Derren Brown - How To Control The Nation

[-Heart]

Anybody else going to watch it?

It's tonight at 9 on Channel 4. It probably won't work, but it'll be interesting.

For anyone who doesn't know what it is, basically Derren Brown is going to attempt to stick the nation to their seats by watching some sort of video. More information here: http://derrenbrown.channel4.com/derren-brown-the-events-control.shtml.

[Swearwolf]

i'm gonna watch it standing up

[-Heart]

"It'll be an interactive experience, with viewers able to phone Derren on the night to relay what happened" - http://derrenbrown.channel4.com/derren-brown-the-events-control.shtml.

Hmm...

[Hecktix]

I'm quite scared tbh...

[paul4wolves]

i'm gonna watch it standing up

LOL I wonder what would happen, nothing probabily.

[edgates]

I think probably, if you don't want it to work/ won't let it work, it most likely won't.

I'm going to watch, really hope it works on me. :)

[The Professor]

I'm gonna end up watching it lying on my bed so idk how it'll affect me :P

[Antallica]

if he pulls this off. hes epic

[Oleh]

itll be one of those things where you think you cant get up (dont let yourself)

[The Professor]

itll be one of those things where you think you cant get up (dont let yourself)

orly? I thought he was gonna come into my house and glue me to my seat! :P

[ecstasy]

i want it to work, but i dont think it will...
if it does it will be pretty amazing

[Pixet]

This had made me all excited. Should be a good laugh. :)

[Neil]

I don't think he's gonna do it to be honest, if he just did it without mention then it could work but now peoples brains are prepared for it and know he's going to try it so it probably wont work, would be sweet if it did though.

[Jordan3606]

Im looking forward to it, I hope it works, but I doubt it will :P

Probably one of those things that happens just because someone is telling you it will happen, so you fool yourself into thinking you are 'stuck' to your seat

[Xoim]

It Looks So Interesting, we should all post the results like if he did control you or not 8)

[Middlesbrough]

I have a courtcase, I watch it while holding a frying pan full of boiling water, when I fall and merk up my face I take him to court and get moneys!

[Pixet]

"Please have a mobile handy because if you get stuck you won't be able to reach far".

LOL. Omg. If it works it'll be so freaky.
*fingers crossed*

[-Heart]

I might ring and shout abuse at him, pretending that the trick has forced me to lose all my teeth and my tounge.

Random, but he'll still get ******* sued.

[Neil]

I might ring and shout abuse at him, pretending that the trick has forced me to lose all my teeth and my tounge.

Random, but he'll still get ******* sued.

I'm sure they have a disclaimer somewhere if it is meant to work, if you take part then it's at your own risk sort of thing, so you can't sue him for making you stick to the sofa because you willingly decided to take part.

[Meanies]

That joe guy with the chair was a set up...
he had a microphone thing in his jeans because you could see the lump where they tried to hide it and his shirt was hooked on it

[Immenseman]

mhmmmm i'm such a sceptical person. i'd only believe it if it happened to me.

[kk.]

I'm sure they have a disclaimer somewhere if it is meant to work, if you take part then it's at your own risk sort of thing, so you can't sue him for making you stick to the sofa because you willingly decided to take part.

youre right. Like i said before, they told you at the beginning of the show that it contains subliminal messaging

[crazed]

Did u just see that, like 3 mins ago, that flasing image. Came up for like half a second. This will be summat stupid like, you all got stuck because none of you left ur seat during or summat.

[buttons]

omg lol at number 5
that's really creepy, i dunno if i want to watch :( talkin bout getting hysterical :S

[Neil]

Yea I can't imagine it'll be something that impressive but it's fun to be able to take part, not everyday someone tries to stick you to your chair through a TV.

[cocaine]

his homeless experiment was in watford town centre

[jackass]

Did u just see that, like 3 mins ago, that flasing image. Came up for like half a second. This will be summat stupid like, you all got stuck because none of you left ur seat during or summat.

Yeah I saw it, wasn't it a wheel chair?

I kinda turned round from my computer and saw it :P.

[kk.]

Did u just see that, like 3 mins ago, that flasing image. Came up for like half a second. This will be summat stupid like, you all got stuck because none of you left ur seat during or summat.

Yeh, i rewound because i wasnt paying attention, i saw it flash whilst i was looking at computer. It was a picture of a person sitting down. black and white image

[Pixet]

I'm sitting on my bed so it shouldn't work anyway. Keep seeing the man on the chair though.

Was fun but thankfully I'm fine :)
LOL @ The audience!!

[Neil]

I didn't get stuck but I did feel like I was being pushed back when I stood up. xD

[crazed]

Wow. It started working with like my feet. I couldn't move them or lift them. then they just worked?

[zaphod9642]

fail didnt work on me and there was two subliminal messages one before and one after the film anyone else notice this?

[Misawa]

There have been subliminal messages throughout the entire show. It's all nonsense. Subliminal messaging does work, but not in cases such as making you "stick to your seat". This is a placebo effect, by putting your mind to a belief, and it can work with ANYTHING. The subliminal messaging is a gimmick, like last week.

[ElliottThompson]

im... NOT STUCK :D

[zaphod9642]

its just fail anyone got a pic of the subliminal message he used yet?

and he has said things like the most intelegent smartest etc people wont be able to get up so you want to be that:/

and he dont tell us what he did noob :/

[Nikki]

its some kind of con, i dno how but it is otherwise he would be an millionaire.

[Neil]

I think it's just that it forces you into a comfortable place, it has nothing to do with subliminal messages, you're body like shuts off then you haven't got the energy to stand up.

[brandon]

All these instructions are on the screen probably because you're listening to recorded phone calls.

