The Forum Filter

[Nixt]

Can you please remove "***" from the Forum filter. I don't think anyone uses this word as a derogatory way for gays any more and to be fair half of the members of this Forum are raving homosexuals so if anyone calls another person a *** it's probably just banter.
It's annoying when I try and explain that I am about to smoke a cigarette and yet I cannot use the slang term. It's not a commonly used phrase and I don't think it needs to be in the filter.

Note: I have avoided the filter in this thread so as to get my point across please don't try and tell me I have broken the rules.

[Immenseman]

i don't really care either way. i assure you though it'll be used to insult people if it's unfiltered.

[Nixt]

i don't really care either way. i assure you though it'll be used to insult people if it's unfiltered.

Probably only when it's first unfiltered everyone will love it right up and say it all the time. If it is done quietly and removed by the metaphoric back door (NO PUN INTENDED LOLZ) it won't be overused though and indeed once the novelty of having a new unfiltered word wears off no one will use it. I just don't think it really needs to be there. Perhaps a member of management could look through the filter and just remove any words they now think are unnecessary and not bother posting about it - just letting it kinda happen if ya get me.

[Immenseman]

yeah, i agree with you that it's not the most offensive word. you're right about people will use it lot when it's unfiltered but after a while it'll die down.

[lick]

can we have omfg and wtf and lmfao unfiltered as well

totally pointless in having them filtered

[Immenseman]

yeah, i agree. they can't possibly be used to offend and don't create a negative atmosphere.

[Nixt]

I agree with the above post! Fair enough filtering things like gtfo and stuff but if an abbreviation isn't offensive and it's like why filter it :S:S

[lick]

gtfo aint filtered i dont think lolllllll

[FlyingJesus]

Unfilter bumming and bollocks irl they are fantastic words as is bugger

[Immenseman]

bugger is filtered???

edit; no is da answa.

[Nixt]

gtfo aint filtered i dont think lolllllll

oh............. that's even more ridiculous then!

[FlyingJesus]

Oh it always used to filter me when I was on about some sort of buggery I'm sure, maybe the back passage is deemed more acceptable now

[le harry]

gfy.. oh cool its good.

[StefanWolves]

The whole forum filter needs updating to suite today and not yesterday if you asked me... maybe this another reason why people leave, and dont stay, because we have a pathetic filter that filters '*****' and '***'

[nvrspk4]

Can you please remove "***" from the Forum filter. I don't think anyone uses this word as a derogatory way for gays any more and to be fair half of the members of this Forum are raving homosexuals so if anyone calls another person a *** it's probably just banter.
It's annoying when I try and explain that I am about to smoke a cigarette and yet I cannot use the slang term. It's not a commonly used phrase and I don't think it needs to be in the filter.

Note: I have avoided the filter in this thread so as to get my point across please don't try and tell me I have broken the rules.

Honestly, I think that word is used more as a derogatory term that it is in slang use...I'm for keeping it filtered.


Unfilter bumming and bollocks irl they are fantastic words as is bugger

******* and ******** are really filtered? So they are. We'll probably fix that.

[lick]

what about the ones i said

[StefanWolves]

same here.

[Black_Apalachi]

If all these things are filtered, how are people typing them without things between the letters?!

I'm not surprised nvr sees "***" as a more derogatory term as it's an American phrase. I never hear it said in the UK, not even in a non-serious way which is why those of us from the UK (or anyone not from the US) would probably think it's not a very bad word. I personally laugh whenever I hear Americans saying it on Xbox Live; "juggerfag" gets me every time :D:P.

Anyway won't people start calling people "newfags"? lol :P

[GommeInc]

Dick, masturbate, masturbation and a few others need unfiltering. The 3 letter F word used as a term for cigarettes and homosexuals is a bit dodgy though. No one uses that word :P

[lick]

Someone who is a " repected" member wanna agree with the words I said because I think he just ignore everyone else and only takes suggestions from them :rolleyes:

[Cheryl]

i don't really care either way. i assure you though it'll be used to insult people if it's unfiltered.
yeah it will be, some people are so immature tbh though (no names :eusa_whis)

[RandomManJay]

Maybe just the full version of the word should remain filtered (wont say the word, personally I hate it :)) instead of the actual shortening. Like Garion said, I think most people just use it for the word cigarette instead of that meaning nowadays. If not, then you could just give up smoking or start calling it a ciggy ;).

