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AgnesIO
30-12-2009, 01:08 PM
The thread that Jake posted about asking if people think it is too hard to become an astablished member on the forum brought up another topic.

Is reputation points far too hard to get?

Proposed changes agreed on by a few members have been:

1 rep point for:


1 year on the forum
2500 posts
400 rep given to you
Currently it is something like 5000 posts for 1 rep point, and got knows how many rep you need given to you for one point.

Anyway would you like to see rep points given to you, more easily?

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 01:09 PM
I would love to see it changed. What I saw from that thread was:
1 year on the forum : 2500 posts : 400 rep points.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 01:13 PM
Yes, I want it to change. However, I genuinely want it to change to aid newer members but still consider the older members who have built their reputation up. By this I mean, don't scrap the system but make it easier for newer members to get higher rep power which as if explained before gives them more of an identity which will hopefully make them stay around the forum for longer than they are doing.

AgnesIO
30-12-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes, I want it to change. However, I genuinely want it to change to aid newer members but still consider the older members who have built their reputation up. By this I mean, don't scrap the system but make it easier for newer members to get higher rep power which as if explained before gives them more of an identity which will hopefully make them stay around the forum for longer than they are doing.

Agreed,

Perhaps if new members start of 125 rep instead of 50 (I think that is what it's on now?)

Btw I made another thread Jake, so Jin and management could get a better, more accurate idea of who wants changes xD

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes, I want it to change. However, I genuinely want it to change to aid newer members but still consider the older members who have built their reputation up. By this I mean, don't scrap the system but make it easier for newer members to get higher rep power which as if explained before gives them more of an identity which will hopefully make them stay around the forum for longer than they are doing.
I originally joined HxF in 05, left because I found it hard to get rep/post count up. Joined again in late 06 and my post and rep count started going up and then went to a pretty high number and I've been around for 3 years and on the new account from having the high rep and post count I did find it hard starting again but because I knew the community I carried on with it but new members wouldnt.

Meanies
30-12-2009, 01:33 PM
It does need to be changed, and for that reason management are currently discussing the best way to change them :)

-:Undertaker:-
30-12-2009, 01:37 PM
I have no idea why it was changed in the first place, nearly everyone was against it yet the previous forum management pressed ahead with it as though it were a life or death situation, its almost like they were trying to annoy everyone.

Change it back. :)

Smits
30-12-2009, 01:46 PM
What did it used to be? I'm sure i ahd like 32 power at one time.

Jamesy
30-12-2009, 01:52 PM
I vote scrap, new system in place. I'm not a fan of it really.

Alex3213
30-12-2009, 01:54 PM
I vote scrap, new system in place. I'm not a fan of it really.

Yeah I'm not a fan of rep either, to me it doesn't really show me anything due to the fact every post is a new post, so previous posts may have been constructive whereas another one even with 1500 reputation could be a not so useful post.

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 01:56 PM
I dont get what you're trying to say there Alex :S

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 02:09 PM
The annoying factor is, one year for a reputation point is just right in my opinion, if you start lowering the post count for +1 reputation power then we go back to point where we were before with all the big posters having crazy powers. And then lowering the amount of rep you have received then gives the older members higher powers again. In some cases i don't see a problem with it as many have earned it and could help newer members if they use the system and so having higher points could be an advantage, although i would be annoyed if the system was scrapped after i worked my way through it for along time.

One of the only fair ways in my opinion if we want to make it easier for new members is to have someone go through and disadvantage the obvious abusers from the past.

Just to add, i agree with two of the points on the poll but i don't think it benefits the opinions of those who stand to loose allot of what they worked for if it was restarted.

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 02:14 PM
Maybe people with INSANE reputations should have their entire reputations picked at, like I said in the other thread, Nick- did it to me and removed 600/4200 rep and that wasn't going through all of it. Some people with like 8000/10000 rep would have alot of pointless rep.

jackass
30-12-2009, 02:22 PM
I think it should be...


1 Rep Power for every 1000 posts.
1 Rep Power for every year on the forum.
1 Rep power for every 500 rep points.

Hecktix
30-12-2009, 02:25 PM
1 year should stay
should be 1500 posts and 500 rep points

Seatherny
30-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Maybe people with INSANE reputations should have their entire reputations picked at, like I said in the other thread, Nick- did it to me and removed 600/4200 rep and that wasn't going through all of it. Some people with like 8000/10000 rep would have alot of pointless rep.
It will take a long time to do though.

