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hah
29-12-2009, 02:29 PM
It has been said many times that we need a GM. The question is who? Habbox is failing. If we aren't given a GM who has the power to make changes PROMPTLY and without the need to seek higher approval Habbox can't be successful.

So vote in the Poll above and choose who you think should be the next GM.

Alkaz
29-12-2009, 02:31 PM
No poll - but it would be nice if nvrspk would come back properly or let us know what is actually happening.

hah
29-12-2009, 02:32 PM
You got in before the poll :@

Nixt
29-12-2009, 02:32 PM
I voted Sam. Nvrspk4 is unrealistic. He obviously doesn't want to be / can't be here. Sammeth is one of the longest serving members of staff who is extremely good at his job and would have the balls to make some real change.

Callum.
29-12-2009, 02:33 PM
Sammeth or Garion I think.

Hecktix
29-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Sam is "next in line" so to speak, he'd also do a fantastic job and is very active around the forums :)

Black_Apalachi
29-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Garion or Brandon.

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 02:38 PM
Its obvious no one other than Sammeth would get it. This poll will have zero effect. The quick Sammeth becomes GM the better.

hah
29-12-2009, 02:38 PM
brandon is longer serving than Sammeth i think

Hecktix
29-12-2009, 02:38 PM
brandon is longer serving than Sammeth i think

Not entirely.

Special
29-12-2009, 02:39 PM
I voted Mattgarner because he seems to be online much more than the others and seems dedicated. Ah who cares, this poll was biast anyway

xxMATTGxx
29-12-2009, 02:42 PM
The poll won't do anything but Sammeth if anyone.

Swearwolf
29-12-2009, 02:43 PM
garion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sammeth.
29-12-2009, 02:45 PM
With deepest respects, its not about who's longest serving its about who is qualified to handle the workload. Though I doubt this poll would have much of an effect on the outcome if a general was to be picked. (BUT DW ILL STILL VOTE FOR MYSELF IF I BEGIN TO LOSE :@)

I'm wholeheartedly in agreement that we need a new General Manager. As much as I love nvr, whenever I've spoken to him (the last time was earlier this month) from what I've grasped its very very unlikely he will return. If he does it won't be to a role as extensive as general manager. The sooner we do get a permanant general manager the better, and I do hope it will be looked into.

hah
29-12-2009, 02:45 PM
I voted Mattgarner because he seems to be online much more than the others and seems dedicated. Ah who cares, this poll was biast anyway


if the poll was bias i wouldn't have put Mattgarner babe x


Not entirely.

shut up :(

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 02:48 PM
People also need to understand that the GM runs the whole or Habbox. The person needs to have experience and be able to run the whole of Habbox.

Like I said, threads such as these are pointless as there is no doubt that Sammeth will be the next GM, and like I said before, the quicker, the better.

Titch
29-12-2009, 02:49 PM
Sam without a doubt, we may not always see eye to eye, however he is bloody good at what he does and always has a high appearance around habbo and habbox which is what we need from a general manager.

Sam would make a fanatic general manager!

Hecktix
29-12-2009, 02:50 PM
People also need to understand that if GM runs the whole or Habbox. The person needs to have experience and be able to run the whole of Habbox.

Like I said, threads such as these are pointless as there is no doubt that Sammeth will be the next GM, and like I said before, the quicker, the better.

Jin has been aware of the need for a GM for sometime, and he's also aware Sam would accept the position.

So...

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Jin has been aware of the need for a GM for sometime, and he's also aware Sam would accept the position.

So...

What's he waiting for then? :S Maybe he thinks nvrspk4 will return?

jackass
29-12-2009, 02:56 PM
When nvrspk4 WAS here, he was a great GM, but as the current situation stands... I don't know!

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 02:58 PM
8Freak8 was the best. Pure awesomeness.

