Too hard to become established on the forum?

[Immenseman]

There are no active threads at the moment which are still discussing ways on how we can keep our newer members. The best way is to wonder why they're leaving and I think it's because they struggle to establish themselves on the forum. By establish I mean getting post counts, getting noticed, getting staff, getting treated like older members and earning reputation.

Post count
Won't spend too long on this. We know the issue here and it has been discussed. Scrap the post approval. Also, I believe you should reverse the decision to discontinue post count in the forum games section. Sure they're not adding anything to the forum but if people want to get their post count up in an easy manner then I don't see the issue. I know I used to participate to try and increase my post count. I still post in forum games now and they're still quite active but maybe they'd be more active if post count went up in there. New members would be able to use as a way to get their count up and therefore have an improved identity. Older members wouldn't criticise them for doing this and once they've got a decent post count they won't be viewed as a "noob" anyway :rolleyes:

Getting staff
I don't know the facts on this but I would imagine that an older more experienced member would be given the role over a new user regardless of their application. Maybe managers should try and ensure they employ some new users. I've noticed that only HxL seems to employ really new users with low post count. Some of the most valued members have low rep and post count.

Noticed
Everybody likes to be noticed. I know for a fact people don't post new ideas in here because people will flame them because they're not an established member as I have been asked by a few people to post things in here for them. Unfortunately, if someone new was to post something in here it wouldn't be taken as serious if someone like MissAlice did regardless of how good their respective ideas were. I know I +REP all new users who post in this forum. If management acknowledged this issue and posted an announcement telling all users that they're having a problem with keeping new members so want all members to be involved I guarantee that people who want to appear really good forum members will take it upon themselves to make everyone feel welcome as they believe they'll be favoured.

Reputation
Again, I know people don't use this forum and stay on this forum for reputation but I know I didn't like it when I had 1 power and people around me had 15+, it makes you feel inferior. Maybe scrap the system altogether. Or would it be possible for new members to have a different set up with regards to reputation. I think it's 600 points needed for a new power, that's not easy to get to. So many members are stuck on the 1-3 rep power. Maybe if they were a bronze member of whatever they should only need 200 points to go up a new power.

Anyway, just a few ideas on how to tackle the issue. I know they're all pretty minor but I reckon if all of them were implemented together (if possible) then there would be an improvement, even if only minor.

Of course there have been many other ideas such as creating a group for them all to join and what not.

[hah]

Most of the DJS only sign up to the forum because its how you apply to become a dj and thats why they dont post they arent really deacated......look at clubhabbos djs 1000+ posts for most if them

but no point really posting this cause jess never replys here or posts anywhere in the forum

and rep ye lol i manged to get like 400 points in 3months but got banned

id rather my rep points go up than the bars......
too hard to get rep points

[Alkaz]

I have noticed some of the things you said there Jake, I think its really good that Jess and Melissa hire new people to Habbo/Habbox and I know that alot of the time not all are successful but its given them a chance and there are still lots of good DJ's that come out of it. I agree what you said about valued staff, Roxy has 900odd posts, Faboosh around 350.

I think that favourtism to certain people has become more fair over the past year or so but it certainly does go on still and not just posting things in forums such as this, with staff too. Before you could almost 100% predict who would become staff when apps were open.

Also with rep I dont think many people have liked it since it was shaken up whenever it was. It would be better if it was something like an achievement on Habbo, the lower the level the easier it is to get a new level. It could be something like 100rep per rep power then go something like: 150 - 250 - 400 - 600 etc. I can remember on my old account becoming proud when ever I went up a rep rank i.e. Alkaz has much to be proud of. It took me like 2 years to get 4800 rep points, but I worked hard for it and was extremely proud and there wasnt many people that had rep powers like that on the forum.

There could be alot of changes which could drastically change the forum and make it better for existing and then new members.

[Seatherny]

Don't scrap the reputation system. When I joined, I tried my very best to get more rep bars and that made me want to post more to get the bars higher and rep power higher.

[hah]

Don't scrap the reputation system. When I joined, I tried my very best to get more rep bars and that made me want to post more to get the bars higher and rep power higher.

i think he is suggesting that you lower the levels so that its easier to get

[Alkaz]

At the minute you have to get 600rep per rep power, thats a LOT for a new user and it takes like a year or something now as barely no one reps others. Its disheartening and offputting because thats what most still like to do.

[Immenseman]

I know it won't be scrapped but it might as well be seeing as it's virtually impossible to get many more. I only ever see first page but I'm basically the only person since the change that gets reputation frequently. Imagine starting today, you'd never get 7k rep like I do and obviously people like Neversoft have much more than this :) That will never happen with the current system.

[Sammeth.]

I think the main problem with the reputation system is the strict limitations on it. I think if anything the limits should be reverted back to how they were, if not a little bit stricter, but just not to the level they are now.

For the other three points, I don't think any of them are that integral to why we aren't retaining newer members. I think for someone to feel inferior, people with higher post count and higher rep count must act superior around them. Maybe the problem lies with people reading too much into post count and rep count. It something that shouldnt be heavily focused on, nor should it really reflect social status. I think maybe it goes to peoples heads sometimes. As a new member though I wouldn't really look at post count and feel dismayed, I would feel I would want to contribute more to try and build on that.

In terms of hiring staff I dont think that people getting hired has any direct correlation as to whether the applicants are newer or not. I think its more to do with the fact that people with more post count and more rep power tend to be more established and know a bit more about how Habbox works. A brand new member applying might not have that knowledge. Its not that managers look at their post count or see they're an older member and think "Oh they'll be better" its just they genuinely have a better application down to their knowledge of the departments, something that newer members gain as they become more involved. HxL tend to hire newer members simply because most of the applicants are listeners and aspiring djs and know what they need to do, regardless of being previous members on the forum.

They're very good points well made but Im just not sure how much effect they actually have on their (new members) standing within the forum.

[FlyingJesus]

Getting staff
I don't know the facts on this but I would imagine that an older more experienced member would be given the role over a new user regardless of their application. Maybe managers should try and ensure they employ some new users. I've noticed that only HxL seems to employ really new users with low post count. Some of the most valued members have low rep and post count.

Sounds like the awful equality laws for employment to me - if you have to fill a quota of new/unknown people then you're bound to have to skip over a few people who would actually be decent at the job. Older and more experienced members are more likely to get jobs because they are older and more experienced, it's like the difference between hiring and apprentice who's been in the field for years or someone who's just left school looking for their first ever bit of work. Would you want to give the next person who randomly signs up mod powers without knowing anything about them?


Reputation
Again, I know people don't use this forum and stay on this forum for reputation but I know I didn't like it when I had 1 power and people around me had 15+, it makes you feel inferior. Maybe scrap the system altogether. Or would it be possible for new members to have a different set up with regards to reputation. I think it's 600 points needed for a new power, that's not easy to get to. So many members are stuck on the 1-3 rep power. Maybe if they were a bronze member of whatever they should only need 200 points to go up a new power.

Rep (like awards, which we've still heard nothing of as those who can actually implement them are AWOL) is something people can view as an achievement, like some do with post count and obviously anything else that you can count in your favour, so I would say fixing rather than scrapping it is the way to go. I agree entirely with changing the requirements down in rep because currently it's so hard to get a decent amount that it's rendered almost useless, although not entirely obviously or it would never be an issue. Perhaps as you've said for lower levels less rep points are needed - perhaps 200 for the first 3 rep power, 400 for the next 5 and then 600 from that point on or something along those lines. It would benefit everyone that way I think, as if all rep powers take a small jump then obviously there is more rep to go around, and so it can be gained easier and for the first few levels not be such an impossible accomplishment.

[Immenseman]

I think the main problem with the reputation system is the strict limitations on it. I think if anything the limits should be reverted back to how they were, if not a little bit stricter, but just not to the level they are now.

For the other three points, I don't think any of them are that integral to why we aren't retaining newer members. I think for someone to feel inferior, people with higher post count and higher rep count must act superior around them. Maybe the problem lies with people reading too much into post count and rep count. It something that shouldnt be heavily focused on, nor should it really reflect social status. I think maybe it goes to peoples heads sometimes. As a new member though I wouldn't really look at post count and feel dismayed, I would feel I would want to contribute more to try and build on that.