[kk.]

There have been subliminal messages throughout the entire show. It's all nonsense. Subliminal messaging does work, but not in cases such as making you "stick to your seat". This is a placebo effect, by putting your mind to a belief, and it can work with ANYTHING. The subliminal messaging is a gimmick, like last week.

which is exactly what he said. He said it wont work if youre not open minded. Maybe you should stop being so opinionated and orcing everyone else to think what youre thinking. Seriously, every thread ive seen you in, mainly films obviously..

[luce]

fail didnt work on me and there was two subliminal messages one before and one after the film anyone else notice this?

i saw the one afterwards. I didn't even get to stage where i thought i should "let myself go". I was like well this is a fail. Anyone on this forum get stuck..

[Pixet]

I do think there is something sly about this. If he can do it, why hasn't the government used it for more seriously purposes?

Amusing though.

[Neil]

I find it funny, people say "it's fail" when he clearly says it wont work for everyone, watch it again, sit closer and relax, you never know.

[ecstasy]

anyone get stuck?

[kk.]

I do think there is something sly about this. If he can do it, why hasn't the government used it for more seriously purposes?

Amusing though.

He told you why at the beginning. The UN ruled that is was a serious breach of human rights

[Xoim]

Didn't work ;l

[crazed]

I think the images played a part in this. I think it was a man/ woman in a wheelchair. The idea being that he plants these images in your head so you think you're the one using the wheelchair, just like he did with the woman and the giraffe?

[Neil]

I think the images played a part in this. I think it was a man/ woman in a wheelchair. The idea being that he plants these images in your head so you think you're the one using the wheelchair, just like he did with the woman and the giraffe?

The images looked more like someone just laying back in a recliner chair to me but you don't exactly get long to find out

[zaphod9642]

right people who are mornging about people saying fail etc here are the facts he used

he has said you must be open minded creative and basically smarter better also two subliminal messages one before one after the "video" so he used subliminal messages and also he used our mind to want to be the best...

[MrPinkPanther]

It didn't work on me as such but I really felt it when he was playing the video. When the lines were vertical I felt nothing but as they moved to horizontal everything just got heavy and then as they moved to vertical again it passed.

[Mathew]

30 people viewing this thread :P
I wasn't stuck, but felt a bit more heavy.. very clever stuff.

[Xoim]

I think the images played a part in this. I think it was a man/ woman in a wheelchair. The idea being that he plants these images in your head so you think you're the one using the wheelchair, just like he did with the woman and the giraffe?

Seems Plausible ...
I might re-try it on +1

See If it works then.

[Ontario]

failed on me .

[dogboy123]

didnt get stuck :(

I kept moving my eyes around the screen, so I dunno if i was supposed to focus on one spot

[Neversoft]

I'm stuck! Not. Didn't work. :(

[Hecktix]

I could stand up but I couldnt move one of my legs.

I was sat on the end of my bed.

[Xoim]

didnt get stuck :(

I kept moving my eyes around the screen, so I dunno if i was supposed to focus on one spot

I focused on one spot, didn't make a difference
I only felt slightly Heavier.

Thats it :L

[lPinoy]

didn't work for me but my legs did feel pretty heavy for a while

[kk.]

ill take a picture of the image for u lot if you like?

[luce]

i looked at the middle and watched by maybe too deeply i thought it was a man on a recliner. Also however he got people to stick doesn't matter it's still an amazing thing to be able to do?

also my arms felt heavy on my legs

[Neil]

Watch it again but sit closer, he says it seems to work better the closer you are to the screen.

[dogboy123]

yeah i did feel a bit heavy, i recon thats just cause u want to feel it and he kept implying it so meh

I feel a bit lightheaded aswell :S

[efq]

Oldest trick in the book, ever done the push your arm against something for a minute then let go and it floats up.
I hate the ******* fact that stupid people watch this and he makes millions. Anybody can do what he does.

So yeah it's possible like everything else he does, they know what the mind and body does when reacting to these things. It's your automatic and involuntary action.

[<Nick>]

MY hands started shaking and moving without my control...

im going to watch it again on 4+1 sitting in a chair this time instead of my bed

[Neil]

Oldest trick in the book, ever done the push your arm against something for a minute then let go and it floats up.
I hate the ******* fact that stupid people watch this and he makes millions. Anybody can do what he does.

So yeah it's possible like everything else he does, they know what the mind and body does when reacting to these things. It's your automatic and involuntary action.

That is so completely different from what he's doing? Watch it. :rolleyes:

[Immenseman]

i followed everything perfectly. no distractions... did it work... did it hell!

[cocaine]

there were two subliminal image flashes - one of a man in a recliner at the start of the clip and one at the end - which was the man in the wheelchair.

i felt quite heavy but could stand up, i just think the position you're sitting in and the fact you're made to completely relax made you feel weak

[kk.]

ok so, so far, he had 50%, weve had 0%

[efq]

That is so completely different from what he's doing? Watch it. :rolleyes:
See, gullable people fall for this stuff. It isn't magic or tricks.

I watched it, if you google it, its an illusion and has been performed more times than you've blinked. It's your mind and physics, it does things when things happen. Simple not confusing at all.

Staring at something tricks your mind into different states, also being told things that you want to believe takes control and what you think doesn't control you. Youtube illusions and see what happens.

[dogboy123]

i followed everything perfectly. no distractions... did it work... did it hell!

Well according to him you must have done something wrong?

Thing that baffles me if it was serious enought that you couldnt move for about 3 minutes, are they allowed to air it? Peopl could have panick attacks etc, in the studio if they were truley stuck then they had him there and everything, people living on their own that could be very dangerous?