Hecktix
29-12-2009, 02:59 PM
8Freak8 was the best. Pure awesomeness.

he was online last night lol

Titch
29-12-2009, 03:00 PM
8Freak8 was the best. Pure awesomeness.

so true,

still remember when he was banned on habbo when general manager and every1 revolted and they unbanned him LOL

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Why was he banned?

hah
29-12-2009, 03:02 PM
---mad---

Sammeth.
29-12-2009, 03:02 PM
8freak8 was brilliant, he gave me my first manager role so obviously had an excellent eye (jks i gave him sexual favours). On a personal level though nvrs always been my favourite general manager, and probably my favourite staff member cus I pick favourites you see.

scottish
29-12-2009, 03:06 PM
I'd prefer nvr to come back but if it was definite he wasn't then i'd say realistically sammeth

Immenseman
29-12-2009, 03:28 PM
I have no favour to any of them. So I will post what I think on each of them. Just because I say no to you doesn't mean I'd be disappointed if you got the role, they're all good candidates and fantastic staff members. Firstly, I find this a bit disrespectful to nvrspk4 because I'd say he has put in more work and effort and has kept this place together time after time. I'd say he has done more than sierk and or Jin for Habbox and I'm sure others will agree. Obviously they pay the bills but you know what I mean.

Garion - No experience of general management. He has quit and come back numerous times as far as I'm aware when the going gets tough. I know he got annoyed as AFM last time and quit so who's to say when the going gets tough as GM which it will then he won't just pack it in. Saying this he's a friendly face and would be fantastic on the community side. Also, doesn't go on Habbo much.

Sammeth. - I thought he quit his role as community AGM so he'd have more free time. So why would he get GM if he couldn't cope with a bigger AGM role so downsized. There is a post on the forum where he said he took on staff editor so he had more free time. He has a full time job (I think) therefore I don't think he'd be suitable although he'd be fantastic on the community side of the role. Not on Habbo enough representing Habbox. Jin knows he won't be able to deal with any site issues like 8f8, ---MAD--- and nvr (limited) could and I doubt Jin wants to always be cleaning up.

Brandon - Again he has no experience of General Management and he was fired before, although that was years ago but wasn't he accused of giving out HxL details or something (might have the totally wrong person, sorry!) he's a lovely person and very popular. I don't see him post much any more but he wouldn't take it too serious and I'd be more than content if he got the role :) Doesn't play Habbo as far as I'm aware which I think a GM should.

infrequent - I think he'd actually be good. He is an AGM therefore is used to being General Management if only for a short period of time. He's popular. He can do community and the site stuff which so far none of the other candidates could - this is obviously essential. He posts around the forum a lot, he speaks sense, he can have a laugh. Again, doesn't play Habbo thus doesn't represent Habbox like a GM should.

MattG - If it was up to me, I'd pick him. He posts on the forum more than some of the above. He's a community man and can do the other roles too as he has shown in his versatility since he was made step in AGM. He actually plays Habbo on a daily basis which is good and he talks to Habbox users on the client and often helps with their issues. He's 16/17 - at college - a lot of free time. He always checks habbox before going to college and often in the daytime. He should be GM imo :)

I tried to give +/- of most people and they're just my opinions and my opinion has no weight whatsoever in choosing who will succeed Nvr. Whoever it is will be faced with obvious issues and it's important when it's announced that the users get behind whoever is chosen.

jackass
29-12-2009, 03:44 PM
Yeah, I agree with you, Matt is a really nice guy, and I know for a fact he is very dedicated to his work here. :)

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Why do we actually need a GM :S Yeah its good to have 1 person making all decisions ...
Just give all AGM's the power to make decisions on their own of the part of Habbox which they control.
Give the FM the power to make what changes he/she wants to the forum.

Immenseman
29-12-2009, 03:55 PM
It's essential to have a GM. When I was AGM with Adzeh Joshuar and Nvrspk4 and ---MAD--- as GM, (when habbox was pop (jokes calm it)) we wouldn't really agree. The situation that springs to mind is reputation changes. I know I was the only one who opposed it and all the others wanted to make alterations to the system. If I remember rightly nvrspk4 wanted it a lot stricter than it is now even. We needed a GM to evaluate what we said and then make a final decision.

hah
29-12-2009, 03:56 PM
i love the way on clubhabbo if a user makes a thread and most people agree, an admin will post saying

yeah sure ill do that now and its done without consulting anyone...... and they dont wait till sunday

but its obv up to Skatchu for big big big decisions

Immenseman
29-12-2009, 03:58 PM
lol weekly changes are the worst things ever. firstly, why sunday, day of rest, what would god say ;l also, if something needs done on monday do they wait til sunday :S most of the time nothing is done on the day anyway.