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 02:28 PM
It will take a long time to do though.

I think that if it resettles the system and fairly, though people will complain, it is a worthy process. But only removing reputation that has been given purely to get each other higher.

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 02:32 PM
Im sure that with other forum administrators chipping in it would take a while but no were near as long as just Edan and Brandon doing it so ye, could be worth while if people are willing to do so?
Then, if the changes are made there should be stricter rules on pointless rep or atleast the rules properly enforced.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 02:39 PM
A lot of my reputation might have no comment but it was actually given for a post I helped somebody with or a good post I made. If you want to check then you'll have to go through every single post and then determine if it's rep worthy. A rep comment means nothing, I know sometimes I just put my name in a rep comment which would be seen as pointless but it's not because the user has helped me :)

-:Undertaker:-
30-12-2009, 02:40 PM
This thread is not about resetting reputation is it? - it shouldn't be reset, it should just be altered so its easier to get a higher reputation power faster. I earned mine and others earned theirs, infact I don't know why 'pointless' reputation is such a big issue, its just a green bar on a forum?

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 02:41 PM
A lot of my reputation might have no comment but it was actually given for a post I helped somebody with or a good post I made. If you want to check then you'll have to go through every single post and then determine if it's rep worthy. A rep comment means nothing, I know sometimes I just put my name in a rep comment which would be seen as pointless but it's not because the user has helped me :)

I have some like that so they would be checked against posts as to what reason they have been issued any rep.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 02:43 PM
If you put it to 1500 posts as has been proposed then that's far too low. Like Neversoft said the other day, it's easy to get 100 posts a day if you wanted to and participated in all the active topics. However, if it's much higher then I guess it's not really a challenge. Even if people do post to increase their rep power then so what? As long as it aids discussion then it's fine. Hard one really.

@ yoshi - have fun going through every single user and clicking every single comment :-) will only take 6 months or so.

buttons
30-12-2009, 03:04 PM
uh where's the:
"just keep it the same because it's fine as it is" option?

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 03:05 PM
"i do not care" will suffice and suggest you don't feel a change is necessary, else you'd care and choose another option

AgnesIO
30-12-2009, 03:06 PM
I didn't put it in as I thought the No's would cover that.

Like: I do not care about reputation.

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 03:07 PM
It wouldn't be every single user, it would have to be stereotyped and looked at in order of obvious abuse of the system along with other knowledge that is known surrounding the happenings of the system.

Seatherny
30-12-2009, 03:07 PM
The thread that Jake posted about asking if people think it is too hard to become an astablished member on the forum brought up another topic.

Is reputation points far too hard to get?

Proposed changes agreed on by a few members have been:

1 rep point for:


1 year on the forum
2500 posts
400 rep given to you
Currently it is something like 5000 posts for 1 rep point, and got knows how many rep you need given to you for one point.

Anyway would you like to see rep points given to you, more easily?

I think I agree with those three. 1 year - as I said, anniversary.
2500 posts will take a few months. Not too hard.
400 rep is hard to get but still its fair.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 03:11 PM
It wouldn't be every single user, it would have to be stereotyped and looked at in order of obvious abuse of the system along with other knowledge that is known surrounding the happenings of the system.

So not all members would be treated the same? Cool. Someone with 25 rep might have it all fairly yet they'd be looked at. However, someone with 3 could have got all of theirs pointlessly yet won't be examined. Nice fair way of going about it.

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 03:20 PM
Can you propose a better way of doing it? Lets put it this way, most people on the forum will have some form of rep comments that are not really for doing anything in particular but because they have been repped for who they are. People are repped for all sorts of reasons and that is fair enough, however in the past there was a crew of people who repped one another constantly with the limit per day being low and the user spread count also being low. This caused the system to be destroyed in terms of fairness and spoilt it for others.

Someone who has issued a few comments here and there may be slightly pointless or for a laugh is not destroying the system, those who have gone around and issued rep after rep on purpose has abused it. Nothing is ever 100% accurate in life and 100% going to please every single person but pleasing the majority is.