[zaphod9642]

its jsut fail like his other programme

[<Nick>]

ok so, so far, he had 50%, weve had 0%

lets watch it again on 4+1 and it dont work this time its a scam :D

this time change the place where u was sitting and try get no distractions

[Immenseman]

yeah im gna do 4+1. i want it to work, it just doesn't, lol ¬.¬

[efq]

Anyway, he caused tons of anger to Channel 4 after the lottery thing cause it was such a fake rigging people complained. Ratings for this won't be as high.

[dogboy123]

lets watch it again on 4+1 and it dont work this time its a scam :D

this time change the place where u was sitting and try get no distractions

You cant say that, it all depends on how you look at it

You cant get an accurate prediction from about 100 people :S

[Immenseman]

you can kinda though ben. i know what you're saying but if not one person on the whole of hxf and people i know irl didn't get stuck then.... y'kno it's not even like 1%

[Xoim]

50 People viewing this thread... O_o

I can make Jake stick to a chair -winx
:love3:

[Neil]

See, gullable people fall for this stuff. It isn't magic or tricks.

I watched it, if you google it, its an illusion and has been performed more times than you've blinked. It's your mind and physics, it does things when things happen. Simple not confusing at all.

Staring at something tricks your mind into different states, also being told things that you want to believe takes control and what you think doesn't control you. Youtube illusions and see what happens.

I'm actually not gullible, but I'm open to things, unlike you, it didn't work on me, but he says himself it wont work for everyone and the fact it might not work due to your surroundings, a lot of people on this forum already said themselves it makes them heavy, what he did had an effect, it just wasn't a full effect, you are not as smart as you seem to think you are, you're not some sort of "big special" kid that thinks you can put words in peoples mouths, go sit down and be quiet because I don't really care what you have to say because a closed mind is the mind of a fool. :)

[kk.]

Image straight after the 2nd break:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2167/img0037wg.jpg

[Lost_Addict]

my head and neck felt heavy... thats about it.

afterwards i turned to my mum and went TADAAAA and stood up lmao XD

[Xoim]

Image straight after the 2nd break:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2167/img0037wg.jpg

Lol irl.
+rep thanks.

[efq]

I'm actually not gullible, but I'm open to things, unlike you, it didn't work on me, but he says himself it wont work for everyone and the fact it might not work due to your surroundings, a lot of people on this forum already said themselves it makes them heavy, what he did had an effect, it just wasn't a full effect, you are not as smart as you seem to think you are, you're not some sort of "big special" kid that thinks you can put words in peoples mouths, go sit down and be quiet because I don't really care what you have to say because a closed mind is the mind of a fool. :)
No I believe it works, I never doubt what he does doesn't work. But the fact he gets all this hype when ANY person in the world could do the same thing makes me mad.

He is a good ILLUSIONIST, but if he says he's magic one more time, I will have to hit someone. Pisses me off.

[Immenseman]

omg lol at image

[dogboy123]

I wondered what that was, it flashed a few times

he really does fail at trying to get nobody to notice it

[efq]

He flashes images up at every show btw, his gathering had 'Forgotten' flash up in the corner.

[<Nick>]

Image straight after the 2nd break:
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2167/img0037wg.jpg
#
so i did see it then no1 else in my house did :/

[Misawa]

Then, Mr. kk, you're obviously foolish and naive if you don't know that it's a placebo effect, which requires no Derren Brown, and works with anything in the entire world.

[Jessie]

;l Guys, it was a bit of fun. Just becuase some of us didnt get stuck doesnt mean it doesnt work.

NOW STOP BEING SO GRUMPY!!!
>;D

[Invent]

My elbows/arms felt like they were stuck to my legs which made it feel impossibly difficult to stand up for a few minutes.

[Neil]

No I believe it works, I never doubt what he does doesn't work. But the fact he gets all this hype when ANY person in the world could do the same thing makes me mad.

He is a good ILLUSIONIST, but if he says he's magic one more time, I will have to hit someone. Pisses me off.

He doesn't say it's magic once? In fact he doesn't even say anything that says he's doing something that only he can do, he gets all this hype because he decided to get up and actually do it, I don't see you doing it, anyone can do half of the stupid jobs people on TV do, X-Factor, Big Brother staff for example, it's just another job, it's entertainment, chill out. :rolleyes:

[Sly]

that guy stuck to his seat was *REMOVED* freekyyy did u seee it the flashy image thing eek

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[MJJ]

Well, I thought it wouldn't work but he sounded pretty serious when he was talking about it.

I thought my legs felt a bit heavy afterwards, but I guess that was just because I was hoping something would happen.

[Jordan3606]

I didnt get stuck to my seat, but my body felt really heavy, and I felt kind of dizzy. If I casually tried to get up, I couldnt, but that always happens when you're relaxed enough.

When I really tried to push myself up, I could quite easily. Whereas there were some people in the studio with Derren that couldnt get up at all, even when pushing really hard :/ Weird.

It worked to a degree, but it didnt stop me from getting up :P

[efq]

Then, Mr. kk, you're obviously foolish and naive if you don't know that it's a placebo effect, which requires no Derren Brown, and works with anything in the entire world.
Exactly, he just messes with your mind, give me a camera broadcast and i'll do the same easily.

@Neil: The fact at his lottery trick, millions of gullable people thought he actually predicted it, he made millions off that and what we got back was nothing, it wasn't even entertainment. He himself, lost a lot of fans because of that stupid stunt. I didn't see David Copperfield trying to get the limelight and make tons of money. David Copperfield is much better than Derren Brown, where as Derren Brown is seeking money.

[dogboy123]

"Well, I thought it wouldn't work but he sounded pretty serious when he was talking about it."