Seatherny
29-12-2009, 03:58 PM
i love the way on clubhabbo if a user makes a thread and most people agree, an admin will post saying

yeah sure ill do that now and its done without consulting anyone...... and they dont wait till sunday

but its obv up to Skatchu for big big big decisions

Every decision on Habbox is considered to be big :P

FlyingJesus
29-12-2009, 04:28 PM
I wanted to vote other and say myself because I'm fabulous but really I'd have to back Sam on this one. I don't imagine his lack of technical knowledge would be a problem seeing as how there are others on hand to deal with it, and aside from the fact that he's a decent guy he's also usually rather more rational than most others and doesn't seem to act on emotion (obv why he's single) like is seen far too often when teens are in charge of things.

Also he's my friend and would obv give me a high ranking job or something if I lick his arse enough, I think that's how it works anyway

Inseriousity.
29-12-2009, 04:31 PM
I'll vote the quickest to reply to my PMs so that's Matt :P

flatface
29-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Voted for Sammeth because he was fair and real good at being community AGM, he also seems to be a good staff agm too and probs has the most experience overall.

AgnesIO
29-12-2009, 09:50 PM
We also need to point out that the comme 'Habbox is failing' is complete, and utter ********..

Radio: 171 listeners

I could bet my habbo account that 9/10 trades rooms if you ask what value site they use 'Habbox.com'

If I say: 87hc for throne, I can almost promise you the seller will say 'na 88'

Habbox isn't failing, the users think it is.

Cheryl
29-12-2009, 09:54 PM
I voted Matt G - he is always around on the forum and the client, he can cover the site side and is a friendly face :)

GommeInc
29-12-2009, 10:23 PM
Why do we actually need a GM :S Yeah its good to have 1 person making all decisions ...
Just give all AGM's the power to make decisions on their own of the part of Habbox which they control.
Give the FM the power to make what changes he/she wants to the forum.
That's what jrh2002 had. He had all the power to control the forum, mainly because he owned it :P He did an incredibly good job as the Forum Manager, and was realistic with his decisions.

AgnesIO
29-12-2009, 10:29 PM
That's what jrh2002 had. He had all the power to control the forum, mainly because he owned it :P He did an incredibly good job as the Forum Manager, and was realistic with his decisions.

Just like Sierk aye? xD

hah
29-12-2009, 10:31 PM
sierk doesnt come on but........

GommeInc
29-12-2009, 10:32 PM
Just like Sierk aye? xD
Oh no, sierk is realistic 80% of the time, just some of the past decisions he had made were pretty lousy. If you seek common sense, it was best to talk to sierk (but he's not as active as he once was).

AgnesIO
29-12-2009, 10:34 PM
sierk doesnt come on but........

Dw, just a little talk haha.

I never really knewsierk very well, I joined but didn't really become active for months, and by then he seemed to be somewhat 'gone'.

BeanEgg
29-12-2009, 10:38 PM
MattGarner! - Professional and prompt. He's always on aswell.

-:Undertaker:-
29-12-2009, 11:03 PM
I don't think nvrspk should be replaced or thrown out as its being suggested, hes been here years and hes just off at the moment, thats no reason to get rid of him. I don't like backstabbing.

Hecktix
29-12-2009, 11:16 PM
I don't think nvrspk should be replaced or thrown out as its being suggested, hes been here years and hes just off at the moment, thats no reason to get rid of him. I don't like backstabbing.

nvrspk has said he won't be returning to Sammeth I think.

Jordy
29-12-2009, 11:25 PM
Sierk has made a grand total of two posts in 2009 so far. Presumably he's made a few more in staff forums but still.

HabboxForum is surely not profitable and he obviously gets no enjoyment out the forum because if so he would post. May as well just hand all the reigns to Jin or someone else as the forum would function better seeing as the GM issue could be addressed quicker.

-:Undertaker:-
29-12-2009, 11:28 PM
nvrspk has said he won't be returning to Sammeth I think.

Oh thats a shame then, well if hes not returning then I agree we need a new General Manager straight away. We need somebody who is the opposite of the past two General Managers before nvrspk4 - somebody who will relax the forum and get a community feel back to the forum, not somebody who will set out to impose their own rules and way of doing things on the forum. Out of that list I don't have a problem with any of them. I think the next General Manager should be voted in, and they should say what they plan to do if they become General Manager. I can't see any objections to that, unless there are hidden agendas.

