Suggestions.

[Seatherny]

I have been reading all the threads in this section lately and I think the following 15 points will really help the forum:

1. Merge Forums - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618419
2. New, better skins. Please get members opinions before releasing these on the new vBulletin.
3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".
4. Remove Post Approval. These really are unattractive. Moderators are here for a reason, let them do their job. I am sure if a user is a bot and starts spamming and no Super Moderators/Admins are on, I am sure Moderators can issue several infractions and ban them themselves till a Super Moderator comes on to asses the situation. I am not sure if one of the custom questions are used at the moment when registering, but use them. I did on my forum and since then I rarely ever had any bots spamming my forum.
5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.
6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.
7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.
8. Promote things such as Debates more through the notices at the top of the forum. These would lead to more active discussions and therefore increased activity.
9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).
10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.
11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.
12. What this forum needs is more discussions. Maybe give out prizes to members who create GOOD discussion threads through out the forums. What you need to do is promote things more.
13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.
14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.
15. Things such as Christmas Forum's should have been created. It has been for the past 2 years (or I think) and it has always been very active with pages and pages of threads. You may say they can post it in Discuss Anything but it's not the same.

It would be good to get replies from many Administrators / Super Moderators. These threads are useless if they don't let us know what they think. I realise some of the above points have been raised before but some are new and I have expanded on some old ideas which have been suggested by members in the last few months.

[Sammeth.]

I have been reading all the threads in this section lately and I think the following 15 points will really help the forum:

1. Merge Forums - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618419
2. New, better skins. Please get members opinions before releasing these on the new vBulletin.

I agree with both the above points, and good points well made.

3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

By saying it was our mistake, surely we are admitting we are wrong?

4. Remove Post Approval. These really are unattractive. Moderators are here for a reason, let them do their job. I am sure if a user is a bot and starts spamming and no Super Moderators/Admins are on, I am sure Moderators can issue several infractions and ban them themselves till a Super Moderator comes on to asses the situation. I am not sure if one of the custom questions are used at the moment when registering, but use them. I did on my forum and since then I rarely ever had any bots spamming my forum.

I admit I'm not a huge fan of the post approval system, though I suppose it does serve for good in certain instances. If I had to weigh it up it would have more cons than pro's, but then again we did reduce the limit from 15 to 5 earlier this year.

5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

It would be nice to see some sort of competitions on the forum, and I hope the competitions department certainly pick up on this and think of some fun new unique ideas.

6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.
7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.

I think in terms of forum management replying the threads in feedback, that is of utmost importance but I've never really noticed a lack of posts from MattGarner or Garion in these parts. In regards to wanting Super Moderators to post more, then I guess thats valid within reason. In terms of feedback on the forum it would be interesting to see them post replies to that, but I wouldn't want them to prioritise making lots of posts just because. I would rather them post quality posts rather than post an immense quantity.

8. Promote things such as Debates more through the notices at the top of the forum. These would lead to more active discussions and therefore increased activity.
9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

I think it would be inappropriate of me to suggest anything in regards to how our current GM is cus he acknowledges what he's like at the moment :P But hopefully things on this front will be resolved soon.

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.
11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.
12. What this forum needs is more discussions. Maybe give out prizes to members who create GOOD discussion threads through out the forums. What you need to do is promote things more.
13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.
14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.

I don't think cutting down on moderation would be a good idea, particularly if one wants to remove post approval systems too.

15. Things such as Christmas Forum's should have been created. It has been for the past 2 years (or I think) and it has always been very active with pages and pages of threads. You may say they can post it in Discuss Anything but it's not the same.

I dont think these type of forums would make much of an impact. They have been successful in the past, granted, but in a time where we are trying to reduce the amount of forums we have, it would be very practicle.

It would be good to get replies from many Administrators / Super Moderators. These threads are useless if they don't let us know what they think. I realise some of the above points have been raised before but some are new and I have expanded on some old ideas which have been suggested by members in the last few months.

My responses in bold, good thread.

[Sharon]

I agree with all but the Matt Garner part I think he makes a wonderful GM...
Editt - This thread is getting popular this might just be successful

[Sammeth.]

I agree with all but the Matt Garner part I think he makes a wonderful AGM..
Oh I see how it is...

[Seatherny]

3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

By saying it was our mistake, surely we are admitting we are wrong?

The post sounded more as if the person was unbanned due to a mistake, not voluntarily :P My fault if I mis-read it.


I admit I'm not a huge fan of the post approval system, though I suppose it does serve for good in certain instances. If I had to weigh it up it would have more cons than pro's, but then again we did reduce the limit from 15 to 5 earlier this year.

How about asking them to answer a question when they register. I have seen the number of bots reduced alot due to them.


It would be nice to see some sort of competitions on the forum, and I hope the competitions department certainly pick up on this and think of some fun new unique ideas.

I think the (A)FM can easily do them as they are simple competitions but as long as they are done regularly, it will be great.


I think in terms of forum management replying the threads in feedback, that is of utmost importance but I've never really noticed a lack of posts from MattGarner or Garion in these parts. In regards to wanting Super Moderators to post more, then I guess thats valid within reason. In terms of feedback on the forum it would be interesting to see them post replies to that, but I wouldn't want them to prioritise making lots of posts just because. I would rather them post quality posts rather than post an immense quantity.

Garion always posts and I am not complaining about him. Although I see what you mean that posts arent as important, but at this time, it kind of is.


I don't think cutting down on moderation would be a good idea, particularly if one wants to remove post approval systems too.

Hire more moderators? I honestly think 3 super moderators are enough.


I dont think these type of forums would make much of an impact. They have been successful in the past, granted, but in a time where we are trying to reduce the amount of forums we have, it would be very practicle.

Yes, but this would only be temporary for about a month once a year ;)

[Sammeth.]

I didn't suggest hiring more, I just said it wouldn't be wise to reduce the numbers. I think moderator levels are just fine as they are.

[Hecktix]

I'm gonna reply to both you & Sam xo


I have been reading all the threads in this section lately and I think the following 15 points will really help the forum:

1. Merge Forums - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618419
2. New, better skins. Please get members opinions before releasing these on the new vBulletin.

I agree with both the above points, and good points well made.

I agree


3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

By saying it was our mistake, surely we are admitting we are wrong?

They aren't saying it was a mistake as in they mistakenly thought the caution should be lifted, they are saying that a mistake was made in the caution BEING lifted and they apologise for that, the caution being lifted was the mistake.

4. Remove Post Approval. These really are unattractive. Moderators are here for a reason, let them do their job. I am sure if a user is a bot and starts spamming and no Super Moderators/Admins are on, I am sure Moderators can issue several infractions and ban them themselves till a Super Moderator comes on to asses the situation. I am not sure if one of the custom questions are used at the moment when registering, but use them. I did on my forum and since then I rarely ever had any bots spamming my forum.

I admit I'm not a huge fan of the post approval system, though I suppose it does serve for good in certain instances. If I had to weigh it up it would have more cons than pro's, but then again we did reduce the limit from 15 to 5 earlier this year.

See my post in the thread for my full views, but DOWN WITH POST APPROVAL!

5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

It would be nice to see some sort of competitions on the forum, and I hope the competitions department certainly pick up on this and think of some fun new unique ideas.

6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.
7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.

I think in terms of forum management replying the threads in feedback, that is of utmost importance but I've never really noticed a lack of posts from MattGarner or Garion in these parts. In regards to wanting Super Moderators to post more, then I guess thats valid within reason. In terms of feedback on the forum it would be interesting to see them post replies to that, but I wouldn't want them to prioritise making lots of posts just because. I would rather them post quality posts rather than post an immense quantity.

Garion & Matt post plenty, remember they do have to do behind the scenes stuff and deal with real life as well, we can't ask too much.

I believe moderation is easier if moderators post, however it is not necessary and we have fine moderators who moderate without posting.

8. Promote things such as Debates more through the notices at the top of the forum. These would lead to more active discussions and therefore increased activity.

Garion tried, it didn't go down too well...

9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

I think it would be inappropriate of me to suggest anything in regards to how our current GM is cus he acknowledges what he's like at the moment :P But hopefully things on this front will be resolved soon.

I don't see this as an issue, Jin is filling in perfectly fine and Roxy, Matt, Sam, Jake are doing well as the assistant team, although a permanent GM would be nice in future.

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.

Suggesting MG is like ---MAD--- is absurd. I'll refer to the person who said an infraction is like a nuclear attack, and say there is more likeness in this than MG being like ---MAD---


11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.

This has been spoken about and will be introduced in the new year, I think.

12. What this forum needs is more discussions. Maybe give out prizes to members who create GOOD discussion threads through out the forums. What you need to do is promote things more.

An awards system is being considered.

13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.

This is also the view of Management.
14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.

I don't think cutting down on moderation would be a good idea, particularly if one wants to remove post approval systems too.

There is a need for 3 Super Moderators in my opinion, 4 is a little excessive in current climates. I think we also have a need to hire more specialised mods for certain forums (which is being done).

15. Things such as Christmas Forum's should have been created. It has been for the past 2 years (or I think) and it has always been very active with pages and pages of threads. You may say they can post it in Discuss Anything but it's not the same.

I dont think these type of forums would make much of an impact. They have been successful in the past, granted, but in a time where we are trying to reduce the amount of forums we have, it would be very practicle.

I agree, these forums would make a lot of threads on top of the ones already posted, I disagree with Sam that they wouldn't be a good thing HOWEVER I completely understand why things such as this weren't considered as we are trying to cut down forums, not add new ones.



It would be good to get replies from many Administrators / Super Moderators. These threads are useless if they don't let us know what they think. I realise some of the above points have been raised before but some are new and I have expanded on some old ideas which have been suggested by members in the last few months.

[Calvin]

I don't understand how you can make a mistake lifting a caution?

But yeah.. one of the main ones is the skin.

[xxMATTGxx]

I have been reading all the threads in this section lately and I think the following 15 points will really help the forum:

1. Merge Forums - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618419
2. New, better skins. Please get members opinions before releasing these on the new vBulletin.

Number one is already in talks regarding the merges of the forums. :)

I agree that the new skins for vb4 should get members opinions first but most you can't always please everybody. So it may be mixed results.


3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

Done most of the time to be honest.