In terms of hiring staff I dont think that people getting hired has any direct correlation as to whether the applicants are newer or not. I think its more to do with the fact that people with more post count and more rep power tend to be more established and know a bit more about how Habbox works. A brand new member applying might not have that knowledge. Its not that managers look at their post count or see they're an older member and think "Oh they'll be better" its just they genuinely have a better application down to their knowledge of the departments, something that newer members gain as they become more involved. HxL tend to hire newer members simply because most of the applicants are listeners and aspiring djs and know what they need to do, regardless of being previous members on the forum.

They're very good points well made but Im just not sure how much effect they actually have on their (new members) standing within the forum.

Yeah, I'm aware they are very minor issues but I thought they were worth raising to gauge opinions from others. With the inferior point, that is why the reputation system was changed, new members were constantly complaining how they felt victimised when they were -repped with people who had 40+ rep power, like they used to. This is why I mentioned it. I know that the change was with ---MAD--- and that I was the only AGM who opposed the proposal therefore nvr must've agreed to it so it might be hard to change the reputation system seeing as he's GM, even if he's away.

[Sammeth.]

I reckon then that the rep limits should be reverted to how they were, and we be more stringent with enforcing rules regarding abuse of the reputation system. If people genuinely feel victimised then thats what the report rep thread is for etc. We shouldn't be tarring everyone with the same brush by enforcing stricter rep limits, rather punishing those who are directly affecting it.

[Immenseman]

If we changed it back to what it was. Say me, Tom, Harry and Marc all +repped somebody they would go up a power, near enough. That's 4 people who have the power to basically determine an individuals rep power. I imagine mine would be like 30/40 odd, some would have over 50, I think and it only used to be 200 points. It needs altering but not to what it was.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah, I'm aware they are very minor issues but I thought they were worth raising to gauge opinions from others. With the inferior point, that is why the reputation system was changed, new members were constantly complaining how they felt victimised when they were -repped with people who had 40+ rep power, like they used to. This is why I mentioned it. I know that the change was with ---MAD--- and that I was the only AGM who opposed the proposal therefore nvr must've agreed to it so it might be hard to change the reputation system seeing as he's GM, even if he's away.

Frankly it worked both ways, the KKK often brought up newer or unknown members who we liked to prominence just by repping them up a bit and thus making new bigger characters on the forum. Similarly, we (along with many others especially in spam) could make a clear display of those we didn't like or who acted up - a case of user moderation, which is essentially what the rep system is meant to be anyway. The less this forum has allowed its society to act as a society, the more it's been abandoned by those who like to actually interact with people online... as in people who like forums.

[Alkaz]

Before the rep changes, for some reason or another I felt that Nick- attacked me for some reason, he removed 600 rep points of mine and said they were all pointless and that it was the second largest amount he had ever removed. He went back through all 4800 rep points I had at the time. Now I dont remember him ever doing that to anyone else apart from jesus, if it was done more often then it would mean people only repping for the real reasons.

[Sammeth.]

Well a little bit stricter but nowhere near as strict as what it is now, as I said in my post before the last one I made where I said something different.

[dogboy123]

I think one problem is that older users go around smug and like they're everything. Then say a new user posts a graphics, they will say back oh thats ****. That's no way to keep members.

Or if someones made a new room on habbo, someone comes along, again thats ****, that only makes the userfeel small and minor.

[FlyingJesus]

No point telling someone that a neon recolouring of an HC badge done with only the fill tool on paint is a work of art though. All good work gets praised as far as I see, it's only stuff that IS crap that gets called it unless one of the pixel artists has fallen out with another

[Alkaz]

Ben from what I remember, when people got into the 50s with rep power my rep power was 28 and people admired it and apart from in the KKK thread no one really boasted about their large rep powers anywere else apart from there. Else were on the forum people just did their best to get there powers up as high as they could.

[Immenseman]

Being smug is a personality trait, you can't say just old members are. People have the illusion people are snobby and act inferior on here to make others wary of them. It's who they are. There are new and old members like that. You just recognise the older members doing it which proves my point of those poor noobs not being noticed :'(

[Alkaz]

You just recognise the older members doing it which proves my point of those poor noobs not being noticed :'(
They just got a mention, must be being noticed now :P

[FlyingJesus]

No it's only because we get bullied irl obv ;|

[Immenseman]

Duh, if you have personality on this forum then you're a bully victim.

[xXiShadowXx]

Getting staff
I don't know the facts on this but I would imagine that an older more experienced member would be given the role over a new user regardless of their application. Maybe managers should try and ensure they employ some new users. I've noticed that only HxL seems to employ really new users with low post count. Some of the most valued members have low rep and post count.

Don't really agree with this.

Take myself for example, I'm not really known in the community, I think most departments judge it on the app rather than their popularity amongst the forum.

[HotelUser]

I agree with you about hiring new faces. When we opened HxHD applications we found some new faces who turned out to be absolutely brilliant staffmembers. Unfortunately one of the downsides to recs is that the user does have to be well established to be noticed:P

[AgnesIO]

I agree with rep.

I don't even know how many rep you need to get a rep point or how the heck Ihave 4 rep points.

Cough help cough lol.

[hah]

Cause you here about 2 years so thats 2 and then all the vip u got

[buttons]

no he'll have 2 rep for the 2 years (another rep on his join date)
and one rep for his 5,000 posts.
then he'll get another when he gets 600 rep

[AgnesIO]

Cause you here about 2 years so thats 2 and then all the vip u got


Almost 3 years actually :P

But that doesn't equate to how rep points work? I generally have no idea how rep points work, or how many rep you need for one point etc,

[Titch]

I agree with the rep thing, when i first came to this forum it was one of the first things i really tryed to get up, (as jake knows frm me harrasing him several times demanding the rep he owed me ;D ) when they changed the system is just made me hate rep completely and now i rep 1 odd person a week if that? where as before i was using my rep limit each day as a new member.

[Meree.]

Most of the DJS only sign up to the forum because its how you apply to become a dj and thats why they dont post they arent really deacated......look at clubhabbos djs 1000+ posts for most if them

but no point really posting this cause jess never replys here or posts anywhere in the forum

and rep ye lol i manged to get like 400 points in 3months but got banned

id rather my rep points go up than the bars......
too hard to get rep points

Pretty true, alot of the DJs sign up because you have to to become a DJ. Jess does post alot but always in the staff section.

[Black_Apalachi]

I'm not sure how much difference it would make to activate post counts in just that forum in particular. I don't pay attention to what forums have post count and what don't and I doubt new members would even think about the difference.

The getting staff and being noticed ideas make sense but they are down to the management.

The only thing I would alter about reputation (and I've said this time and time again) is the spread limit. As it stands, the reputation system does not provide a reliable indication of somebody's actual reputation around the forum (especially new members). This is because if a very good member regularly makes posts you think deserve positive reputation, there is no chance of you being able to award it for each of that person's good posts. Not to mention with the "dying community", there are even less opportunities to spread the rep to be allowed to rep the same person again.

This isn't an important point, but I was also wondering if more rep blocks should be added instead of stopping at the current maximum. It's just because earning rep blocks are the same as the excitement, if you like, of earning rep points and rep powers. But when I realised my rep blocks were already the same as people like Jake's, I was kind of like 'oh :/'. It's just with such a huge gap in rep/posts between people like me and people like Jake, you wouldn't expect the rep blocks to be the same, is all.

[joshuar]

For someone in my situation who rarely reps, I find myself unable to rep posts because I haven't repped 30 people since I last repped that person (and it was probably a year since I last repped them).

I said it when they were introduced that the limits need to be more than before, but not as high as they stand. It is hard to become established round here, I think the management need to start making changes, rather than just talking about them. This has been an issue for a while and the only change i'm aware of is the Post Approval count dropping (I could well be wrong, and if I am, sorry!), and that needs to go now. It's almost a punishment before they've even posted that they have to wait for approval.