[Jin]

Maybe a full on review of the filtered words on Habboxforum.com in order?

[Black_Apalachi]

Maybe a full on review of the filtered words on Habboxforum.com in order?

It would please many, but I don't envy the poor soul designated to carry out the task :P.

[lick]

YES YES YES

LMFAO WTF OMFG

NEED UNFILTERING

also

**** and slagging need to be unfiltered

no-one uses them in the way they are filtered for

[StefanWolves]

Maybe a full on review of the filtered words on Habboxforum.com in order?

Please do.

[Black_Apalachi]

YES YES YES

LMFAO WTF OMFG

NEED UNFILTERING

also

**** and slagging need to be unfiltered

no-one uses them in the way they are filtered for

whereas lagging needs to be filtered :eusa_whis

[lick]

behave you

[Immenseman]

I think all words should be unfiltered. Every single word. Then we come together as a community and decide which ones should be filtered. It would only be for like a day. Obviously, we'd all agree on the more extreme swear words. That way we've all chosen them and we're more likely not to avoid the filter... maybe. I just got this idea from when my school scrapped all school rules and then we came together as a school to rewrite them. The thinking behind the idea was that if everyone agreed to them they're more likely to stick to them. Whether it worked or not I don't know because that was a few years ago in my final year of school.

[FlyingJesus]

******* and ******** are really filtered? So they are. We'll probably fix that.

SCREAM hoorah


Someone who is a " repected" member wanna agree with the words I said because I think he just ignore everyone else and only takes suggestions from them :rolleyes:

Are you suggesting Garion isn't "repected[sic]"? Nvr clearly said he doesn't want his suggestion unfiltered


LMFAO WTF OMFG

NEED UNFILTERING

Well no they don't. Shortening the F word doesn't change its meaning and it's obviously one of the "stronger" cuss words


I think all words should be unfiltered. Every single word. Then we come together as a community and decide which ones should be filtered. It would only be for like a day. Obviously, we'd all agree on the more extreme swear words. That way we've all chosen them and we're more likely not to avoid the filter... maybe. I just got this idea from when my school scrapped all school rules and then we came together as a school to rewrite them. The thinking behind the idea was that if everyone agreed to them they're more likely to stick to them. Whether it worked or not I don't know because that was a few years ago in my final year of school.

This can go either way I guess, people will generally be **** for a while because they can and then calm down, but also I think abuse in general would rise. I don't care for filtering much but it's easy enough to have a discussion without swearing really

[Caution]

If I hear ***, I think of cigarette before I think of homosexualzz.
A lot rly should be unfiltered imo.

[Immenseman]

This can go either way I guess, people will generally be **** for a while because they can and then calm down, but also I think abuse in general would rise. I don't care for filtering much but it's easy enough to have a discussion without swearing really
Obviously the more extreme ones could be re-filtered within minutes, some aren't up for discussion. However, quite a lot of words as this thread has highlighted needs to be allowed. It's just an idea, I know it might not work.

[Black_Apalachi]

I smell chaos. It's exciting :P.

[Nixt]

I agree that you should totally review the whole forum filter, it's probably the best way to go about it!

[GommeInc]

Well no they don't. Shortening the F word doesn't change its meaning and it's obviously one of the "stronger" cuss words
Hasn't internet slanged evolved? The F word in LMFAO etc. could be allowed because it could mean "flipping". Loads of forums follow this, and when that age old argument "If the the F in LMAO is fine, how come we can't say the 4 letter F curse word?" Then you just reply "Because the F could mean 'Flipping'" or any other F replacement :/

It's how I've seen places operate at least. GTFO is another example, you can't avoid abbreviations anyway, may as well let them loose because the curse word could also be a normal word as a replacement :P

And a review of the filter would be good. Might free up some space :P

[Immenseman]

lmfao has to be unfiltered!! it's so commonly used. it can't possibly be used to offend people. it doesn't create a negative atmosphere.