4. Remove Post Approval. These really are unattractive. Moderators are here for a reason, let them do their job. I am sure if a user is a bot and starts spamming and no Super Moderators/Admins are on, I am sure Moderators can issue several infractions and ban them themselves till a Super Moderator comes on to asses the situation. I am not sure if one of the custom questions are used at the moment when registering, but use them. I did on my forum and since then I rarely ever had any bots spamming my forum.

In the thread regarding it I said I had no issues of it being removed. But it has got good reasons for why it shouldn't go.


5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

Could be a good idea to see more competitions. I shall see what that department says regarding it. Unless you mean ran by Forum Management etc, if so. Talks are in that but trying to think of the which prizes would be best for this.

6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.

I know what you mean regarding older members scaring away new members and it will be tackled by the Moderation Department. How harsh are we talking here?

7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.

I will see regarding the threads wise but I don't think I'm lacking in posts. I try and post in most feedback threads and If I don't I always read up the suggestions when they are discussed with other management. But I shall put that into one of the things I should do more. Regarding the Moderation Staff posting around the forum, this one idea that has already been taken into account.

8. Promote things such as Debates more through the notices at the top of the forum. These would lead to more active discussions and therefore increased activity.
9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

Would be wrong for me to comment on the "better" bit but I have no issues with him anyway. Permanent is the most important bit, I'm sure it will get sorted soon. :)

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.

Sorry that you feel that way but regarding the post wise, I will bump that up.

11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.

I don't remember it personally but could be a good idea. There is something in talks regarding such competitions, just trying to see the best way to do this and what prizes could be given out.

12. What this forum needs is more discussions. Maybe give out prizes to members who create GOOD discussion threads through out the forums. What you need to do is promote things more.

You have any ideas for the prizes, unless you mean VIP/Donator?

13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.
14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.

No point in cutting the Moderation Team regarding Super Moderators. It helps when people have to take "leave" or go away on holiday.

15. Things such as Christmas Forum's should have been created. It has been for the past 2 years (or I think) and it has always been very active with pages and pages of threads. You may say they can post it in Discuss Anything but it's not the same.

Not sure if it would be a "big" impact but I did apologize for their not being one this year. :)

It would be good to get replies from many Administrators / Super Moderators. These threads are useless if they don't let us know what they think. I realise some of the above points have been raised before but some are new and I have expanded on some old ideas which have been suggested by members in the last few months.

In bold.

[Seatherny]

I agree that the new skins for vb4 should get members opinions first but most you can't always please everybody. So it may be mixed results.

If you don't ask for members opinions, I can see more complaints from members if they dislike the skins. Its always best to ask opinions on these things and implement the ones which you think are best.


In the thread regarding it I said I had no issues of it being removed. But it has got good reasons for why it shouldn't go.

Hence the alternative option to use custom questions which is usually more effective.


I know what you mean regarding older members scaring away new members and it will be tackled by the Moderation Department. How harsh are we talking here?
Depends on how bad what the member said was. Maybe straight infraction and no warning, or even a caution.


I will see regarding the threads wise but I don't think I'm lacking in posts. I try and post in most feedback threads and If I don't I always read up the suggestions when they are discussed with other management. But I shall put that into one of the things I should do more. Regarding the Moderation Staff posting around the forum, this one idea that has already been taken into account.
I realise I have been complaining quite a lot about you and 2 super moderators, but at this time, when the forum doesnt get as many active discussions, I think its vital that all forum staff post regularly.
Its good to see you will try harder though, so thanks.


You have any ideas for the prizes, unless you mean VIP/Donator?

You could possible give the winner a option of HC Sofa (or something similar) or VIP. I can see most people opting for VIP as you can only buy this during Christmas I think.


No point in cutting the Moderation Team regarding Super Moderators. It helps when people have to take "leave" or go away on holiday.

I am sure if there were to be 3 super mods, and one was to go on leave, 2 can easily handle it :)

[hah]

God Dam you Saurav, complaining again!!!!!!! ;)


The only reason the debates failed is because Garion posted one about Casual Sex, obviously looking for people to meet on the forum ;lll :lol:

I Suggested a good few things to Competitions like using pictures in competitions and making a thread with T&C's and sticking it so they dont have to post them in every thread which puts of users, the manager said he would do this.. whether or not it happens is another thing.

I agree that the categories need to be merged, they should be done asap instead of waiting around.

AND INTRODUCE THE BADGE AWARD SYSTEM......IT WOULD GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THINGS BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEARD THE 12DAYS OF XMAS WAS ONLY GETTING LIKE 3 PEOPLE A DAY ENTERING LOL

and enable youtube videos, i know this is a feature of vb4 so allowed us to use it.....no one clicks youtube links




ALSO MATT FOR THR PRIZE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF VIP LOL

OFFER THINGS LIKE BADGES IF YOU INTRODUCE THE SYSTEM OR ELSE 100REP POINTS OR 200 ETC.. LIKE OTHER FORUMS

soz this is in caps

[Hecktix]

God Dam you Saurav, complaining again!!!!!!! ;)

AND INTRODUCE THE BADGE AWARD SYSTEM......IT WOULD GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THINGS BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEARD THE 12DAYS OF XMAS WAS ONLY GETTING LIKE 3 PEOPLE A DAY ENTERING LOL

and enable youtube videos, i know this is a feature of vb4 so allowed us to use it.....no one clicks youtube links

Until the last day when someone ignored infrequent saying it should be in a stickied thread and posted a seperate thread too when we got nearly 30 entries (A)

[Seatherny]

I think that was actually a really good competition, but it should have been promoted more through the Notices at the top of the forum. This is because not everyone checks the Announcement forum.


God Dam you Saurav, complaining again!!!!!!!

Of course you never complain ;)

[Hecktix]

I think that was actually a really good competition, but it should have been promoted more through the Notices at the top of the forum. This is because not everyone checks the Announcement forum.



Of course you never complain ;)

It was good, I've also discussed with Matt (and garion briefly) ideas of doing short competitions for minor prizes like 10 rep points or whatever. :)

[Seatherny]

I am not sure if VIP's very own sub-forum exists anymore, but if one was given out as a prize every month (so 12 in a year - each there for 6 months), that would get alot of entries.

[Hecktix]

I am not sure if VIP's very own sub-forum exists anymore, but if one was given out as a prize every month (so 12 in a year - each there for 6 months), that would get alot of entries.

I think Management are very against those subforums, they won't even put the KKK back :P

[xxMATTGxx]

If you don't ask for members opinions, I can see more complaints from members if they dislike the skins. Its always best to ask opinions on these things and implement the ones which you think are best.

I know but I was just saying that you can't always please everyone. But I agree about showing members some previews. :)

Hence the alternative option to use custom questions which is usually more effective.

Which is why I have no issue with it being removed.

Depends on how bad what the member said was. Maybe straight infraction and no warning, or even a caution.


I realise I have been complaining quite a lot about you and 2 super moderators, but at this time, when the forum doesnt get as many active discussions, I think its vital that all forum staff post regularly.
Its good to see you will try harder though, so thanks.

No worries.


You could possible give the winner a option of HC Sofa (or something similar) or VIP. I can see most people opting for VIP as you can only buy this during Christmas I think.




I am sure if there were to be 3 super mods, and one was to go on leave, 2 can easily handle it :)

Maybe, but no need to cut it down at the moment. We are just fine on how it is at the miment. :)








ALSO MATT FOR THR PRIZE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF VIP LOL

OFFER THINGS LIKE BADGES IF YOU INTRODUCE THE SYSTEM OR ELSE 100REP POINTS OR 200 ETC.. LIKE OTHER FORUMS


Always open for views on other prizes. Not many people are fond of the badge system but I don't have an issue with it being installed.


I think Management are very against those subforums, they won't even put the KKK back :P

Yeah, I don't think these "sub-forums" will be coming back any time soon.

[Seatherny]

I think Management are very against those subforums, they won't even put the KKK back :P

Was that because they slowed the forum down? But 6 there at any one time shouldn't be too bad should it on the new server?

[hah]

in the new skins put a space between each category, i know its little and might sound stupid but it makes you notice forums better cause they all seem grouped together here

edit; though loads asked for it in the "forum going down hill thread" once the badges looked nice........ or was i seeing things

[Martin]

A lot of very good suggestions there. I know a lot of those things are being worked on, and unfortunately they do take time. Miracles don't happen overnight.

I'm sure we will get a permanent general manager soon, and I'm sure if they are vocal, and active in feedback then things would pick up. The community needs a figure they can associate the forum with, both On Habbo and on the forum. Matt and Garion are brilliant in my opinion, and they both regularly post in this forum.

Regarding Moderators, I think cutting down Supermoderators is a bit of a bad idea to be honest. Their job is so important to the forum, and they can do so much more that moderatots cannot. They are not always online at the same time anyway, The Supermoderators really help us Normal ones out. They are the ones who can see the "Reported posts" and they are the ones that deal with profile/signature violations. They have a large workload, and they cope with it just fine. Four is a stable number, and as Matt said, their ability to moderate almost every forum is great for when Section moderators are Ill/away.

Things will be changing for the better, I'm sure new skins will get made, and the post approval system will get sorted. All these things will hopefully increase the amount of new members. We want those new members to come to a happy place, a community. I don't think you asking Matt to step down is the best outcome at all, especially in the public way which you did. It just causes more friction and things take even longer to sort.


The News department (Yes we are still around somewhere in the distance), will be doing some competitions of it's own soon, and we will be trying to get the community involved more. It's a team effort and I would love all departments to work together to get people involved more. The latest batch of News Applications was huge, and the majority of those that applied signed up to the forum specifically to apply. This shows that people are willing to join if they can be involved, and if there is something for them to achieve. I like the idea of awards/achievements.

It's great that you made this thread, and it's nice to see all the suggestions in one place, where they can be acted upon.

[Jordy]

Excellent points Saurav I agree with pretty much all of them.

Why not just cut down on all the bureaucracy? I get the impression every single decision is discussed at length in some sort of admin forum. This is a very slow system and I'm sure this way, things can easily be forgotten about.

IMO Admins should just be able to do what they want when they want, there is advantages to being democratic, but remember this is a forum though not a government.

E.g. if Sammeth wanted to create a referral competition, why can't he just go into forum settings and do it there and then. Instead of waiting around on others and waiting for weekly updates etc.

I doubt this'll happen but I honestly do believe a lot more changes could be implemented a lot better if management and admins could just do what they wanted, when they wanted.

[Hecktix]

Was that because they slowed the forum down? But 6 there at any one time shouldn't be too bad should it on the new server?