At the end of the day, if you haven't abused it then no one really has anything to worry about have they?

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 03:23 PM
Can you propose a better way of doing it? Lets put it this way, most people on the forum will have some form of rep comments that are not really for doing anything in particular but because they have been repped for who they are. People are repped for all sorts of reasons and that is fair enough, however in the past there was a crew of people who repped one another constantly with the limit per day being low and the user spread count also being low. This caused the system to be destroyed in terms of fairness and spoilt it for others.

Someone who has issued a few comments here and there may be slightly pointless or for a laugh is not destroying the system, those who have gone around and issued rep after rep on purpose has abused it. Nothing is ever 100% accurate in life and 100% going to please every single person but pleasing the majority is.


At the end of the day, if you haven't abused it then no one really has anything to worry about have they?

Nope, I'm not even remotely concerned. I just believe it's a criminal waste of time for Administrators to do that when they're moaning about how busy they are (note your sig and a post you made last week). However, if you feel it's constructive then that's up to you, you're the admin ;)

The group of people are the KKK who all repped each other, they're not going to kill you for saying it btw, lol. Like Jin said a few months back all changes have to make sure old members are happy because they are the spine of this site but ensure it's welcoming for new users. If you believe it's the best way to treat your old members and they're going to be happy with it then that's entirely up to you.

Vonko
30-12-2009, 03:24 PM
I think it should be easeir to get it. Newer members won't carry on using the forum if they know they have to try years just to get atleast rep power: 6 or something.

Yoshimitsui
30-12-2009, 03:32 PM
It would be time consuming, but so is many things in order to keep sites and forums running, and with it being an issue that keeps cropping up in discussion something has to be done about it. So im only prodding at suggestions as i do agree its very hard for new members to enter the reputation system, something that is scarily looked so highly at on the forum. And so i believe it's off putting for the newer people. In order to make changes to the system again whatever happens there's going to be what, a 50/50 positive and negative reaction in both opinions and actions.

It may just be something that has to be lived with if the requirements are reduced for some members to have massive counts, but who knows what will happen if it goes similar to before, like i said it's the only (reasonably) fair way (in my opinion) to stabilise it. If you have better ideas then please do say.

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 03:39 PM
It would be time consuming, but so is many things in order to keep sites and forums running, and with it being an issue that keeps cropping up in discussion something has to be done about it. So im only prodding at suggestions as i do agree its very hard for new members to enter the reputation system, something that is scarily looked so highly at on the forum. And so i believe it's off putting for the newer people. In order to make changes to the system again whatever happens there's going to be what, a 50/50 positive and negative reaction in both opinions and actions.

It may just be something that has to be lived with if the requirements are reduced for some members to have massive counts, but who knows what will happen if it goes similar to before, like i said it's the only (reasonably) fair way (in my opinion) to stabilise it. If you have better ideas then please do say.

Well seeing as I got this reviewed and have posted my ideas already, which I think is better than wasting time by looking through every single comment for the last 3 years, 5 years in some cases. It has to be changed for new members but nothing major else we'll face the same issue as before. I have already posted what I think it should be altered too in the original thread I created based on this topic.

Alkaz
30-12-2009, 04:44 PM
It would probably be better just to scrap the thing from the way this thread is going. Get rid of it and re-introduce or it have some other system would seem best.

Caution
30-12-2009, 05:27 PM
Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over rep? It doesn't mean anything anyway, considering you could buy it not long ago. Just leave it as it is.

Chippiewill
30-12-2009, 05:59 PM
Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape over rep? It doesn't mean anything anyway, considering you could buy it not long ago. Just leave it as it is.

It's fine for you with your precious 7 rep power but people like me with just 3 have to suffer.

joshuar
30-12-2009, 06:00 PM
With the amount of high post counts on this forum, I'd suggest a higher post count limit of around 3k-4k for a rep power.

Scrapping it will just upset members and that's REALLY not needed at this time with the declining popularity of the forum.

jackass
30-12-2009, 07:26 PM
With the amount of high post counts on this forum, I'd suggest a higher post count limit of around 3k-4k for a rep power.

Scrapping it will just upset members and that's REALLY not needed at this time with the declining popularity of the forum.