[FlyingJesus]

omg your face lmfao

Yeah it can
Think it was just the fact that it has a NAUGHTY word involved rather that put it on the filter rather than being used to attack anyone lol

[kk.]

omg your face lmfao

Yeah it can
Think it was just the fact that it has a NAUGHTY word involved rather that put it on the filter rather than being used to attack anyone lol

yeh, but to me, it sounds pretty much the same as saying, omg your face lmao.

[Jin]

@Immenseman:

The matter of censored words is not really one that is for the community to decide though we are reasonable.


We will review the forum filter over the next week or so as I don't believe we have done this in sometime, however I would like to clarify that certain words whether or not they are used currently or not will remain on the filter.

[Immenseman]

i see what you mean with the obvious swear words. however, i think ones that have been outlined in this thread obviously are up for discussion as they have been discussed, lol. if you don't want a say from community then that's fine.

@ tom... your point? your face lmao your face rofl

[Invent]

Honestly, I think that word is used more as a derogatory term that it is in slang use...I'm for keeping it filtered.

*** is generally a derogatory term used in the USA where as it's not really a popular word here in the UK (or at least in all the parts of England I've been to) to offend someone as it generally means cigarette :P.

[kk.]

f@g, cig, same number of letters, means the same, just keep it filtered

[Arch]

Nvrs point makes sence same with kk.
if ur gonna say f'ag you might aswell say cig it doesnt take much effort
plus if you say "im going out for a ***" and its blocked im pretty sure everyone would figure out what u ment.

and when i read *** the first thing i think of is a homosexual or someone making fun of someone cuz thats what its used in Canada/ US

- this thread is also a few days old did any of the words get un-filtered yet ?

[Black_Apalachi]

In America if someone calls you it, is it considered really offensive? Whenever I hear it, it just sounds the same as being called "a willy" or something laughable.

[The Professor]

Since this is mainly a habbo UK forum I think unfiltering *** is pretty reasonable, I've never heard it used as an insult by anyone unless they're taking the piss out of the americans! And I'm all for the management reviewing what words are/aren't filtered but I think it should be purely the management that do it, a the end of the day hxf has a policy on what it does and doesn't allow and if people have that big an issue with it they should go elsewhere!

[GommeInc]

Since this is mainly a habbo UK forum I think unfiltering *** is pretty reasonable, I've never heard it used as an insult by anyone unless they're taking the piss out of the americans! And I'm all for the management reviewing what words are/aren't filtered but I think it should be purely the management that do it, a the end of the day hxf has a policy on what it does and doesn't allow and if people have that big an issue with it they should go elsewhere!
They need some input from members though, some strange decisions never work like the Council one for example. People were against it, but they decided to push it through, the council never got much say in anything because all ideas were wee'd on then the council died because management saw no reason in it because they thought they were perfect <3

Some input is needed, and there are a good few words that will remain, but some like hump, Dick and so forth are pretty stupid :P

Testing: ****, humps, ****, *****, Richard.

[Arch]

Why would richard be blocked? lmao

[The Professor]

They need some input from members though, some strange decisions never work like the Council one for example. People were against it, but they decided to push it through, the council never got much say in anything because all ideas were wee'd on then the council died because management saw no reason in it because they thought they were perfect <3

Some input is needed, and there are a good few words that will remain, but some like hump, Dick and so forth are pretty stupid :P

Testing: ****, humps, ****, *****, Richard.

Lol you love bringing that up :P My point is habbox has always had a set of values that it's stuck to, things like not naming scammers, not having pictures of yourself in avatars [ok I don't get this one but yknow] and the word filter are core rules that define what sort of atmosphere we want. If they start letting members decide what should and shouldn't be filtered it'll start to erode those principles. At the end of the day the management are only going to unfilter words that don't cross that border anyway, so asking for suggesstions and input is kinda pointless when they're going to be overruled.

My 2 cents is steadily becoming a full dollar :P

[StefanWolves]

This really does annoy me, why are we using US terminology when we are a UK user based community? Why do we need to have USA terminology here?