You'd have to ask them, but I think it is a plausible idea.

Not fond of it myself, but I'm not the forum, I'm one person, if the majority of the forum like it then i'd support this being implemented.

[Jamesy]

in the new skins put a space between each category, i know its little and might sound stupid but it makes you notice forums better cause they all seem grouped together here

edit; though loads asked for it in the "forum going down hill thread" once the badges looked nice........ or was i seeing things

In vB4 this is the default setup for skins :). The only exception is classic which is as near to this as possible - even requiring a re-write of an entire template.

[Seatherny]

You'd have to ask them, but I think it is a plausible idea.

Not fond of it myself, but I'm not the forum, I'm one person, if the majority of the forum like it then i'd support this being implemented.

I can see the sub-forums being quite empty, but I also think a lot of people would enter the competitions as they would want a sub-forum.

And I agree Jordy. Garion said the "Merging Forums" idea was being discussed in the Management Forum. I don't understand why that is necessary. Matt and Garion are (A)FM and they should just be allowed to make such things happen. If they don't have the admincp permission, I am sure they can PM someone who has. If all members discuss it in this section, then Admins discuss it again in their section, it will be months before its implemented.

[Immenseman]

I think it's an excellent idea you got ideas that have been discussed and put them all in one thread an therefore hopefully will be given straight answers. Ensures that threads that were popular aren't forgotten which is often the case in this forum. Somebody should take it upon themselves to do this monthly or so.




3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

On this front I think they should stick to the rules they set out and that we agree to which is 5 infractions = caution 10 infractions = permed. No mistakes can be made there. In my case, I don't believe I should be exempt from these I was banned for a month for 1 infraction. Cautioned for 1 warning and no infractions. They'd be no mistakes if they stuck to what they set out.

5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

I think that's being worked on. It has been discussed for too long and I haven't seen any improvement. They need to be funner and more forum based. Even just smaller things like posting a funny image in forum announcements and asking for the best caption. Keep it open for 24 hours and don't make the thread too long. Something like so...



Hey guys and gals,

Time for a forum competition, I've decided to make it a caption competition, where I will post an image and you PM me the wittiest caption you can think of. Here's the image...

http://www.frenchfriends.info/files/funny_soccer.jpg

Please send your answer to me by clicking here and the winner will receive 50 reputation points. This closes in 24 hours and the winner will be posted in this thread tomorrow with the winning caption!

Good luck!

Just an idea - took me 5 minutes and I guarantee it'd get quite a few people to participate. Makes them quicker, funnier, smoother, more attractive etc etc.

7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.

I don't think they really need to, I don't see how that possibly makes things any better or worse. You say you want them to act before discussing it then say you want them to post it so it can be discussed. If they have an idea, they should implement it. They're intelligent, old and ugly enough to have a bit of freedom imo.

9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

This has to be sorted soon but I think nvr knows that. Personally, I'd rather see someone new and keep Jin as owner and techy and I think I'd make infrequent general manager. Don't talk to him, don't like/dislike him but I think he's the best person for the job thinking about it.

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.

I think management in general need to post more. I think Matt posts more than a hell of a lot of managers. There was a point I'd easily be able to name all the department managers. Now, I wouldn't have a clue yet I still use Habbo(x) daily. I still think there should be a Habbox Q&A session on Habbo every fortnight or so, where random members of management answer habbox related questions. I reckon it would work and would be popular. Just to add, the forum and Habbox improved greatly with ---MAD--- a lot of the active members joined under his 'reign' and he made things get done which is more than can be said for anybody at the mo.

11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.

Agree strongly with this. Even if people just do it for VIP/Furni who cares if it brings in some new members. I know the issue is with keeping the members. Just say we keep 10% of members for arguments sake. 10 people sign up in a week we keep 1. 100 sign up in a week due to a referal comp - we keep 10. Not many but a short term solution and gives people a goal and something to do.

14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.

I actually think we should have no moderators and all super moderators but I think it was only me and 8freak8 who ever thought that was a good idea. :P


Excellent points Saurav I agree with pretty much all of them.

Why not just cut down on all the bureaucracy? I get the impression every single decision is discussed at length in some sort of admin forum. This is a very slow system and I'm sure this way, things can easily be forgotten about.

IMO Admins should just be able to do what they want when they want, there is advantages to being democratic, but remember this is a forum though not a government.

E.g. if Sammeth wanted to create a referral competition, why can't he just go into forum settings and do it there and then. Instead of waiting around on others and waiting for weekly updates etc.

I doubt this'll happen but I honestly do believe a lot more changes could be implemented a lot better if management and admins could just do what they wanted, when they wanted.

This has to be done!! Department managers have to discuss what they're doing. When I was a department manager me and other managers did what we thought was best for our departments, then explained our actions. Worked better, clearly.

[hah]

I agree with the point jake said that no managers at all post, most of them come here to get a job and get it with a very low post count, i dont want to single them out but

Jess and 99% of the djs never post, all jess's posts are annoucements. If you look at Clubhabbo all their DJ are deciated and have around 2500+ posts. I can guarntee that nearly all your djs would leave the forum if the radio closed, where as they wouldnt on Clubhabbo.

And the Helpdesk staff, i see dogboy and Hoteluser posts sometimes but thats all? Normal Habbos come into Hxhd and want a job join they forum get reccs of people they have made friends with and get the job with very little posts. Andt hen they only come on to post their reports thats all...

i bet half this forum would be better staff than some of the current hxhd, i think most of them just do it for the rights in the room

[Inseriousity.]

5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

*coughs next month coughs*

6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.

Yeah I don't get all the faffing around tbh


9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

and a GM who replies to PMs *grrrrrr I'm looking at you Jin* :P

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.

I always see MattGarner posting? He's in almost every feedback thread?

13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.

Agreed, I think this was established though.

I just replied to some of them as not all of them are my expertise, hope you don't mind :D

[hah]

I just replied to some of them as not all of them are my expertise, hope you don't mind :D

You're always saying "Next Month" but when will it ever come, you're another example. You're here 4 Years and you have 1000 posts and your a manager that's not even 1 post a day

[Inseriousity.]

You're always saying "Next Month" but when will it ever come, you're another example. You're here 4 Years and you have 1000 posts and your a manager that's not even 1 post a day

I'm saying next month because we've already done the competitions for next month. It will come cos when I say next month, I actually mean next month. We have a thread 'Aims of 2010' in the comps staff forum and your suggestions are on there. I think people should stop expecting instant results.

Surely it's about the quality of the person not the quantity of their post count that's important.

[Roxy]

AND INTRODUCE THE BADGE AWARD SYSTEM......IT WOULD GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THINGS BECAUSE FROM WHAT I HEARD THE 12DAYS OF XMAS WAS ONLY GETTING LIKE 3 PEOPLE A DAY ENTERING LOL

and enable youtube videos, i know this is a feature of vb4 so allowed us to use it.....no one clicks youtube links




ALSO MATT FOR THR PRIZE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF VIP LOL

OFFER THINGS LIKE BADGES IF YOU INTRODUCE THE SYSTEM OR ELSE 100REP POINTS OR 200 ETC.. LIKE OTHER FORUMS

soz this is in caps

I love the idea of a badge system, it'd be an easy way to get people who use mainly Habbo involved in the forum more too, even if it's just by giving them a badge saying they won an event.


I think that was actually a really good competition, but it should have been promoted more through the Notices at the top of the forum. This is because not everyone checks the Announcement forum.



Of course you never complain ;)

***More notices coming soon*** It's something I noticed straight away so we are going to start using that to promote things departments are doing more.


Excellent points Saurav I agree with pretty much all of them.

Why not just cut down on all the bureaucracy? I get the impression every single decision is discussed at length in some sort of admin forum. This is a very slow system and I'm sure this way, things can easily be forgotten about.

IMO Admins should just be able to do what they want when they want, there is advantages to being democratic, but remember this is a forum though not a government.

E.g. if Sammeth wanted to create a referral competition, why can't he just go into forum settings and do it there and then. Instead of waiting around on others and waiting for weekly updates etc.

I doubt this'll happen but I honestly do believe a lot more changes could be implemented a lot better if management and admins could just do what they wanted, when they wanted.



This has to be done!! Department managers have to discuss what they're doing. When I was a department manager me and other managers did what we thought was best for our departments, then explained our actions. Worked better, clearly.

The community departments discuss their ideas with me, nothing too lengthy just a quick pm saying what they want to do. I then give my feedback on their ideas before they go ahead, which IMO works a lot better (not just because it's my job :P) but because it helps the ideas to develop more before they're actually put into place.

I do agree with most of Sauravs points so hopefully quite a few of them will go ahead.

[hah]

Yeah but im sure its not hard to make more than one quality post a day

[Alex3213]

You're always saying "Next Month" but when will it ever come, you're another example. You're here 4 Years and you have 1000 posts and your a manager that's not even 1 post a day

I can almost guarentee that these few things which you suggested are coming because he has posted them in an Aims thread for next month :), they're not too difficult to accomplish either so I think this will all run smoothly.

[Inseriousity.]

Yeah but im sure its not hard to make more than one quality post a day

I've done 3 in this very thread. :rolleyes: Plus my join date isn't really accurate, I registered but left and only came back last year or something.

[hah]

well i was goin on the fact you have been here for the full four years, if you have been here only year its sort-of ok :P

and i think you should hire me cause my great ideas :lol: -cofffffffffff-













jkes

[xxMATTGxx]

I can see the sub-forums being quite empty, but I also think a lot of people would enter the competitions as they would want a sub-forum.

And I agree Jordy. Garion said the "Merging Forums" idea was being discussed in the Management Forum. I don't understand why that is necessary. Matt and Garion are (A)FM and they should just be allowed to make such things happen. If they don't have the admincp permission, I am sure they can PM someone who has. If all members discuss it in this section, then Admins discuss it again in their section, it will be months before its implemented.

Just to make it clear to people. Myself and Garion do have admincp access and can merge forums and do whatever else we may have to do in admin. Sometimes other things need to be done by higher up but that's nothing related to merging forums. Since the next merge is going to be a big one with many forums changing/merging and so on, once its happened. Things like this are discussed to get the views from other Management and also to get some sort of "Go ahead". Because its not easy putting it all back if someone says we shouldn't of done that. :P

[Seatherny]

I understand what you mean about getting the go-ahead, but these things shouldnt be discussed for ages or take ages to implement is my opinion.

