FA cup

[Bun]

yeye who you got etc? got city at home, as bad as we are i fancy our chances, mind you i always do. :eusa_wall

[adaym]

postponed. :rolleyes:

anyway:

Ipswich, Man City, Barnsley, Burnley, Derby, Brighton returns £1,124.17

Southampton, Portsmouth, Liverpool, Newcastle, Aston Villa returns £50.82

K.Nolan, A.Johnson, R.Fuller, R.Santa Cruz, S.Cox, E.Heskey all anytimes returns £989.27

[Geraint]

we were meant to be playing bristol city but the weather put a stop to that.

[Tash.]

Reading v Liverpool

I want to be confident, but who knows what sort of team Rafa will put out and even if it's our strongest who knows what performance we'll get. Very unpredictable right now, I just hope we win, don't really want to be out of the FA Cup too.

[Geraint]

Reading are **** and if you lose to them Rafa has to go.

[Tash.]

Reading are **** and if you lose to them Rafa has to go.

I know, I will be deeply embarassed if we lose to a Reading team which are 20th in the championship. Thing is, if Rafa goes, who is going to replace him? Don't let it be someone like Hughes, I can't stand the guy.

[Shockwave.2CC]

We got Swansea City at Home

Leicester City vs Swansea City

[Browney]

I know, I will be deeply embarassed if we lose to a Reading team which are 20th in the championship. Thing is, if Rafa goes, who is going to replace him? Don't let it be someone like Hughes, I can't stand the guy.

Megson? ;)

[Geraint]

We got Swansea City at Home

Leicester City vs Swansea City


Lose please, no being serious now, lose.

[leah]

we have scum away, typical!

[Jibbish]

we have blackburn at home

[adaym]

1 winning 5 drawing.

[Immenseman]

plymouth gna knock newcastle out :D

[adaym]

3 winning 3 drawing.

[Tash.]

Gutted for York at the moment v Stoke, go ahead to be behind 2-1, 3 minutes later. Delap and those long throws doing for them twice :( Hopefully they can overturn that but Stoke are good at home. Waiting to see the Liverpool team for today with bated breath, if Voronin plays I despair.

[Arron]

I know, I will be deeply embarassed if we lose to a Reading team which are 20th in the championship. Thing is, if Rafa goes, who is going to replace him? Don't let it be someone like Hughes, I can't stand the guy.

if you hang on to Rafa till the end of the season, then Jose Mourinho might pop along, he said he wanted to manage in the EPL next season.

But saying that Fergie might retire if he wins the PL, so Mourinho could take over for United (:

[Immenseman]

people forget how boring mourinhos football was

at least with liverpool, united and arsenal the football is usually pretty good. mourinho will probably get one of those jobs but meh his football with chelsea was crap. sure he got results and was successful but meh.

[Tash.]

if you hang on to Rafa till the end of the season, then Jose Mourinho might pop along, he said he wanted to manage in the EPL next season.

But saying that Fergie might retire if he wins the PL, so Mourinho could take over for United (:

I'd happily have Mourinho but honestly I can't see it happening if Rafa was to go, I don't know why he would want to when we don't have money to spend like MU.

Just seen the Liverpool team and it's pretty much a first team, thankfully. Little bit scared of Torres playing though, don't want him injured for Spurs next week :(

Liverpool: Reina, Darby, Carragher, Skrtel, Insua, Kuyt, Gerrard, Lucas, Aurelio, Ngog, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Spearing, Degen.

[Immenseman]

well rafa did say it's ya best chance of silverware so won't be taking it lightly.

[Tash.]

well rafa did say it's ya best chance of silverware so won't be taking it lightly.

It is yeah, but also we need to be in the top 4, and one of the teams keeping us out of it atm is Spurs who we have next week. We need a fit Torres for that, he's currently not completely injury free.. playing him here might be a bit risky.

[luce]

we have scum away, typical!

how is that typical, it's a random cup draw. The only thing typical about it is that you're going to loose again to any half decent opposition you come up against.


if you hang on to Rafa till the end of the season, then Jose Mourinho might pop along, he said he wanted to manage in the EPL next season.

