EU plans to ban all shop refunds

[-:Undertaker:-]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/137380/EU-to-ban-all-shop-refunds

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/11/uk-government-is-already-powerless-in-face-of-eu-laws/


EU BUREAUCRATS want to end the right of shoppers to get their money back for shoddy goods. This would end the 100 years of protection British consumers have enjoyed. For more than a century, shops have offered refunds to people who return unwanted or faulty goods. Plans by the European Union to “harmonise” consumer law will short-change them by removing that right and weakening safeguards.

Ministers have vowed to fight the Consumer Rights Directive but the UK Government has no power to stop the change if it is backed by the majority of European Union states. Worse still, if the law is passed retailers will be banned from “gold-plating” the legislation by continuing to offer money- back guarantees. Lola Bello, senior policy advocate for Consumer Focus, said: “Our right to return shoddy goods helps keep industry on its toes.

..coming soon to a 'democratic' country near you!

Thoughts?

[Blinger1]

What the **** is the eu doing? That's just ridiculous.

[Blinger1]

What the **** is the eu doing? That's just ridiculous.

Edit: ****! Double post sorry..

[Smiddy]

It's a brilliant policy.

I also endorse sarcasm.

[Bailey]

Democracy is a cool thing yo'

[GommeInc]

Good luck if this law passes, it's one of the only reasons shopping in the UK isn't as dodgy as in other countries that don't do refunds or monetary exchanges :P

[Wig44.]

What do they think the benefits of this are? Less people getting refunds so more sales? That simply isn't how it works, as said in your quote the refund guarantee is sometimes the gold-plating of the sale and is the tipping point for a potential consumer.. people are more likely to buy something if they have the chance to get their money back if it is dodgy. I'm happy that laws backed by French, Belgians and others that aren't backed by British still role out to Britain. That makes perfect sense.

[Bailey]

What do they think the benefits of this are? Less people getting refunds so more sales? That simply isn't how it works, as said in your quote the refund guarantee is sometimes the gold-plating of the sale and is the tipping point for a potential consumer.. people are more likely to buy something if they have the chance to get their money back if it is dodgy. I'm happy that laws backed by French, Belgians and others that aren't backed by British still role out to Britain. That makes perfect sense.

This is what happens when Politicians are spineless Willbby

[hah]

the websites you're getting them from :P i think you're just trying to post as much EU hate as you can LOl

and i though the Eu where all for consumer rights :S

[Robbie]

and i though the Eu where all for consumer rights :S

the eu are for nothing that is of benefit to us. NOTHING! :P

[Wig44.]

the websites you're getting them from :P i think you're just trying to post as much EU hate as you can LOl

and i though the Eu where all for consumer rights :S

You're definitely not stupid are you? Read http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies

Tell me that isn't better than what we have now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

the websites you're getting them from :P i think you're just trying to post as much EU hate as you can LOl

and i though the Eu where all for consumer rights :S

I can't really post from a pro-EU site simply because a pro-EU site would refuse to show this, the real EU. I've given a political party point of view and a newspaper point of view. I wouldn't call it EU hate, i'd call it the truth. As shown by these very forums, once you peel back all the propaganda that the EU and the government throws out about the EU giving us security, helping business, stopping climate change - you realise its the biggest scam going.

[hah]

You're definitely not stupid are you? Read http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies

Tell me that isn't better than what we have now.

No im not... and i dont give two ***** what you have now as i dont live in UK :)

[Wig44.]

No im not... and i dont give two ***** what you have now as i dont live in UK :)

If you aren't then feel free to **** off since this is about the UK having laws changed and you dont give two ***** about this, Graham. :)

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[alexxxxx]

it's the express. expect some massive distortion from the truth.

[-:Undertaker:-]

it's the express. expect some massive distortion from the truth.

..or should we believe the Labour Party, who promised us a referendum on the European Union reform but then suddenly decided the circumstances had changed and that the British people were too stupid to decide for themselves what was the right choice?

..or maybe we should believe the European Union which vowed never to become a federal state when we joined the European Economic Community all those years ago, but now makes over 84% of our laws unelected.

..or maybe we should believe the Guardian who are so under-bought as a newspaper that they have to rely on subsidies just to keep printing their pro-EU/Labour stories.

A hard choice.

[Alkaz]

Dan seriously I am going to stop using HxF soon. This is annoying me so much. Its ridiculous how they are THINKING this. Its down to a shop if they have supplied a faulty good or what not. Anyway, what happened to using less and all that, if things can be returned and reused then why not. OMG -rage-

[Sammeth.]