Create a new thread in Management forum:

Right this is what we want to merge, whats your opinions. Please post them within 7 days.

After 7 days, merge them etc.

[The Professor]

sorry this thread is tl;dr.

The only thing I disagree with in the OP is cutting down on the number of smods. There is never a reason to reduce the number of moderators, having too many is far better than having few or even a "just right" number. If we only have 3 smods and one is away, the backlog of work builds up massively (there's a lot more effort goes into smodding than people realise) and stuff doesn't get done and people start crying. So yknow, 4 is good.


Excellent points Saurav I agree with pretty much all of them.

Why not just cut down on all the bureaucracy? I get the impression every single decision is discussed at length in some sort of admin forum. This is a very slow system and I'm sure this way, things can easily be forgotten about.

IMO Admins should just be able to do what they want when they want, there is advantages to being democratic, but remember this is a forum though not a government.

E.g. if Sammeth wanted to create a referral competition, why can't he just go into forum settings and do it there and then. Instead of waiting around on others and waiting for weekly updates etc.

I doubt this'll happen but I honestly do believe a lot more changes could be implemented a lot better if management and admins could just do what they wanted, when they wanted.

EWWWW AT HXF/GOVERNMENT COMPARISONS. These make me wanna slit so badly. But yeah the longer these changes take the more the forum will die. There is absolutely no need for any change to take over a month to implement.

Btw managers doing what they want is allowed up to a point atm but if they wanna make what's considered a "big change" it has to be OK'd with general management first. But that only takes 5 minutes so we seem to be about a month over schedule.

[Inseriousity.]

But that only takes 5 minutes so we seem to be about a month over schedule.

I wish. :(

[xxMATTGxx]

I understand what you mean about getting the go-ahead, but these things shouldnt be discussed for ages or take ages to implement is my opinion.

Create a new thread in Management forum:

Right this is what we want to merge, whats your opinions. Please post them within 7 days.

After 7 days, merge them etc.

I see where you are coming from then that time of year comes again and people go busy and run away with the reindeers! :(

[Seatherny]

sorry this thread is tl;dr.

The only thing I disagree with in the OP is cutting down on the number of smods. There is never a reason to reduce the number of moderators, having too many is far better than having few or even a "just right" number. If we only have 3 smods and one is away, the backlog of work builds up massively (there's a lot more effort goes into smodding than people realise) and stuff doesn't get done and people start crying. So yknow, 4 is good.


Although smodding has changed slightly over the last 2 years, if I was able to handle it all on my own for several months, so I am sure 3 super mods can easily do it. This was during the time Seacat ran the forum etc so its not as if the forum was dead :P

[Hecktix]

I agree with the point jake said that no managers at all post, most of them come here to get a job and get it with a very low post count, i dont want to single them out but

Jess and 99% of the djs never post, all jess's posts are annoucements. If you look at Clubhabbo all their DJ are deciated and have around 2500+ posts. I can guarntee that nearly all your djs would leave the forum if the radio closed, where as they wouldnt on Clubhabbo.

And the Helpdesk staff, i see dogboy and Hoteluser posts sometimes but thats all? Normal Habbos come into Hxhd and want a job join they forum get reccs of people they have made friends with and get the job with very little posts. Andt hen they only come on to post their reports thats all...

i bet half this forum would be better staff than some of the current hxhd, i think most of them just do it for the rights in the room

Staff posting more is something that I have mentioned, however obviously a push to make staff post it gonna be hard. However I can assure you that we are starting with the moderation department and we should *hopefully* see more mods posting in the new year :)

[Nixt]

I have been reading all the threads in this section lately and I think the following 15 points will really help the forum:

1. Merge Forums - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=618419

This is in discussion, as has been said. Unfortunately due to the scale of the changes we do need to seek approval from the most senior members of management. We really like your ideas and I do think they will be implemented soon, if not in the New Year. I think the biggest issue here is that as our general management team, although now improved considerably, is still lacking a distinct GM - this is, I think, the key to getting changes implemented quickly and effectively. I will discuss this point further below.

2. New, better skins. Please get members opinions before releasing these on the new vBulletin.

As you know, new styles are in production. Senior members of management have seen then and given them their approval. I will talk to Jin about the possibility of having select members of the forum view the skins and offer their opinion. I say a select amount because if everyone saw them before their release there would be far too many conflicting opinions and it would make it difficult to make improvements where necessary. I think it would be good for some people to see them, though.

3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

I definitely think this kind of thing is improving. I've advised members of staff to turn around and apologise, rather than continue a futile argument in the past. It's improving and to be fair I don't think this is a massive issue.

4. Remove Post Approval. These really are unattractive. Moderators are here for a reason, let them do their job. I am sure if a user is a bot and starts spamming and no Super Moderators/Admins are on, I am sure Moderators can issue several infractions and ban them themselves till a Super Moderator comes on to asses the situation. I am not sure if one of the custom questions are used at the moment when registering, but use them. I did on my forum and since then I rarely ever had any bots spamming my forum.

I totally agree. I didn't like this system from the beginning and that opinion remains. Admittedly there are advantages and indeed, our Moderators have gotten a lot better at approving posts. Nevertheless I think it's a deterrent for new members and retaining those new members should be our priority - not reducing spam which has never been a massive issue, anyway.

5. More competitions within the forum. There have been many suggestions such as hiding things around the forum, in threads / posts and the members have to find it.

Do you mean things ran by Forum Management, or competitions ran by the relevant departments on the forum? Either way I agree - I'll talk to Matt about possibilities.

6. If a old member is bullying/arguing etc with a new member (without a valid reason) or something then take quite harsh action against them as they are the reason the forum gets less new members.

I agree, we do need to take decisive action against those who seem to ridicule and bully new members. Moderators are aware of this, and it will most certainly start happening.

7. Have the Super Moderators and Forum Manager create more threads. They also need to reply alot more to threads in "Habbox Feedback". Believe it or not, new members love it when they see Administrators or Super Moderators replying to their threads. I rarely see some Super Moderators and the Forum Manager creating any threads.

I make a lot of effort to reply to threads in this forum, and post about generally where possible. One also needs to bear in mind that we do have personal lives and when we are online we do have work to do and thus posting can be inconvenient. Nevertheless I do think some people across the Habbox Staff team (not only our Moderators) could make more of an effort - hopefully they will take note of your comments and attempt to improve :).

8. Promote things such as Debates more through the notices at the top of the forum. These would lead to more active discussions and therefore increased activity.

Jin didn't want to see debates return full stop, I am not sure how far he would like us to advertise them if he doesn't agree with having them about in the first place :P!

9. A better permanent GM. A GM who also posts alot around the forums. Has anyone noticed how the forum was very popular when Seacat, JackHB, Anitar and DJ-3000 ran it? It was because they posted regularly in feedback threads and most of them posted alot around the forums. nvrspk4 is beter suited to be AGM, not GM (if he decides to come back).

Jin needs to make Sammeth GM. No doubt about it - it needs to happen and soon. He then needs to give Sammeth the power he needs to make changes, abolishing the aforementioned bureaucracy which I agree is an issue.

10. MattGarner (as I said above) needs to post alot more. There is a reason why many members are unhappy with him. This isn't me complaining but me trying to help him. He is following in MAD's footsteps.

Regardless of whether I agree or disagree, Garner has taken note of your advice and said he will try to improve - you can't ask for more, especially as he is currently upholding two very difficult and busy roles. I think he's doing a good job :).

11. There used to be referral competitions a few years ago, consider doing them every 4 months or something (or even every month). Yes many members will cheat, but check the IP's of the winner's and see if the member created clones. They can obviously bypass this, but if they do it for habbo furni/VIP, then they are seriously lame. Either way, you will still get some new active members.

I think they are a good idea and the ACP has an option (I think...) that allows us to run these competitions rather easily, as well as allowing us to check that members aren't cheating.

12. What this forum needs is more discussions. Maybe give out prizes to members who create GOOD discussion threads through out the forums. What you need to do is promote things more.

Member of the Month embodies this idea... I guess we could also give prizes to individual members who create active and interesting threads - even Administrators (Matt and I, in particular) replying and 'repping' threads that do a good job of generating discussions would help I think.

13. DO NOT do it so unregistered can only view so many threads. That is the worst idea ever - it will just push guests away regardless of what people say.

Fair point :P

14. Cut down on the number of Super Moderators. 2 or maximum 3 is enough. We don't need 4, especially not now when the forum is less active.

To be fair we may well have 'too many' Super Moderators in one sense, but as PA said (yeah I know it's TheProfessor or w/e but you will always be PA to me :$) you can never really have too many. I wouldn't say this is a pressing issue and I certainly don't think it is one that is having a negative affect on the forum.

15. Things such as Christmas Forum's should have been created. It has been for the past 2 years (or I think) and it has always been very active with pages and pages of threads. You may say they can post it in Discuss Anything but it's not the same.

Retrospectively, this would have been a good idea.

It would be good to get replies from many Administrators / Super Moderators. These threads are useless if they don't let us know what they think. I realise some of the above points have been raised before but some are new and I have expanded on some old ideas which have been suggested by members in the last few months.

Well there is my two cents. I apologise for the delay in my reply, I normally like to respond to such threads promptly, but it's an awfully busy time of year (irl).

[Seatherny]

Do you mean things ran by Forum Management, or competitions ran by the relevant departments on the forum? Either way I agree - I'll talk to Matt about possibilities.

Competitions ran and promoted by Forum Staff.


I make a lot of effort to reply to threads in this forum, and post about generally where possible. One also needs to bear in mind that we do have personal lives and when we are online we do have work to do and thus posting can be inconvenient. Nevertheless I do think some people across the Habbox Staff team (not only our Moderators) could make more of an effort - hopefully they will take note of your comments and attempt to improve .

That point wasnt directed at you as I have noticed you and invincible are the most active when it comes to discussions.


Jin didn't want to see debates return full stop, I am not sure how far he would like us to advertise them if he doesn't agree with having them about in the first place !
Is there a reason why he didn't want i returning? I think Debates is a very good section as it leads to many active discussions and gets users to return in order to continue the debate - e.g. the debates on BNP and Ethnic Minorities had many members contributing to it.