Or maybe that was just trying to suck you in and to make you believe you were going to get stuck?

[Andys]

No I believe it works, I never doubt what he does doesn't work. But the fact he gets all this hype when ANY person in the world could do the same thing makes me mad.

He is a good ILLUSIONIST, but if he says he's magic one more time, I will have to hit someone. Pisses me off.
He never calls himself magic.
you are a complete ******.

[Immenseman]

i will concede my leg twitched a couple of times and it felt like it locked up, only for a second or so though. maybe that was more psychological anyway.

[Xoim]

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
(A)

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[kk.]

Then, Mr. kk, you're obviously foolish and naive if you don't know that it's a placebo effect, which requires no Derren Brown, and works with anything in the entire world.

Thats not what i was saying.. I was on about how you seem to enter threads that interest you, give your opinion, and anyone that disagrees will get a bashing with words from you. Lets see, you were bias in the inglorious thread because lets see, isnt this the film that you worked on? With tarentino? Hm, you ripped district 9 because it was being rated 9 on IMDB because you thought it was bad. Have you ever thought that people dont really give a crap what critics say and they judge for themselves? Because D9 was actually a great film, according to real people

Just so everyone knows, that image was the same throughout the show

[efq]

He never calls himself magic.
you are a complete ******.
Go watch on 4oD all of his shows, including the gathering. Also he might aswell tell everyone how he does it, cause more and more people are getting angry at his lies.

[Immenseman]

i wonder what the overall success rate was :l doesnt appear to be 50% as far as i can see.

[Pixet]

He told you why at the beginning. The UN ruled that is was a serious breach of human rights

Oh sorry, I didn't hear that part. I was only watching the main thing. :)

[Lost_Addict]

No I believe it works, I never doubt what he does doesn't work. But the fact he gets all this hype when ANY person in the world could do the same thing makes me mad.

He is a good ILLUSIONIST, but if he says he's magic one more time, I will have to hit someone. Pisses me off.

Actually he quite clearly states in almost everyone of his shows he doesn't believe in magic or being phycic so seriously dude get your facts right first.

[MJJ]

Or maybe that was just trying to suck you in and to make you believe you were going to get stuck?

Actually, that's what I thought as well. I didn't think that short clip had anything to do with it, and that he was just trying to persuade you that it would work, but it was a bit strange how some of those people literally couldn't get out of their seats.

[<Nick>]

I think he ment 50% it will do somthing to people not 50% will be stuck to their chairs

[Immenseman]

yeah and they genuinely looked like they were trying hard to move away :/

[efq]

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)

[<Nick>]

Actually, that's what I thought as well. I didn't think that short clip had anything to do with it, and that he was just trying to persuade you, but it was a bit strange how some of those people literally couldn't get out of their seats.

they could be very good actors :)

[MJJ]

they could be very good actors :)

Doesn't he say that he doesn't use actors or stooges though?

Not sure if he mentioned it during the programme, so maybe they were.

[Andys]

Go watch on 4oD all of his shows, including the gathering. Also he might aswell tell everyone how he does it, cause more and more people are getting angry at his lies.
He's clearly stated many times that he's is not magic.

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)
You are an idiot.
This is exactly why it did not work on you.

[Immenseman]

yeha he always makes a point they're not actors. until it happens to me. i can't believe it. just the way i am!

[Lost_Addict]

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)

i think you may be the idiot here.. he's an entertainer.. he does not get paied millions. and compared to footballers who only kick a bloody ball around i quite enjoy watching him.

personally i hate footballers and the hundreds of millions they get paied for nothing -.- gets me so frustrated

[jackass]

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)

Jealous much?

[<Nick>]

But on the other hand they did look really stuck :/

[efq]

Look he is a good illusionist, no better than any other illusionist or even person. The fact he has managed to manipulate millions of people to believe he can do things for real when they are just trickery and then lie to us makes me mad.

Overall yeah he's good at illusions, he should keep it up. He shouldn't lie like an ******* though.


Edit: I ain't jealous at all, lmao. I have had this chair thing done to me before, I've looked at illusions online and youtube and they work. But he doesn't deserve to get away with tricking people to believe he's doing it for real. Reason why Channel 4 got a bollocking from its viewers :)

[dogboy123]

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)

Its called illusions.

[Neil]

Go watch on 4oD all of his shows, including the gathering. Also he might aswell tell everyone how he does it, cause more and more people are getting angry at his lies.

To be honest I've never seen anyone get angry, it's entertainment, who cares, if you're so smart why don't you go to BBC and ask for a contract, I'm sure if you're as good as Derren you'll outshine him and earn more. :rolleyes:


Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)

seems like your just jealous he's earning his living from something that he's good at, the real hustle use illegal cons to earn their living, that's lies and deception and you don't cry about that, just get over it it's kinda sad you're getting all worked up because of the way he makes money.

[Immenseman]

But on the other hand they did look really stuck :/
yeah like that old geezer shaking trying to get up lol

[Pixet]

I'm not joining this debate but Derren Brown always reinforces that he plays with your mind. Suggestion, psychology, showmanship and misdirection.

Camera trickery and lies or not. People still watch him and enjoy his show. He is far more skilled than you and that's why he can get away with things like this. I see no point in getting wound up. It won't do anything.

[MrPinkPanther]

Give me a bloody Channel 4 broadcast a camera, split screen and I'll ******* predict the lottery for the next million years. I'll also make you get stuck to your chair and pick whatever card you bloody want.

