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Fez
03-10-2009, 08:43 PM
TL;DR ALERT LOL

My friends are bragging about how they are picking up the MW2 gear to 'play like pros'. My cousin is ignoring the rest of the holiday releases to pick up a MW2 360 (already has a 360 :S) and I myself have decided to pick up the Veteran edition of MW2.

Activision are pushing it down everyone's throats, "MW2." "MW2." "MW2.", every blog or site or anything you visit will have mention of this. It's all one big giant advertisement - "Buy our products", "Join in the gaming event of the year.", "Purchase MW2 gear now!", it's all getting out of hand.

So let's go through how much STUFF there is out there, branded and labelled with MW2 until the product loses its purpose. Simply functioning as an item with ''MW2'' scribbled on it. That's what Night Vision Goggles are, they're not a collectable statue or a DVD giving you true insight into Infinity Ward or even a little nice trinket. They're expensive but cheaply made, tacky night vision goggles with a MW2 sticker on them.

Anyway, here are the best prices I could find.

- MW2 Regular Edition (£44.99)
- MW2 Hardened Edition (£59.99)
- MW2 Veteran Edition (£99.99)
- MW2 Prestige Edition (£119.99)
- MW2 Branded Throat Communicator (£19.99)
- MW2 Branded Faceplate and Console Skin (£24.99)
- MW2 Branded Sniper Mouse (£34.99)
- MW2 Branded Keyboard £???
- MW2 Branded Bluetooth Headset for PS3 (£24.99)
- MW2 Strategy Guide (£12.99)
- MW2 Collectors Edition Strategy Guide (£16.99)
- MW2 Branded Wired Controller 360 (£34.99)
- MW2 Branded Wireless Controller PS3 (£34.99)
- MW2 Branded Controller Skins £???
- Modern Warfare 2 Super Elite 360 Console (£249.99)

Regular Edition, Hardened Edition, Veteran Edition, Prestige Edition. Never before has any other game had so many 'editions', even Halo 3 had a magic number of 3. It seems to me that they're trying to offer a nice 'Collectors Edition' but you're just really spending another £20-£60 on stuff you don't need or want to display.

What comes with Hardened? An Art book, steelbook and COD1. Wow an art book. Really generic with Collector's Editions nowadays, unless it offers real insight into MW2 then I suggest just not signing up for this edition. COD1 is a real nice touch but you can just probably download it off the XBL marketplace or PSN store for cheaper.

It's £60 too (best price I could find), and it doesn't really offer much for your money. Just for comparison, the Far Cry 2 Collectors Edition had a FC2 T-shirt, actually collectable map, an art book, making of DVD and a giant sized wooden box to keep it all in. How much was that? £50, now that's value for money. Not cheap tacky items bolted on with the MW2 'brand'.

http://www.mw2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/soap-statue-2.jpg

Veteran Edition, comes with all of the above and , I'll admit, a very nice looking Soap MacTavish statue. Time will tell whether or not this edition is worth the money, but I'll go ahead and say it now. It's better than Prestige Edition... I mean honestly what is the point?

Prestige Edition. Includes all of the above sans the statue. It's one of the worst 'Collector's Editions' I've ever seen and I'm a ten year vet (military reference, hahahaha). You could look and try to find one, but this offers nothing. What do you get? Night Vision Goggles for a full £120. They're just cheap, plastic ones. You've seen the photos right? They're made in China, by cheap labour, Activision isn't exactly the one to push the whole nice image label but come on. They're acting like Nike here.

You'd expect it to be an actual collectable item. True it will be rare, but is it really collectable... honestly? It comes with some sort of mould, grey blobby replica of Soap MacTavish's head. It looks awful, I would not even want Night Vision Goggles in my home, let alone some sort of plastic face of an old man. Argue with me all you want, but you can feel that little bit of doubt in your mind. It'll be okay won't it, right? It's costing you a lot of money, it'll be worth it right? Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/07/504x_mw2-night-vision-prestige-rm-eng.jpg

MadCatz Gear. Here we go. 'Throat Communicators', modelled after stuff they use in actual wars. Pretty clever premise, a premise that spills into their whole line-up of gear. The actual communicator looks like torture to me, it's dangerously close to your neck's blood veins (I looked in a mirror and compared) and I wouldn't want those things poking into my neck anyway. Still, time will once again tell if this is a good headset or not... but in the words of Paul - "I LIKE TURTLES... BEACHES."