[Black_Apalachi]

Why would richard be blocked? lmao

It's not, **** is, (begins with D, rhymes with sick.


This really does annoy me, why are we using US terminology when we are a UK user based community? Why do we need to have USA terminology here?

Well the GM is American lol (the long-term GM I mean, obviously).

[StefanWolves]

Doesn't make a difference, just because the 'GM' is the guy who makes all the decisions and says what happens doesn't mean we have to go by American terminology, when in actual fact 99% of this forum is BRITISH.

That is one of the main problems I feel, Americans running the British really doesn't work, (Look at Afghanistan), however, British and Americans working TOGETHER, anything can be achieved (look at WW2), but the 'GM', has got to give or take a bit... I don't see why the word '***' is filtered at all. I know what you are all saying, just type 'cig' instead, but why? *** is not offensive in BRITAIN, where the forum community is mainly located in.

[Immenseman]

well he's nt gna know is he seeing as he's american and all that. it's used as an insult there quite regularly, not as often here. i don't think it really needs to be unfiltered. if it is, cool. if it isn't, cool.

[Blinger1]

They need some input from members though, some strange decisions never work like the Council one for example. People were against it, but they decided to push it through, the council never got much say in anything because all ideas were wee'd on then the council died because management saw no reason in it because they thought they were perfect <3

Some input is needed, and there are a good few words that will remain, but some like hump, Dick and so forth are pretty stupid :P

Testing: ****, humps, ****, *****, Richard.
titties isn't filtered i'm pretty sure.


This really does annoy me, why are we using US terminology when we are a UK user based community? Why do we need to have USA terminology here?
I thought Habbox is an international fansite? so its user base is worldwide :S

[StefanWolves]

99% are UK. Fact.

I think there is more Australian based users on HxF than American. :/

[Blinger1]

99% are UK. Fact.

I think there is more Australian based users on HxF than American. :/
It might be a fact but seeing as it is still an international site we should take that into consideration.

*** is used as a derogative and a slang term in Aus, you call someone a *** and you smoke **** (duh!)

[StefanWolves]

Well we may as well remove 'd'ick', as it is a slang word for penis and is also used as a shortened name for people named Richard.

Same principle.

Yeah but anyway 'f'ag' is not used as a derogatory word in the UK, I only ever hear it on the Xbox from pathetic Americans.

[Immenseman]

lol you can't use it's a shortened version for richard as a genuine reason to remove it from the filter... if it was unfiltered it'd be used to insult and abuse people. you don't need to talk about ya penis

[StefanWolves]

I was just saying, it's the same sort of thing.

(btw I think that d'ick SHOULD be filtered lol, I was just using it as an example.)

[Blinger1]

dick also means fat in german ;)

[Immenseman]

you don't need to say f@g either. cig will do nicely.

[StefanWolves]

yeh but that's not the point. this forum is british based and were using american terminology which is stupid and doesn't make sense.

[Immenseman]

but we're not. the word in question might be used more in america but it's still used in britain as an insult. not all that often but if it was unfiltered it'd be used in a negative way more than its 'normal' usage.

[Blinger1]

its aimed at everyone, hence why its an international fansite!!!

[Immenseman]

it's a habbo forum aimed at habbo.co.UK

[Blinger1]

why is their international news and trading then :S

[Immenseman]

why not

[GommeInc]

Lol you love bringing that up :P My point is habbox has always had a set of values that it's stuck to, things like not naming scammers, not having pictures of yourself in avatars [ok I don't get this one but yknow] and the word filter are core rules that define what sort of atmosphere we want. If they start letting members decide what should and shouldn't be filtered it'll start to erode those principles. At the end of the day the management are only going to unfilter words that don't cross that border anyway, so asking for suggesstions and input is kinda pointless when they're going to be overruled.