[Immenseman]

Just a general thing to add on to what Graham touched on. Too many times do I see "it's being worked on" or "it's being discussed, something should happen soon" or "that's on our objective for next month". The forum and Habbox are going through their worst period since I've been here. It needs decisive action - not ***** footing around. I know management agree with me on this so why is nothing being done. Do what you think is right, stop trying to people please. You run the forum, not the members - you have to be more like 8f8 and MAD and just get on with it. I think since nvr took over things are more *i can't think of the word but I mean like too much discussion and weighing up options and thinking about reaction*. Make the changes and then see how they go, if they don't work, scrap them. Something is better than nothing.

[Seatherny]

I agree with Jake. Quick decisions is what this forum needs. A quick thread by Forum Management in Managers section:

Right this is what we propose:
-new feature / change or whatever-
Your opinions will be appreciated - you have 7 days.

Simple. There is no point discussing it for weeks.

[Nixt]

Competitions ran and promoted by Forum Staff.

I'd like to do this, we'll have to work out what prizes we can give. As VIP quota is limited and general management do not like the idea of giving out rep.

Is there a reason why he didn't want i returning? I think Debates is a very good section as it leads to many active discussions and gets users to return in order to continue the debate - e.g. the debates on BNP and Ethnic Minorities had many members contributing to it.

I think because he thought it would unsuccessful and that if I were to leave my successor would lose interest and fail to uphold them.




I agree with Jake. Quick decisions is what this forum needs. A quick thread by Forum Management in Managers section:

Right this is what we propose:
-new feature / change or whatever-
Your opinions will be appreciated - you have 7 days.

Simple. There is no point discussing it for weeks.

Something I'd love to do, but we simply do not have the power. The changes we want to make affect the forum in a way that they must be approved by Jin for the most part - either because they're big (the forum merger you suggested) or Matt and I do not have the relevant Administrative powers to complete them (i.e. the introduction of a badge system). All of the suggestions posted here and brought up in Forum Management only, we are just awaiting replies from Jin whom I have PM'd asking to reply to them as soon as is possible. I think this accentuates the need for a General Manager.

[FlyingJesus]

I wish people wouldn't make replies within the quote it's bare ugly and difficult to re-quote and then I cry and all sorts of nonsense

[Seatherny]

Why not have an Assistant General Manager (Forum) who could install the badge system etc? Would be so much quicker than having to go through GM's. The AGM (Forum) can then be asked for approval on forum related things.

[Hecktix]

Why not have an Assistant General Manager (Forum) who could install the badge system etc? Would be so much quicker than having to go through GM's. The AGM (Forum) can then be asked for approval on forum related things.

I personally think just having a permanent GM would solve this better.

[Immenseman]

I personally think just having a permanent GM would solve this better.

Yeah I agree. An AGM (Forum) would kinda defeat the point of a FM imo.

[Seatherny]

Yeah I agree. An AGM (Forum) would kinda defeat the point of a FM imo.

Hmm true as AGM (Forum) won't really have much to do.

Sammeth. for GM then. The quicker the better. I can't see any other current AGM's better suited for the job. No point waiting for nvrspk4 to make his mind up. Why did he go on leave anyway? Does anyone know?

[Yoshimitsui]

In regards to activity from administrators i thought i would give you some info on my behalf. It used to be that i posted a fair bit and i like to keep up to date on whats going down in the feedback and mainly general section. However, many of these threads and the dramatic ones have an outstanding amount of pages and posts and for me to come in half way through or at another points is hard to understand all the practicalities of the points made and read through the whole situation.

It happens to many of us when we get older that time simply disappears on us and we have many outside commitments whilst also coping to get the jobs done we are here for. In order to do my required duties online, it has to fit around my lifestyle and by the time i have done them it's time to be getting on with whatever else needs doing. Some would say well it's time to give it up but there is so many variables as to whether that's a good option or not if you can just manage.
I like to be able to browse around the forums have a chat and get involved but along with the time some thing's really don't interest me and you have to take in the different levels of humour and behaviour, some things appeal more to others than what it may have done a few years back, age changes us.

You also have to take in that there are many different personalities and so doing the job i do fit's with how i am as opposed to someone who is community based for example.

[hah]

brandon for GM

[Chippiewill]

brandon for GM

This. Epicness.





















Sammeth. is good too...

[AgnesIO]

Regarding the post approval system, since I posted the original idea, after it has been in place for over a year, I will post what I feel the pros and cons are.

Pros:
Cuts down on spam.
Cuts down on porn being placed on the forum.

Cons:
It may put new members off signing up.
It IS a pain for a new member, I know this after I made an account to try it and in all honesty, I tried when it was 15. I gave up at about 7 :P

So I do think the cons are pretty bad, so yes I also think it could be removed.

---

On the other hand I am a fan of forcing users to sign up if they say look at 10 threads. I have signed up to clubhabbo before (well on numerous email addresses), as I wanted to continue looking at thread.

[Seatherny]

Regarding the post approval system, since I posted the original idea, after it has been in place for over a year, I will post what I feel the pros and cons are.

Pros:
Cuts down on spam.
Cuts down on porn being placed on the forum.

Cons:
It may put new members off signing up.
It IS a pain for a new member, I know this after I made an account to try it and in all honesty, I tried when it was 15. I gave up at about 7 :P

So I do think the cons are pretty bad, so yes I also think it could be removed.

---

On the other hand I am a fan of forcing users to sign up if they say look at 10 threads. I have signed up to clubhabbo before (well on numerous email addresses), as I wanted to continue looking at thread.
Believe me, I know from experience, limiting thread view is the worst idea ever unless the forum offers unique things.

[Inseriousity.]

Regarding the post approval system, since I posted the original idea, after it has been in place for over a year, I will post what I feel the pros and cons are.

Pros:
Cuts down on spam.
Cuts down on porn being placed on the forum.

Cons:
It may put new members off signing up.
It IS a pain for a new member, I know this after I made an account to try it and in all honesty, I tried when it was 15. I gave up at about 7 :P

So I do think the cons are pretty bad, so yes I also think it could be removed.

---

On the other hand I am a fan of forcing users to sign up if they say look at 10 threads. I have signed up to clubhabbo before (well on numerous email addresses), as I wanted to continue looking at thread.

that's a plus? I mean yes it is :eusa_whis oj!

I don't agree with forcing people to sign up. They will register if they see something they want. I'm stubborn and refuse to log in when that message comes up in clubhabbo... mind you, that's cos I've forgot my password as well

[hah]

clubhabbo forced me to sign up and i love their forum, glad i signed up

i think their comps are great

[AgnesIO]

that's a plus? I mean yes it is :eusa_whis oj!

I don't agree with forcing people to sign up. They will register if they see something they want. I'm stubborn and refuse to log in when that message comes up in clubhabbo... mind you, that's cos I've forgot my password as well

I normally refuse, but sometimes you just HAVE to have a go at someone :P

I guess we should try anything to get more users./

[Martin]

The amount of Guests we get is actually very good compared to some other forums. I think we just need to make some things different, and find ways to lure them to sign up- We need unique things that perhaps other forums don't offer. It's clear the userbase is there (as guests), they just need to become members of the community.

I agree with the removal of the post aproval scheme. This will get members directly involved into the community more quickly.

I don't think the "view so many threads before signing up" thing would be good, as this won't neccassary mean they actually start posting. It's the first idea of changing out "guests" into members that needs to be worked upon.

[AgnesIO]

I think some advertisements on the rare values pages of the sites for the sales forums.

There are normally always guests looking threough those forums inpaticular, so maybe a ad saying 'Buy and Sell your furniture - in just one simple registration'

[Immenseman]

We compare the two forums HxF and CHF on the forcing to sign up thing. Like Graham I wouldn't have signed up if I could just browse and now I have 1800 posts and am a frequent user. However, saying that CHF has more of a pull factor than HxF. I know myself, Geraint, Graham, Leah, Abbie, GommeInc, Saurav, Culturist who were (some still are) very active HxF users and now/did use CHF. GommeInc and Saurav only signed up recently due to how poor HxF is performing. Things are better organised, better community, better competitions, better debates (lol), better management, management actually play habbo thus know what their users want etc.

[FlyingJesus]

We compare the two forums HxF and CHF on the forcing to sign up thing. Like Graham I wouldn't have signed up if I could just browse and now I have 1800 posts and am a frequent user. However, saying that CHF has more of a pull factor than HxF. I know myself, Geraint, Graham, Leah, Abbie, GommeInc, Saurav, Culturist who were (some still are) very active HxF users and now/did use CHF. GommeInc and Saurav only signed up recently due to how poor HxF is performing. Things are better organised, better community, better competitions, better debates (lol), better management, management actually play habbo thus know what their users want etc.

I believe it works for them because the "pull" as you put it is in the community for them - people go there as guests from other forums like this one because something's kicking off there or some other such social reason, whereas our biggest influx of guests are direct from Habbo and more interested in rare values and Habbo news than interacting with the members here and getting involved. Here I can't see it working as members =/= an increase in active posting, as can be seen by how many people sign up and never post or do so very rarely.

[Seatherny]

We compare the two forums HxF and CHF on the forcing to sign up thing. Like Graham I wouldn't have signed up if I could just browse and now I have 1800 posts and am a frequent user. However, saying that CHF has more of a pull factor than HxF. I know myself, Geraint, Graham, Leah, Abbie, GommeInc, Saurav, Culturist who were (some still are) very active HxF users and now/did use CHF. GommeInc and Saurav only signed up recently due to how poor HxF is performing. Things are better organised, better community, better competitions, better debates (lol), better management, management actually play habbo thus know what their users want etc.

I signed up when it first started and was the Forum Manager ;) but my account got lost "/

[hah]

fire all comps staff and let me take over u wud need to give me a big inbox cus so many people would enter

[Chippiewill]

Perhaps there should be an unforced registration page which pops up every 35 page views and then you can just click 'No I do not want to register' and then you can go for another 35 posts.

[Immenseman]

I believe it works for them because the "pull" as you put it is in the community for them - people go there as guests from other forums like this one because something's kicking off there or some other such social reason, whereas our biggest influx of guests are direct from Habbo and more interested in rare values and Habbo news than interacting with the members here and getting involved. Here I can't see it working as members =/= an increase in active posting, as can be seen by how many people sign up and never post or do so very rarely.

I don't really get what you mean. Their biggest influx of guests are direct from Habbo too however they're forced to sign up. I know getting members isn't the issue, it's making them stay. Maybe they'd stay more if they had an account, therefore an identity.

Just a side thought. Would it be possible for members in there first three months to move up the rep system easier. Maybe how it used to be like 200 for a new rep power, maybe that'd make people stay. I know people don't stay for their rep power but at least they won't feel so useless idk.