Speaking of modelled after military equipment, does anyone find it suspicious that Activision is just about selling war. They're not selling the actual equipment but they're still pushing the image through your mind that you're an actual soldier. Maybe a clever marketing tool by the military? I don't know. This whole paragraph was useless lol.

Faceplate and Console skin are really overpriced, I can get a MW2 faceplate on eBay for just £9.99. Who's going to actually want to have MW2 on their 360 for the rest of their gaming years? They're removable of course, but I still don't get the point of all this customisation. I want something unique and splendid on the face of my 360, not a marketing tool or a brand image.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8382/mousepcm.jpg

I haven't found the PC MW2 keyboard in the UK so I don't think it's available here. But I have to say, what is the goddamn point of the mouse? I don't do PC games much, and when I do, it's largely just Civ or Sims. I talked to a few of my online friends, who use their computer to play FPSs. Most of them are vets of an age old community clan of COD4 and they've took one look at the MW2 PC lineup and thought it was useless. The Sniper mouse for a start would actually worsen your aim, according to them anyway, and the keyboard is just a MadCatz PC keyboard with MW2 branded on top.

Strategy Guides. Okay, I guess there are still some noobs out there who don't know how to just hammer and burst LT and RT/L1 and R1/INSERT PC CONTROLS HERE. I can't disagree with Activision putting these out, but what I can disagree with is a Collectors Edition of it. For an extra £4 you'll probably get some flashy cover or a CD or a video thing. Ugh... next thing you'll know, we'll get collectors editions of NHS leaflets.

Controllers. This is where things start to get a bit "What the heck.". These are really just PS3 or 360 controllers spray painted with the MW2 image. The PS3 one has a lithium battery used in the official pad but does not come with rumble. Whereas the 360 does. Pretty bad in my opinion, as it was what made a difference between COD:WAW and COD4 for me PS3wise. I can tell whether I'm getting shot immediately in WaW because my controller vibrates, but in COD4 I have to wait for the red hue to show up to know I'm taking damage.

http://thepurpleview.wordpress.com/files/2009/10/mw2-controller.jpg?w=150

Also, you can apparently map some of the buttons onto some back little buttons. Just below the battery cases. I think you can map circle, R3 and L3. To each of the 2 buttons. Really, these buttons look hard to reach and it would take a pretty fast index finger to press these. Would probably hurt after a while too.

The whole of the controller line-up is to give the false impression that if you buy these, then you'll play like a pro. You'll get a good score and you'll be happy as can be. But in the end you're just going to play the same way, or a tinesy tiney little bit better or even a lot worse. Probably with some pain too. It's false advertising, and you're going to be paying for it.

Controller Skins. Short paragraph, short sentences. I can sum these up in one word. Tacky.

http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/4/3/5/343544ps_500h.jpg

Okay, I will have to admit this is actually kind of a good deal. You get a 250GB HDD, a 360 console, 2 wireless controllers and a copy of MW2. But here is where the problem lies, newcomers who want a good deal will buy this console. They'll get a fun game and love the thing right up until MW3 comes out. Then they'll have to buy new skins and faceplates to camouflage the whole MW2 branding. Minor annoyance, but I can't really complain. But I don't see the whole benefit of having a spray painted Xbox in place of a regular, in my opinion, better looking one

I could go on and on about all the gear, how Activision is raping your wallet, how that the game industry will change over night. Okay let's actually push those points. How much will all of the above cost you? Well if you get the whole of the PS3 equipment (Prestige + all the knick knacks) then it'll cost you in the area of £500 alone. With the 360 equipment (Prestige + console + all the knick knacks) then it'll cost you over £800. That's a whole lot of dosh.

