Retro Servers: Are you For or Against It?

[:Donut]

I've recently discovered and played the first retro server I ever came across. It's named after a bathroom product and that's how far I'll go mentioning specifically what it is just incase Mods are strict about it. Anyway, with this hotel, it came with basically infinite credits, with the option of refilling it if you ran out.

Now, of course I got excited at the fact that I got all this wealth. In real Habbo, I am the middle man. Probably worth about 10 HCs If you've combined my rares and norms together. But after a few hours it [The Retro Server] got boring, but I still liked the fact I was rich in that game.

One of the reasons I liked it so much was because I got to build the rooms of my dreams. I mean yes having a room of Thrones and Petal Floors and stuff are awesome, but that wasn't really the goal I was looking for because It would be good to show those off, if you actually earned them yourself.

I've also used it to test room layouts so I know how much furni I need to buy, which furni would complement each other, etc.

Long story short, I am for Retro Servers. As long as they are not stealing revenue/money from Habbo, then I believe they shouldn't be closed. I like my freedom of design that comes with the free credits. I'm a fan of The Sims, and this is basically like The Sims Online as I can also play it with my friends. It felt nostalgic as it was the Habbo before BETA as well, which on SOME cases, I've preferred.

[Gaix]

soap hotel.

[Kyle]

retros are okay but most have about 5 active users, all staff, all constantly banning eachother just for the hell of it. Sure, it's nice to make a pretty room but what's the point if you know that you've not earned the furniture to make it. You can't exactly share your room with your habbo friends either since most people avoid retros. They're boring and only really useful for coders

[::Art::]

i sometimes go on retros to design rooms

[rifleboyaka]

Im for Retros. But Habbo have to close them down as if everybody went on a retro and got unlimited credits, Habbo would lose money.

Kyle, I know alot of retros that have 200-300 people on at a time and doesn't lagg like Habbo does.

[AgnesIO]

I find retros boring, as there is nothing to get.

Also I am not saying every retro owner hacks, but many users that come on here 'ZOMG I IS HACKED' "I did not type in my details to any sites"

Two weeks later.. 'Come on this retro with me'

:l

[Laurensh1]

This is what I agree with :)
*Anonymous habbo*: “Frank, what’s the deal with retroservers and why do I keep visiting them ?”
Frank: “You get presented this idea immense wealth, habbowise, is at your fingertips. Within hours you find the server needs to be restarted, crashes, or whatever, accounts are reset, and you need to rebuild your wealth. If you finally have something build, you find the only way to ‘share’ your wealth is to make screenshots and post on a forum online, that focusses on the ‘real’ hotel. The discomfort you’re feeling originates in the fact you do know it’s not real.”
*Anonymous habbo*: “Frank, but a retroserver is just as (un)real as the official hotel, just (the same) digital data ?!”
Frank: “Reality kick(ing in), dear anonymous. You’re right, both are just digital data, and the data is much alike. But the digital data of the real hotel persist, while you can count on the other to vanish. That simple. Your purchase with the real hotel also gets you a promise it will be remembered and kept online, this is a key thing that comes with your purchase. It might help the promise comes from the people that designed the furniture and have their servers running for years…”
Surely, retroservers are running on files taken from the real hotel. But they have these hotels running on their home computers, set up as a server, usually link to some files on the habbo servers. The files they use are copied from Sulake, so no way around the fact the data is the same. The ‘realness’ of the ‘real’ hotel is rather defined by a) ownership of the design, and b) the above mentioned promise of persistence, which no retro can make true.

They’re called retro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro)servers because people used to run really old versions of the hotel for fun. Good old days and stuff. Nowadays, most people running one try to keep up with the latest version of the hotel Sulake has online.
*Anonymous habbo*: “But Frank, I did visit a retroserver and now I see the Habbo homepage is issuing serious warnings about them ?! Am I probed, lost, incurable ?”
http://www.habborator.org/frank/gfx/frank_16.gif Frank: “Nah, probably not. In most cases it’s just kids playing around, admitted. They should think a little, much more respect to be earned by creating an original fansite, for instance. Yet, if people are able to get a retroserver running, they’re also able to provide you with a keylogger (you don’t even need to be remotely smart for both). And please tell me you didn’t use same name & password you did for the real thing.”
*Anonymous habbo*: “Why the big fuzz then, Frank ?”
Frank: “Even Sulake does not think retroservers are a big threat. Yes, they have them taken down by hosts, yes, they even take legal action when deemed properly. But ‘properly’ for Sulake is the exact moment these ‘hotels’ are trying to become the real thing. When retroservers start trying to build a community, hold competitions or even start selling their configuration. The ‘Keep it real’ campaign my bosses started didn't accidentally start in US and Holland. It’s countries where (Habbo, and thus) retroservers are popular.”


source: Habborator.org/frank (http://www.habborator.org/frank/index.html)

[Black_Apalachi]

Well I've never been on a retro but I got bored of the real thing a long time ago before I even got very rich so I can't see the same thing - minus the friends and effort - being terribly exciting. Sure, it sounds great to have an unlimited amount of furni to create whatever rooms you like, but what's the point when there's hardly anybody there to see it? :S

Not that I overly rate Sulake's moral standards, but retros are rightfully illegal and to me, they do not seem any way near worth the risks of getting into trouble over, either legally or with viruses.