I signed up when it first started and was the Forum Manager ;) but my account got lost "/

I know!! I just saw your thread when you signed up the other day :8

[Seatherny]

I first found out about habboxforum.com through Habbox. They always used to advertise the "News forum" on the Habbo News part of habbox.com

When I registered, I had little clue on how forum worked. Slowly, I started off using the habbo news section and posting habbo news. Then I started making avatars and asking people to make them for me, so I used that section too.

Then when I became a moderator, I moved slowly to the General section. I was bullied as a moderator by the then-older members, and that made me want to leave. I think if you bully new members, they just dont want to stay. Then Baving made me stay.

And now I used all sections of this forum.

Thats my story.

[Immenseman]

fire all comps staff and let me take over u wud need to give me a big inbox cus so many people would enter
no you have opinions, you are not staff material. nah, in all seriousness if they actually employed some people who use the forum daily (all 9 of us) and actually know the forum well and play habbo and can easily make things interesting then that'd be a good move, they'd never swallow their pride and allow people who would actually be good at roles but would oppose management to be staff.

it's common knowledge to active users that we don't get on but i'm not 14 and i know you'd make them fun and i'd even probably enter.

Perhaps there should be an unforced registration page which pops up every 35 page views and then you can just click 'No I do not want to register' and then you can go for another 35 posts.

If that can be done it sounds like the best idea ever imo. +rep if i can.

[Seatherny]

Here is a comparison between Habbox Competitions and CHF competitions:

http://i47.tinypic.com/34fnuit.jpg

I am sorry, but that story is just so long and I don't see many of the members bothering to read that. And the T&C is longer than the T&C for my mobile contract.
The competition is so boring too "/

And then we have CHF ...

http://i47.tinypic.com/2mpah5k.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/jq3s6r.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2gvrfjc.jpg

They seem to do comeptitions every day and several a day. All interesting, short, simple and with no huge T&C.

If Habbox did those competitions everyday, I would enter most of them.

Management need to tell this to the current Competition department, or hire a new one. I would happily do a competition such as above everyday.

[hah]

I told comps to sticky the terms and conditions so the dont have to post them in every thread, use images and better comps........... oh thats happeneing in the new year they said :rolleyes:

doubt it






HIRE ME AS COMPS FIRE EVERYONE ELSE OK
GRAHAM FOR COMPS

[Seatherny]

I told comps to sticky the terms and conditions so the dont have to post them in every thread, use images and better comps........... oh thats happeneing in the new year they said :rolleyes:

doubt it

the font colour is awful
and the length of the thread just put me off from even reading it

while CHF have short ones, simple ones.

[Immenseman]

look at how fantastic and organised ch debates are in comparison to ones on here -.-

[Seatherny]

I am sorry, but how the hell do they expect members to read this:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=617096

Its huge.

Seems to have used every colour available and I think the competitions department have competitions on who can create the longest thread ...

[hah]

look at how fantastic and organised ch debates are in comparison to ones on here -.-

Thing is, clubhabbo ones are probably not organized. Unlike Habbox they plan them out and they are **** and come with with some stupid grinch story line.. like *** :S:S:S

[Immenseman]

lol effort or what. habbox comps are too serious, i love mike and all but we don't wna read t&cs we want smaller, better but mainly funner forum comps, the prize doesn't even have to be good. yeah graham it's kinda like a government and they think they have to put t&cs to make people happy and be ultra organised and what not when they rly don't. ch is more spontaneous and people have a laugh. not just about comps but pretty much all aspects

[Seatherny]

Just do a competition everyday:

heres an example...


Right, 2 hours to PM me the answer to these 5 riddles:
1
2
3
4
5

Prize: 100 rep

I dont understand why forum staff don't wanna give out rep "/ :S

[hah]

cause they are antifun

expect mods everyone loves them

[Immenseman]

they think rep is really precious and it's not fair on those who have earned it and built it up over years but like i'm 5/6th or whatevz so pretty high and i'd love for other peeps to be given rep. it'll make them enter and make peeps stay on the forum too.

[Hecktix]

Just do a competition everyday:

heres an example...



I dont understand why forum staff don't wanna give out rep "/ :S

We've suggested rep competitions quite a few times but so often get the response "it devalues the point of a reputation system"

[Seatherny]

I would love to know how many people have entered this competition which ends today:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=617096

Would the Competition Department please tell us how many people have entered the last 5 competitions?

[FlyingJesus]

Lovin' Riceling 2k10

Saurav you're forgetting comps is getting better "next month" - or so Sam told me when I said events and comps ought to be merged so they actually do something in September

[hah]

lower the rep things then........

i have like 2 rep power and im on clubhabbo 3weeks


I would love to know how many people have entered this competition which ends today:

http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=617096

Would the Competition Department please tell us how many people have entered the last 5 competitions?



2 people LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

just look at the entrys under it

[Inseriousity.]

Perhaps there should be an unforced registration page which pops up every 35 page views and then you can just click 'No I do not want to register' and then you can go for another 35 posts.

I like this compromise, not forcing them to join but still reminding them that the option is there.


Here is a comparison between Habbox Competitions and CHF competitions:

http://i47.tinypic.com/34fnuit.jpg

I am sorry, but that story is just so long and I don't see many of the members bothering to read that. And the T&C is longer than the T&C for my mobile contract.
The competition is so boring too "/

And then we have CHF ...

http://i47.tinypic.com/2mpah5k.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/jq3s6r.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2gvrfjc.jpg

They seem to do comeptitions every day and several a day. All interesting, short, simple and with no huge T&C.

If Habbox did those competitions everyday, I would enter most of them.

Management need to tell this to the current Competition department, or hire a new one. I would happily do a competition such as above everyday.

As silicone suggested below, we are gonna move the t+c into a stickied thread. We are moving into smaller competitions with simple ideas behind them. If you don't like the stories involved, that's fine but I rather like them. While CH competitions are good, we don't want to be a carbon copy. As for the font colours, we tend to go for the colours that are readable on the default forum but I can read that perfectly fine so I haven't got a problem with that either.


I told comps to sticky the terms and conditions so the dont have to post them in every thread, use images and better comps........... oh thats happeneing in the new year they said :rolleyes:

doubt it

Even though you and Jake have critisized the management for not taking decisive action and leaving things til 'next month', I think in this situation it's fine. Competitions have ended for this month and so it's more logicial to leave any changes until the following 'calendar' of comps.



I think the competitions department have competitions on who can create the longest thread ...

Damn you caught us.


lol effort or what. habbox comps are too serious, i love mike and all but we don't wna read t&cs we want smaller, better but mainly funner forum comps, the prize doesn't even have to be good.

ly2. We are moving towards smaller competitions but I think it's unwise to expect instanteous results. These things take time to perfect.

[Seatherny]

Lovin' Riceling 2k10

Saurav you're forgetting comps is getting better "next month" - or so Sam told me when I said events and comps ought to be merged so they actually do something in September

That's what I don't understand. Why do they need to wait till next month to create better competitions? :S :S :S




2 people LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

just look at the entrys under it

Oh my, the entries are public too?? They need to do it so the user has to PM them. Especially for creative stories one.
How have the department lasted so long with such poor performance?


We've suggested rep competitions quite a few times but so often get the response "it devalues the point of a reputation system"

Hence the forum is going downhill. They take everything so damn seriously. They need to understand that they finally have competition. Before Habbox dominated the fansites. Now CHF seems to have more active members. I can understand that there is a limit to how much Donor / VIP they can give out for free, but rep .. come on.

[hah]

im not allowed to become comps staff cause there is no room :'(

Clubhabbo have like 1-5 comps a day????? why cant Habbox do this they are over for the month......... thats stupid

you post a comp sit back and wait a few days for it to finnsh

doesnt seem like hard work to me and i doubt you need as many staff as you have

[Seatherny]

im not allowed to become comps staff cause there is no room :'(

Clubhabbo have like 1-5 comps a day????? why cant Habbox do this they are over for the month......... thats stupid

you post a comp sit back and wait a few days for it to finnsh

doesnt seem like hard work to me and i doubt you need as many staff as you have

how many staff do they have
I think 2 is enough. they dont need huge stories. very simple competitions is good enough.

[hah]

how many staff do they have
I think 2 is enough. they dont need huge stories. very simple competitions is good enough.

6-7...
more than ch but **** comps :S:S
and less comps

[Chippiewill]

I just came up with an awesome idea and it would fix some problems with the rep system, although it would be an un-automatic process. I present to you "Reputation prestiging"!.

The idea is that when you get to 1000 rep or whatever, you post in a thread and you ask to be 'prestiged' your rep is reset and then you get a special power which only VIPs would normally have e.g. see who repped you, then you could have varying levels of Prestige for REP, that way the older members wouldn't have quite so insane reputation powers (If they prestiged), when you reach the highest rep prestige then you could have special 'REP VIP' or something.

[Seatherny]

I just came up with an awesome idea and it would fix some problems with the rep system, although it would be an un-automatic process. I present to you "Reputation prestiging"!.

The idea is that when you get to 1000 rep or whatever, you post in a thread and you ask to be 'prestiged' your rep is reset and then you get a special power which only VIPs would normally have e.g. see who repped you, then you could have varying levels of Prestige for REP, that way the older members wouldn't have quite so insane reputation powers (If they prestiged), when you reach the highest rep prestige then you could have special 'REP VIP' or something.

I can see what you mean but I don't personally like the idea. Because currently your features upgrade based on your post count.

[hah]

I just came up with an awesome idea and it would fix some problems with the rep system, although it would be an un-automatic process. I present to you "Reputation prestiging"!.

The idea is that when you get to 1000 rep or whatever, you post in a thread and you ask to be 'prestiged' your rep is reset and then you get a special power which only VIPs would normally have e.g. see who repped you, then you could have varying levels of Prestige for REP, that way the older members wouldn't have quite so insane reputation powers (If they prestiged), when you reach the highest rep prestige then you could have special 'REP VIP' or something.

abit like ranks then.......?

[FlyingJesus]

2 people LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

just look at the entrys under it

3 and I'm blates gonna win now


That's what I don't understand. Why do they need to wait till next month to create better competitions? :S :S :S

Because all they've done for the past couple of years is have a team that's far too big who literally come up with 20 ideas all at once, write them in a staff subforum and then pick one out of a hat every couple of weeks and do bugger all else, so they have a backlog of old comps to get through. At least that's how I imagine it to be, I can't think of any other reason they do such little work


how many staff do they have
I think 2 is enough. they dont need huge stories. very simple competitions is good enough.