'Game industry will change overnight', you're confused aren't you? Well let's just say that there's a certain something that might just happen. Games will no longer become standalone titles, they will become events. All the big releases will just engulf the rest of the titles around them, not from sheer awesomeness but from accessories and marketing.

Everyone knows about MW2 right? So this was the right time to suck all the money out of the customer as much as possible, and leave a future example for publishers. This is when things go sour. Not just MW2 costing more in the UK, games costing more every. Periphrals, accessories, tacky collector's editions just devouring the market. Leaving publishers to question whether to pick up an innovative indie title or a big mass market cow cash like call of duty.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/399090118_0b3215ac8c1.jpg

Yeah, be scared.

Another thing, MW2 itself. I can rant on about multiplayer, but you can hear from anyone else that there's a lot of things wrong with it. But what I'm going to push forward here is Soap MacTavish. Yeah, the scottish guy, the guy you played in COD4. Cool thing to do right? RIGHT. RIGHHTTT?

Well.

You see his face GODDAMN EVERWHERE. On console skins, on controllers, the 360, the Prestige Edition, the statue. His face and the names Afghan soldier thing on the regular boxart. It's baffles me to already be tired of a character, before the actual game comes out. By this time, I've worked out every aspect of what he is and I've seen his face way too many times.

Remember Captain Price, that moustache you attached yourself to in MW1? You know, the good guy and that powerful moment at the end when he died. Remember the plastic bust of him that you could display night vision goggles on... no? Remember his face sprawled on every promotional material... no?

I can rant on MW2 forever, until the actual initials of MW2 mean something else entirely. I could go into detail about how much it'll blow, how big it's hype, what it really means to gaming and the Call of Duty series. Because gone are the days of brave WWII men, gone are the innovative titles that Infinity Ward single-handedly kept the WWII genre alive. Now we're just stuck in a big fat mess.

TL;DR - mw2 is bad.

Jordy
03-10-2009, 11:24 PM
It's ridiculous to be honest and has got completely out of hand. The extra £5 was extremely cheeky, cause they know everyone will buy it anyway (me included :P), that kind of angers me as everyone will follow suit seeing as Modern Warfare 2 will sell so well.

We've still got over-priced DLC to come, 800 MS Points for probably 4 maps or something silly? Maybe they'll bump it up to 1200 MS Points seeing as people will buy it anyway.

They've also commissioned a comic book series to be made of Modern Warfare 2 and there's also now a dedicated-energy drink for Modern Warfare 2 coming out, being made by "Monster".

Where will it stop?

graffiti
03-10-2009, 11:36 PM
You forgot /rant at the end :P anyway nice read.. and I agree with most of you're comments.

ItsDave
03-10-2009, 11:58 PM
All I need to play like a pro is a normal controller YOU NOOBS, GET SOME SKILL WITHOUT PURCHASING OVER-PRICED CONTROLLERS GOD DAMN!

If I play anyone online who has a modded controller I guarentee you I could beat them.

It's all a bit sad if you ask me, buying specially made controllers for one game, its pretty ridiculous, along with that whole, 'Soap' statue. Why on earth would you want that? "17'5 R3411Y R4R3 0K? N0B0DY 3L53 W1LL HAVE I7". There's a good reason for that you idiotic fool, no body else will want it, because it serves no bloody purpose!

Edit:
Sorry. :/ But how much can they bloody well milk the MW2 franchise before it's even been released? It sickens me the greedy jerks.

kk.
04-10-2009, 12:04 AM
You call them greedy but tbqh, if you were in there shoes and could charge what you want, are you saying you wouldn't?

It is all a bit over the tip though. Argos have MW2 at 42 I think now

ItsDave
04-10-2009, 12:09 AM
I mean, I would be trying to make some money, t-shirts, a collectors book or a DVD on how we make the game, but not energy drinks, statues, a WHOLE bunch of controllers and accessories just for your game.

I understand a game's need to push profits outside of the game with extras but they're pushing the boundries and I just think they're being greedy now, it's only a matter of time before they have their own TV channel like Ocean Finance on Sky the greedy fools.

