30,000 Internet Users to Receive File-Sharing Cash Demands

[Robbie]

As many as 25,000 BT and 5,000 customers of other ISPs will be receiving shock letters demanding big payments during the coming weeks. Lawyers in the UK have been granted more court orders which force ISPs to hand over the details of individuals who they say have been monitored sharing hardcore pornography.

http://torrentfreak.com/30000-internet-users-to-receive-file-sharing-cash-demands-091125/

Thoughts? BBC reports it as 30,000 and music sharing. ACS Law and Davenport Lyons make me lol.

[Tomm]

If I'd have used BitTorrent, which I don't, and got one of these letters I would of just laughed at it and binned it. They are just relying on a percentage of people giving in and paying up - would mean a healthy return on sending out a few letters. Highly doubt they plan even attempting to follow up any letters and if they did they would have a extremely hard time proving anything.

[Robbie]

Same. SSL Usenet ftw

[Hitman]

LOL hardcore porno? Red you tube ftw... ;P Are they using this as an excuse to get details?

As for downloading, I've not downloaded from torrents for a long time.

[Tomm]

Likewise. Assuming your using SSL with your Usenet connection there would be no reason for anyone to even attempt to request your details from a Usenet provider as they can't show that you've been downloading anything that you should be (Because we all use Usenet for those Linux ISO images!)

Also as long as your with a good Usenet provider (e.g Astraweb) that does not log anything you access there will be no proof at all, from your ISP or Usenet provider. The only evidence will be on your computer, which there would be no reason anyone would want to gain access to as there is no proof that you've done anything wrong.


Same. SSL Usenet ftw

[Swinkid]

Whats the problem with downloading hardcore p0rn? anyway - havnt torrented in awile, only for odd programs. I use spotify to listen to music now-a-days, im all clean. :)

[The Professor]

Lol yeah hardcore porn is what the internet was made for, sounds like a badly informed article or just scare tactics like tom was saying

[Swinkid]

Lol yeah hardcore porn is what the internet was made for, sounds like a badly informed article or just scare tactics like tom was saying

What i was thinking, seeing as BBC would have it on there by now. - Luckily, 4chan dosent have 'Hardcore' Porn. ;)

[Smits]

I barely use torrents, and have never downloaded any porn so i wont be expecting a letter. Stupid idea though, if they do follow up the letters, they can expect to pay alot in court fees.

[The Professor]

I barely use torrents, and have never downloaded any porn so i wont be expecting a letter. Stupid idea though, if they do follow up the letters, they can expect to pay alot in court fees.

That has to be the only sentence on the internet that is impossible to believe :P You could tell me aliens abducted my mother and exchanged for a cake and I'd believe you more than if you said that!

[brandon]

That has to be the only sentence on the internet that is impossible to believe :P You could tell me aliens abducted my mother and exchanged for a cake and I'd believe you more than if you said that!
He didn't say he hasn't watched Porn though just that he hasn't downloaded it. ;) Who wants to keep watching the same thing anyway?

I hope BT don't betray me.. :(

[Oleh]

Orange doesnt seem to care about what i go on.

Also usenet, i tried using it i assume you need a newsgroup to connect to?

[LMS16]

They only rely on people crappin them selves to pay up cos it would cost them more to prove they have and to pay for a lawyer.

If I get 1 Ill just throw it away :)

And remember KIDS, when you're downloading, make sure you use PeerGuardian 2!

Lew.

[Eoin]

30,000 out of however many millions of people download in the uk? the chances of you being fined are very slim lol

[Black_Apalachi]

Oh I got scared because I was expecting this to be music-related. Pssshhh.

[GommeInc]

Oh I got scared because I was expecting this to be music-related. Pssshhh.
Everyone downloads porn, and I've seen your collection that time I snuck in for food ;) You can't escape :P

As everyone seems to say anyway, it would be difficult for them to actually do this. If anything, it would be the ones that abuse the system the most, but these people who do probably have the brains to make sure they're not caught.

Speaking of which, does PeerGuardian 2 work again? It used to not want to work years ago - on most PCs it was installed on, it would refuse to update itself.