1 is enough for just moving a thread idea into the comps forum tbh lol

[Chippiewill]

abit like ranks then.......?
Ranks for quality posts

[Seatherny]

3 and I'm blates gonna win now



Because all they've done for the past couple of years is have a team that's far too big who literally come up with 20 ideas all at once, write them in a staff subforum and then pick one out of a hat every couple of weeks and do bugger all else, so they have a backlog of old comps to get through. At least that's how I imagine it to be, I can't think of any other reason they do such little work



1 is enough for just moving a thread idea into the comps forum tbh lol

1 is enough, but if one is away or something, the second can carry on. Always better to have 2 people coming up with ideas.

[hah]

i think everyone is in agreement that i should be comps staff yeah? me too

[Chippiewill]

1 is enough, but if one is away or something, the second can carry on. Always better to have 2 people coming up with ideas.

Also you need someone for AM and someone for PM

[StefanWolves]

I believe I was the person who suggested in the older thread that forums should be merged as there were way to many and it made the forum look even more dead than it actually is.

[hah]

Also you need someone for AM and someone for PM

why? post a comp in the moring and come back to post one in the evenings?

or else just one a day.....

[Sammeth.]

Perhaps there should be an unforced registration page which pops up every 35 page views and then you can just click 'No I do not want to register' and then you can go for another 35 posts.

I like this idea a lot. It would be way better than doing that gay other one, and better than nothing at all.

[Robbie]

I like this idea a lot. It would be way better than doing that gay other one, and better than nothing at all.

Sammeth hatin' on the gays again :@

Yeah good idea chip diddy chip

[Seatherny]

I believe I was the person who suggested in the older thread that forums should be merged as there were way to many and it made the forum look even more dead than it actually is.

Has been suggested several times over the year ;) But never properly discussed till I made the thread suggesting what should be merged etc.

[StefanWolves]

I like this idea a lot. It would be way better than doing that gay other one, and better than nothing at all.
Must admit that idea is much better than the one I suggested, never thought of it that way. :O

[Immenseman]

Is that way possible though, like could it be added and what not?

[StefanWolves]

Yeah you should be able to do it.

[Robbie]

I'd imagine it would be a simple mod to the exisiting plugin, make it 35 views and add a link. It's whether Jin will install it though, we don't have much cos of security

[StefanWolves]

35? why no 25? :P

[FlyingJesus]

It's whether Jin will ever come online though, we don't ever see him now

Init tho

[Robbie]

35? why no 25? :P

whatever :P

[Chippiewill]

I believe a little JS and some cookies could do it without to much trouble and with security (Since JS IS client side)

[Immenseman]

look at how fantastic and organised ch debates are in comparison to ones on here -.-


Thing is, clubhabbo ones are probably not organized. Unlike Habbox they plan them out and they are **** and come with with some stupid grinch story line.. like *** :S:S:S
CH official debate posted tonight, 150+ replies already. Majority of them constructive. How many has the official HxF one had after the week or so it has been open... lol

[Robbie]

slightly off topic jake but do you know why im banned off chf when ive nt been on it for about 8month

[Immenseman]

LOL whats ur user

[Robbie]

im ip banned lol :S

[Immenseman]

oh lol tell me one of your names and i'll find out

[Robbie]

:Robbie

[Immenseman]

kk will pm ya later

[hah]

its cause our debate was about

******* CASUAL SEX!!!!!!!!!!! ? LIKE ***

[Immenseman]

if i did that on chf i'll put a tenner i'll get more interest same debate and same opening post

[Seatherny]

if i did that on chf i'll put a tenner i'll get more interest same debate and same opening post

Yeah because a certain RVR staff wouldn't turn every debate into politics and UKIP on CHF.

[Immenseman]

LMAOOOOOOOO or because they have double active users

[Seatherny]

I love the debates and replying to news articles on here, but when the guy goes on and on and on and on and on about UKIP and how the current goverment cant do anything right, and then the guy contradicts himself 60 times and then makes excuses, I get bored and lose interest.

[Immenseman]

lol i can't read the posts in that forum on here, they literally make me angry because it's the same old bloody story.

[Seatherny]

lol i can't read the posts in that forum on here, they literally make me angry because it's the same old bloody story.

I want increased security at airports, but I don't want them to search grannies.

Ok make your mind up please.

[Sammeth.]

yeah I know right, undertakers posts do annoy me a lot (when debating, the three that dont mention ukip are alright) but he has every right to post them at the end of the day. Which can be frustrating but in threads which allow and encourage debate they are more th an welcome.

[Immenseman]

all parties are the same but ukip are so much better.

[Jordy]

I love the debates and replying to news articles on here, but when the guy goes on and on and on and on and on about UKIP and how the current goverment cant do anything right, and then the guy contradicts himself 60 times and then makes excuses, I get bored and lose interest.Likewise, as well as yourself and Immenseman, I know I'm not the only one who has lost interest in there as of recent.

I agree with most his views but I am just absolutely sick to death of every post in every thread blaming the EU. There will then be the inevitable comparisons to communism and fascism, followed by praise for UKIP and Thatcher being brought into it.

It's the same old story, same old discussions etc, I'm bored of it.

[Seatherny]

Likewise, as well as yourself and Immenseman, I know I'm not the only one who has lost interest in there as of recent.

I agree with most his views but I am just absolutely sick to death of every post in every thread blaming the EU. There will then be the inevitable comparisons to communism and fascism, followed by praise for UKIP and Thatcher being brought into it.

It's the same old story, same old discussions etc, I'm bored of it.

Its also quite shocking how he is able to turn every discussion (and at one point every discussion was turned into a UKIP one) into UKIP. So instead of actually discussing the OP's post, the debate turns to UKIP.

We understand he loves politics, but seriously, it gets annoying after a while.

[Immenseman]

Me and Jordy have decided he has templates due to the similarity of his posts which he just edits to make them relevant to the new topic.

[Jordy]

Its also quite shocking how he is able to turn every discussion (and at one point every discussion was turned into a UKIP one) into UKIP. So instead of actually discussing the OP's post, the debate turns to UKIP.

We understand he loves politics, but seriously, it gets annoying after a while.Indeed, you don't have to look far into the section to see what we're on about. There's a thread about Tesco removing a christmas card, 15 posts into it and there's a mention of UKIP.

I think some sort off topic rulings need to come into place as quite frankly it's putting people off the section, which used to be one of the more popular forums.

[Seatherny]

Me and Jordy have decided he has templates due to the similarity of his posts which he just edits to make them relevant to the new topic.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Blinger$]

3. Admit it when you are wrong - If you ban someone, don't unban them when its not right and then say it was due to a "mistake".

Done most of the time to be honest.


Thats not true.
I was trying to tell Garion that I did not buy VIP to avoid a ban (how ******ed must one be to do that?) and he says this

You will not be unbanned, particularly now after you attempted to use a VIP subscription to avoid a ban.
He insisted that I bought it and when I did prove him wrong (numerous times) he said "WELL IT STILL IS VALID!1"

Also, maybe get staff who actually reply to PMs...

[AgnesIO]

Thats not true.
I was trying to tell Garion that I did not buy VIP to avoid a ban (how ******ed must one be to do that?) and he says this
He insisted that I bought it and when I did prove him wrong (numerous times) he said "WELL IT STILL IS VALID!1"

Also, maybe get staff who actually reply to PMs...

You must be unlucky.

I always get replies from staff when I PM.

[xxMATTGxx]

Thats not true.
I was trying to tell Garion that I did not buy VIP to avoid a ban (how ******ed must one be to do that?) and he says this
He insisted that I bought it and when I did prove him wrong (numerous times) he said "WELL IT STILL IS VALID!1"

Also, maybe get staff who actually reply to PMs...

I remember that case regarding your account being unbanned due to some VIP thing. I forgot the outcome of it, I will have to check my chat logs.

Edit: I can only find it was down due to VIP. But either way your account had to be re-banned due to it.

[hah]

Just get rid of that subforum about Tabloids and move all into one and rename it

Gossip and Current affairs or something..........

id like to see him turn Katy prices wild night out into a ukip discussion

[Seatherny]

Just get rid of that subforum about Tabloids and move all into one and rename it

Gossip and Current affairs or something..........

id like to see him turn Katy prices wild night out into a ukip discussion

Oh he can. Believe me. Will start talking about TV, turn it to what should be on TV and what not, then whats morally right or wrong, then UKIP.

[Sammeth.]

entirely credible topic unrelated to politics -----> everyone has nice discussion about it -----> -:Undertaker:- makes his first post -----> most people stop posting in the thread ------> UKIP is the prominent topic now -----> no one can get a word in edgeways.

[hah]

last week he managed to turn a Habbox Rare Value disscussion thread into a thread about The Govererment and the Uk Currency

[Immenseman]

lol i love dan though, he's just too passionate and frustrating.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah because a certain RVR staff wouldn't turn every debate into politics and UKIP on CHF.

I don't bring UKIP up, its infact yourself who brings it up. We talk about something like the BNP or immigration, and then somebody calls UKIP racist and it goes from there. If people are going to make comments and statements about things in a debate then they will need to be prepared to back it up with their own thought and opinion.


I love the debates and replying to news articles on here, but when the guy goes on and on and on and on and on about UKIP and how the current goverment cant do anything right, and then the guy contradicts himself 60 times and then makes excuses, I get bored and lose interest.

Yes, and I think if when you are talking about the country the government is pretty involved would you not think so? - I don't agree with what this government does hence why I mention it. On condraticting, I haven't contradicated anything I have said at all.

You get bored because you run out of things to say.


Likewise, as well as yourself and Immenseman, I know I'm not the only one who has lost interest in there as of recent.

I agree with most his views but I am just absolutely sick to death of every post in every thread blaming the EU. There will then be the inevitable comparisons to communism and fascism, followed by praise for UKIP and Thatcher being brought into it.

It's the same old story, same old discussions etc, I'm bored of it.

On MSN you even agreed that most things are central to the EU, which they are. In politics, if you expect a debate on justice, finance, crime and punishment, international politics then the EU will be brought into it - and why? - because something that makes over 84% of your laws cannot be ignored.

Bored of it? - post a different topic then.