Lost_Addict
04-10-2009, 12:20 AM
lol my work bought me prestige edition for me... i'm not going to complain

Jord
04-10-2009, 12:51 AM
They are really dwelling on the games success over the years, I am going to take a wild guess there will be no more CoD's after Mw2

There getting all the money they can out of this, Might make a new game other than CoD

Fez
04-10-2009, 10:40 AM
Treyarch have already begun work on CoD7, although Infinity Ward is taking a break from the franchise.

Activision won't drop this bomb unless it stops making them money.

dbgtz
04-10-2009, 11:42 AM
So no cod in 2011 (by infinity ward)? Source?

Tbh the next cod will just be oh look, heres another one. Buy the game from asda at £25. lol.

Fez
04-10-2009, 01:43 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6209640.html - COD7 in the works

and

http://www.videogamer.com/news/infinity_ward_modern_warfare_3_not_in_development. html - COD 8 not in development.

ItsDave
04-10-2009, 02:04 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6209640.html - COD7 in the works

I read like a few months after WaW's release after the announcement of MW2 that Trearch were working on a new one, apparently again set in WW2. Dunno of any new details though but I've known this for a bit.

Fez
04-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Actually, Activision is trying to find Cold War and Vietnam era music. They're also trying to licence Vietnam weapons too.

Would definitely spice up the series.

Rumoured too that COD7 will be called Call of Duty: World at War II , as Activision registered the name a while ago.

dbgtz
04-10-2009, 02:14 PM
jesus world at war II, how original.

Fez
04-10-2009, 02:41 PM
jesus world at war II, how original.
Modern Warfare 2, how original!

ItsDave
04-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Actually, Activision is trying to find Cold War and Vietnam era music. They're also trying to licence Vietnam weapons too.

Would definitely spice up the series.

Rumoured too that COD7 will be called Call of Duty: World at War II , as Activision registered the name a while ago.

The Cold War would be a good one. I do think they should ditch WW2.

kk.
04-10-2009, 04:07 PM
jesus world at war II, how original.

I Lol'd

PaulMacC
04-10-2009, 05:54 PM
I'm not buying anything bar the game. The only thing I need is my headset, controller and the game. You mind if I use some of the information provided there for a future video of mine (I'll source you)

Fez
04-10-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm not buying anything bar the game. The only thing I need is my headset, controller and the game. You mind if I use some of the information provided there for a future video of mine (I'll source you)
Sure dawg.

Ontario
04-10-2009, 07:19 PM
I just heard that some guys form Xbox World 360 got to look at the NVGs and they are cheap crappy ones that don't even use natural light but they pick up infrared beams (basically you will be able to see the beam come from your Tv remote to you Tv) So don't expect to be wondering round you house in the dark.

Jordy
05-10-2009, 03:32 PM
The Cold War would be a good one. I do think they should ditch WW2.The Cold War wasn't a war though, it was just a war of words and threats.

Call of Duty 4 is very much to do with the Cold War, the conflict in Chernobyl particularly, and the rest of it is to do with the aftermath of the break-up of the Soviet Union.

I think the Vietnam war would be interesting, it's been the only "real" war after WWII and sadly games have pretty much avoided it.

dbgtz
05-10-2009, 05:24 PM
Vietnam is in the cold war era though isnt it?
Only vietnam i know is conflict vietnam.

ItsDave
05-10-2009, 05:35 PM
The Cold War wasn't a war though, it was just a war of words and threats.

God damn, I learned that in History >.<, how could I forget? "It's called the cold war because it never get started, hence it going cold"

Thanks for reminding me Jordy :eusa_wall

I think they should just move away from the whole pre-1950's era and just make Call Of Duty: Hippie Beatdown or something. Now that, that would be awesome.

dbgtz
05-10-2009, 05:45 PM
Tbh they could get out of war quite easy because the call of duty could be anything. I could say going for a poop is the call of duty. I wouldnt mind a future one as long as its not too future, like WW and ray gun in nazi zombies. But no.

Fez
05-10-2009, 06:34 PM
The Cold War wasn't a war though, it was just a war of words and threats.

Call of Duty 4 is very much to do with the Cold War, the conflict in Chernobyl particularly, and the rest of it is to do with the aftermath of the break-up of the Soviet Union.