But most people have low post counts, seeing as there are new members.

You really think some of these new members are going to get to 4000 posts just to get ONE rep power?!

EDIT; What's with all your stars?!?!?!

Chippiewill
30-12-2009, 07:30 PM
With the amount of high post counts on this forum, I'd suggest a higher post count limit of around 3k-4k for a rep power.

Scrapping it will just upset members and that's REALLY not needed at this time with the declining popularity of the forum.

We're focusing on new members, not the old ones. Habbox is in decline and we are looking towards the younger newer user base.

Inseriousity.
30-12-2009, 07:44 PM
I think it needs to change! What to though, I have no clue as reputation has never really interested me when I join a forum (although I have to admit that I do miss it when on invisionfree forums).

As for rep prizes in competitions (I think it was mentioned in here), we're going to be looking to do this. :)

Immenseman
30-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Well it's great that Sammeth. is on board with some of the changes and he's the new main man so hopefully we'll see some progress asap :)

GommeInc
30-12-2009, 09:49 PM
Not fussed, if it was scrapped I wouldn't particularly care. Just having the comments, or a like/dislike feature would be useful. Rep got destroyed when they offered it out to VIPs and it didn't help that the system got pointlessly edited.

Special
30-12-2009, 10:05 PM
Needs a new system, its unfair as it stands

FlyingJesus
30-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Maybe people with INSANE reputations should have their entire reputations picked at, like I said in the other thread, Nick- did it to me and removed 600/4200 rep and that wasn't going through all of it. Some people with like 8000/10000 rep would have alot of pointless rep.

Personally I don't think any reputation at all should be considered pointless, whether positive or negative. The word itself clearly refers to how others view you, so someone simply having a distaste for the person is still really as valid a reason to -rep them as any other, because it's indicative of that person's reputation.


Can you propose a better way of doing it? Lets put it this way, most people on the forum will have some form of rep comments that are not really for doing anything in particular but because they have been repped for who they are.

The "better way" would be not at all. I know you're an intelligent guy but I think you've really tripped up here - as you said yourself people have been repped for who they are, and that is quite clearly the single most valid reason for reputation to be given. Reputation is how a person is viewed as I've said above, and saying this can't be the case is like saying I'm not allowed to show my high opinion of someone because they're my friend. It truly defies logic.


People are repped for all sorts of reasons and that is fair enough, however in the past there was a crew of people who repped one another constantly with the limit per day being low and the user spread count also being low.

To be fair we only did that for like 2 days lol I think we gained maybe 1 rep power apiece from it :P


Nope, I'm not even remotely concerned. I just believe it's a criminal waste of time for Administrators to do that when they're moaning about how busy they are (note your sig and a post you made last week). However, if you feel it's constructive then that's up to you, you're the admin ;)

The group of people are the KKK who all repped each other, they're not going to kill you for saying it btw, lol. Like Jin said a few months back all changes have to make sure old members are happy because they are the spine of this site but ensure it's welcoming for new users. If you believe it's the best way to treat your old members and they're going to be happy with it then that's entirely up to you.

tbh I was thinking of getting Smiddy out of hibernation for an assassination attempt. But yeah I quite openly admit that it happened, albeit not to the extent some people seem to think it did, and I've stated my reasons as to why I don't feel it's a bad thing.


Needs a new system, its unfair as it stands

Would you care to explain why? I don't wish to say that you can't hold such an opinion but in the interests of the thread it might be an idea to actually give reasons so that your opinion can be assessed.

AgnesIO
31-12-2009, 10:02 AM
This thread clearly shows at the moment that people would like to get rep points more often for posts and the amount of reputation they have.

Keep it going a little longer :)

Lee
31-12-2009, 09:36 PM
I think the way it used to be was fine. Either change it back or introduce the "Thanks" system is my suggestions?

The Professor
01-01-2010, 12:52 PM
This thread clearly shows at the moment that people would like to get rep points more often for posts and the amount of reputation they have.

Keep it going a little longer :)

To me that says *Bump*

Again no replies from anyone in a position to do anything about it!

AgnesIO
01-01-2010, 02:54 PM
To me that says *Bump*

Again no replies from anyone in a position to do anything about it!