Dan seriously I am going to stop using HxF soon. This is annoying me so much. Its ridiculous how they are THINKING this. Its down to a shop if they have supplied a faulty good or what not. Anyway, what happened to using less and all that, if things can be returned and reused then why not. OMG -rage-
Yeah, you show that pesky EU Joe! Stop using HxF, that'll teach em to mess.

[adaym]

Vote UKIP and this won't happen.

[Black_Apalachi]

Dan, all these EU threads, are they just stuff the EU is talking about doing so there's a good chance they won't happen, or are they stuff that is close to actually being put into place? (I'm guessing/hoping the former :P)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Dan, all these EU threads, are they just stuff the EU is talking about doing so there's a good chance they won't happen, or are they stuff that is close to actually being put into place? (I'm guessing/hoping the former :P)

It will most likely pass, Europe has been different, and is different to the United Kingdom and always will be. The only real main objectors I can see objecting are possibly the United Kingdom and Italy. Germany and France are unlikely to object as the European Union is run by them, the Czechs have a pro-EU government in power so their President is in effect powerless, the Poles are in the same position.

Spain will not want to upset the European Union as it recieves billions in aid from the EU every year (hence why they have such lovely coastlines and such immaculate motorways, all funded for by the British taxpayer). On the other states more to the east and the south, they will most likely vote with this measure as they too are also recieving billions in aid (our money) from the European Union, the same with the Irish Republic.

You are forgetting, there are even limits on the size of our fruit and vegtables by the European Union down to the last mill in size, if they are too small/slightly irregular shape then they are chucked, simple as that. British farming suffers and so does farming all acrosss Europe, it isn't free market as they advocate, its command economy.

I am glad people are starting to question the European Union now, and people can see exactly what it is even though mainstream media such as the BBC tends to not report on issues such as these.

[Black_Apalachi]

Never been a fan of the EU myself. Interesting point about the BBC etc.

[Pyroka]

Yeah, you show that pesky EU Joe! Stop using HxF, that'll teach em to mess.

LOL IRL.

The EU are taking the piss now, and if they do remove the consumer rights (of which they are obviously 'protecting'), then the European pisstake that is the EU will fail quite badly. What're they trying to do, make every country as failish as eachother?

[hah]

If you aren't then feel free to **** off since this is about the UK having laws changed and you dont give two ***** about this, Graham. :)

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Hey Wig44, this affects all of Europe and therefore seeing as i live in Europe i have a right to post.

Much Love Graham xx

[Hitman]

Bloody EU! What's the need for this? :@ I like to shop, knowing that most stores will refund me if the item is dodgy. If this goes through, I'll be exceedingly careful where I buy from and if I buy at all... which I'm sure many people will also feel the same, so there'll be less sales.

Maybe our sane shops will still give refunds - actually, as I wrote that I realised you said they're BANNING refunds, so they wont even be able to, even if they wanted...

[LuketheDuke]

I laugh at this persons sources, lets just wait until something really happens before spamming this forum with right wing garbage.

Id rather click a link to watch those twins off x factor than click a link to the BNP's website.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I laugh at this persons sources, lets just wait until something really happens before spamming this forum with right wing garbage.

Id rather click a link to watch those twins off x factor than click a link to the BNP's website.

Interesting that you have nothing else to say or even the ability to defend your European Union, but as they say; the truth always hurts.

[Suspective]

We've lost the right for our own government and laws

[Wig44.]

Hey Wig44, this affects all of Europe and therefore seeing as i live in Europe i have a right to post.

Much Love Graham xx

I had a feeling you'd misinterpret this. You don't care about UK having laws changed and I would say this thread is aimed at the UK having laws imposed on it by the EU.

[hah]

Then you should have made it more clear :)
This thread is about all of Europe having its laws changed, not just the UK

[Fez]

UKIP need to get in power.

Fast.

[Ardemax]

just...... why

[-:Undertaker:-]

just...... why

- Independance, the right of the British people to determine their own laws.
- Power to the people, the right of the British people to have a referendum on all important issues.
- Less power to the state, the right of the British people to be free from state control, end this police state Labour have imposed.
- Freedom of speech, something which Britain used to hold at its heart above all other nations.

The things socialism detests.

[Ardemax]

- Independance, the right of the British people to determine their own laws.
- Power to the people, the right of the British people to have a referendum on all important issues.
- Less power to the state, the right of the British people to be free from state control, end this police state Labour have imposed.
- Freedom of speech, something which Britain used to hold at its heart above all other nations.

The things socialism detests.

im not on about ukip... im on about the actual thread :eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap