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shotter
04-11-2009, 10:28 PM
Need a good guard dog.
I already got a 8month full rottweiler.
I need another dog.
Thinking along the lines of...
German shepard
Pitbull
Staff
Another rotty
Any suggestions please
Doberman. My friend has two, trained appropriately they are amazing companions as well as brilliant guard dogs.
shotter
04-11-2009, 11:46 PM
Doberman. My friend has two, trained appropriately they are amazing companions as well as brilliant guard dogs.
Forgot about them, i went to see some puppies the other day.
Still deciding though, theyre dober x rotti mixes
Black_Apalachi
05-11-2009, 12:33 AM
Doberman. My friend has two, trained appropriately they are amazing companions as well as brilliant guard dogs.
This ^ and German Shepards are the obvious answer. Although judging by the way my dog reacts to the slightest noise of someone walking past our house, I wouldn't wanna be the dude that decides to break into ours :P.
Stephybum
05-11-2009, 03:52 AM
Alaskan Malamutes are very good guard dogs imo & adorable :)
Blinger1
05-11-2009, 04:15 AM
Berner Sennenhund.. Although they aren't exactly guard dogs :p
Alaskan Malamutes are very good guard dogs imo & adorable :)
They are adorable, however it would be foolish to buy one as a guard dog. They were never bred for that purpose and although disciplined and hard working they do not have the right temperament to be a proper guard dog. I don't think we're talking something that will bark at passers by here, he's talking a dog you can train to a high standard to follow your every whim. Alaskan Malamutes are not this dog.
Berner Sennenhund.. Although they aren't exactly guard dogs :p
Pretty much the same applies above - especially seeing as the breed is bred to be docile and placid.
The Doberman is perfect, seriously. They're brilliant dogs. Very easily trained and they were originally bred for guarding the tax man! The only dog in this thread specifically bred for such a person. Even Rottweilers and German Sheperds were originally bred for herding.
Blinger1
05-11-2009, 09:47 AM
I know it's a placid dog, I only suggested it cause it is Swiss ;)!
Misawa
05-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Get a Staffy. Brilliant guard dog, friendly and loyal as hell.
-K8T!E-
11-11-2009, 03:16 PM
Get a german shepard, they're adorable, loyal and excellent guard dogs.
Ardemax
15-11-2009, 03:09 PM
spaniel
they are beasts
Sunny.
20-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Japanese Akita Inu.
I reli wnt 2 get one
For the overall perfect guard dog you need a Doberman. They are similar to rottweiler's but from my experience easier to train, more loyal, scarier appearance, faster and usually stronger. You might disagree with scarier and stronger but a Doby with it's ears put up (forgot the name for it) and on a decent diet + exercise looks much more muscular than rottweilers (rottweilers look fat as opposed to toned). I also love how proud they stand, legs in line, head up and straight back kind of thing. The name of them seems to be more effective than Rottweilers too at scaring people. The way our Dobermans seem to fight other dogs is to pounce onto their back/neck, bite the neck and push it into the ground. It then holds it down to the ground while literally eating it, could say biting though. :P If it was trained to attack people (doesn't always need training as it can usually sense a suspicious person) then god knows what it would do to them.
It's called cropping but it is illegal in the UK I think.
Misawa
21-11-2009, 02:09 AM
Doberman's are loyal and can be aggressive, but my mother's old Staffordshire Bull Terrier got into a fight with one in a park one time when the owner was doing God knows what elsewhere, and the Dobie was just turned into a pile of wet dead flesh. Stupid owner.
Doberman's are loyal and can be aggressive, but my mother's old Staffordshire Bull Terrier got into a fight with one in a park one time when the owner was doing God knows what elsewhere, and the Dobie was just turned into a pile of wet dead flesh. Stupid owner.
was that an exxageration or did the staffie actually kill the doberman?
