rep points. (I think?)

[FlyingJesus]

Where's the flaw? If everyone around you has higher rep then it's clearly easier for you to get more rep out of them. Also you're confusing rep with rep power. I have 17 rep power (ie each time I rep someone they get 17 rep points, or if I -rep they lose 8) but my actual rep is 7722, which is quite different. VIP rep and buying rep only added to the rep points not power (except indirectly of course) but with the last big changes that bonus was minimalised for the most part anyway

[StefanWolves]

Where's the flaw? If everyone around you has higher rep then it's clearly easier for you to get more rep out of them. Also you're confusing rep with rep power. I have 17 rep power (ie each time I rep someone they get 17 rep points, or if I -rep they lose 8) but my actual rep is 7722, which is quite different. VIP rep and buying rep only added to the rep points not power (except indirectly of course) but with the last big changes that bonus was minimalised for the most part anyway

i know that lol, how many times do you see someone with 15 rep POWER rep someone with a rep power of 1? not much.

[The Professor]

i know that lol, how many times do you see someone with 15 rep POWER rep someone with a rep power of 1? not much.

People don't rep other people based on what their rep power is! If a new member makes a good post I'll +rep them regardless of their rep power. That's a completely moot point :S

[Immenseman]

I +rep and -rep all sorts of people, regardless of their power. I give rep to people above me and to people below me.

[StefanWolves]

People don't rep other people based on what their rep power is! If a new member makes a good post I'll +rep them regardless of their rep power. That's a completely moot point :S

I know, I didn't say that. :eusa_wall

[FlyingJesus]

i know that lol, how many times do you see someone with 15 rep POWER rep someone with a rep power of 1? not much.

If I'm honest I probably do tend to rep those with higher rep power more often than those without, but that's because they make better posts, hence having the rep in the first place

[Black_Apalachi]

I think the part of me that hates change is the only thing stopping me completely liking this idea :P. In theory it's a great idea but I'm not sure if it would be as practical on this forum. The other question that is basically being asked here is, do we need the -rep option?

I disagree with the point about it being unfair on users with lower rep powers as their reps have less of an effect on someone's reputation than those with higher reps, because the whole point is that those with higher rep powers have earned it. If this wasn't the case, it would be unfair on those who have earned it but don't have the extra power. Also, I'm pretty sure people would get confused if both systems were in place.

Overall I think people would generally be unhappy if this were to suddenly replace our rep system and I can't see nvr or Jin or anyone being too enthusiastic about scrapping it either :P.

[Grig]

There's nothing wrong with the current system. If you say something which really wasn't too smart then you may get - reped. You can feel free to appeal it and it is often sucesfull.

Plus creating a new system would anger many who already have a lot of rep.

[JACKTARD]

we could keep the system as it is but have a little thing at the side by the name with rep score.

[Jordy]

There's nothing wrong with the current system. If you say something which really wasn't too smart then you may get - reped. You can feel free to appeal it and it is often sucesfull.

Plus creating a new system would anger many who already have a lot of rep.Well first of all, there seems a positive response to either scrapping the -rep system or moving to a "Thanks" system. There doesn't really seem much opposition to it so some more research should be conducted (Maybe a Poll by the forum management) and some opinions from the management but overall I think the reception is pretty good.

I think it's wrong to say the old system doesn't have any problems, first of all a lot of people have said they would prefer change, but also the rep system gets many complaints, there is the issue with dealing with -reps and that the rep system needs to be adjusted every so often due to people getting ever so high amounts of rep.

[Immenseman]

It won't ever be adjusted again, unless a whole new system was introduced. It never needs fiddling with, it's perfect as it is. I don't mind if people would rather use a Thanks system, I don't see how it's any better but hey, that's my opinion.

Also, I'm really against the removing of -rep. Not just because I have a big rep power but because what's the point of having a +rep when you can't give -rep. It's just people are scared of being -repped. Imagine your school implemented a new system "Teachers can only praise you, no longer criticise". When there is one there needs to be another else the +rep becomes less meaningful.

[FlyingJesus]

Well first of all, there seems a positive response to either scrapping the -rep system or moving to a "Thanks" system. There doesn't really seem much opposition to it so some more research should be conducted (Maybe a Poll by the forum management) and some opinions from the management but overall I think the reception is pretty good.

I think it's wrong to say the old system doesn't have any problems, first of all a lot of people have said they would prefer change, but also the rep system gets many complaints, there is the issue with dealing with -reps and that the rep system needs to be adjusted every so often due to people getting ever so high amounts of rep.

Have you read this thread? Most people have stated their support for the current (or older) system. As for people complaining about -rep, that's just because no-one likes being told they're wrong and has always been a problem

[StefanWolves]

Have you read this thread? Most people have stated their support for the current (or older) system. As for people complaining about -rep, that's just because no-one likes being told they're wrong and has always been a problem

no actually it's about a 50/50 split.

[FlyingJesus]

Nope, it's not complicated enough

Against


I'd like the thanks system. It's nice and simple and doesn't rank people or make negative rep an issue.

For


I like that idea, it would be more fair for newer users, but not for older members with considerable rep counts. Unless they were combined?

For but...


The thanks system would be unfair it its only implemented on certain forums as not everyone vists every single forum and posts in them to receive thanks.

Later against


I like the system we have now, its fair and it almosts keeps some people behaived and I think it's good, and it doesnt need to change.

Against


I like the system we have now although it is harder for newer users but w/e
its just rep

Against


i like the current system because i have a big rep power

Against


With the current reputation system it's very difficult to see what a users "reputation" is, there's only so many blocks you can fit on and no one can be bothered sorting through the rep powers to estimate how many rep points someone has.

With a Thanks system it's a clear number on display to everyone so the reputation is much more meaningful and it would also get rid of the nightmare -rep system which I think adds nothing useful to the forum. Unless some idiot suggested a "No Thanks" as well :P

Go for it, a thanks system is much better.

For


the -rep system keeps brandon employed

naa i like the Thanks system but like the rep system more

Against


I prefer the thanks.
There is less arguing over it but I find without rep, people are more likely to post the negative things because you can't 'unthank' someone.

For


Totally agree. I have really only got used the change in the rep system - I am happy with it the way it is now.

Against


Overall I think people would generally be unhappy if this were to suddenly replace our rep system and I can't see nvr or Jin or anyone being too enthusiastic about scrapping it either :P.

Against


There's nothing wrong with the current system. If you say something which really wasn't too smart then you may get - reped. You can feel free to appeal it and it is often sucesfull.

Plus creating a new system would anger many who already have a lot of rep.

Against


we could keep the system as it is but have a little thing at the side by the name with rep score.

Against


I've left out e5 as I'm not sure who he was agreeing with, but even if he's for the thanks idea that's 11 (including me) vs 5 (including you as thread starter and giving you e5 as a special gift), not quite 50/50

This is also not counting Professor-Alex as he didn't state a definite view on it, although it seemed against you

[Dusty-09]

I like this, it's quite good, maybe it could be for example: Dusty-09 likes this post, TheWolf likes this post, dogboy123 dislikes this post. Similar to thanks but like/dislike?


A good suggestion!

Edit: read what jordy said, don't flame me for saying it it's just a suggestion!