Robbie
29-12-2009, 11:28 PM
Presumably he's made a few more in staff forums but still.

I can't see he's made any in the staff forums, unless he's made some in the management forums? Also I've seen him online twice, both for 5 mins on invisible mode

leah
29-12-2009, 11:33 PM
No poll - but it would be nice if nvrspk would come back properly or let us know what is actually happening.
yeah I miss him :/

I voted Sam. Nvrspk4 is unrealistic. He obviously doesn't want to be / can't be here. Sammeth is one of the longest serving members of staff who is extremely good at his job and would have the balls to make some real change.
but he doesn't have time :(


MattG - If it was up to me, I'd pick him. He posts on the forum more than some of the above. He's a community man and can do the other roles too as he has shown in his versatility since he was made step in AGM. He actually plays Habbo on a daily basis which is good and he talks to Habbox users on the client and often helps with their issues. He's 16/17 - at college - a lot of free time. He always checks habbox before going to college and often in the daytime. He should be GM imo :).
omg lol, no offence to Matt but he isn't the maturist of users from what i've seen and heard and he is quite prone to picking favourites in my opinion at least. Sammuf all the way, or maybe even Roxy! would be nice to see a female and she's mature yet relaxed and approachable at the same time :)

I wanted to vote other and say myself because I'm fabulous but really I'd have to back Sam on this one. I don't imagine his lack of technical knowledge would be a problem seeing as how there are others on hand to deal with it, and aside from the fact that he's a decent guy he's also usually rather more rational than most others and doesn't seem to act on emotion (obv why he's single) like is seen far too often when teens are in charge of things.

Also he's my friend and would obv give me a high ranking job or something if I lick his arse enough, I think that's how it works anyway

lol it works that way most of the time and omg your sig ;l

FlyingJesus
30-12-2009, 12:28 AM
I don't think nvrspk should be replaced or thrown out as its being suggested, hes been here years and hes just off at the moment, thats no reason to get rid of him. I don't like backstabbing.

It's not backstabbing lol he's been out of the picture for quite a long time now and it's affecting the whole of Habbox in an adverse way. I have nothing against him as he's always been a decent enough guy but that's not a reason to keep things as they are


I think the next General Manager should be voted in, and they should say what they plan to do if they become General Manager. I can't see any objections to that, unless there are hidden agendas.

Good lord no people are stupid and democracy should never be applied to teen societies that are intended to work


would be nice to see a female

That's what I thought but then you turned up

Glitter
30-12-2009, 12:36 AM
CMONNNNN SAMMETH MY MAN!

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 01:07 AM
DAN LMAO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY WE SHOULD VOTE ON GM?!?! U R SO INSANE THIS IS NOT TIME FOR A REFERENDUM

FlyingJesus
30-12-2009, 01:11 AM
Stop having a hidden agenda

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 01:15 AM
anyway as far as i know the person who will be getting GM has already spoken in very early stages about it with jin but they want sierk on because obviously it's a huge decision and role

lol jokes but yeah i'd be happy with any of the mentioned they've been here for ages and know habbox well and would make a good gm imo :)

-:Undertaker:-
30-12-2009, 01:50 AM
DAN LMAO YOU DID NOT JUST SAY WE SHOULD VOTE ON GM?!?! U R SO INSANE THIS IS NOT TIME FOR A REFERENDUM

I just don't want another 8Freak8 or ---MAD--- who when you wanted something to change in the department, you had to jump through a thousand hoops to change something so small. Or as with the second example, if you questioned a decision you got banned. I don't think any of the list above are like that, but whoever becomes General Manager should post what they are going to do and how they will run things as soon as they gain the post.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 02:11 AM
That isn't true. I was a manager under 8freak8, ---MAD--- and Nvr, not many people were. I can safely say that ---MAD--- was the least interfering. They contributed where necessary but I always had the mentality the final decision was mine and they respected that. I think the issue now is managers aren't chosen in the correct manner, they need people with personalities, not clones, people who will actually challenge themselves and have a genuine desire to improve their department. I know this is controversial but just what I believe has happened.