Out of all the people, Derren Brown makes millions from nothing. His ******** lies are just idiotic. (Oh stamp on this cup, and this cup, and this cup, these numbers are the lottery...)
You're saying that because your argument is falling apart. So you think Derren Brown somehow stages all of his live shows using camera trickery? Because that doesn't make sense.

[Neil]

You're saying that because your argument is falling apart. So you think Derren Brown somehow stages all of his live shows using camera trickery? Because that doesn't make sense.

Exactly, clearly this guy has no idea what psychology is, which is what Derren kinda uses in just about everything he does.

[<Nick>]

yeah like that old geezer shaking trying to get up lol

yeah did u see hes legs they was like shaking lol

my hands started shaking when i watched it no effect to my legs or back though :P

[efq]

Not all of them, the lottery was camera trickery, this last show he probably got from a book or google :/

Yeah I know it is all
psychology, showmanship and misdirection. and he does say that. But tell me why out of thousands of others, this guy who I had never heard of before this crap gets hype like theres no tomorrow? David Copperfield would of been more entertaining.

[Immenseman]

yeah did u see hes legs they was like shaking lol

my hands started shaking when i watched it no effect to my legs or back though :P
haaaaa, yeah. we should all watch it on +1 and get really close and have like SILENCE in the house. no distractions, really pay so much attention. to be fair, i didn't really get the head radius thing?

[<Nick>]

Not all of them, the lottery was camera trickery, this last show he probably got from a book or google :/

Okay....

[<Nick>]

haaaaa, yeah. we should all watch it on +1 and get really close and have like SILENCE in the house. no distractions, really pay so much attention. to be fair, i didn't really get the head radius thing?

Lets do it jake... i had my mum loling at me so i couldnt really pay much attention

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[cocaine]

this last show he probably got from a book or google :/

yes, the font of all derren brown's knowledge comes from a book or google.

[Immenseman]

same my step-mum and dad really scoff at me even trying and my dad came in just at the end and my step-mum shouted are you stuck. so when i say i had no distractions i suppose they do count as distractions really.

[Kardan]

During the film my right hand had the urge to just shoot up in the air, but that was it, I wasn't stuck :( Neither was the other 3 people in the room as me :(

[efq]

yes, the font of all derren brown's knowledge comes from a book or google.
Well I can assure you it ain't any of his own doings. Just a copier.

I ain't going to argue anymore. He's a good illusionist, he just has to much attention for his lack of skills in doing it. If he brings something new that has never been done then i'd be impressed.

[Pixet]

Derren gets taught everything. He doesn't figure it out himself although you never hear from the people who actually teach him. I know that one guy's called Colin. He looks like the chubby one from McFly.

I think it would be nice to see from the people who do teach him but Derren has something special about him that makes him fit the part. :)

[Oleh]

Its funny that people complain about what he does, but its not as if the people complaining can go out and do what he does :P

Wasnt the slightest bit stuck

[Neil]

Well I can assure you it ain't any of his own doings. Just a copier.

Copy? He kinda gives a little like lecture about the origin of subliminal messaging and everything, you really aren't very smart are you? He never says anything he does is his own stuff, he just says it's never been done on TV before. :rolleyes:

Just be quiet, you're making it worse for yourself.

[Andys]

this last show he probably got from a book or google :/
yeah thats why he studied it for years at university.

*REMOVED*

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[Immenseman]

Its funny that people complain about what he does, but its not as if the people complaining can go out and do what he does :P

Wasnt the slightest bit stuck
i'm not really sure what he did. paid 15 actors to pretend to be stuck and it didn't work for anybody else :P haha i joke.

[<Nick>]

same my step-mum and dad really scoff at me even trying and my dad came in just at the end and my step-mum shouted are you stuck. so when i say i had no distractions i suppose they do count as distractions really.


ha its coming on now jake turn the lights off lol! im kemb btw incase u didnt no babes

[Kardan]

For all we know he could have controlled us to subconciously commit mass suicide in a few weeks time :P

But I hope he reveals how he did all of these stuns at the end of the series :)

[<Nick>]

ahhh its coming on lol

[efq]

For all we know he could have controlled us to subconciously commit mass suicide in a few weeks time :P

But I hope he reveals how he did all of these stuns at the end of the series :)
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=stuck+to+chair+illusion Chair Illusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8 Lottery Illusion

[Pixet]

I'll try it again right now.
I had the number in my phone last time lol. Fail :(

Edit: Never mind. Didn't work again. :s

[Immenseman]

lol i was on facebook and quite a few stauses about this obv and someone said "i got stuck, the chair was too small" made me laugh lmao :S

hiya nick xx

[Kardan]

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=stuck+to+chair+illusion Chair Illusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8 Lottery Illusion

Yes, but Derren will explain the subliminal messages throughout tonight and probably previous shows to make us do it :)

[efq]

Yes, but Derren will explain the subliminal messages throughout tonight and probably previous shows to make us do it :)
He's lied so far, so what intentions has he got in telling the truth?
He'll probably make something up to get more viewers in, more money.

[MrPinkPanther]

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=stuck+to+chair+illusion Chair Illusion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8 Lottery Illusion
Link 1 is nothing. You've googled it and there are little or no relevant results, congratulations.

Link 2 is a theory about how Derren Brown did it so if anything that guy is copying Derren? So you've just disproved your point.

[Neil]

I just watched again and as watching the message I do feel extremely heavy, but still not stuck to the chair, if I tried to get up during the part I feel heavy during I don't think I'd be able too.

[<Nick>]

nothing this time what so ever no distractions but i was a bit far from the tv this time i dont know if that effects it..

[Tintinnabulate]

Its funny that people complain about what he does, but its not as if the people complaining can go out and do what he does :P

Wasnt the slightest bit stuck

What? Use a split screen? No one wants to waste their time.