[Seatherny]

Forum needs major changes and quick, not discuss it for ages in the top secret admin forum and then say "next month"

[Titch]

Forum needs major changes and quick, not discuss it for ages in the top secret admin forum and then say "next month"

Well for the moment i doubt much will be done, the server has decided it doesnt like MattGarners and a smods ips and wont let them on, so he cant even got on LOL, so doubt anythink will happen str8 away.

[Sammeth.]

Innit it would be a big help if Jin logs on (fingers crossed)

Edit: Im just too good.

[GommeInc]

Rep system could be replaced with a "like" function, if a post is good you just "like" it. The system is fine the way it is though, and of course you will feel inferior when you're inferior, it's how the rep power system works, as with post counts :P

[Jamesy]

Rep system could be replaced with a "like" function, if a post is good you just "like" it. The system is fine the way it is though, and of course you will feel inferior when you're inferior, it's how the rep power system works, as with post counts :P

I am really for a post-thanks system like this. Reputation is so private, even under the rules it is private. Public signs of thanks always makes people feel better and will encourage people to make better posts if they see that they are publicly acknowledged for it :).

[Sammeth.]

I am really for a post-thanks system like this. Reputation is so private, even under the rules it is private. Public signs of thanks always makes people feel better and will encourage people to make better posts if they see that they are publicly acknowledged for it :).
public signs of thanks or appreciation can surely be posts?

[Hecktix]

public signs of thanks or appreciation can surely be posts?
I agree with Sam.

I think the rep system is fine, it just needs tweaking (I made a thread a while back but it didn't get well recieved)

[Jin]

Post count
Won't solve the problem, those who feel elite due to their high post will continue to "play" the forum games. Which will mean their post count will be pointlessly and undeservedly 30k+ whilst the "new" users will have 3k which is will still belittle the new members because of course they dont have a post count in the tens or whatever.

Getting staff
I would say the opposite the application is what will win you your position however generally speaking it is fair to assume the older more experienced forum user will also submit a better application.

Noticed
?

Reputation
Maybe a complete scrapping of the reputation system is not a bad idea or reducing all rep power down to 1 permanently.

[Seatherny]

Reputation
Maybe a complete scrapping of the reputation system is not a bad idea or reducing all rep power down to 1 permanently.

No no no. Just change a few settings. Don't do a forum wide fixed reputation power and don't scrap it either.

[Black_Apalachi]

Hmm, even though I don't like it, I can't actually think of reason against permanently resetting all rep powers to 1 :eusa_thin.

If a post-thanks system was introduced, would everyone start at 0 or would we get some immediately based on current rep points?

[Alkaz]

Before it was changed it was only really management that seemed to have a problem with it. Why not just change it back to something similar to how it used to be and please the users of the forum.

[Seatherny]

Hmm, even though I don't like it, I can't actually think of reason against permanently resetting all rep powers to 1 :eusa_thin.

If a post-thanks system was introduced, would everyone start at 0 or would we get some immediately based on current rep points?

The fact that resetting it all back to 1 permanently defeats the point of rep. People wouldn't care anymore about rep as every rep will only increase their rep point by 1, and it would also mean no one would care anymore as the rep power will never increase.

Post-thanks system is crap too. I can see everyone just thanking every post. And it would start at 0.

[Black_Apalachi]

The fact that resetting it all back to 1 permanently defeats the point of rep. People wouldn't care anymore about rep as every rep will only increase their rep point by 1, and it would also mean no one would care anymore as the rep power will never increase.

Post-thanks system is crap too. I can see everyone just thanking every post. And it would start at 0.

Well if it was all reset to 1, I think the amount of rep points would need to appear with the rest of your details in the top corner of posts so there is something to show for the rep you have.

And I sort of agree with your point on the post-thanks because I registered to a forum the other day because I needed some tech help with something. Anyway they have a system like that and I ended up clicking thanks on every reply to my thread because it doesn't make sense to say 'Thanks for your help' without clicking it does it. Besides, they could still put restrictions on it like the current situation, so we'd just be back at square one anyway.

[Seatherny]

Well if it was all reset to 1, I think the amount of rep points would need to appear with the rest of your details in the top corner of posts so there is something to show for the rep you have.

And I sort of agree with your point on the post-thanks because I registered to a forum the other day because I needed some tech help with something. Anyway they have a system like that and I ended up clicking thanks on every reply to my thread because it doesn't make sense to say 'Thanks for your help' without clicking it does it. Besides, they could still put restrictions on it like the current situation, so we'd just be back at square one anyway.

Not only that, post-thanks looks ugly. Its just not needed. I like posting more in order to try and get a higher rep power, resetting it to 1 permanently would be just "/
Just tweak the settings, put it back to what it was. Who cares if a few people have like 50 rep power.

[Immenseman]

Post count
Won't solve the problem, those who feel elite due to their high post will continue to "play" the forum games. Which will mean their post count will be pointlessly and undeservedly 30k+ whilst the "new" users will have 3k which is will still belittle the new members because of course they dont have a post count in the tens or whatever.

Getting staff
I would say the opposite the application is what will win you your position however generally speaking it is fair to assume the older more experienced forum user will also submit a better application.

Noticed
?

Reputation
Maybe a complete scrapping of the reputation system is not a bad idea or reducing all rep power down to 1 permanently.

Scrapping the system will give people even less incentive. Why does it bother you if people have 30k posts if it lets new users get to 3k rather than the 30 they get before they quit. Conservatism isn't going to make things better. You know much more than me, you're the owner. The staff bit was a silly idea and I do agree with what people are saying about that. People stay with forums once they have an identity and people know who they are, it's an online forum people who are trying to find their feet on the forum would be much happier if they were able to get reputation easier and posts easier. As it is most of them quit before there posts stop having to be approved anyway.

[Neversoft]

I don't agree that reputation be abolished, but do agree that it should be made easier to get for newer users and those with lower rep power and the amount of points to the next rep power should increase as you get more. I also agree with Sammeth that the limitations concerning reputation are way too strict and need to be lowered for people to start using the system more frequently. How many people do you have to rep before you can rep the same person again? Like thirty? The amount of times I've wanted to rep someone but can't is just stupid.

I don't really think there are any problems concerning post count. I find a good few threads to post in each day, and could easily get one hundred posts a day if I wanted. If people want to increase their post count faster they could always post in any of the what are you listening to/watching/eating/etc threads.

[Hecktix]

Current Rep Power System:

+1 Rep power every:


365 days registered
600 rep points
5000 posts

It's either 30 or 50 people you must rep before repping the same member again.

New members are gonna take a year or more to get 600 rep points, which is absurd really.

[Seatherny]

5000 posts?

Make it:

+1 Rep power every:

365 days registered (as an anniversary gift)
250 rep points
2000 posts

[Alkaz]

It is, before the system changed it was easy for people to get 600+ points in a month. Thats obviously why the system changed but from 1 month to 12+ months is just absurd.

As Gupta said, 250 would be good, even 300!

[Sammeth.]

I would say from the current system I would change the spread limit from 50 to 30 then:

+1 Rep power every
365 days registered
400 rep points
2000 posts

[Seatherny]

I would say from the current system I would change the spread limit from 50 to 30 then:

+1 Rep power every
365 days registered
400 rep points
2000 posts

That sounds good.

[Immenseman]

I would say from the current system I would change the spread limit from 50 to 30 then:

+1 Rep power every
365 days registered
400 rep points
2000 posts


That sounds good.
seems good to me

[Callum.]

I don't think there's much wrong with getting staff. Although I've seen most radio DJs, event organisers and competition staff be quite new to the forum they are probably the only ones who apply. A lot of the users who have been here quite a while no longer play habbo, so old users applying for such jobs doesn't happen from what I've seen. I applied for mod a couple of times, got declined which could be of many reasons, lost out to newer accounts so I guess staff is primarily down to the application.

[Immenseman]

yeah what i meant was that make departments so they had to hire new members like one every time apps opened but i realised it was a **** idea so yeah.

[Martin]

I don't think there's much wrong with getting staff. Although I've seen most radio DJs, event organisers and competition staff be quite new to the forum they are probably the only ones who apply. A lot of the users who have been here quite a while no longer play habbo, so old users applying for such jobs doesn't happen from what I've seen. I applied for mod a couple of times, got declined which could be of many reasons, lost out to newer accounts so I guess staff is primarily down to the application.