My 2 cents is steadily becoming a full dollar :P
Go the full dollar :P

Obviously the members won't have the final word, but they should hear what the members (or a small group of mature members) suggest and some of the words do seem a bit odd to have filtered. Might as well help out with the brain storming :D

It won't erode these principles, especially as naming scammers cannot be completely proven or relevant to the forums in general, and having pictures of yourselves in avatars is a bit odd, though it may just revolve around keeping discussions topical, rather than a thread becoming a discussion about Jake's new pictures :P

Discussing the word filter, however, is fine because you can give suggestions, find alternatives, discuss how the word can be used offensively or in a vulgar way. Besides, these principles came into power in the "bad days" of Habbox, the original days were more open to suggestions which shaped a community around the community. Shaping a community around a small number of management is hardly helpful :P

EDIT: Jake dear, do you honestly think calling some a di.ck would be offensive? It's laughable. And if you don't need to talk about penises and vaginas, then why on earth are penis, shlong, willy, willeh and so forth all unfiltered? It follows the same principle :P If talking about your penis is bad, then why is the word unfiltered? Penis has no other meaning, it could be used offensively "Professor-Alex is a penis", but if it could be, then surely it would be filtered? :P

[Immenseman]

if ya wna talk about ya penis say penis ur all raging homosexuals

[StefanWolves]

i dont see why all words are just unfiltered, and bad words like fewk and whatever are filtered.

[Black_Apalachi]

You can't compare fág and díck. The latter can be very offensive (in the UK or the US) where as we know the former isn't seen as offensive in the UK. If you wanna use the 'we are all in the UK' argument, then you should take it to Jin while you can as he's the standing GM while nvr is away.

[FlyingJesus]

99% are UK. Fact.

Hey look Wolves is making up statistics in a feedback thread again


EDIT: Jake dear, do you honestly think calling some a di.ck would be offensive? It's laughable. And if you don't need to talk about penises and vaginas, then why on earth are penis, shlong, willy, willeh and so forth all unfiltered? It follows the same principle :P If talking about your penis is bad, then why is the word unfiltered? Penis has no other meaning, it could be used offensively "Professor-Alex is a penis", but if it could be, then surely it would be filtered? :P

Myself and friends call each other all sorts of things that others would be horrified by and we don't get offended, should we then suggest that no-one take such terms in a negative way? I'm not one for censorship but removing words from the filter because they aren't always used to offend could apply to any cuss word around. How often do you really need to say dick or ***? I'd say it's quite simple to use one of the many unfiltered synonyms and it would be the same, unless of course you're using them as an insult which isn't meant to be done anyway

[Nixt]

Hey who knows what is going to happen this Sunday...

[Immenseman]

surely not weekly updates, they don't happen more than once a month now, sorry

[xxMATTGxx]

surely not weekly updates, they don't happen more than once a month now, sorry

Well it is a new month so that time is right about now? Anyway, there are things planned to be changed this upcoming Sunday.

[Jxhn]

i thought ***** was unfiltered ages ago because it can mean to ***** your finger as well as you ****** *****

edit: nvm its filtered again

so shouldnt the same happen for *** and dick etc

shouldn't ****face be filtered aswell

[GommeInc]

Myself and friends call each other all sorts of things that others would be horrified by and we don't get offended, should we then suggest that no-one take such terms in a negative way? I'm not one for censorship but removing words from the filter because they aren't always used to offend could apply to any cuss word around. How often do you really need to say dick or ***? I'd say it's quite simple to use one of the many unfiltered synonyms and it would be the same, unless of course you're using them as an insult which isn't meant to be done anyway
Tom Dick and Harry
My boyfriend's a dick
My girlfriend's got a dick

I drove over a hump in the road (strangely, I can still say I enjoy humping you and *humps*, just not the singular).

And surely by keeping these harmless words filtered, and using alternatives is just as bad as using the original? Heck, saying and talking about penis in every context is uncalled for and against the rules, sexual content being the main rule being broken, as penis is only ever used in context rather than:

Tom, Penis and Harry
My boyfriend's a penis
My girlfriend's got a penis.

The D word is hardly offensive, it's probably on par with idiot, shlag, betch, skank, skeg, deck, twit, twazzock, plank.

Besides, moderators are put on board to insure rules are not broken, guess what rules exist and should not be broken? Do not be rude/Do not bully. What happens if people use words offensively? They may get caught out by moderators (if people actually bother using the report post button). I use loads of forums, it's amazing how behind the times the filter is on here, considering the D word is the lesser of half the evils available for use.