But saying that Fergie might retire if he wins the PL, so Mourinho could take over for United (:

The only english club Mourinho will manage in England is United he has said this time and time again :)

I think Alex will go when he wins the PL again or maybe at the end of this season if he doesn't because he may accept it's time to move on i think he'd rather go out on high as a hero then as the manager who over stayed his welcome.

[adaym]

big lulz.

[Immenseman]

would like to see reading win this, on top so far and 1-0 up

[-Heart]

Tranmere away tomorrow.

6.15pm kick off :rolleyes:.

[Dan2nd]

Reading 1 - 1 Liverpool at least we didn't lose for once lol

[Immenseman]

Reading dominated, Liverpool only really had one spell of pressure, it seemed like most of the game was in the Liverpool half.

[luce]

Reading dominated, Liverpool only really had one spell of pressure, it seemed like most of the game was in the Liverpool half.

yeah at the end of the first half? It was a good game to watch because you really wanted Reading to score again :P I don't have too much hope for them though at Liverpool :)

[Immenseman]

I think both sides would be happy with the draw though. It looked like Liverpool wanted the draw in the last 10 minutes really and Reading would've taken a draw before the game started :P but yeah Liverpool should win at Anfield.

[leah]

how is that typical, it's a random cup draw. The only thing typical about it is that you're going to loose again to any half decent opposition you come up against.


It is typical because if you bothered to look at the facts instead of talk complete nonsense you'd realise that MU seem to always be drawn against lower league teams until the later stages of the FA/Carling cup.

"you're going to lose again to any half decent opposition"... Pardon? Again? we've lost twice all season, once was to Liverpool (who we had a goal disallowed against) and the other was to Millwall. Think you've lost more times than that and it wasn't even the 'decent opposition' you're preaching about. Burnley? Fulham? oh dear.

You appear to be forgetting that Leeds are two leagues below MU, we have less experienced and talented players and less money to spend, how you can honestly compare the sides like that is completely and utterly unjust. Also we're actually dominating the league we're in, and we're doing well. The decent opposition in OUR league have been beaten by us and that's why we're set for promotion, and you can only fairly compare us to the better teams in the league we're in, at least for the moment anyway.

[Immenseman]

I hope you're joking, you genuinely believe that the FA Cup draw is fixed? I've heard it all now.

[Jibbish]

It is typical because if you bothered to look at the facts instead of talk complete nonsense you'd realise that MU seem to always be drawn against lower league teams until the later stages of the FA/Carling cup.
No man u always seems to be drawn again aston villa early lmaooo :D

[Immenseman]

I was waiting for her to reply and was going to tell her unless I'm mistaken that United have been draw against a top 6 maybe even soon to be a top 4 side twice in the last three seasons in the first round they enter. I'm pretty sure they had Villa this time last year and Villa the time before. SO RIGGED!!11

[Grainger@CUFC]

Absolutely brilliant performance today, made me very proud to be a Carlisle fan. 6000 of us singing our hearts out for 90 minutes while the Everton fans didn't seem to utter a word in song :$ We played very well and the 3-1 result definitely flattered Everton - we made one mistake that gave them a goal, a goal that came from what should have been a free kick to us as well as a penalty so I think we made a good account of ourselves overall. Ref bottled sending Fellaini off as well, the general consensus was that he ruined the game for us :( a lot of us thought one challenge in the second half could have easily been a straight red yet no foul was given :S

Aside from the result, it was a great day out and I'd say that all 6000 of us can be very pleased with the performance and the team spirit that we carried with us.

[leah]

I hope you're joking, you genuinely believe that the FA Cup draw is fixed? I've heard it all now.

I'm sorry, I might need to reread my post, because I don't remember writing that? Oh wait, I didn't! I suggest you comment on what you read not on your own daft assumptions, immenseman. ;l

Generally MU get easy games, not saying it's fixed at all, i'm just saying they're lucky most of the time when it comes to the FA/Carling cup.

[Immenseman]

Which is why as I've already explained they've played a top 6 side in their first round (third round) two years in a row, lol. Then Spurs another top 6 side in the 4th round. Also, like Adam had to tell you earlier - luck does not exist.