The last time News Applications opened we received a VERY large amount of applications from new members who had specifically signed up to apply for the position. :D

[Seatherny]

I don't think there's much wrong with getting staff. Although I've seen most radio DJs, event organisers and competition staff be quite new to the forum they are probably the only ones who apply. A lot of the users who have been here quite a while no longer play habbo, so old users applying for such jobs doesn't happen from what I've seen. I applied for mod a couple of times, got declined which could be of many reasons, lost out to newer accounts so I guess staff is primarily down to the application.

I believe they look at recommendations too when hiring Moderators.

[Jordy]

Hmm I've just had an idea... go along with Jin's idea of everyone having one rep power and then reset the rep system every 6 months so everyone is zeroed. It could be done on January 1st and July 1st every year.

It would give everyone a fair opportunity. To reward people for their efforts, give the top 10 people with the most reputation points at the end of the 6 month cycle, 6 months worth of special "Reputation edition VIP".

It means people won't get enormous reputations, if they do it doesn't matter as they're reset every 6 months. It still continues to reward people who make quality posts, and the best thing is it gives an incentive for people to make quality posts seeing as they could win a pretty decent prize.

[Callum.]

Think the idea is terrible. Rep has always been a big part of the forum bring much discussion, demolishing everything & it's roots is bad.

[Blinger$]

If you want to be established just write XOXOXOOXooxoxoo after everypost.

[Seatherny]

Hmm I've just had an idea... go along with Jin's idea of everyone having one rep power and then reset the rep system every 6 months so everyone is zeroed. It could be done on January 1st and July 1st every year.

It would give everyone a fair opportunity. To reward people for their efforts, give the top 10 people with the most reputation points at the end of the 6 month cycle, 6 months worth of special "Reputation edition VIP".

It means people won't get enormous reputations, if they do it doesn't matter as they're reset every 6 months. It still continues to reward people who make quality posts, and the best thing is it gives an incentive for people to make quality posts seeing as they could win a pretty decent prize.

Rep will never be reset to zero as some people bought rep when it was available to buy.
Also, I dont think its possible to reset everyone's rep points to 0 every 6 months.


If you want to be established just write XOXOXOOXooxoxoo after everypost.

I think you just established yourself on the forum.

[Blinger$]

I think you just established yourself on the forum.
sad part is that it works. :love3::love3::love3::love7::love7::love7:

[Seatherny]

sad part is that it works. :love3::love3::love3::love7::love7::love7:

But not in a good way in your case.

[Blinger$]

I don't care if it works in a good or bad way for me.. it still works, if you want to get popular just put a whole heap of those faggy pictures up.

[Seatherny]

I believe most members wants to be recognised in a good way.

[Blinger$]

Yep, just write **** like "JAKE XOXOXOXO" or "JEN :love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7:: love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::l ove7::love7::love7::love7:"

:)

[buttons]

Yep, just write **** like "JAKE XOXOXOXO" or "JEN :love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7:: love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::love7::l ove7::love7::love7::love7:"

:)
explain plz

[Blinger$]

sorry, i don't know many people by their first names on here (i just know that you are jen) :)

[Titch]

I would say from the current system I would change the spread limit from 50 to 30 then:

+1 Rep power every
365 days registered
400 rep points
2000 posts

I is liking this idea :)

[TheEclipse]

Hi. I'm a new member myself, but I'm also a forum owner (see link below).
I have had some problems with this sort of thing too in the past.

Here are some things I think can help.

You have lots of mods and admin- One of the mod jobs should be to think of some new thread topics, ones that would encourage discussion, and post them, as much as possible and particularly on the days when they are no new threads. This encourages people because they see the forums are active, and any threads they make will be likely to be seen/get a response. It's psychological.

If you're allowed to, occasionally send out bulk emails to habbox forum members. If possible, make it a system where they tick a box to say that they do not/do want emails, when they sign up then you won't get in trouble for spamming.

Get a twitter account. Mods and admin can post a link to new and interesting threads. Perhaps share the password amongst yourselves, or maybe one person can take on the responsibility. This will get you more attention, and more guests, and more members coming back, aware of some new awesome thread.

[Seatherny]

Habbox already have a twitter account. Mass emails could work, just a small reminder of competitions, new things ever 6 months.

[TheEclipse]

Oh really? The forum has a twitter account, not just Habbox?

[Seatherny]

Probably for Habbox, but 1 is enough as it covers all news. Its only for development news. Not really needed for sites such as Habbox.

[xxMATTGxx]

I think there is two twitter accounts actually. Because I follow one that Jin controls and the other one seems to be automated when events are occurring and so on, but it doesn't work very well because it tweets after the events have finished.

[TheEclipse]

I just searched for 'habbox' on twitter. I found one, but it only is about DJ stuff and free things. And there are only 240 followers. I really think you need to make your links to twitter more prominent- I had no idea it existed. Can you get a link to it somewhere that's not in a thread, somewhere on the sidebars etc?
Also, I think you need to tweet at least one thread that's just talk about something. Pick the best one.
Because it's off topic conversations that make communities really good.

[Seatherny]

I think there is two twitter accounts actually. Because I follow one that Jin controls and the other one seems to be automated when events are occurring and so on, but it doesn't work very well because it tweets after the events have finished.

tweets after events have finished? thats erm useless lol.

[xxMATTGxx]

tweets after events have finished? thats erm useless lol.

Just noticed that it tweets a 12pm event @ 4:14am in the morning. Bit early? LOL.

[Nixt]

In regard to reputation I would like to take a far more lenient stance.

Currently:

- 5000 posts
- 600 reputation points
- 365 days (1 year) registered on the forum

for each rep power. You have to rep 50 people before you rep the same person again, quite frankly that's ridiculous.

My Suggestion:

- 1500 posts
- 400 reputation points
- 365 days registered

Reputation spread would be reduced to 20 members. 50, and even 30 is ridiculously high.

[Seatherny]

Yeah I was thinking 30 is too high too. 20 sounds good.

[Black_Apalachi]

In regard to reputation I would like to take a far more lenient stance.

Currently:

- 5000 posts
- 600 reputation points
- 365 days (1 year) registered on the forum

for each rep power. You have to rep 50 people before you rep the same person again, quite frankly that's ridiculous.

My Suggestion:

- 1500 posts
- 500 reputation points
- 365 days registered

Reputation spread would be reduced to 20 members. 50, and even 30 is ridiculously high.

I don't have a clue what to suggest for the figures but I was thinking the bold as well.

[Chippiewill]

I don't have a clue what to suggest for the figures but I was thinking the bold as well.

Same, it's hard to find anyone in the technology section who I can give rep to at the moment.

[TheEclipse]

I honestly don't think the reputation points are your biggest problem here.

[xxMATTGxx]

In regard to reputation I would like to take a far more lenient stance.

Currently:

- 5000 posts
- 600 reputation points
- 365 days (1 year) registered on the forum

for each rep power. You have to rep 50 people before you rep the same person again, quite frankly that's ridiculous.

My Suggestion:

- 1500 posts
- 400 reputation points
- 365 days registered

Reputation spread would be reduced to 20 members. 50, and even 30 is ridiculously high.

I like your suggestion, the current one does seem a bit high. 50 members before repping the same person again, jesus!

[Nixt]

I changed amount of rep points needed to 400, too (in my post, not properly on the forum... again I don't have the necessary permissions). 20 is definitely better, maybe even 15. I mean people don't even rep that often...

[Black_Apalachi]

I honestly don't think the reputation points are your biggest problem here.

It's one of them.


I changed amount of rep points needed to 400, too (in my post, not properly on the forum... again I don't have the necessary permissions). 20 is definitely better, maybe even 15. I mean people don't even rep that often...

Exactly, there's so few rep being given and then there's even fewer people that you want to give rep to. And in my case at least, it's always the same people who deserve the rep.

I think the high restriction is the cause for lack of repping because people used to give pointless reps to spread, with a comment like 'random rep' but now people don't even bother doing that (I haven't had one for probably a year). They've just given up repping very much at all.