[Sharon]

Well if your a noob and go on a retro it's Fun for them to experience. Then if they like it they would buy creds?

[xXiShadowXx]

I actually worked at a fairly big retro a while ago.

Some are actually good, but there are alot with like 3 users at the most, which aren't good :P

[Mickword]

Im for it lol.

[BeanEgg]

This will contradict everything I was doing as an X on Habbo SG. :P

To be honest I've used them before and I don't have a problem with them.
Some of them are quite bad considering they are not maintained well.

Also, there's isn't all of that 'competition' on the retros as everyone is pretty much of equal wealth, but there is on the legit client.

[Vonko]

Looking at the good side of a retro is that we get unlimited furniture. But then looking at the bad side, you can get keylogged, and worse could happen. Also looking at your point I highly agree. The thing about Habbo is that you have people better than you and people less better than you, and sorry to admit it but It's nice to show of with the furniture you have. Something you can't do on a retro.

Retro's are pointless, I have tried one out, but I was bored in a hour, and it's a totally waste of space.

[Callum.]

You're not rich as you're the same wealth as everyone else. You can make the best room ever, but every other person could replicate it easily.

:eusa_whis

[Cosmic]

I only ever used to go on them to build huge rooms with the seemingly unlimited supply of credits that I was given. I think generally they aren't such a big deal any more as oppose to a couple of years ago and it's just a bit of harmless fun anyway. For it, I'ma go with.

[thorn]

I am kinda for it..

AS, Habbo say it is technically stealing there images, and putting them as your own?

So basically they're saying, if you make a fansite and use habbo images its against their terms and conditions?

Also the unlimited furniture and credits, its nice.

I remember my older bro used to own one, and he made it out to be really easy to set up,

Get all the files, get the server, get the *Loader* ? and put tht html code on a website, and then you can do what you want..


But then again, it doesnt have the fun factor as real habbo does.

The Community, the Competition ideas, and also the power of having all of the furniture does become very boring!!

[Ajthedragon]

Retro's are boring in my eyes, you don't work for furniture, you don't bet for gain? Nor do you need to trade. Thus its just pointless. And makes Sulake lose money (however much we hate sulake we have to have some consideration for them :().

[AgnesIO]

Retro's are boring in my eyes, you don't work for furniture, you don't bet for gain? Nor do you need to trade. Thus its just pointless. And makes Sulake lose money (however much we hate sulake we have to have some consideration for them :().

I know! I mean if the noobs stop paying them for credits, there is nobody to hack, then there is no fun for no one :(

[Calvin]

I know! I mean if the noobs stop paying them for credits, there is nobody to hack, then there is no fun for no one :(
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And I am for. I much prefer retros where the rares are only released sometimes, not all of them so like theres rare of the week or something, then you can earn stuff and it won't be all the same.

[Soy]

Doesn't effect the users of Habbo, I own one, so I support

[AgnesIO]

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And I am for. I much prefer retros where the rares are only released sometimes, not all of them so like theres rare of the week or something, then you can earn stuff and it won't be all the same.

Learn a joke.

[Hecktix]

Nothing wrong with playing on a retro if you want to do a bit of room design however it'd never compare to the real thing because you just don't get the same amount of members, it sure does get boring on your own ;)

Obviously you're a fool if you type in your real details or download anything from the sites, but if you're intelligent enough not to do this then fair enough.

Although, most retros are crap.

[e5]

i dont mind the odd habbo retro, aslong as they dont take over the actual habbo hotel, they can be pretty fun :)

[Blinger1]

I like to play OLD retros, as in v1-v7. Simply because I like to try and remember the old scripts I used to do 0:-)

[Jahova]

Sulake lie about retros. There is nothing wrong with most of them. Sure, some are harmful but I've been in the private server scene for a while and I know my stuff. Also, some retros did hit the big time. Sunnieday a dutch retro had over 1000 members online with their C# server. I've seen a retro that was poorly coded but still had 300 members online.

[Frisky]

I like them, endless creativity and just generally more fun.

Also love the fact that you can see what older versions where like before you played & experience old versions you used to play :)

They are bad though, but hey. It's not like I'd play one perm

[Obeying]

Im for Retros. But Habbo have to close them down as if everybody went on a retro and got unlimited credits, Habbo would lose money.

Kyle, I know alot of retros that have 200-300 people on at a time and doesn't lagg like Habbo does.
Yeah, but i can't see a retro having 11k users online at once.. Personally i think let the retro people have some fun!