Its also quite shocking how he is able to turn every discussion (and at one point every discussion was turned into a UKIP one) into UKIP. So instead of actually discussing the OP's post, the debate turns to UKIP.

We understand he loves politics, but seriously, it gets annoying after a while.

Actually it is you who brings UKIP into it, such as in the BNP thread it turned from a discussion about the holocaust and the BNP to UKIP, and the only reason UKIP is ever brought into it is to try and get one 'over me' because when Sergio and me where arguing about freedom of speech in that thread, UKIP made it into it and what do you know? - yourself and others start naming UKIP racist when Sergio provides points which nobody seems to be able to reply to properly.


last week he managed to turn a Habbox Rare Value disscussion thread into a thread about The Govererment and the Uk Currency

last week you managed to make a boring discussion on rare values into an even more boring discussion

[hah]

god he even done it to this thread

[Immenseman]

omg dan these are the exact posts we are talking about

[FlyingJesus]

Next he'll give an opinion and call it fact

[Immenseman]

what a crazy fool :rolleyes:

[Jordy]

On MSN you even agreed that most things are central to the EU, which they are. In politics, if you expect a debate on justice, finance, crime and punishment, international politics then the EU will be brought into it - and why? - because something that makes over 84% of your laws cannot be ignored.I don't like the EU, but I don't like it being brought up in every thread either. I'm afraid the EU does not need to be brought into everything, pick up any newspaper (Excluding the Daily Mail) and you'll see that they don't bring the EU into it. You indirectly link the EU to everything and it simply doesn't need to be done.

Even in the Chinese Execution thread which someone got an EU debate going, I managed to make a reply without mentioning the EU. You quote it and begin talking about the EU. I understand you didn't bring it up originally, but once the EU had died down in the discussion you bring it back, all your references and example are some how something to do with the EU.

I could create a thread on how some Chavs burnt a teddy bear and soon enough we would be debating why Gordon Brown didn't allow us a referendum on the EU.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't like the EU, but I don't like it being brought up in every thread either. I'm afraid the EU does not need to be brought into everything, pick up any newspaper (Excluding the Daily Mail) and you'll see that they don't bring the EU into it. You indirectly link the EU to everything and it simply doesn't need to be done.

Even in the Chinese Execution thread which someone got an EU debate going, I managed to make a reply without mentioning the EU. You quote it and begin talking about the EU. I understand you didn't bring it up originally, but once the EU had died down in the discussion you bring it back, all your references and example are some how something to do with the EU.

I could create a thread on how some Chavs burnt a teddy bear and soon enough we would be debating why Gordon Brown didn't allow us a referendum on the EU.

We were talking about referendums, you went directly on to referendums so I used the example of how the Minister for Europe Caroline Flint did not read a treaty yet told us, the public, that we did not understand it despite the fact she hadn't read it herself.

There are no other examples of which I can point to when debating the need for a referendum on an issue, because Europe is the only topic which the main parties have ever said they would hold a referendum over, and by using that point and the example of how we were lied to - I showed how a referendum on the death penalty would be just and fair, and would represent what the people think on the issue of crime, punishment and justice.

[Sammeth.]

All I know is Gordon Brown for GM...

Edit: Seriously though please dont turn this into a thread about politics. This is seriously here to help improve habbox, and no matter what you say to justify politcal posts, its just not welcome and not needed. No offense, but keep it where its at least relatable.

[Jordy]

We were talking about referendums, you went directly on to referendums so I used the example of how the Minister for Europe Caroline Flint did not read a treaty yet told us, the public, that we did not understand it despite the fact she hadn't read it herself.

There are no other examples of which I can point to when debating the need for a referendum on an issue, because Europe is the only topic which the main parties have ever said they would hold a referendum over, and by using that point and the example of how we were lied to - I showed how a referendum on the death penalty would be just and fair, and would represent what the people think on the issue of crime, punishment and justice.You posted about referendums first, not me. If you preach then myself and other members are forced to retaliate which is totally legitimate. It's the people bringing the things up who are causing the problems.

And that's just one example of how all your examples some how include the EU, there is more but I suspect this thread is going to turn into another debate between the forum and yourself, which is precisely what this thread is about so it's probably best we stop :P

[hah]

omgggggggggggggggg take it to news or something

[-:Undertaker:-]

All I know is Gordon Brown for GM...

Edit: Seriously though please dont turn this into a thread about politics. This is seriously here to help improve habbox, and no matter what you say to justify politcal posts, its just not welcome and not needed. No offense, but keep it where its at least relatable.

I agree, but when people are going to talk behind someones back (with 2 pages full of it) i'll reply, below is all I have left to say anyway.


You posted about referendums first, not me. If you preach then myself and other members are forced to retaliate which is totally legitimate. It's the people bringing the things up who are causing the problems.

And that's just one example of how all your examples some how include the EU, there is more but I suspect this thread is going to turn into another debate between the forum and yourself, which is precisely what this thread is about so it's probably best we stop :P

..and then I replied with evidence about how politicians have ignored what people wanted in the past, as you said, in retaliation to your post. That is how a debate works.

[Sammeth.]

Okay, we'll leave it at that, moving swiftly on.

[Jordy]

I think HabboxForum should be divided up like a certain group of nations. The sections could all be member states with democratically elected leaders. These leaders of individual sections select a leader to have overall control of HabboxForum. The overall leader of HabboxForum creates 84% of the rules in all of the sections which make up HabboxForum. They will also ban people donating dollars and sterling to HxF, all payments will need to be made using the trusty 'Euro'.

I can't see anybody opposing that.

[hah]

we should hold a referendum on it just in case

[Sammeth.]

Either that or just give up this whole political crap that isnt helping anyone at all in the slightest. I dont want to have to close a perfectly good thread just because its overridden with political undertones and people wanting to prove a point, when this is supposed to be beneficial to habbox.

[Hecktix]

Either that or just give up this whole political crap that isnt helping anyone at all in the slightest. I dont want to have to close a perfectly good thread just because its overridden with political undertones and people wanting to prove a point, when this is supposed to be beneficial to habbox.

I agree with this.

Back to discussing reputation?

[Immenseman]

Either that or just give up this whole political crap that isnt helping anyone at all in the slightest. I dont want to have to close a perfectly good thread just because its overridden with political undertones and people wanting to prove a point, when this is supposed to be beneficial to habbox.
Well well well, it's Stalin himself.

Rep:
1 year
3500 posts
400 points

bit easier not too easy

[Middlesbrough]

Increasing everyones rep power is bound to cause inflation. And we all know about inflation due to the government letting all the banks go out of control and there you have the credit crunch. We don't want our very own reputation recession going on. But then again that's the problem with a capitalist reputation system, we could look for alternatives like socialism. Everyone has exactly the same rep power maybe? Didn't work for North Korea mind you, they have one of the lowest GDPs in the world.

The inflation could also mirror the rapid inflation Nazi Germany suffered during WWII because of all the quantitive easing, mind you that's going on under Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe right now.

We need to learn from history when reforming the reputation system.

[Hecktix]

Well well well, it's Stalin himself.

Rep:
1 year
3500 posts
400 points

bit easier not too easy

Liking that, it's quite contrasing to Garion's suggestion of:

1 year
1500 posts
500 points

I can't decide whether it'd be more beneficial to have the post count higher or the points higher.

In fact I just decided, it'd be more beneficial to have the post count lower, as it means it's more likely people will post to get their rep power up as the goal is more likely. I mean atm, I'm on 3400 posts and it's still AGES for me to get to 5000 to get my next rep power, and geez i've been here for 3 years on this account (okay fair enough I wasnt around for 1 and a half of them), but still, what's that thought like for a new member!

[AgnesIO]

5000 posts for one rep point is stupid.

My idea would be:

3000 posts - 1 rep point
1 year - 1 rep point
400 rep - 1 rep point

I mean if I posted 20000 times in a year got no rep then I would have like 1 rep for it?

Yet if I posted 4999 times I would get nothing.

[Robbie]

Increasing everyones rep power is bound to cause inflation. And we all know about inflation due to the government letting all the banks go out of control and there you have the credit crunch. We don't want our very own reputation recession going on. But then again that's the problem with a capitalist reputation system, we could look for alternatives like socialism. Everyone has exactly the same rep power maybe? Didn't work for North Korea mind you, they have one of the lowest GDPs in the world.

The inflation could also mirror the rapid inflation Nazi Germany suffered during WWII because of all the quantitive easing, mind you that's going on under Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe right now.

We need to learn from history when reforming the reputation system.

You've got socialism and communism mixed up

[AgnesIO]

Increasing everyones rep power is bound to cause inflation. And we all know about inflation due to the government letting all the banks go out of control and there you have the credit crunch. We don't want our very own reputation recession going on. But then again that's the problem with a capitalist reputation system, we could look for alternatives like socialism. Everyone has exactly the same rep power maybe? Didn't work for North Korea mind you, they have one of the lowest GDPs in the world.

The inflation could also mirror the rapid inflation Nazi Germany suffered during WWII because of all the quantitive easing, mind you that's going on under Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe right now.

We need to learn from history when reforming the reputation system.

Habboxforum
Real Life
Habbox Forum
Real Life

Beloieve it or not guys, two different things.

[Hecktix]

Habboxforum
Real Life
Habbox Forum
Real Life

Beloieve it or not guys, two different things.

omg don't lie to me? :'(



On topic; I do think making people's rep powers increase more frequently will make newer members feel more adequate.

[AgnesIO]

omg don't lie to me? :'(



On topic; I do think making people's rep powers increase more frequently will make newer members feel more adequate.

I just want a higher rep lool.

And I am sorry Oli, sometimes the truth must be told :(

Btw I LOVE YOUR SIG!

[Hecktix]

I just want a higher rep lool.

And I am sorry Oli, sometimes the truth must be told :(

Btw I LOVE YOUR SIG!

fnx xo

but hxf is real life, i swear :( it got da news n everythin?

I think the person who set it at 5000 posts was a bit mental tbh, owait, wasn't it ---MAD---?

[AgnesIO]

fnx xo

but hxf is real life, i swear :( it got da news n everythin?

I think the person who set it at 5000 posts was a bit mental tbh, owait, wasn't it ---MAD---?

Just LOL if it was :P

5,000 posts is ridiculous though.

Just checked, only 124 members have over 5,000..

[Recursion]

NVM, WRONG THREAD LOL

[Seatherny]

Erm thread is over a month old, so closed as it was bumped.