[Chippiewill]

Actually, in regards to amount of rep needed per rep power and posts needed per rep power should not be changed, otherwise we end up with the problem before.

[Seatherny]

They used to rep a lot a few years ago so 30 wasnt too bad then. Now I have tried to rep so many people for good posts but it says I need to spread "/

[Nixt]

Actually, in regards to amount of rep needed per rep power and posts needed per rep power should not be changed, otherwise we end up with the problem before.

The problem we had is that we went from one extreme to the other - people had like 30 rep power or something ridiculous (more than that I am sure) and it was far too easy to get rep. It then went to virtually impossible. I think somewhere in between is the best bet, the changes that have been suggested are quite realistic - they are not at all easy to gain lots of reputation as it was before but it doesn't make it possible whereas now it's basically a pointless system. The changes before merely reinforced the gap between those members of a high reputation and those with a lower reputation.

[Chippiewill]

I just checked and the only people in this thread whom I can actually +rep are the bronze members (Woo I'm 'Rankist') and MattGarner (Because I obviously despise him :P)

[GommeInc]

The Reputation System is only a blithering mess because someone thought it wise to give out rep points to donators/VIPs, and it didn't help that MAD over-ruled the decision by the Habbox Council when a wise choice of change was put forward to change the reputation system to make it simpler and easier for everyone, including new members.

Ideally, you could just change the rep system to only include years - 1 year = 1 rep power, but of course make it easier for newer members, by giving them an easier chance to get 1 rep power in a matter of months. It would stop this whole pointless posting and forum games discussion, then you just find a solution to how to "show off" how much rep points you've gathered. The Rep System isn't one of vBulletins smart ideas to be fair :P

[Smits]

Regarding rep power:

The powers are so low on this forum meaning it's incredibly hard to go up a level. I think it used to be alot more at one point, but it went down.

I like the idea of bigger rep powers, one forum i visit has people with rep powers in the thousands, and others with just 1. It takes 1-2k to get the power up by one, so it isn't easy, but it's more fun.

[Sammeth.]

I changed amount of rep points needed to 400, too (in my post, not properly on the forum... again I don't have the necessary permissions). 20 is definitely better, maybe even 15. I mean people don't even rep that often...

I don't think 30 is too high at all. 50, granted, is stupidly high. It was 20 last time, and 20 I think too low. 15 is definitely pushing it too far I think.

[Black_Apalachi]

Regarding rep power:

The powers are so low on this forum meaning it's incredibly hard to go up a level. I think it used to be alot more at one point, but it went down.

I like the idea of bigger rep powers, one forum i visit has people with rep powers in the thousands, and others with just 1. It takes 1-2k to get the power up by one, so it isn't easy, but it's more fun.

Super-high rep powers wouldn't be practical on a forum like this though because as soon as you make an enemy (which happens all the time, and people gang up on people etc), you'd be ****** lol. I imagine that's why everyone's rep was halved a while back.

[GommeInc]

I don't think 30 is too high at all. 50, granted, is stupidly high. It was 20 last time, and 20 I think too low. 15 is definitely pushing it too far I think.
Can it not be date/time configured? Say for the people who rarely rep, you can next rep said member in a few weeks? Seems better than the current system, which is unfair while a time configured system won't be.

[Chippiewill]

I imagine that's why everyone's rep was halved a while back.

No, people were repping each other within secret circles, they could get to higher rep powers within a matter of hours.

[Nixt]

I don't think 30 is too high at all. 50, granted, is stupidly high. It was 20 last time, and 20 I think too low. 15 is definitely pushing it too far I think.

Okay maybe not 15 then, but I think 20 / 25 is adequate. 30 is just a bit too high I believe, because I don't think people give reputation enough and having it at like 30 just puts people off even bothering.

[Titch]

Super-high rep powers wouldn't be practical on a forum like this though because as soon as you make an enemy (which happens all the time, and people gang up on people etc), you'd be ****** lol. I imagine that's why everyone's rep was halved a while back.

No, it would be practical long as it was moderated propaly

[Nixt]

No, it would be practical long as it was moderated propaly

Not really. Guarantee I could go through your posts and find plenty I could -rep fairly. Could do with anyone. If people's rep powers are like 1000 that would just be a nightmare.

[GommeInc]

Super long rep points and super short ones make no difference really, the only difference is number, the power isn't any different :P I can't think of the right word, but if we added a 0 onto the end of the system, that's the answer, everyone will still have an easier (or hard time) with the rep system, it's just more specific (151 instead of 15) for example.

[Sammeth.]

Can it not be date/time configured? Say for the people who rarely rep, you can next rep said member in a few weeks? Seems better than the current system, which is unfair while a time configured system won't be.

I think that would be a better way of managing it, however I'm not really sure if it's possible.


Okay maybe not 15 then, but I think 20 / 25 is adequate. 30 is just a bit too high I believe, because I don't think people give reputation enough and having it at like 30 just puts people off even bothering.

But we're looking at it how the current system is. People stopped using the reputation system as much when the new limits were enforced, so who's to say how many people will start using it more often if the limits are reduced. I would be able to handle 25 I guess, but we have to remember what's practical and best for a well functioning system.

[Black_Apalachi]

No, it would be practical long as it was moderated propaly


Not really. Guarantee I could go through your posts and find plenty I could -rep fairly. Could do with anyone. If people's rep powers are like 1000 that would just be a nightmare.

Yeah and I imagine Brandon would need an extra pair of hands :P.

[Titch]

I know this is off topic but just quickly wanted to mention it.

Its so nice to see ALL levels and areas of management, staff and normal members voicing their own opinion on something for once rather than all just copying what another higher figure has said! This is how it should be! :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Okay maybe not 15 then, but I think 20 / 25 is adequate. 30 is just a bit too high I believe, because I don't think people give reputation enough and having it at like 30 just puts people off even bothering.


I think 15 is to low, 20 kinda getting there. 25 = could be ideal but if anything 30 is good enough. Anything above 30 is just getting to close to the original 50 mark.

[Black_Apalachi]

I would go for 20 max.

[TheEclipse]

And not repping members who make useful suggestions just because they're Bronze members could be part of what's wrong with the forum. 'too hard to become established' is a major problem for keeping forums alive, and though I realise you need to work out your rep issues, I do hope you're going to look at the other issues too. :)

[e5]

rep needs sorting.

[Sammeth.]

rep needs sorting.
I think you're onto something there.

[Robbie]

rep needs sorting.

Fgs why did nobody mention this before ;l

[Black_Apalachi]

I think you're onto something there.

GUESS WHAT. +REP!!!

[Smits]

Super-high rep powers wouldn't be practical on a forum like this though because as soon as you make an enemy (which happens all the time, and people gang up on people etc), you'd be ****** lol. I imagine that's why everyone's rep was halved a while back.

Yeah thats a valid point, i don't think super high would be the right way, but higher could be.

[luce]

I know what you mean about the post count because i posted like mad to get mine up to a level where people would listen. Rep power i don't pay attention to really it is only something i use to reward people (lol) if they have helped me find something or make a good point. I have started using it more recently and i know most people do a rep return just so people keep giving which i don't have a problem with. I've been on the forum like 3 years and only have 5 from vip rep and posts.

I think the post approval should at least be lowered because 15 is alot for people who don't really know what they are doing.

On hiring people with low post counts i know events and habboxlive are both very good at this because when i was management and had to decided they weren't even looked at until they were pm'd telling them they had the job!

One acceptation to this is mod i think because they have to know the forum and prove to be well behaved and know what they're doing :)

[hah]

In regard to reputation I would like to take a far more lenient stance.

Currently:

- 5000 posts
- 600 reputation points
- 365 days (1 year) registered on the forum

for each rep power. You have to rep 50 people before you rep the same person again, quite frankly that's ridiculous.

My Suggestion:

- 1500 posts
- 400 reputation points
- 365 days registered

Reputation spread would be reduced to 20 members. 50, and even 30 is ridiculously high.


