Bladerunner BBC2 NOW

[Smits]

Yeah, the directors cut with no voiceover. Plus it's on BBC2 which means no adverts, i'm gonna watch it. TUNE IN

[Neversoft]

Fantastic film, especially since it's The Final Cut. I watched it not long ago and have it on DVD so I'm going to give it a miss today, but urge anyone who hasn't seen it to do so if they ever get a chance. Definitely one of those films everyone must watch at least once in their life. Its worth it for Rutger Hauer's performance alone.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the edge of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain. Time to die."

[Misawa]

Outstanding film, especially the final cut.

[Black_Apalachi]

I only noticed it was on about an hour into it, kind of disappointed as well because it's great when films are on BBC as you say :(. Anyway I watched Dances With Wolves again just before it on BBC2 which is about three hours long so couldn't be bothered watching another movie :P.

[Misawa]

Ah, Dances with Wolves. Did you see the similarities between that and Avatar?

[Black_Apalachi]

What a question! I'm afraid to answer it though :P. I guess so yeah, that's pretty cool actually! I've seen it before but when I was watching it today I was thinking how modern it looks for a film that is as old as me lol.

Are you a fan of westerns generally (older, more traditional ones though)?

[Misawa]

VERY much so. You can't get much better than Leone's Dollars trilogy.

[Black_Apalachi]

OK I sound like a **** now but I don't think I've even seen A Fistful Of Dollars, nevermind the rest :eusa_wall. To be fair I haven't even seen that many Clint Eastwood westerns at all. Lots of John Wayne though, I love stuff like The Alamo and The Magnificent Seven.

[Misawa]

Go see the Dollars trilogy. The three best spaghetti westerns of all time.

[Neversoft]

A Fistful of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven are remakes of two of the best films ever made - Yojimbo and The Seven Samurai. It annoys me when people think A Fistful of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven are original films. Akira Kurosawa needs more credit. Kurosawa actually sued Leone for remaking his film without permission. He sent Leone a letter saying 'I have just had the chance to see your film. It is a very fine film, but it is my film. Since Japan is a signatory of the Berne Convention on international copyright, you must pay me.' Aparrently Leone was so pleased that Kurosawa called his work a 'fine film' that he went around showing the letter to everyone. In the end he did have to pay up the money though.

[Misawa]

You're quite right, though I personally prefer Leone's film to Yojimbo, as great as it is.

[Neversoft]

I love A Fistful of Dollars, and am a big fan of Clint but I prefer Yojimbo simply because of Toshiro Mifune. It's a shame there aren't really any actors like him today.

[Smits]

After only seeing bits of bladerunner before, i have to say it was a great watch. No wonder it was voted one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.

[Black_Apalachi]

I knew The Magnificent Seven was a remake. There are one or two references to the original in it as well.

Incidentaly, Bladerunner and Dances With Wolves are both available on BBC iPlayer for a week.

[Neversoft]

A Bug's Life is pretty much a remake of The Seven Samurai as well, or at least has the same concept and plot. :P I wonder if it is possible to create an entirely original film these days without drawing influence from any existing movies.

[Black_Apalachi]

A Bug's Life is pretty much a remake of The Seven Samurai as well, or at least has the same concept and plot. :P I wonder if it is possible to create an entirely original film these days without drawing influence from any existing movies.

Wow, I love how I just don't see these things but when you say it, it makes perfect sense! My mate always goes on about how the Lion King takes so much from Star Wars :P.

[Neversoft]

The Magnificent Seven, A Bug's Life, Sholay, The Three Amigos and even Galaxy Quest all have similar plot elements to The Seven Samurai.

I hate to sound like I'm hyping Kurosawa up but he was also one of the influences for Star Wars, haha. Kurosawa's film The Hidden Fortress is told from the point of view of two bumbling peasants, which is where Lucas got the idea to advance the plot of Star Wars through C-3P0 and R2-D2. Aparrently Lucas was borrowing so heavily from The Hidden Fortress that he considered buying the rights to the film, but Star Wars eventually moulded into his own creation.

I've heard people say how The Lion King borrows a lot from Star Wars too, although I have only seen The Lion King once and that was as a child, so I don't know any similarities myself. :P I'm not really a fan of Disney films to be honest.

[Black_Apalachi]

I don't think I remember everything, but for example, Timone & Pumba are like C-3P0 and R2, although that follows onto what you mentioned. The wise monkey thing is like Yoda and the "circle of life" is supposedly like the force.