[Hecktix]

IT WORKED

I sat on my bed the first time but I watched it on +1 and actually got stuck.

It was so weird

When I got up it actually hurt.

It didn't last too long though x

[efq]

Link 1 is nothing. You've googled it and there are little or no relevant results, congratulations.

Link 2 is a theory about how Derren Brown did it so if anything that guy is copying Derren? So you've just disproved your point.
Read through the pages and links, tell's you how to do it and how it's done.

The video just shows how easy it is to do it and why those weird camera shakes throughout the whole live show made it even clearer.

[Neil]

What? Use a split screen? No one wants to waste their time.

Prove he used split screen.

[efq]

Prove he used split screen.
No shadows got involved in that side of screen until he walked over there. The camera shook from side to side every single second, camera man drunk? Think not.

[<Nick>]

IT WORKED

I sat on my bed the first time but I watched it on +1 and actually got stuck.

It was so weird

When I got up it actually hurt.

It didn't last too long though x


lol nice didnt work on me this time :'(

[Immenseman]

nope, didn't work second time although was on my bed, not a proper seat like the first time. mhm.

[kk.]

No shadows got involved in that side of screen until he walked over there. The camera shook from side to side every single second, camera man drunk? Think not.

have you tried to hold an actual TV broadcasting camera? Probably not. Im not denying it wasnt split screen, just, youre very cynical

[Tintinnabulate]

didnt work on +1 either. he is a fake.

[Immenseman]

this is scandalous. i'd love for him to come out and say it was all fake and all the people who said they got stuck were lying lol. would be epic.

[Pixet]

How to be a psychic spy is his next stunt. Looks interesting. And sounds more believable this time.

[efq]

have you tried to hold an actual TV broadcasting camera? Probably not. Im not denying it wasnt split screen, just, youre very cynical
Lol, no camera moves as much as that does, honestly.

I don't want to argue anymore, leave it be. We all have our own views.

[Immenseman]

yeah, should be better, maybe something even remotely constructive this time around.

[Firehorse]

I rewound and tried 3 times... didn't work once.

[<Nick>]

this is scandalous. i'd love for him to come out and say it was all fake and all the people who said they got stuck were lying lol. would be epic.

Especially the man who looked like he was dooing a number 2 :eusa_clap

[Kardan]

Lol, no camera moves as much as that does, honestly.

I don't want to argue anymore, leave it be. We all have our own views.

What do you mean that no camera moves around that much? I'm pretty sure if you shake a camera up and down really fast, then it would shake really fast? :S

[Neil]

Lol, no camera moves as much as that does, honestly.

I don't want to argue anymore, leave it be. We all have our own views.

What the hell is wrong with your brain? Have you never used a camera before?! Those camera weigh quite a lot and even a small hand-held camera is hard to keep steady without some form of tripod.

Edit - Lol bad repped, shame whoever it was didn't leave a name. :)

[Japan]

wow 29 people viewing the thread.
Anyway that was a complete fail, my sister didn't get stuck to the chair.

[efq]

Lol, its on a tripod as this video shows, its deliberetly moved up and down, side to side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeXOGfiqxg

If you can't believe that then you are unbeatable.

[<Nick>]

What the hell is wrong with your brain? Have you never used a camera before?! Those camera weigh quite a lot and even a small hand-held camera is hard to keep steady without some form of tripod.

Edit - Lol bad repped, shame whoever it was didn't leave a name. :)

Obv who it was lol + yeah he had no tripod so there is a reason why that camera moved that much


Edit- i dont see no tripod in that vid..

[Misawa]

Thats not what i was saying.. I was on about how you seem to enter threads that interest you, give your opinion, and anyone that disagrees will get a bashing with words from you. Lets see, you were bias in the inglorious thread because lets see, isnt this the film that you worked on? With tarentino? Hm, you ripped district 9 because it was being rated 9 on IMDB because you thought it was bad. Have you ever thought that people dont really give a crap what critics say and they judge for themselves? Because D9 was actually a great film, according to real people

Just so everyone knows, that image was the same throughout the show

Actually, if you read, I thought District 9 was a great film. And my opinion of Inglourious *******s is totally unbiased, and D9 does indeed pale in comparison. I make movies for a living and I critique them for a living. You can't get much more real than a professional with an encylopaedic knowledge of film. So there you go, chap.

[Kardan]

Lol, its on a tripod as this video shows, its deliberetly moved up and down, side to side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeXOGfiqxg

If you can't believe that then you are unbeatable.

If you're referring to the video that 'cuts' back. You do know that that was used to switch from pre-recorded to live. The bit before they switch to camera 2 is re-recorded, then they switch to re-recorded footage of camera 2, then switch back to camera one but it's now live. Or that's what all the evidence suggests. I thought everyone had figured out the shaking was a digital feature added after recording anyway?

Ahh, it wasn't the cut back video. But yes, I thought it was digitally added in, the shake, as not to make the split screen any harder? Why does it matter anyway, we all know he DIDN'T predict the lottery and it was more of a fact of getting the numbers on the balls, not predicting the numbers.

[kk.]

Lol, its on a tripod as this video shows, its deliberetly moved up and down, side to side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeXOGfiqxg

If you can't believe that then you are unbeatable.

youre not getting what were saying. I was saying that have you ever tried to hold a camera whilst filming, A small one, as said, is hard enough. The whole point was that it was 'meant to be' handheld which obviously it wasnt, but thats not what i was saying

[efq]

If you're referring to the video that 'cuts' back. You do know that that was used to switch from pre-recorded to live. The bit before they switch to camera 2 is re-recorded, then they switch to re-recorded footage of camera 2, then switch back to camera one but it's now live - and not on a tripod. Or that's what all the evidence suggests. I thought everyone had figured out the shaking was a digital feature added after recording anyway?
I didn't understand half of that but I know this was the camera that broadcasted live on my television when Channel 4 said it would. I've never seen a camera move in such a square shaped way in my life that it was unbelieveable.