GommeInc
30-12-2009, 02:41 AM
---MAD--- was a control freak most of the time, the council never worked because of him and he took the blame and control of any problems within departments, making managers virtually useless. He is probably the main suspect for causing a rift between community and management. If he didn't, he sure jumped on the bottom and ripped it seam from seam :/

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 02:47 AM
Yeah, I remember you being a manager when was General Manager too. People can say what they want about him but he did a far better job than what is being done at the moment. He knew how important it was to have Habbox big on the hotel, he played habbo actively, he made a Habbox casino which got popular, he got me to make sure all trade rooms had habbox.com in the names of their rooms. Things like this just aren't done any more. I know they're minor but that's what keeps things ticking, all the minor things integrating into Habbox itself. When each and every little thing gets eradicated from the formula it no longer works.

I don't think there is anything crippling, it could get that way because absolutely nothing is being done about getting and advertising it on Habbo again in my opinion. The things they do are just attended by already Habbox members and don't pick up new people and when they do it's on the basis "sign up or no prize" etc. They need senior people who play Habbo, last time I said that I was accused of trying to talk myself into a role, this is not the case. It's just what I feel needs doing. CH and HFFM have caught up easy because their owner and management are recognised and mobbed on Habbo because they are marquee names on the hotel.

Sammeth.
30-12-2009, 02:52 AM
I was lucky enough to be under 8freak8, ---MAD--- and nvrspk4 as a manager too (ooer), and I have to admit ---MAD--- did tend to be way more lenient in terms of control over the department. And I never really had much of a problem with nvr as we were pretty much on the same page with most things. 8Freak8 did leave a few months after he hired me, but from what I did do under his reign as General Management he seemed to have a lot more input into. Maybe this was because I had never been a manager before and wanted to make sure things went smoothly, I dont know. I just think the main problem is 1) Managers aren't sure what they do and don't need approval for and 2) There isnt someone active they can turn to. If things did need approving, that could easily be done within 24 hours if that if there someone there who you could instantly ask.

Yonder
30-12-2009, 03:11 AM
I have worked and managed departments under, Sierk, Properclone, 8freak8, ---MAD-- & Nvrspk4 and never had a problem with doing anything you just need patience as all limeys like to pick stuff part and throw in their ideas, which is great that is how it should be. Things used to go through departments quicker when we didn't have such a big (a)GM system, we just had managers and GM.

I think we need someone who is possibly older than previous ones someone who has the time and devotion to Habbox for the future. Obviously other big points such as being a good active friendly fun person is also needed. I do too want the Habbox old feeling back of fun and a close nit community, all i know is something needs to change.

FlyingJesus
30-12-2009, 10:53 PM
Older? Sierk is pretty much Father Time himself, never knew properclone really, 8f8 is about 30 now and MAD/Nvr are like 18+ as far as I know

ps: I agree though because I'm really really old

leah
30-12-2009, 10:56 PM
Nvr's like 16? LOL and tom at your last post HOW RUDE!!!
Also MAD was a good GM in my opinion, he wasn't as harsh as people thought, you should get him on msn plus he used to DJ on HxL <3

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 11:15 PM
---MAD--- is 18 and nvr 17, I thought. ---MAD--- was a legend, this is a fact.

Robbie
30-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Sam for owner i got my perms back he would be good as a judge

FlyingJesus
30-12-2009, 11:19 PM
Nvr's like 16? LOL and tom at your last post HOW RUDE!!!
Also MAD was a good GM in my opinion, he wasn't as harsh as people thought, you should get him on msn plus he used to DJ on HxL <3

What where I don't imagine I would ever be rude and don't be a noob he's been looking into colleges and in the US of gAy college = uni he's at least 40

Sammeth.
30-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Jin only used this poll as a sole basis for hiring me true story.

AgnesIO
31-12-2009, 09:58 AM
Omg idea :D

We could make each of the top 3 voted GM for one week each (in January)

Then in the fourth week hold a poll to see who you think did the best job?

:)

scottish
31-12-2009, 01:44 PM
A week isn't long enough lol, even stuff like events trials is more than a week.

I also disagree with the whole voting in thing, they should be picked by jin/sierk

Hecktix
31-12-2009, 01:47 PM
Thread closed, we have a new GM.

Sammeth.
31-12-2009, 03:46 PM
Would just like to point out I was joking when I said Jin used this poll to decide, thought that was obvious lol. I bribed him.

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