Gullable
23-11-2009, 12:12 PM
:D:Dlabrador
bull terriers are one of the most fun loving dogs ive owned. have to be one of the cutest puppies goin aswell :)
Doberman's are loyal and can be aggressive, but my mother's old Staffordshire Bull Terrier got into a fight with one in a park one time when the owner was doing God knows what elsewhere, and the Dobie was just turned into a pile of wet dead flesh. Stupid owner.
We're not talking about dog fighting though, we're talking about guard dogs. The Doberman is a far better dog for that purpose. It is why it was bred. Nevertheless, an appropriately trained Staffordshire Bull Terrier would make a fairly good guard dog, but it is my opinion that Dobarmans are far more intimidating.
Misawa
23-11-2009, 11:57 PM
No exaggeration, it slaughtered it. Staffies need no training to be a guard dog all they need is the love to know who to trust. They can sense those with bad intentions. Hell, even one of mine tried to maul the tax man one time.
An appropriately trained and proper guard dog won't try to maul anyone until it is ordered to do so or it is appropriately aware there is immediate danger to it's owner or it's territory. A dog that tries to maul the tax man is not properly trained :p. The key thing about guard dogs is that they are primarily a deterrent and physically defending the home should be a last resort. Dobermans are a lot more foreboding and therefore act as a better deterrent.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 12:48 AM
Quite. It was a joke. Still, they sensed that he was a moron - a dog that mauls a tax man is smart!
Doberman's make up in guarding what they lack in looks. I find them so ugly.
Quite. It was a joke. Still, they sensed that he was a moron - a dog that mauls a tax man is smart!
Doberman's make up in guarding what they lack in looks. I find them so ugly.
Lol that much is true! Really? I think the well bred ones look spectacular. Intimidating but nevertheless attractive. Especially the 'chocolate' variation. My friend has two Dobermans, and the chocolate one is a very good looking dog. I guess it's a matter of opinion though. Because I think the majority of staffs are ugly but there are exceptions when you find them of a good breed quality. The most staffs you see in my area are owned by chavs who buy them because they think it adds to their street cred, though.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 01:00 AM
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images22/StaffordshireBullTerrierBroxiBlueBoysFullGrown.jpg
Beautiful!
Doberman's are cute as puppies, but I really don't find them good looking as adults.
Plain old bull terriers are the ugliest dogs ever, though.
Yes, unfortunately chavs are allowed to have animals.
Alkaz
24-11-2009, 01:23 AM
Yup German Shepard, they are great as pets and AMAZING guard dogs, my friend has 3 and they live outside and they let the owners in etc but anyone else and they are there guarding, but when they are on there own they are soppy old things which love to be with each other :D
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 06:18 AM
Lol that much is true! Really? I think the well bred ones look spectacular. Intimidating but nevertheless attractive. Especially the 'chocolate' variation. My friend has two Dobermans, and the chocolate one is a very good looking dog. I guess it's a matter of opinion though. Because I think the majority of staffs are ugly but there are exceptions when you find them of a good breed quality. The most staffs you see in my area are owned by chavs who buy them because they think it adds to their street cred, though.
Are Dobermans extremely social (obviously all dogs are) but I mean more so than others? Are they the kind of dog that hates being left alone? Just asking because I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a single Doberman by itself, there's always a pair!! :D
Are Dobermans extremely social (obviously all dogs are) but I mean more so than others? Are they the kind of dog that hates being left alone? Just asking because I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a single Doberman by itself, there's always a pair!! :D
They are very sociable. Also very loyal to you but you need to let them know that you are the boss. Having 2 keeps them both occupied but more importantly makes them better guard dogs. They are very good at working together, attacking people/in fights and just in general. We have 2 Dobermans, if one of them is asleep and the other barks at the door, it will wake up and sprint to the other doberman.
Dobermans...