No need to bump it is still/was still pretty high on the list :P

Would be interesting to see AGM's thoughts on the general users votes.

Arch
01-01-2010, 07:17 PM
I've only read the first page so if its been posted my bad,
I don't think post count should influence your rep beacuse it has nothing to do with it. I think 5000 is fine even though its high it still shoulndt affect you getting rep because i could just spam. You shouldn't have a high rep because you have alot of posts

AgnesIO
01-01-2010, 07:21 PM
I've only read the first page so if its been posted my bad,
I don't think post count should influence your rep beacuse it has nothing to do with it. I think 5000 is fine even though its high it still shoulndt affect you getting rep because i could just spam. You shouldn't have a high rep because you have alot of posts

Although I agree with what you are saying, currently the forum is not getting as many posts as it was, so a influence to post more often would help. Also moderators are there to stop any spammers :)

Sammeth.
02-01-2010, 02:29 AM
I think a change in the system is needed, but its just striking a balance to giving it a kick that it needs rather than just rendering it pointless thats proving difficult. I think its the post count which is making it especially difficult, as if we put it too low people with high post counts would end up with stupidly high rep power. It might be worth just reducing the other limits and keeping the post count one the same or not changing it too much.

Richie
02-01-2010, 02:31 AM
I think the ideas you posted are great, but anything stupid and too easy to earn rep points will be just ridiculous.

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 02:33 AM
I agree to an extent but I think post is the biggest thing putting people off. When you start 5000 posts is a long long way away. I mean you're GM and don't even have 5K, it's far too daunting for new members. I don't see why older users who have high posts counts should stop you from altering it - you should be rewarding people for their activity. I know it's fine for me to say this when I have one of the highest post counts on the board but that's just my opinion. If you change the amount of reputation points it's exactly the same as changing the amount of posts anyway? The people with high reputation points will go up loads. In fact, I think it'll be worse if points change too much and posts not at all because there are huge differences in some rep points but no big difference between the higher post counts. It'd just be a very select few if there were dramatic changes to rep points because there are thousands of points separating the top few.

Richie
02-01-2010, 02:45 AM
I agree to an extent but I think post is the biggest thing putting people off. When you start 5000 posts is a long long way away. I mean you're GM and don't even have 5K, it's far too daunting for new members. I don't see why older users who have high posts counts should scrap you from altering it because you should be rewarding people for their activity. I know it's fine for me to say this with one of the highest post counts on the board but that's just my opinion. If you change the amount of reputation points it's exactly the same? The people with high points will go up loads. In fact, I think it'll be worse if points change too much and posts not at all because there are huge differences in some rep points but no big difference between the higher post counts.


I agree I don't think it would be fair to just scrap it, but I don't want people to get rep points for stupid things if you get me?

leah
02-01-2010, 02:58 AM
yeah it's too hard to get a rep point.

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 03:29 AM
Cheers Leah we wouldn't have known if you hadn't mentioned it.

On the topic of whether post count or rep points should be lowered, I think rep points needs to be the main reason to have higher rep power as it's obviously a reward of the system itself and how people rate you rather than just general use of the forum which *coughkylecough* can be stacked up far too easily sometimes and isn't a real indicator of how much you're actually respected. 5000 is a very large amount but I think halving it would be too far really. Perhaps lower post count requirement to 4000 per, as that's still a fairly large percentage cut.

Black_Apalachi
02-01-2010, 07:13 AM
My answer to the question; 'Would you like reputation to change?' is yes, but that poll is shockingly one-sided so my answer to the thread is no. I'm quite happy having to earn my reputation. If changes were made to make it a lot easier so that everyone had really high rep powers, my answer to this poll would become 'scrap reputation altogether'.

The only change I would like to see regarding reputation is the amount that has to be spread before you can rep someone again.

Blinger1
02-01-2010, 07:47 AM
The only change I would like to see regarding reputation is the amount that has to be spread before you can rep someone again.
I agree. I hate having to spread rep to 50 different people before I can rep the same person again. Maybe have it, if you don't rep enough people in a month (or so) then you can re-rep that person?