[Black_Apalachi]

Everyone downloads porn, and I've seen your collection that time I snuck in for food ;) You can't escape :P

As everyone seems to say anyway, it would be difficult for them to actually do this. If anything, it would be the ones that abuse the system the most, but these people who do probably have the brains to make sure they're not caught.

Speaking of which, does PeerGuardian 2 work again? It used to not want to work years ago - on most PCs it was installed on, it would refuse to update itself.

Lmao I'd be way too scared to download porn. I get nervous of viruses when downloading music! Why is porn illegal anyway.. it's not like pirating when you download music :S

[Agnostic Bear]

And remember KIDS, when you're downloading, make sure you use PeerGuardian 2

PeerGuardian is completely useless and if you use it and think it's actually stopping those people at the corps from slapping you with charges and such, you are sadly mistaken.

[Hitman]

Lmao I'd be way too scared to download porn. I get nervous of viruses when downloading music! Why is porn illegal anyway.. it's not like pirating when you download music :S
Porn itself is not illegal*, however a lot of it is copyrighted like music/movies... the porn then gets sold but some people will distribute it like movies/music, hence piracy.

*some porn is illegal

[myke]

urm. what is usenet ;l

[Agnostic Bear]

urm. what is usenet ;l

Nothing, it's just a word there is nothing to it.

[myke]

Nothing, it's just a word there is nothing to it.

+rep thanks for your in depth answer :)

no srsly :(

[Stephen!]

I really think I should switch to usenet now.

Astraweb is the best, you say?

[Jahova]

For watching porn or what?

[Stephen!]

Nooo, just the usual warez stuff. Games, Music, Films, Apps

[Flisker]

I have usenet, I find it so much more easier than torrents and Rapidshare.

[Jahova]

Nooo, just the usual warez stuff. Games, Music, Films, Apps
Oh, Thanks!

[BoyBetterKnow]

Orange doesnt seem to care about what i go on.

Yeh they confused me a bit. We pay £25 for crap speed + 8GB a month but I download bare movies etc. and go way over lol

[Flisker]

o2 Home access fails lol they tried traffic management which failed then they TRIED to just switch off torrents and usenet completely and failed at that because you can just change the port and your back on.

[Niall!]

Nothing, it's just a word there is nothing to it.

Stop being such an absolute **** head. He asked a question and you have to come out with the HMPH I'm better than you so I'll make fun of you attitude.

Edited by Jamesy (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members, thanks.

[Oleh]

Yeh they confused me a bit. We pay £25 for crap speed + 8GB a month but I download bare movies etc. and go way over lol

:O - My mums on contract with orange (£30 a month) and we get up to 8mb (i get 8mb :) ) and unlimited downloads for £5 a month

This copy n paste from my router proves that -
Data Rate:

Stream Type

Actual Data Rate

Up Stream

604 (Kbps.)

Down Stream

8061 (Kbps.)

[Niall!]

:O - My mums on contract with orange (£30 a month) and we get up to 8mb (i get 8mb :) ) and unlimited downloads for £5 a month

This copy n paste from my router proves that -
Data Rate:

Stream Type

Actual Data Rate

Up Stream

604 (Kbps.)

Down Stream

8061 (Kbps.)

Strange, we pay £35 a month for 20MB broadband, TV and phone from Virgin.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/644089850.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Also, inb4 jewbear posts his internet speed because "ladeda I'm so great"

[Flisker]

:O - My mums on contract with orange (£30 a month) and we get up to 8mb (i get 8mb :) ) and unlimited downloads for £5 a month

This copy n paste from my router proves that -
Data Rate:

Stream Type

Actual Data Rate

Up Stream

604 (Kbps.)

Down Stream

8061 (Kbps.)

Sorry but whatever your router says isn't what your actually getting. Your router is syncing with the exchange at that rate but your actual throughput will be considerably less.

Take mine for example:

Router:
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:448 / 8,128 - That's showing that my router is syncing with the exchange at full speed.

Speedtest:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/644109158.png

BT Speedtester:
Download speed achieved during the test was - 2311 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 600-7150 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :8128 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 448 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 7150 Kbps