Cute as puppies.
http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/magnum_doberman10.jpg_w450.jpg
http://largedogbreedz.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10062/normal_doberman-tends-puppy.jpg
Scary as adults. :P
http://dobermansden.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rust-doberman-with-black-doberman1.jpg
http://www.best-dog-photos.com/images/Doberman-Pinschers.jpg
Are Dobermans extremely social (obviously all dogs are) but I mean more so than others? Are they the kind of dog that hates being left alone? Just asking because I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a single Doberman by itself, there's always a pair!! :D
Lol you're right I rarely see anyone with just one Doberman. They're really loyal, faithful dogs who crave companionship with their master in particular. Additionally, they're rather energetic so for those reasons I think that's why most people choose to have two. I don't think you'd really need to have two though, provided you were able to give the dog enough affection and exercise etc.
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I could see myself owning one I think :). It's those ears that make them scary btw!!
Ear cropping is illegal in the UK. It's done for purely cosmetic purpose and it's cruel and ting. But trust me, even dobermans with floppy ears can be scary:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs160.snc1/5976_206341610315_590965315_7612837_3516831_n.jpg
That's my friends *****, Sacha.
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 01:45 PM
Oh, are they naturally floppy? I don't even get how cropping works.
Why is that one being aggressive? :(
Yes they are. Cropping involves removing a certain bone from the ear in the first few months (I think) and it then makes the ears stand on end to make them look more aggressive.
Hard to believe, but she's playing :P. I was winding her up so I could get a scary picture lol. She's harmless though, really. A really loving dog. She lovessssssss my puppy lol, she's really maternal.
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Ah OK. Haha cool, my dog sneezes loads when it gets too excited! o.O
IrishHero
24-11-2009, 03:59 PM
i vote collie lol :]
Gullable
24-11-2009, 09:43 PM
Ear cropping is illegal in the UK. It's done for purely cosmetic purpose and it's cruel and ting. But trust me, even dobermans with floppy ears can be scary:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs160.snc1/5976_206341610315_590965315_7612837_3516831_n.jpg
That's my friends *****, Sacha.
what a lovely looking dog:):)
what a lovely looking dog:):)
I don't know if that post is sarcastic or not.
Rixion
25-11-2009, 12:01 AM
Rottweiler, some are verry nice and friendly, but put up a good fight.
No exaggeration, it slaughtered it. Staffies need no training to be a guard dog all they need is the love to know who to trust. They can sense those with bad intentions. Hell, even one of mine tried to maul the tax man one time.
well then, it's clearly a badly trained dog. whether it was you or someone else who was walking the dog, they should have commanded the dog to stop and if it were a well trained dog then it would have.
moreover, if you have such an aggressive dog, wouldn't first instinct be to keep it on a lead to avoid things like this? it's people like you who get their dogs put down due to carelessness and quite frankly disgusting training.. say for example, it was a child and not a dog that yours went for, the dog would be put down, and it wouldn't be the dog's fault, it would be yours.. but the dog would get put down for it.
The Don
01-12-2009, 09:56 AM
Boerboel (South African Mastif)
I got one recently, and it's the best breed in my opinion. although hard to find, if you do have the opportunity(sp?) to get one, then i defenetly would get one.
"The Boerboel is a dominant but intelligent breed, with a strong watchdog instinct. The Boerboel should be self-assured and fearless, but responsive to the needs of the family. For the most part, responsibly bred, well socialized Boerboels are even tempered and aim to please their family. Any person interested in making a Boerboel part of their family should be prepared to spend much of the first year training the animal"
Misawa
01-12-2009, 06:39 PM
well then, it's clearly a badly trained dog. whether it was you or someone else who was walking the dog, they should have commanded the dog to stop and if it were a well trained dog then it would have.
moreover, if you have such an aggressive dog, wouldn't first instinct be to keep it on a lead to avoid things like this? it's people like you who get their dogs put down due to carelessness and quite frankly disgusting training.. say for example, it was a child and not a dog that yours went for, the dog would be put down, and it wouldn't be the dog's fault, it would be yours.. but the dog would get put down for it.
The dog wasn't mine and is long gone, so don't "people like me" me.
If my staffies ever killed a child, I'd know it was the kid's fault.
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