AgnesIO
02-01-2010, 10:53 AM
I think a change in the system is needed, but its just striking a balance to giving it a kick that it needs rather than just rendering it pointless thats proving difficult. I think its the post count which is making it especially difficult, as if we put it too low people with high post counts would end up with stupidly high rep power. It might be worth just reducing the other limits and keeping the post count one the same or not changing it too much.


To be honest though say I had 15,000 posts in 11 months and let's say 50 rep (this would mean only posts affect my points).

15,000 posts atm = 3 rep points.
15,000 if changed to 3,000 = 5 rep points.

Not much of a difference.

---

As a new member if they see they have no rep points and then find out they will only get one/two in about a year because of the ridiculously high factors you need, they will give up trying to get it.

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 02:01 PM
Yeah, I agree with Tom, change post count and points but only posts to something which isn't so daunting but isn't too low, 3500 or something.

Sammeth.
02-01-2010, 05:29 PM
The changes have been implemented and I don't envisage them changing again to anything lower any time in the future, so we'll see how this goes.

jackass
02-01-2010, 05:30 PM
Yay, thanks for the changes! :D

I still think it should be this though...


400 points is too low, it should be 500.
4000 posts is too high, it should be 2500.
30 people to spread is still too high, should be 20.
1 year is fine.

Thanks though, better than the way it was! :8

EDIT; Just read the above post, ah well, still good!

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 05:30 PM
Cool, link anybody or what are they?

Alex3213
02-01-2010, 05:35 PM
It's 400 points per
4000 posts per
1 year per

+30 people before you can rep the same people

I think they're all pretty suitable, maybe posts is slightly too high, but other than that, fine :). Glad they got implemented fast.

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 05:37 PM
Yeah, it's much better. Well done to Sam for acting on it quickly also. Refreshing to see somebody who listens and doesn't discuss it for at least 8 months.

Gibs960
02-01-2010, 05:39 PM
Yes, I want it to change. However, I genuinely want it to change to aid newer members but still consider the older members who have built their reputation up. By this I mean, don't scrap the system but make it easier for newer members to get higher rep power which as if explained before gives them more of an identity which will hopefully make them stay around the forum for longer than they are doing.

I agree, if say for example me, I wouldn't expect me to have tonnes of Rep, but I would expect someone who had been on the forum for 3 years to have a reasonable ammount of rep, and I think it should change, but not dramatically, by that I mean, I don't want it to be, 1 rep = 10 posts it would be pointless, I think there should be a reward for startin threads, like 100 threads started, = 1 rep, because I think thread starters are harder to write, and therefore should have more of a reward. But I think it should be 500 posts = 1 rep, or maybe a tiny bit higher, I don't think it should be like 1,000 posts because, some people leave a forum or get bored before they do that many posts and I think, we should run on a points system, well people add to your rep, you should get 10 points and 200 poins = 1 rep, but I don't think Rep, should go up loads. But also I think people should stop givin rep for nothing. Just my opinion

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 05:43 PM
YES NOW TO TAKE OVER THE FORUM WITH REP POWER.

Or something like that. Anyway good show people putting across good arguments and of course that gaylord who put it in place

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 05:46 PM
Who has the highest and what is it? They are in my sights ;l Still Neversoft?

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 05:52 PM
Chris has 38, Shane has 31, but they both buy rep

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 05:53 PM
kk just have to work on overtaking you first then

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 05:55 PM
8k rep irl

Ben has 30 power but he sold his account to Kyle for a bit so prob also has rep that was bought on it so I'm still claiming king ;|

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 05:57 PM
*only just gone past 7k* :(

what about marc

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 06:02 PM
Dunno is he banned or something he's not on the list

http://www.habboxforum.com/memberlist.php?order=DESC&sort=reputation&pp=30

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 06:15 PM
oh he has disabled his rep

AgnesIO
02-01-2010, 06:28 PM
Fit.

Didn't impact my rep at all, although v soon it will. :)

jackass
02-01-2010, 06:34 PM
Why is mine so low, I have a lot of rep and have been a member for over 4 years now. :(

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 06:37 PM
It's not low, 15 is pretty good. How many points do you have? Also you only have 1 power for your posts some people have 3/4. Some even 5 :O!