I like Garions idea but every Six Months, not every year.. a year is too long

[Hecktix]

My Suggestion:

- 1500 posts
- 400 reputation points
- 365 days registered

Reputation spread would be reduced to 20 members. 50, and even 30 is ridiculously high.

I agree with this :)
This would make people post more.

[hah]

a year is toooooo much ............. its like 4 weeks in ch lol

[Nixt]

a year is toooooo much ............. its like 4 weeks in ch lol

6 months then, perhaps? That's probably be as low as I am willing to go.

[Chippiewill]

6 months then, perhaps? That's probably be as low as I am willing to go.

9 Months, otherwise we'll have the entire year of 2004 with the ability to remove other people's rep power.

[Immenseman]

No, it should certainly stay as a year. That shouldn't be moved. It's rewarding to old members, not just anybody. You don't want to forget them either. They fought for this forum and would be disgraced to see such a change :'( sorry not undertaker lol...

Nah but serious I think it should stay as a year.

[e5]

6 months then, perhaps? That's probably be as low as I am willing to go.
I was going to say 6 months :)
I also think, that rep powers should go up quicker, instead of the blocks.

[Black_Apalachi]

I was going to say 6 months :)
I also think, that rep powers should go up quicker, instead of the blocks.

I think there should be a few more blocks, or make them all go bright green or something.

[Hecktix]

No, it should certainly stay as a year. That shouldn't be moved. It's rewarding to old members, not just anybody. You don't want to forget them either. They fought for this forum and would be disgraced to see such a change :'( sorry not undertaker lol...

Nah but serious I think it should stay as a year.

I agree with this, it should stay at a year but the amount of posts should decrease as should the amount of rep points needed for another power.

[Seatherny]

I agree with this, it should stay at a year but the amount of posts should decrease as should the amount of rep points needed for another power.

A year is good. Like an anniversary gift. Just reduce posts and rep points.

[Sammeth.]

Yeah I like the fact its a year, I dont think that was ever the issue really just the posts and points as said. And the spread.

[Seatherny]

Why do Administrators have a fixed 15 reputation power? Why not have their's as normal too.

[Sammeth.]

I can't even remember the reason but I can remember nvr or MAD explained it once. Though I don't see why we can't just have our usual rep powers rather than a fixed one. I'll try and find that reason for you.

[Seatherny]

I can't even remember the reason but I can remember nvr or MAD explained it once. Though I don't see why we can't just have our usual rep powers rather than a fixed one. I'll try and find that reason for you.

Thanks. It takes seconds to do it so Admins have their own rep power and its fairer.

[e5]

Why do Administrators have a fixed 15 reputation power? Why not have their's as normal too.
So that they look superior.

[Immenseman]

I don't see the issue with it being 15, I know I used to hate it when I got it because my rep power was higher anyway :'( lol

[Sammeth.]

I dont think it really matters either way its just I cant actually think of the reason it is how it is. Its just been like that for as long as I can remember. Its bugging me mainly.

[Seatherny]

I dont think it really matters either way its just I cant actually think of the reason it is how it is. Its just been like that for as long as I can remember. Its bugging me mainly.

It was made 15 when no admins or members had another rep points to have 15 rep power. Now people have gone past that so its useless.

[FlyingJesus]

Reputation
Maybe a complete scrapping of the reputation system is not a bad idea or reducing all rep power down to 1 permanently.

So like you didn't fancy actually reading what people have to say on the matter then huh?


Hmm I've just had an idea... go along with Jin's idea of everyone having one rep power and then reset the rep system every 6 months so everyone is zeroed. It could be done on January 1st and July 1st every year.

It would give everyone a fair opportunity. To reward people for their efforts, give the top 10 people with the most reputation points at the end of the 6 month cycle, 6 months worth of special "Reputation edition VIP".

Rep isn't meant as a competition though, it's a way of showing (oddly enough) the reputation of a user throughout their time here.


Super-high rep powers wouldn't be practical on a forum like this though because as soon as you make an enemy (which happens all the time, and people gang up on people etc), you'd be ****** lol. I imagine that's why everyone's rep was halved a while back.

Super high powers make the entire thing pointless just like the low powers now do, but previously there were people who had enough to make a difference and it wasn't so difficult for other people to get theirs up either, as obviously higher powers around means more points can be added (or subtracted if needs be). Even if it's used "wrongly" I don't see a problem with it - obviously if enough people of good stature ie high rep don't like someone then their reputation takes a hit just like would happen in any social circle, it's truly reflective of reputation that way as it's meant to be.


I think the post approval should at least be lowered because 15 is alot for people who don't really know what they are doing.

As far as I'm aware it's down to 5 now, but I'd say it ought to be scrapped as many others appear to think.

[Roxy]

I have my own rep power!

I agree post approvals should be scrapped and I liked Garion's idea of how rep should be changed too. If rep was to be given out in competitions then that would help move people up quicker, particularly the newer users since it's mainly them who enter the competitions.

I think staggering the rep powers at the start could work too and then after a certain amount of rep points it just levels off and they go up the same way as everyone else. That'd make gaining your first few rep powers easy and might make new users try more if they know it's achievable.

I know everyone has sort of moved on from the hiring staff point, but when I do applications I post them all without a name and ask the seniors & asst to pick out their favs - that way they're judging only on the application and I don't tell them who they've picked until the end.

[Seatherny]

I have my own rep power!

I agree post approvals should be scrapped and I liked Garion's idea of how rep should be changed too. If rep was to be given out in competitions then that would help move people up quicker, particularly the newer users since it's mainly them who enter the competitions.

I think staggering the rep powers at the start could work too and then after a certain amount of rep points it just levels off and they go up the same way as everyone else. That'd make gaining your first few rep powers easy and might make new users try more if they know it's achievable.

I know everyone has sort of moved on from the hiring staff point, but when I do applications I post them all without a name and ask the seniors & asst to pick out their favs - that way they're judging only on the application and I don't tell them who they've picked until the end.

You arent admin though. And yeah thats the best way to do applications. Maybe 1 person should be sent application for everything and it should be forwarded to the Managers without the name for them to pick.

[Immenseman]

just made you go up to 3 rep power tbh roxy

[Roxy]

You arent admin though. And yeah thats the best way to do applications. Maybe 1 person should be sent application for everything and it should be forwarded to the Managers without the name for them to pick.

Oh right, ye I knew that :eusa_whis. The applications proccess isn't exactly the funnest things managers have to do and adding in another person would just make it more complicated. Plus, for jobs such as forum mod they need to know who's applying so they can check for their records. It does seem to work a lot better for jobs like events though so hopefully I'll be able to encourage other managers to do it that way.


just made you go up to 3 rep power tbh roxy

ta x

I don't exactly post a lot but, if I'm an agm and I've only just got to 3 rep power then either I'm doing something wrong or the new users have no hope.

[Seatherny]

It can be used only on some departments, but right now, its not needed at all.

[Mickword]

Hmmm, instead of all this, be a total noob like me lol.

[leah]

I do think post count should come back in the gaming section, there was no harm in it being there in the first place and it's just a bit of fun. I don't like the idea that bronze members only need 200 points for a rep power though, it takes time to establish rep and I'd rather work for it than just get it willy nilly like some other fansites do.

One of the main problems with HxF is the layout, it's so old and outdated and it isn't very welcoming at all. Other fansites have much more colourful and bold layouts and it feels much more friendlier and modern.

[hah]

yeah orange is ******* ming

[Immenseman]

Yeah, that has been mentioned and being worked on. I honestly think and know in some cases that the skin that you first see when you sign up puts people off. It's hideous. Sure, when they hang around for a bit they might choose to view that. However, until then there should be more of a "neutral" skin like one of the blue ones that your first see.

[Smits]

I do think post count should come back in the gaming section, there was no harm in it being there in the first place and it's just a bit of fun. I don't like the idea that bronze members only need 200 points for a rep power though, it takes time to establish rep and I'd rather work for it than just get it willy nilly like some other fansites do.

One of the main problems with HxF is the layout, it's so old and outdated and it isn't very welcoming at all. Other fansites have much more colourful and bold layouts and it feels much more friendlier and modern.

I think the only post post count shouldnt count is in spam.