And just to make it clear, you say incredibly dirty things. The D and H word are like a kitten playing with a ball of wool in comparison :P I'm not always doing the four letter W 'ing word when in conversations :P

The 5 letter P word was unfiltered indeed, but for some reason the constant reminded we gave the management team of "it will take a few weeks for people to get over the joy of saying it" never sunk in, so they just re-filtered it. The minority of bad users apparently ruin it for the majority with a word that is to stab your finger on a pin :P

Maybe the problem is with the moderation team, to few numbers or something :/

Testing: D = ****, H = ****

[FlyingJesus]

saying and talking about penis in every context is uncalled for and against the rules, sexual content being the main rule being broken

Caught yourself out there if you're campaigning for it to be taken off filter ;)

[GommeInc]

Caught yourself out there if you're campaigning for it to be taken off filter ;)
Hardly, more like showing how daft the current filter is if anything ;) Considering penis is a harmless word and filtering that would be daft as it is used in mature conversations anyway, most of time, to the degree where we aren't being too gory or graphic :P

[Immenseman]

Well it is a new month so that time is right about now? Anyway, there are things planned to be changed this upcoming Sunday.
oh yeah silly me thinking me weekly updates would imply they'd happen once a week

[StefanWolves]

I just thought

Shi't is filtered
Piss isn't filtered

What's the difference? 'shi't (poo) is a form of releasing waste products and so is piss (wee wee). It's just slang. I know 'piss' is moderated highly and is allowed if it is used in the rite context, but couldn't this be the same for 'shi't' and every other swear word? as long as it is used in the rite context and isn't aimed at someone then I don't see why most words should be banned.

I also wonder what the difference is here
You're a shi't head
You're a poo head

Both mean the same thing and are not exactly insulting as it's just laughable.

Same with
You're a piss stain
You're a wee stain

Piss is unfiltered, and is used in the rite context usually, like this
Brb 'I'm going to have a piss' Or 'I was taking the piss'.

Could be the same for 'shi't'
'Brb I am going to have a shi't Or 'I was being a shi't head'.

What's the difference? both have the same principles. If piss can be unfiltered then why not shi't, no'b, etc, as long as they're used in non-derogatory terms (like my computers being a n'ob or my computers being shi't) and that they are moderated properly then I don't see a problem with removing them from the filter list.

Even 'bastar'd' isn't a swear word, it's a real life word in the dictionary, I don't think anyone would use 'bastar'd' as a term to insult someone, even if they did they would probably get laughed at, but if they did use it as a derogatory term then it's the moderators jobs to punish people for it.

[The Professor]

99% are UK. Fact.

I think there is more Australian based users on HxF than American. :/

Can you please show me the exact process and mathematical equations you used to ascertain that fact? Because tbh its really hard to have a discussion with you when you make things up, religiously claim them to be fact and get really defensive when someone picks you up on it. And no, repeating it does not count as showing me how you got it.

[Arch]

He made it up to further a point which really makes no sence, because there are many users from different places in the world with different ethnicitices so if you unfilter 1 world that might be okay in the UK but means something really rude in lets say Australia (or to Australians). I also understand where your comnig from with it but honestly if you cant just write "cig" then dont talk about smoking.

PLUS i dont think anyone rly cares if you smoke or start talking about smoking, if anything they will just say ur trying to be cool or something i dont know i like waffles

[StefanWolves]

I like how you all just ignored my post on the page before. (Rite at the bottom).

And yes, Maybe I exaggerated the percentage a little bit, but it's still a FACT - the vast majority of the people using this forum are British, you cannot deny or argue against that, so stop trying to make an argument out of something which is pure fact.

So get off your high horse.

[FlyingJesus]

It's not being on a high horse, it's not wanting to deal with false "facts" which you keep spewing out. The majority of people here are from the UK yeah but that doesn't mean other people can't be offended by slang terms nor does it mean we should set everything to British standards (if we wanted to do that we could sign away the right to change rules to a different forum) and it's mindless to assume that the majority are always right