If it was a feature, what a odd reason to add it in for then?

[kk.]

Actually, if you read, I thought District 9 was a great film. And my opinion of Inglourious *******s is totally unbiased, and D9 does indeed pale in comparison. I make movies for a living and I critique them for a living. You can't get much more real than a professional with an encylopaedic knowledge of film. So there you go, chap.

I dont know how you can say its completely unbiased if you worked on it. Seriously. If I'd worked on something id be doing my best to promote it, similar to when im designing.. Professionals dont tend to be the best critics, if you havnt noticed. Theyll nit pick through anything, film, tv, art, game, and point out all the bad points, tending to completely miss the good. Reviews from real people tend to be the most reliable, as they are real people. They think about things the same as most and so know what people like.

[Rarelime]

I don't know if anyone else had this happen to them, but for some reason I just burst out laughing partway through the video :S

Might try it again when it becomes available on demand.

[Misawa]

I dont know how you can say its completely unbiased if you worked on it. Seriously. If I'd worked on something id be doing my best to promote it, similar to when im designing.. Professionals dont tend to be the best critics, if you havnt noticed. Theyll nit pick through anything, film, tv, art, game, and point out all the bad points, tending to completely miss the good. Reviews from real people tend to be the most reliable, as they are real people. They think about things the same as most and so know what people like.

Film critics wh only critique are failed film-makers - the top ones anyway - I just was given the opportunity to do both. I am a fan of films before I am a film-maker and critic, so I give real opinions. I don't give films hard times unless they truly deserve it, which is why I support independent films and pick out the good of generally bad films. Inglourious *******s didn't need my help promoting it, it's dominated the box office. I worked on it, got paid, got my premiere invite and I'm done. It's business. If the film sucked I would have said so, but it happened to be phenomenal. Naturally I'm going to be biased about the films I'm producing in order to support them because I have a major role, whereas on IB, I was just a PA.

[Neil]

The problem is with all the movement trying to make it split screen while live would be an exceptionally hard task, the videos on youtube prove nothing, I can make 2 videos and split screen them in sony vegas or FCP without hassle but doing it to such a shaky live feed I can't imagine being such a "cake walk".

Obviously he didn't predict the balls, it's impossible but I can't see split-screen being the way he did it as it's not the sort of thing you'd expect "two camera men and Derren" to do while live on their own with all the shaking.

Who know.

[Xoim]

What the hell is wrong with your brain? Have you never used a camera before?! Those camera weigh quite a lot and even a small hand-held camera is hard to keep steady without some form of tripod.

Edit - Lol bad repped, shame whoever it was didn't leave a name. :)

Ill +rep you bud I think your point is valid.

[Recursion]

It was a waste of time. LOL

@Neil you can get shoulder mount tripods that keep the camera amazingly steady.

[Coheed&Cambria]

I don't know if anyone else had this happen to them, but for some reason I just burst out laughing partway through the video :S

Might try it again when it becomes available on demand.

Yeah i was laughing for some reason :S

[Immenseman]

i was laughing also, the first time around anyway.

[Neil]

I laughed but only cause my brother was in the room doing it aswell and it looked stupid XD

[Immenseman]

lmao i felt really stupid doing it :P glad nobody walked in when i was rly concentrating xD

[-Heart]

First time I couldn't feel my hands or my legs, and couldn't stand up for a while.

Second time I just started laughing randomly half way through. Pritty freaky :lol:. Trying it again now for the 3rd time on Channel 4.

[AlexOC]

Just recorded it, and just watched it then.

Didn't get stuck, but had to do it a few times, i had to keep stopping it as i kept twitching very violently during it.

Then, like mentioned, i was laughing and shaking for no reasons.

It was quite horrible.

[Immenseman]

yeah my muscles twitch and tense, he says you have to just allow it :l

[AlexOC]

Lol, i couldnt allow myself to do it, it was scaring me, i had no control over it, i had to get up and go into the kitchen.

[Immenseman]

lmaooooo wimp :P x

[AlexOC]

Hahaha, but the like 3rd time i did it, i just laughed for no reason which is strange

[Immenseman]

yeah, i think lots of people randomly laugh as you actually come to grips with what you're doing lol \o/

[-Heart]

About to try it for the 3rd time.

[Immenseman]

just give up haz

[AlexOC]

Yeh give up, it probs wont work haha.

Tomorrow i'm going to watch it, really close to the screen, in a dark room and really concentrate.

Who knows...

[-Heart]

just give up haz


First time I couldn't feel my hands or my legs, and couldn't stand up for a while.

Second time I just started laughing randomly half way through. Pritty freaky :lol:. Trying it again now for the 3rd time on Channel 4.
:P.

Third time, felt really heavy but JUST managed to stand up, and had a weird twitch in my neck.

[Immenseman]

getting there.

[Stefy09]

The only thing that I found freaky was when I was relaxed gazing into the thing he played, out of the corner of my eye everything looked black and white and boldddd, twas weird

[AlexOC]

Yeh, everything else dissapeared, like the walls went away, all i saw was this swirl.

[Black_Apalachi]

I thought I could feel my legs weakening but I guess that was probably my imagination. I did happily try to allow it to happen but no it didn't work.

Our TV is about 30" and the sofa is about 4 feet away. However it's to the side of it at about a 50 or 60 degree angle although I sat like he said. I also saw all the split-second images that flashed etc etc and I was (and still am) pretty tired yet it still didn't work.