Sammeth.
02-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Im guessing you have around 4,000 rep as your posts and registration would give you 5 rep power. 15 isnt low at all.

jackass
02-01-2010, 06:39 PM
It's not low, 15 is pretty good. How many points do you have? Also you only have 1 power for your posts some people have 3/4. Some even 5 :O!

4000, well, 3937. And yeah, this is 4 years worth of posts, it should be brought down to at LEAST 2500!

EDIT; Yeah, but compared with people like Neversoft with 38 rep power... xD

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 06:41 PM
2500 would give spammers like me too much power. Although it would encourage people to post but then they're not posting for the right reason and would spam. It was decided although it may keep people it's not worth all the spam which is fair enough. I think 3500 is more appropriate but then it's not a nice round number :(

AgnesIO
02-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Congrats on the victory everyone ;)

jackass
02-01-2010, 07:25 PM
2500 would give spammers like me too much power. Although it would encourage people to post but then they're not posting for the right reason and would spam. It was decided although it may keep people it's not worth all the spam which is fair enough. I think 3500 is more appropriate but then it's not a nice round number :(

Yeah, but 2500 is a HELL of a lot of spam, and it takes a very long time for members to even get to 1000 posts, let alone 2.5x that. :P

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 07:32 PM
Yeah but like Neversoft said the other day if you wanted 100 posts a day without spamming, that's easy. With spamming you could get to at least 150 per day and then people will realise how easy it is to move up and spam until they get to 2.5k and then more and more but I acknowledge what you're saying. I think it's pretty much in the balance with regards to pros and cons but it has come down from 5k which is better than nothing :P

Chippiewill
02-01-2010, 07:38 PM
Yeah but like Neversoft said the other day if you wanted 100 posts a day without spamming, that's easy. With spamming you could get to at least 150 per day and then people will realise how easy it is to move up and spam until they get to 2.5k and then more and more but I acknowledge what you're saying. I think it's pretty much in the balance with regards to pros and cons but it has come down from 5k which is better than nothing :P

A couple of years ago I managed to get 100 posts in one hour. Although it would be great if they reduced it to perhaps '3,357'

leah
02-01-2010, 07:40 PM
I like the new rep change but for some reason it feels slack LOL

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 07:41 PM
Forum was more active a couple of years ago or maybe that's just me pretending it was great when I was staff.

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 07:51 PM
I like the new rep change but for some reason it feels slack LOL

Like you after a couple of drinks irl

Neversoft
02-01-2010, 08:13 PM
Who has the highest and what is it? They are in my sights ;l Still Neversoft?

soz xoxoxox


Chris has 38, Shane has 31, but they both buy rep

Not this again! If buying VIP is buying rep then you're guilty of the same charges, even though you don't claim yours. :eusa_naug

Also you called me Chris ahahahahlolololool

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 08:14 PM
coming 2 get ya tbh...

Kyle
02-01-2010, 08:15 PM
wow i got an extra power from the new change how AMAZING.......

FlyingJesus
02-01-2010, 08:41 PM
Not this again! If buying VIP is buying rep then you're guilty of the same charges, even though you don't claim yours. :eusa_naug

Also you called me Chris ahahahahlolololool

Obv not guilty if I don't use it lol and woops typo sorry Chirs

Titch
02-01-2010, 08:51 PM
changes are ok, still think post count should be lower though, 4k posts in hardly encouraging new members, i been here 3 years and ant even got tht.

Sammeth.
02-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Might encourage people to make more interesting posts and that.

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 09:25 PM
The same amount of people wanted changes to rep points as they did to post count yet points were cut by a third and posts by a fifth. Cuts are better than no cuts, it's still hard for new members but not as hard and 400 points is more achievable now especially with the higher rep counts. Me and Tom could rep the same person in the same day and that would be 1/8th of their way to a new power, which is good :8

leah
02-01-2010, 09:34 PM
The same amount of people wanted changes to rep points as they did to post count yet points were cut by a third and posts by a fifth. Cuts are better than no cuts, it's still hard for new members but not as hard and 400 points is more achievable now especially with the higher rep counts. Me and Tom could rep the same person in the same day and that would be 1/8th of their way to a new power, which is good :8

oh aren't you cool ;l

400 is much more achievable and it's good to see you making some changes sam, especially after asking people for their opinions first :)

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 09:43 PM
11 lol!!