[Immenseman]

Yeah, spam and staff forums - that's how it should be. I don't know why Jin has a problem with people wanting to get their post count up. He says it doesn't matter at all then directly contradicts himself by saying he won't allow post count in forum games because peoples post counts will get too big. When management are confused and not making sense, it's no real surprise members don't stick around.

[hah]

Naa not spam it shoudn't go up there. But im sure its ok to go up in Staff forum :P

[Immenseman]

Huh? We both said it shouldn't count in spam. Staff forums are (were) like spam so it shouldn't go up in there either (it doesn't atm). Everywhere else it should go up as per normal :)

[Robbie]

staff sections are 80% spam so all staffs posts would like shoot up

[Immenseman]

NOBODY IS SAYING POSTS SHOULD COUNT IN STAFF OR SPAM FORUMS. Some have said they should count in games forums.

[Vonko]

I agree with you. I joined Habbox in 2006 (previous accounts) and with all honestly I didn't carry on using it because I found it hard to get in with the community and to be part of it and I felt like a stalker of some sort. Habbox is a nice community, because someone like you are being honest, I've seen worse. If a member has the power on some forums, they'll take advandge and act like they could get everyone on this forum to hate you just because they can do that. I know this because it's happened to me on other forums.

[hah]

oh lol i read your post wrong

[AgnesIO]

Huh? We both said it shouldn't count in spam. Staff forums are (were) like spam so it shouldn't go up in there either (it doesn't atm). Everywhere else it should go up as per normal :)

What the **** Jake.

The RV Spam Thread is NOT spam >:{

We really have put in the effort to get over 36,500 posts - they are all very serious.

Evn by 100 odd posts saying: 'SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM' repeated a few 100 times

[hah]

I agree with you. I joined Habbox in 2006 (previous accounts) and with all honestly I didn't carry on using it because I found it hard to get in with the community and to be part of it and I felt like a stalker of some sort. Habbox is a nice community, because someone like you are being honest, I've seen worse. If a member has the power on some forums, they'll take advandge and act like they could get everyone on this forum to hate you just because they can do that. I know this because it's happened to me on other forums.

that means you was like 6 when you joined :l

[Immenseman]

LMAO, I love that thread in there. Loving your sig too.

[AgnesIO]

LMAO, I love that thread in there. Loving your sig too.

Well you were like the manager when I was first hired Ithink.
I told Elle to apply.
I think Dan had something to do with it (maybe ARVM) when I joined.
Luke, Alex, Aydan, have all been there with me for ages (I know two of the nerds have left now :P)

And sadly the spam thread is dying, I therefore think you should get staff rites for that thread, as the new RVR's have no idea how to spam.

[Immenseman]

Baha, I don't think it's on top of management's to do list...

#1 Hire Immenseman

Although I would like to be Help Desk staff, oh wellll -.-

[Vonko]

that means you was like 6 when you joined :l

I'm 16, how does that work lol

[AgnesIO]

Baha, I don't think it's on top of management's to do list...

#1 Hire Immenseman

Although I would like to be Help Desk staff, oh wellll -.-

Offer to hax them thrones xx Or offer to hax Demala thrones.

But I do not believe hacking is good, its against the habbo way innit.

The ACTUAL to do list is:


Hax rich people
Hax clubhabbo
Meet FiNcH-HimSeLf or however you say it
Kill da german hackers
Hire Immenseman
Remove this post of Demala's before ludus sees

[Immenseman]

ludus is brb writing up a report to habbox to complain about users again

[AgnesIO]

ludus is brb writing up a report to habbox to complain about users again

:D

I would love to recieve a letter from habbo one day threatening to ban me forever if I am rude on habbox. Would be 'interesting'.

[Chippiewill]

:D

I would love to recieve a letter from habbo one day threatening to ban me forever if I am rude on habbox. Would be 'interesting'.

'Dear Demala,
I am contacting you in regards to actions which you made on a site which is completely separate and unrelated to our company, we are disgusted that you made said actions and we are taking action by banning you on Habbo (Suck on THAT). We hope you fall into a hole and die from the experience and we hope you hate the next 15 years without Habbo! And don't even think about creating a new account because nobody will know who you are and I already registered DemalaBan. I hope you think about how your actions don't affect us at all before you perform them.

Luv ya,
Ludus'

[AgnesIO]

'Dear Demala,
I am contacting you in regards to actions which you made on a site which is completely separate and unrelated to our company, we are disgusted that you made said actions and we are taking action by banning you on Habbo (Suck on THAT). We hope you fall into a hole and die from the experience and we hope you hate the next 15 years without Habbo! And don't even think about creating a new account because nobody will know who you are and I already registered DemalaBan. I hope you think about how your actions don't affect us at all before you perform them.

Luv ya,
Ludus'


:D

It wouldn't surprise me if habbo did ban people from what they on here tbh lol.

I love your letter, but nexst time atleast put the habbo logo on top. Amateur.

[Chippiewill]

http://us.moo.com/en/readymade/images/partners/habbo_logo.png
'Dear Demala,
I am contacting you in regards to actions which you made on a site which is completely separate and unrelated to our company, we are disgusted that you made said actions and we are taking action by banning you on Habbo (Suck on THAT). We hope you fall into a hole and die from the experience and we hope you hate the next 15 years without Habbo! And don't even think about creating a new account because nobody will know who you are and I already registered DemalaBan. I hope you think about how your actions don't affect us at all before you perform them.

Luv ya,
Ludus'
There ya go

Now to keep on topic:
Yeah number of posts and amount of rep needed for rep power should be decreased but not time registered.

[AgnesIO]

There ya go

Now to keep on topic:

Yeah number of posts and amount of rep needed for rep power should be decreased but not time registered.

Habbo letters wouldn't have the white bacgkround on the pic x

Now to keep on topic:

wait, I have nothing to say,

[Chippiewill]

http://images.habbohotel.co.uk/c_images/WebLogos/habbo_logo_nourl.gifhttp://images.habbohotel.co.uk/c_images/album626/email_enterbut_en.gif (http://www.habbo.co.uk/client)

'Dear Demala,
I am contacting you in regards to actions which you made on a site which is completely separate and unrelated to our company, we are disgusted that you made said actions and we are taking action by banning you on Habbo (Suck on THAT). We hope you fall into a hole and die from the experience and we hope you hate the next 15 years without Habbo! And don't even think about creating a new account because nobody will know who you are and I already registered DemalaBan. I hope you think about how your actions don't affect us at all before you perform them.

Ludus
Offical Asshat
http://www.habbo.co.uk/habbo-imaging/avatar/sh-290-92.lg-275-110.ch-255-77.hd-180-1.hr-802-61,s-0.g-0.d-4.h-4.a-0,4a4d50c0b1f477f824b37ba06c7b29d5.gif

p.s. I apologise for missing out some random crap which is usually included in our emails between each other, I really cba to spend time on you.

p.p.s. Are we still on for the date on Friday? I booked a hotel room...


This email has been sent to you by THE Ludus (www.habbo.co.uk/home/ludus).

If you do not wish to be banned in future then hide from me.
A Habbox user's account was hacked by Ludus to get this email, if you are not Demala then go **** yourself.
If you have not registered at Habbox and have received this message in error, you can not bother doing anything by not doing anything (amazing).

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Sulake UK Ltd. 69th Floor, 42 New Oxford Street, Lodon, WE3 5UCK 1BS

Ontopic:
Posts like this shouldn't be allowed

[Hecktix]

Can we get back to the topic please?

Thanks :)

[Yonder]

There are no active threads at the moment which are still discussing ways on how we can keep our newer members. The best way is to wonder why they're leaving and I think it's because they struggle to establish themselves on the forum. By establish I mean getting post counts, getting noticed, getting staff, getting treated like older members and earning reputation.

Post count
Won't spend too long on this. We know the issue here and it has been discussed. Scrap the post approval. Also, I believe you should reverse the decision to discontinue post count in the forum games section. Sure they're not adding anything to the forum but if people want to get their post count up in an easy manner then I don't see the issue. I know I used to participate to try and increase my post count. I still post in forum games now and they're still quite active but maybe they'd be more active if post count went up in there. New members would be able to use as a way to get their count up and therefore have an improved identity. Older members wouldn't criticise them for doing this and once they've got a decent post count they won't be viewed as a "noob" anyway :rolleyes:

Agreed, though the whole post count thing is stupid anyways should just hide it.