So far this Derren Brown series has been utter ********. I wish I'd just watched Jools Holland now.

[-Heart]

Can't wait for Next Friday now :).

[Black_Apalachi]

Can't wait for Next Friday now :).

Why? What's it supposed to be next week anyway?

[-Heart]

Why? What's it supposed to be next week anyway?
Derren Brown - How To Be A Physic Spy or something like that.

Then the week after that it's Derren Brown - How To Take Down A Casino.

[Black_Apalachi]

Derren Brown - How To Be A Physic Spy or something like that.

Then the week after that it's Derren Brown - How To Take Down A Casino.

Well I'm not hoping for anything even slightly impressive. I will actually never watch a Derren Brown show again if the Casino one consists of him thinking he is teaching me how to count cards :rolleyes:.

[ashyboy999]

aww i missed this ill have to watch it on 4od and see for my myself.

i am a believer in all things paranormal such as psychics, mediums, ghosts etc to me thats being open minded to all possibilities in life and death wether scientific proven or not i reakon science can only take you so far... would be interesting to see what happens to me.

the government does do it by the way. there are people in this country that thinks attacking foreign countries for political gains is right. parents that think there sons are actually fighting for a cause other than free fossil fuels. people actually believe were going to come out of afghanistan with a victory?? talk about gullable and brainwashed by labour propaganda

[Misawa]

You're more gullible believing in mediums, I'm sorry to tell you. They're all fakes and frauds.

[Ed.]

That was the biggest epic fail ever. I went on facebook straight after and everyone was like "Derren Brown failed"

[alexxxxx]

worked for me, i actually was stuck. i tried to get up but i felt like i was being pushed down.

[MrPinkPanther]

The thing is it didn't fail though? A small number of people were stuck.

[alexxxxx]

yeah, i watched it on Channel 4 HD, in a dark room, looking pretty much face on. only about 1.5m from the screen.

[Immenseman]

he should have made it clearer for people to do that. only after he had done it and the back of the audience were fine he said "it works better the closer you are" :/

[efq]

Lol if you got stuck is because you wanted to, he didn't make you. He made you believe so much that he could that you told yourself so much and you made yourself stick to your chair.

It's all the mind and him telling you over and over put you in belief that he could actually stick you to your chair, whereas you aren't really because you've told yourself to believe that you are.

[kk.]

Lol if you got stuck is because you wanted to, he didn't make you. He made you believe so much that he could that you told yourself so much and you made yourself stick to your chair.

It's all the mind and him telling you over and over put you in belief that he could actually stick you to your chair, whereas you aren't really because you've told yourself to believe that you are.

omg, please, we already know what you think about it. you dont believe what hes doing. youve posted this before so stop trying to cause arguments. Just leave the thread if youre going to be a *****

[dogboy123]

Lol if you got stuck is because you wanted to, he didn't make you. He made you believe so much that he could that you told yourself so much and you made yourself stick to your chair.

It's all the mind and him telling you over and over put you in belief that he could actually stick you to your chair, whereas you aren't really because you've told yourself to believe that you are.

Most of it is about the mind, there's no denying it he even made it clear that its to do witht he mind, you cant physical be stuck to your seat?

[Hitman]

********, I missed it. Should be on the catch up TV thing... I'll try tomorrow.

[crazed]

there were two subliminal image flashes - one of a man in a recliner at the start of the clip and one at the end - which was the man in the wheelchair.

i felt quite heavy but could stand up, i just think the position you're sitting in and the fact you're made to completely relax made you feel weak

I watched it on +1 and it no longer seemed like a wheelchair, more like a man who was tied to the chair, around the ribs and legs.

[cocaine]

yeahh my mistake :P was convinced he was in a wheelchair - ie, being unable to get out of the chair. but being tied to a chair works too :P

[LoveToStack]

The thing is it didn't fail though? A small number of people were stuck.

I don't know anyone who was stuck. The people on TV who were allegedly stuck could easily have been actors. He says actors and stooges aren't used but also in interviews he has said he's not opposed to lie to reach a given outcome. Also just by having some people in the studio be unaffected he's able to convince everyone else watching that they were just too strong-willed to be affected.
I personally hope there's a bigger picture because all of these have been a bit of a let down.

[Neversoft]

Guys I'm still stuck someone please call an ambulance for me.

[Immenseman]

emergency services on their way.

[The Professor]

Has anyone suggested that it might have just not worked over the airwaves as well as he thought it would? If he had such a success rate in the studio (providing he didn't use actors as he claims) where they have an advanced sound system and a jockoff screen, maybe he didn't try it with a normal TV with built in speakers and stuff.

Idk I like to defend him because he's such a good showman and that makes up for some of his simpler tricks and non-events but its getting much harder these days :P

[tdi]

wow, i hate it when people were like, 'derren brown faked the lottery scam, i hate him.. but i'll watch the next one to voice my opinions against said trick just to get myself noticed'
it's the same with many tv programmes, how people watch say, top gear for example, just to complain about petty things.

personally, with derren brown, whether his performances are fake or not, i think they're executed well and provide somewhat good entertainment value and i will continue to watch his programmes. if you don't like his stuff, don't watch it?

anyway, I got stuck, but only for a couple of seconds and then I was able to get up.. still felt quite heavy but it was quite wierd. I watched it with 2 other people, one of which it didn't work on and another who was stuck for a good 3 minutes. I wish I got stuck longer but it's sky+'d so I'll watch it again and see what happens.

[Famish]

It didn't affect me or any of my family for that matter, a large handful of friends were affected though.