I think the Vietnam war would be interesting, it's been the only "real" war after WWII and sadly games have pretty much avoided it.

Correct me for saying this, but didn't the Cold War have a little bit of military skirmishes and stand offs? The Cuban Missile Crisis for one, I'm pretty sure the US bombed the Russian boats carrying the nukes. There was also a Korean war in which US and Russian soldiers fought against one and the other.

Oh yeah and the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan.

It'd be interesting to see those little parts of history that everybody ignores, and see how these events really do relate to the world of today.

Jordy
05-10-2009, 08:03 PM
Correct me for saying this, but didn't the Cold War have a little bit of military skirmishes and stand offs? The Cuban Missile Crisis for one, I'm pretty sure the US bombed the Russian boats carrying the nukes. There was also a Korean war in which US and Russian soldiers fought against one and the other.

Oh yeah and the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan.

It'd be interesting to see those little parts of history that everybody ignores, and see how these events really do relate to the world of today.Yeah the Cold War was mostly just an arms race and included the space race. There were a few stand-offs and "Proxy Wars". The biggest "stand-off" as such was the Cuban Missile Crisis (Closest we've been to nuclear war), the Cubans/Soviets shot down a US Spy Plane but that's it in terms of conflict.

Proxy Wars were wars where either the Soviets or Americans fought indirectly by providing money, resources or military personnel. However the Americans and Soviets never engaged each other as such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars#Cold_War

I didn't know about it being called the Cold War because it went Cold lol, certainly makes sense.

Fez
05-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Ah gotcha, would make an interesting bit of play-doh (so to speak) for the COD franchise to mould into something. If Treyarch is using Cold War era music, maybe that means that they're making an alternative timeline of the Cold War or something. Maybe 're-creating' the soviet invasion of the US or vice versa.

Would make an interesting change for the franchise, although, my money is on Vietnam. COD series could do so much justice to it.

Chippiewill
05-10-2009, 09:44 PM
I could imagine it now:

Call of Duty: The Cold War

Soap McBaby Tavish is in an under ground nuclear bunker, he is on high alert to defuse a nuke. He spends his entire time on high alert, he is sent off to get a coffee, then the game ends because nothing else happened in the cold war. All the goodies to go with the game ammounted to £10k or something and the game takes 50 hours to complete, 49 hours and 50 minutes is just cut scenes.

ItsDave
05-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Hmm, I could imagine my one tbh.

Call of Duty: Hippie Era

Hippies are everywhere, smoking mass amounts of marijuana, having orgies in fields and walking around nude. "What we need you to do Lance 'Masculiman' Steven's is infiltrate the rock concert of Woodstock '69, pass through the mass crowds of Hippies undetected, find the main power supply and exit. Later once your flare has been dropped, an airstrike will be designated on the flares location killing thousands of horrible hippies. Good luck". IGN Rates it 9/10 - "By far the most compelling, colourful and interesting CoD yet! Game rates it 10/10 "When you enter the crowd in disguise and the marijuana effects have your display blur, and your health bar goes down because you have the munchies is just brilliant attention to detail". This fall, prepare, to fight, the HIPPIES!

Now that I could imagine.

Lost_Addict
05-10-2009, 10:16 PM
somehow this is far far out of topic.

Call of Duty: The Hundred Year War

The world has been scorned by war, countries fighting over power and land. you take on lowley Ye old Mctavish as he battles his way up the ***** with just a horse a sword and a spear. where will this epic tale of the unfortold take you.

hehe if we go way bk.

Ontario
06-10-2009, 06:40 AM
Hmm, I could imagine my one tbh.

Call of Duty: Hippie Era

Hippies are everywhere, smoking mass amounts of marijuana, having orgies in fields and walking around nude. "What we need you to do Lance 'Masculiman' Steven's is infiltrate the rock concert of Woodstock '69, pass through the mass crowds of Hippies undetected, find the main power supply and exit. Later once your flare has been dropped, an airstrike will be designated on the flares location killing thousands of horrible hippies. Good luck". IGN Rates it 9/10 - "By far the most compelling, colourful and interesting CoD yet! Game rates it 10/10 "When you enter the crowd in disguise and the marijuana effects have your display blur, and your health bar goes down because you have the munchies is just brilliant attention to detail". This fall, prepare, to fight, the HIPPIES!