Getting staff
I don't know the facts on this but I would imagine that an older more experienced member would be given the role over a new user regardless of their application. Maybe managers should try and ensure they employ some new users. I've noticed that only HxL seems to employ really new users with low post count. Some of the most valued members have low rep and post count.

True again, fresh staff bring new people to Habbox which is what we need to survive.

Noticed
Everybody likes to be noticed. I know for a fact people don't post new ideas in here because people will flame them because they're not an established member as I have been asked by a few people to post things in here for them. Unfortunately, if someone new was to post something in here it wouldn't be taken as serious if someone like MissAlice did regardless of how good their respective ideas were. I know I +REP all new users who post in this forum. If management acknowledged this issue and posted an announcement telling all users that they're having a problem with keeping new members so want all members to be involved I guarantee that people who want to appear really good forum members will take it upon themselves to make everyone feel welcome as they believe they'll be favoured.

Once again very true a lot of our members tend to do this, unfortunately that isn't a issue that can be easily changed as its the peoples opinion.


Reputation
Again, I know people don't use this forum and stay on this forum for reputation but I know I didn't like it when I had 1 power and people around me had 15+, it makes you feel inferior. Maybe scrap the system altogether. Or would it be possible for new members to have a different set up with regards to reputation. I think it's 600 points needed for a new power, that's not easy to get to. So many members are stuck on the 1-3 rep power. Maybe if they were a bronze member of whatever they should only need 200 points to go up a new power.

Rep is stupid anyways i turned mine off a long time ago.

Anyway, just a few ideas on how to tackle the issue. I know they're all pretty minor but I reckon if all of them were implemented together (if possible) then there would be an improvement, even if only minor.

Of course there have been many other ideas such as creating a group for them all to join and what not.

............

[Black_Apalachi]

RETRO BLUE FTW COS IM RETRO


so was my car



omg brb comiiting suicide ;l

[Sammeth.]

Retro blue is my favourie skin, it should be defaul tbh.

[Black_Apalachi]

Retro blue is my favourie skin, it should be defaul tbh.

already repped you init ;l

[Jamesy]

Retro blue is my favourie skin, it should be defaul tbh.

Enjoy it while you can :eusa_whis

[Blinger1]

The dark skin would be perfect if there wasn't the advertisement for habbo in the middle.

[Black_Apalachi]

Enjoy it while you can :eusa_whis

WOT??? :@

[Hecktix]

Enjoy it while you can :eusa_whis

You best be joking.

Although I like the idea of the non-habbo light skin.

[Seatherny]

You best be joking.

Although I like the idea of the non-habbo light skin.

Nope
They listed the skins which are coming back

Non habbo dark skin
site skin
classic skin
and some "non habbox something skin"

[AgnesIO]

http://images.habbohotel.co.uk/c_images/WebLogos/habbo_logo_nourl.gifhttp://images.habbohotel.co.uk/c_images/album626/email_enterbut_en.gif (http://www.habbo.co.uk/client)

'Dear Demala,
I am contacting you in regards to actions which you made on a site which is completely separate and unrelated to our company, we are disgusted that you made said actions and we are taking action by banning you on Habbo (Suck on THAT). We hope you fall into a hole and die from the experience and we hope you hate the next 15 years without Habbo! And don't even think about creating a new account because nobody will know who you are and I already registered DemalaBan. I hope you think about how your actions don't affect us at all before you perform them.

Ludus
Offical Asshat
http://www.habbo.co.uk/habbo-imaging/avatar/sh-290-92.lg-275-110.ch-255-77.hd-180-1.hr-802-61,s-0.g-0.d-4.h-4.a-0,4a4d50c0b1f477f824b37ba06c7b29d5.gif

p.s. I apologise for missing out some random crap which is usually included in our emails between each other, I really cba to spend time on you.

p.p.s. Are we still on for the date on Friday? I booked a hotel room...


This email has been sent to you by THE Ludus (www.habbo.co.uk/home/ludus (http://www.habbo.co.uk/home/ludus)).


If you do not wish to be banned in future then hide from me.
A Habbox user's account was hacked by Ludus to get this email, if you are not Demala then go **** yourself.
If you have not registered at Habbox and have received this message in error, you can not bother doing anything by not doing anything (amazing).


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Sulake UK Ltd. 69th Floor, 42 New Oxford Street, Lodon, WE3 5UCK 1BS

Ontopic:
Posts like this shouldn't be allowed

The date is on, Idon't wanna go to a nublet hotel though :eusa_whis


Retro blue is my favourie skin, it should be defaul tbh.

I LOVE YOU.

YOU CANNOT REMOVE RETRO BLUE AS IT IS SO ******* HOT.

COmpared to the other skins at least. Mind you I would also like a non-habbo light skin.

[Immenseman]

Why on Earth do I have to put a stupid image verification in to post? I AM A BOT PEEPS.

anyways, james wth you can't get rid of the MOST POPULA skin. retro blue ftw ladies.

[Jin]

^^^^^ Uh oh, we could have potentially screwed this one up ^^^^^

[xxMATTGxx]

With the message Jin just told me, then god help us all.

[Immenseman]

maybe i'm a moderated user or summet idk lol but it's bare annoying. also, you said you didn't want to scrap the scheme because it would allowed banned users to come back and make posts, they still can. and it doesn't remove the issue of human spamming too. ah well, better than nothing. also, will there be changes to rep system? y/n big man

[Jin]

Erm yeah weirdly you were in the "new user" usergroup along with 18 other people.

Regarding the reputation system I am not entirely convinced by the proposed changes nor do the current members seem to want to see the proposed changes. I would much rather scrap it, replace it or reset the whole thing but no one seems to like that idea.

[Hecktix]

Erm yeah weirdly you were in the "new user" usergroup along with 18 other people.

Regarding the reputation system I am not entirely convinced by the proposed changes nor do the current members seem to want to see the proposed changes. I would much rather scrap it, replace it or reset the whole thing but no one seems to like that idea.

thought about an opinion poll?

[Immenseman]

huh? i think the members do want to see reputation changes? (judging on this thread)

[Alkaz]

Erm yeah weirdly you were in the "new user" usergroup along with 18 other people.

Regarding the reputation system I am not entirely convinced by the proposed changes nor do the current members seem to want to see the proposed changes. I would much rather scrap it, replace it or reset the whole thing but no one seems to like that idea.
From what I have read and understood of this thread its the total opposite to what you said. People would much rather it go back to a system more like the old.

[Seatherny]

Erm yeah weirdly you were in the "new user" usergroup along with 18 other people.

Regarding the reputation system I am not entirely convinced by the proposed changes nor do the current members seem to want to see the proposed changes. I would much rather scrap it, replace it or reset the whole thing but no one seems to like that idea.

What about the people who paid for reputation? Because alot of people actually bought reputation.

[Immenseman]

people who bought it should have it all taken away!! cheats but yeah that obv won't happen and if they scrap it, people will be asking for refunds.

[Titch]

i wants a refund if u scrap it.

[Sammeth.]

Enjoy it while you can :eusa_whis

ikr i am a fan of the new nonhabbo skin though ill be honest xoxo -lets all ya sekrits out

[Robbie]

ive seen em too. fit skins jamesy lad

[Immenseman]

unless they're as good as the ch christmas one (http://www.clubhabboforum.net/index.php) i'm not impressed

[hah]

yeah init we are expecting very high stadards for the years of crap skins we have endured

[Robbie]

best skins ever

[Chippiewill]

The date is on, Idon't wanna go to a nublet hotel though :eusa_whis

Mwhahahaha, I tricked you, the Habbo logo isn't linked to Habbo :D

Also:

Yay! Non-Habbo light skin!

[Jamesy]

Yay! Non-Habbo light skin!

Hope you like blue :8

[Immenseman]

Remove the blue skin, not retro blue :(