Chippiewill
02-01-2010, 09:45 PM
The same amount of people wanted changes to rep points as they did to post count yet points were cut by a third and posts by a fifth. Cuts are better than no cuts, it's still hard for new members but not as hard and 400 points is more achievable now especially with the higher rep counts. Me and Tom could rep the same person in the same day and that would be 1/8th of their way to a new power, which is good :8

-hint hint-

Immenseman
02-01-2010, 09:45 PM
I only repped you the other day!!

AgnesIO
02-01-2010, 10:01 PM
I only repped you the other day!!

If it's going would mind a rep maself ;)

Cnsidering when my 11months VIP comes though I will be 10 rep off another rep power xx

Sammeth.
02-01-2010, 11:16 PM
Obviously no one would publicly directly or indirectly ask for rep in this forum as its against the rules, and no one would be silly enough to do it in the forum feedback forum where a lot of management look....coughhintsplutter

AgnesIO
03-01-2010, 11:05 AM
Obviously no one would publicly directly or indirectly ask for rep in this forum as its against the rules, and no one would be silly enough to do it in the forum feedback forum where a lot of management look....coughhintsplutter

Ite Sam can Ihave some rep please. xD

It's ok, Jake +repped me for my fantastic contribution to the forum over the last few years (3 years in 1 days!!!!!!!!)

coughsplutter

GommeInc
03-01-2010, 12:45 PM
I think a change in the system is needed, but its just striking a balance to giving it a kick that it needs rather than just rendering it pointless thats proving difficult. I think its the post count which is making it especially difficult, as if we put it too low people with high post counts would end up with stupidly high rep power. It might be worth just reducing the other limits and keeping the post count one the same or not changing it too much.
Does it necessarily need to take post counts into account? Perhaps after a few hundred/thousand, you could just ignore the post count and have it focus on years of membership and rep points earned.

FlyingJesus
03-01-2010, 01:47 PM
oh aren't you cool ;l

lol what you gonna do take off 5 rep from him :S


Does it necessarily need to take post counts into account? Perhaps after a few hundred/thousand, you could just ignore the post count and have it focus on years of membership and rep points earned.

With it being 4000 still I think it's low enough for it not to be a problem really, I personally agree that post count shouldn't really be an issue with reputation as some people with high post counts have been hated universally (what up Jamie) but as it is atm I think it's still fair and who knows might get people wanting to post again now that rep is actually worth something again

The Professor
03-01-2010, 02:35 PM
changes are ok, still think post count should be lower though, 4k posts in hardly encouraging new members, i been here 3 years and ant even got tht.

Post more then.

The thing thats annoying me is the 10 reps per day thing. I wanna rep everyone who posts in a thread I posted (encouraging the forum to be active yknow) and im now a full page (40 posts) behind cos i can only rep 10 people a day "/

FlyingJesus
03-01-2010, 02:56 PM
Any more and it would be a bit mental tbh, even 10 is quite a few like I could be giving out 260 rep a day and Chirs could do 380 if he had any friends, been nearly doubled so having more to give would probably be overkill

The Professor
03-01-2010, 03:01 PM
Spose the theory is those with massive rep powers deserve to give out loads of rep cos they've earnt it

jackass
03-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Here's a thought... maybe, depending on what usergroup you're in (such as Bronze, Silver, Gold stars etc.), the more people you can rep per day, and the less people you have to spread for.

So...

Bronze;


Spread rep 40 times
Rep max 4 people per day

Silver;


Spread rep 35 times
Rep max 6 people per day

Gold;


Spread rep 30 times
Rep max 8 people per day

etc.

Maybe not those exact figures - but just a thought!

AgnesIO
03-01-2010, 04:40 PM
lol what you gonna do take off 5 rep from him :S



With it being 4000 still I think it's low enough for it not to be a problem really, I personally agree that post count shouldn't really be an issue with reputation as some people with high post counts have been hated universally (what up Jamie) but as it is atm I think it's still fair and who knows might get people wanting to post again now that rep is actually worth something again

I like Jamie..

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Bio I like those ideas tbh. Sounds good :)

le harry
04-01-2010, 02:21 PM
KKK unite together and rep kgo.

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