Now that I could imagine.

My setup online would be:

Main: Elastic band with flower.
Sidearm: Flower power
Perk: 3x Spliffs
Perk: Free love scanner
Perk: Deep breath to relax the mind.

discolored
12-10-2009, 06:17 PM
There was actually talk of them ditching the "Call of Duty" name. and the prestige is selling quite well, our store is actually sold out of them

dbgtz
12-10-2009, 07:00 PM
My COD would be like.

Call of duty: Fistcracker

You travel through time fighting in loads of wars, some fictional some not. And you get laid alot. Fun.


Oh also you xboxers will be able to get stuff for your wii avatar things.

PaulMacC
12-10-2009, 11:13 PM
My COD would be like.

Call of duty: Fistcracker

You travel through time fighting in loads of wars, some fictional some not. And you get laid alot. Fun.


Oh also you xboxers will be able to get stuff for your wii avatar things.
Anyone who wastes money on avatars is an idiot.

Oleh
13-10-2009, 03:51 PM
Call of Duty: Cockpuncher

its in the name

Ontario
15-10-2009, 07:52 PM
Call of Duty: Cockpuncher

its in the name
Would Call of Duty "The battle of Bangcok" not be better?

jordang16
17-10-2009, 02:21 PM
Should do one based on the iraq war where u have 2 find bin lardern and that it would be interesting

Oleh
17-10-2009, 04:52 PM
why not bin laden? and some animated reinactment of the hanging of suddam?

PaulMacC
17-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Maybe one set way back in the 1800's.
WW1 maybe, but then that would be all trench guns

Fez
17-10-2009, 06:12 PM
Maybe one set way back in the 1800's.
WW1 maybe, but then that would be all trench guns
Trench warfare would be horrible boring.

Vietnam PU-LEASE.

dbgtz
17-10-2009, 08:09 PM
id love a wwii where ur an assassin to kill hitler and have to sneak about and you end by being killed by a bomb.

ItsDave
17-10-2009, 09:22 PM
id love a wwii where ur an assassin to kill hitler and have to sneak about and you end by being killed by a bomb.

I think that would run into what the Assassins Creed Producer said, dunno about the whole Hitler thing though.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=14523

Black_Apalachi
18-10-2009, 12:44 AM
The closest I'll be getting to purchasing MW2 gear was my brother pre-ordering the game. I greatly anticipate owning a lot of kiddies with all their super cool gear that "makes them a million times better at the game" :eusa_whis

Misawa
18-10-2009, 01:07 AM
Inglourious *******s had first dibs on killing Hitler.

dbgtz
18-10-2009, 11:07 AM
Ill laugh if mw2 flunks and is awful and some noob bought all the gear :P

iAdam
20-10-2009, 07:32 PM
I agree with everything you've said, all the stuff that is overpriced and no doubt people will still buy it because it's MW2. tbh, I'm expecting MW2 to flop, but because of the WAWvMW debate, I expect no one to admit it.

Stitch
20-10-2009, 09:27 PM
I agree with everything you've said, all the stuff that is overpriced and no doubt people will still buy it because it's MW2. tbh, I'm expecting MW2 to flop, but because of the WAWvMW debate, I expect no one to admit it.
I agree. Even if it's bad people will still be like "OMG the most amazing game I have ever played in my life!".

I don't think MW2 will do well on the PC because of the whole no dedicated servers thing.

Ontario
25-10-2009, 12:53 PM
MW2 looks great but i just hope they don't mes is up by making it too noob friendly.

Alba
02-11-2009, 10:49 AM
The campaign missions are very short this time around, but their extremely more difficult than COD4. That's my only gripe. The airport mission Is so cinematic. I felt sick doing playing It, I'm not usually that disturbed, but wow. I felt like part of It.

Can't wait till I can go online with the game, should be a matter of days. :D

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