[leah]

Which is why as I've already explained they've played a top 6 side in their first round (third round) two years in a row, lol. Then Spurs another top 6 side in the 4th round. Also, like Adam had to tell you earlier - luck does not exist.

Yeah those are a few instances, I didn't say they had lower league teams ALL of the time, again you're not reading what i've said and you're coming to your own conclusions. But there have been numerous occasions where MU have been drawn at home against lower league opposition.
Luck does exist, some teams are quite lucky, if they're playing rubbish and then score near the end of the game to snatch the 3 points it's seen as lucky.

[Immenseman]

I'm going on numerous years. They had Southampton in the 3rd round, they are a big club at the same time Chelsea had Southend. They have Leeds this time around which again are a big club. You can't say it without proof, sure they have some small teams but no more than the other big clubs. You're allowing your dislike for a certain club to disillusion your sense of reality whereas I am being totally unbiased and providing you with evidence and therefore proof that they're not drawn against smaller sides more than anybody else.

[Tash.]

I am going to have to agree with Leaahh here, MU do always seem to end up with what is considered to be an 'easier' route in the early stages, and not just in the FA Cup, and i'm not just talking about the teams they get. Often they are at home which is also considered to be an advantage. I aren't saying it's fixed, it's just that MU appear to have an easy route through to the quarters/semis of most competitions.

As for Liverpool, another nervous game. I'm glad we didn't lose but honestly we have to play better.. it's getting stupid. I can't personally see how getting rid of Rafa would help this, he's chosen a team to win, he's sent Torres out with a strike partner (like pundits have all said he should do) and yet the performance is still lacklustre.

[Immenseman]

*i'm just going to post without actually looking at the draws from previous years*+*

[leah]

I'm going on numerous years. They had Southampton in the 3rd round, they are a big club at the same time Chelsea had Southend. They have Leeds this time around which again are a big club. You can't say it without proof, sure they have some small teams but no more than the other big clubs. You're allowing your dislike for a certain club to disillusion your sense of reality whereas I am being totally unbiased and providing you with evidence and therefore proof that they're not drawn against smaller sides more than anybody else.

It doesn't matter if they're a big club, they're still a lower league club which was my original point. Why are you bringing chelsea into this? we're talking about Manchester united, not chelsea. You accuse me of "allowing my dislike for a certain club to disillusion my sense of reality" when you're doing the same by bringing chelsea into the matter.

You've given me two occasions when you were drawn against teams in the same league as you, thats not enough evidence to disprove my point at all. I'm sure Barnsley in the first draw for this years Carling cup was also a hard game

[Immenseman]

I've given you four teams that United have been drawn against in the third round who have won the FA cup. Villa twice, Southampton and Leeds - this is the last four years, unless I'm mistaken. I'm not doing the same thing as you, I was bringing in another club to support my factual evidence - something you haven't provided. May I ask what other side has drawn winners of the cup in the first round four years in a row? When they knocked out Villa, they played Spurs, wow another top 6!! They've also played Spurs in the carling cup. I am merely proving to you with facts that united don't get a "lucky" or "favourable" draw in the slightest. Unless you want to back your point up with some proof they're favoured all the time then that'd be more than welcome.

[leah]

I've given you four teams that United have been drawn against in the third round who have won the FA cup. Villa twice, Southampton and Leeds - this is the last four years, unless I'm mistaken. I'm not doing the same thing as you, I was bringing in another club to support my factual evidence - something you haven't provided. May I ask what other side has drawn winners of the cup in the first round four years in a row? When they knocked out Villa, they played Spurs, wow another top 6!! They've also played Spurs in the carling cup. I am merely proving to you with facts that united don't get a "lucky" or "favourable" draw in the slightest. Unless you want to back your point up with some proof they're favoured all the time then that'd be more than welcome.

Yeah they were drawn against spurs, in the QUATER FINAL of the Carling Cup, after having Barnsley as their game before the Quater final stages... Aren't Barnsley a lower league side? and after beating them they were suddenly in the quater finals, my point was that MU often get drawn against LOWER LEAGUE opposition and by doing so get though to the further stages of the cups. This proves my point in this scenario at least does it not?

You've given me two sides who are in the same league as MU, well done. That's two sides to represent your argument when these cups have been going on for years. Thats two out of how many games they've actually played in these competitions?

You've also tried to use Leeds and Southampton as evidence to back up your point that they don't get lower league opposition in the early stages? hold on a minute... aren't Leeds and Southamption both two leagues below MU? They may have won the FA cup back along, but that was when they were in higher leagues with stronger teams, you can't compare their old winning teams to their current teams. The fact that you're using two lower league clubs amongst your "evidence" that MU don't get drawn against lower league clubs in the early stages of the FA/Carling cup is an embarassment in itself.

[Immenseman]

OK, let me go back in the last decade. I will do this with United and another top four club, Arsenal and prove to you United have no better draw than any other side. Arsenal was randomly chosen. I will just do the third draw else it would take hours.

Here goes...

00-01 season
United - Fulham
Arsenal - Carlisle

01-02 season
United - Aston Villa
Arsenal - Watford

02-03 season
United - Portsmouth
Arsenal - Oxford

03-04
United - Villa
Arsenal - Leeds

04-05
United - Exeter
Arsenal - Stoke

05-06
United - Burton
Arsenal - Cardiff

06-07
United - Villa
Arsenal - Liverpool

07-08
United - Villa
Arsenal - Burnley

08-09
United - Southampton
Arsenal - argyle

09-10
United - leeds
Arsenal - west ham

Now, this doesn't prove that they don't get lower league sides but it does prove that you're being biased. Six out of the 10 years they had premier league opposition, is that the lower league draws you are talking about? Point proven. With Southampton and Leeds, they are big clubs with proud cup history, clearly you don't understand that. A lower league "favoured" draw is a small club with a 5,000-10,000 capacity stadium. I'm sure even you know Leeds have proud history and a big stadium. As do Southampton.

United do not have a favoured draw. I could've done this with Liverpool or Chelsea and the same outcome would've materialised. You are clearly worked up that Leeds have been drawn against a big side and it's unlikely they're going to progress and have become so media influenced that you believe the biggest club in the world even gets a lucky draw. I can assure you a lucky draw isn't being drawn against teams from the same league.

Bravo.

[leah]

OK, let me go back in the last decade. I will do this with United and another top four club, Arsenal and prove to you United have no better draw than any other side. Arsenal was randomly chosen. I will just do the third draw else it would take hours.

Here goes...

00-01 season
United - Fulham
Arsenal - Carlisle

01-02 season
United - Aston Villa
Arsenal - Watford

02-03 season
United - Portsmouth
Arsenal - Oxford

03-04
United - Villa
Arsenal - Leeds

04-05
United - Exeter
Arsenal - Stoke

05-06
United - Burton
Arsenal - Cardiff

06-07
United - Villa
Arsenal - Liverpool

07-08
United - Villa
Arsenal - Burnley

08-09
United - Southampton
Arsenal - argyle

09-10
United - leeds
Arsenal - west ham

Now, this doesn't prove that they don't get lower league sides but it does prove that you're being biased. Six out of the 10 years they had premier league opposition, is that the lower league draws you are talking about? Point proven. With Southampton and Leeds, they are big clubs with proud cup history, clearly you don't understand that. A lower league "favoured" draw is a small club with a 5,000-10,000 capacity stadium. I'm sure even you know Leeds have proud history and a big stadium. As do Southampton.

United do not have a favoured draw. I could've done this with Liverpool or Chelsea and the same outcome would've materialised. You are clearly worked up that Leeds have been drawn against a big side and it's unlikely they're going to progress and have become so media influenced that you believe the biggest club in the world even gets a lucky draw. I can assure you a lucky draw isn't being drawn against teams from the same league.

Bravo.
I love how you've leapt straight to the third round when I said the first round originally :rolleyes:

I don't understand my own club? HAHA are you being serious? Ofcourse I know that SH and Leeds are big clubs, with a good history in the cup, I didn't deny that at all, but I said they get drawn against lower league clubs in the first round and you used lower league clubs to argue against me with, which isn't logical at all.

As for the cheek of you saying i'm influenced by the media? The media have constantly supported MU and very rarely are negative about them, so if I paid any attention to what the media have to say i'd be describing them as the "biggest club in the world"... yet you're the one doing that.

As for your latter point about how i'm worked up about us being drawn against MU, you couldn't be more wrong. I'm only bothered about the league because unlike your side we actually have a shot at winning it and aren't phased by other competitions such as the Carling/FA cup. The standard between the two teams is very different and we'll be completely out played tomorrow, but what more is there to expect? However I do know that we'll try hard and not put our heads down and it should be a good game. :)

[Immenseman]

I love how you've leapt straight to the third round when I said the first round originally :rolleyes:

...

United aren't in the first round, nor the second, neither are any other premiership side. They are added into the third round, l o l.

[leah]

I meant the first round that they play in, LMAO!!!!!

[Immenseman]

Yeah... the third round is the first round they play in so I have used the first round like you said :S ;llllllll

[leah]

Now, this doesn't prove that they don't get lower league sides
All I was saying was that it was typical for MU to be drawn against Leeds because they often get lower league sides at home, I didn't write about Arsenal/Chelsea because it asked who "your team was playing" and the answer to that was MU so why would I have spoken at all about the other teams? im not being biased im making an observation about the team we're playing tomorrow and as you said that what you posted doesn't prove that MU don't get lower league sides I don't know what you're disagreeing with me for?


Yeah... the third round is the first round they play in so I have used the first round like you said :S ;llllllll

the wording you used was a little ambiguous, I thought you were posting the third round that they had played in. ;llllllllll

Were arsenal drawn at home for most of those? cause my other point was that man u are often drawn at home a lot too which is a huge advantage.

[Immenseman]

idk and i'm not looking back. anyway 60% of those are premier league sides so still isn't really lower league sides but whatever i have proved ma point in this thread baby girl ~

[leah]

idk and i'm not looking back. anyway 60% of those are premier league sides so still isn't really lower league sides but whatever i have proved ma point in this thread baby girl ~

you haven't proved your point at all, because my point was that united often get drawn against lower league opposition, something which you haven't disproved.

you've barked on about other big clubs also having lower league opposition but that's not something I was disagreeing with in the first place.

[Immenseman]

barked?! GET OUT

i have proved, using the last decade that they have been drawn against premiership sides more often than not.

[brandon]

Colchester conceding 7 goals how embarrassing :$

[leah]

barked?! GET OUT

i have proved, using the last decade that they have been drawn against premiership sides more often than not.

Actually, you think you have, your research is somewhat flawed. You made the rookie mistake of judging the teams by their league status at this current time, if you actually looked properly you'd see that 60% of MU's 3rd round fixtures were in lower leagues at the time.

fulham
Portsmouth
Exeter
Burton
Southampton
leeds


were all in the lower leagues when they were drawn against MU in the cup! :)

[Immenseman]

and probably 80% were in the two top leagues therefore proving your lower league statement entirely wrong.

[leah]

and probably 80% were in the two top leagues therefore proving your lower league statement entirely wrong.
oh darling, now you're just clutching at straws to make your argument look correct. Even if it's just the league below it's still a lower league, meaning that what I said was correct after all.

[Immenseman]

even 40% proves you wrong so it doesn't matter either way, lol. i have given you facts and you haven't. the draw is the same for everybody, why can't you just accept this rather than being obsessed that united are favoured. it's just embarrassing that you think it happens to united when i've already proven it happens to arsenal too. 4/10 of their games which is almost half have been premierleague oppostion.

facts beat opinion i'm afraid, therefore i'm right - united, nor any other team have lucky or favoured draws.

[leah]

even 40% proves you wrong so it doesn't matter either way, lol. i have given you facts and you haven't. the draw is the same for everybody, why can't you just accept this rather than being obsessed that united are favoured. it's just embarrassing that you think it happens to united when i've already proven it happens to arsenal too. 4/10 of their games which is almost half have been premierleague oppostion.

facts beat opinion i'm afraid, therefore i'm right - united, nor any other team have lucky or favoured draws.

I didn't say they were favoured, theres a phrase the luck of the draw. But silly me that doesn't exist right? :S

No, 40% does not prove me wrong because I didn't say all of their opposition is lower league I said that they are often drawn against lower league opposition and 60% is more often than 40% thus proving me right. I have provided evidence, I mentioned Barnsley in the Carling Cup and then you tried to prove your point with evidence that just backed up my point further. But you don't seem to be understanding this so I'll summarise for you:

I said that MU are often drawn against lower league opposition.
You then provided evidence of them in the last decade being drawn against 60% lower league teams and 40% teams in their own league (funnily enough the teams in their own league were all below them in the table).
Because the majority of the teams they've been drawn against are lower league opposition what I said was right.

There are the facts you keep mentioning, shame they back me up instead of you though.

[Immenseman]

"Often" and "always" would imply more than 40% of the time. This thread was about the third round and the FA cup, not whatever you want to try and make yourself look right because you've become desperate to be so, when it's unequivocal you're not. I've given your draws from the last decade which totally contradicts your post, Portsmouth were promoted in 2003, admittedly there were one league below but the top of the league, hardly a huge gulf and a small side like you're implying. It's cute you're calling your own team a small side to try and prove yourself right though, really outdone your self there. "Below them in the table" I assume that was a joke seeing as about 90/92 league sides are below them at any given time. Not even including non league. Ouch - shame the post you give are just backing up what I've said.

[Mexel]

I live a hour away from Forest, i got back at 10! Nottingham station closed inbetween Derby so had to get a coach from Derby there and back from derby and train the rest. Train from Birmingham to Sutton to get back was the highly delayed,

AND IT WAS 0-0.

[leah]

"Often" and "always" would imply more than 40% of the time.

no, it implies more than half of the time. Being drawn against teams in lower leagues than you over half of the time in one competition is very lucky which is what i've been saying this whole time.

This thread was about the third round and the FA cup, not whatever you want to try and make yourself look right because you've become desperate to be so, when it's unequivocal you're not.
In my other posts i've mentioned the Carling Cup, this is because both of these competitions are run similarly. But if you only want to talk about the FA cup then fine, because theres plenty of evidence that backs up my point when just talking about the FA cup anyway. As for me resorting to anything because of my despiration to be right... could you be any more hypocritical? You've been proved wrong, you can't seem to accept it and you're just making it worse for yourself by prolonging this argument that was ended with the facts that you provided thinking that it proved you correct but with more research actually proved myself correct.


I've given your draws from the last decade which totally contradicts your post, Portsmouth were promoted in 2003, admittedly there were one league below but the top of the league, hardly a huge gulf and a small side like you're implying.
How do they contradict MY post?! When you thought that 60% of teams they'd been drawn against were in the premier league you were saying how your point had been proven but you were too naive and didn't actually check the facts you were using to solidify your point. I didn't imply Portsmouth were a small side, I didn't imply any of the teams were 'small' sides, what I said was they were sides in a lower league, which is a fact.


It's cute you're calling your own team a small side to try and prove yourself right though, really outdone your self there.
I haven't called my team 'small' in the slightest, don't be so wet. I said we're two leagues below MU which is true, so obviously the standard of football will be different.


"Below them in the table" I assume that was a joke seeing as about 90/92 league sides are below them at any given time. Not even including non league.
Again if you actually read what I wrote then you wouldn't write such nonsense. I said that the premierleague sides you were drawn against were all below you in the league.

It's quite sweet how you thought you were in the right when you thought that 60% of teams drawn against MU in the 3rd round were in the premiership. However, you were wrong. 40% were in the same league as MU at the time of the draw and they were all lower down in the league than MU. I said that MU are often drawn against lower league opposition, in the last decade (substantial evidence when you were under the false impression it agreed with your point) they were drawn against 60% lower league sides, which clearly backs up what I said in the first place.

Throughout this debate you have failed to actually read what i've said and arrogantly flounced "facts" in to support your argument, you then went on to say that facts matter more than opinion, so when these facts that you introduced to the thread actually support what i'm saying i'm going to have to agree that facts do outweigh opinion, sorry babe! :(

[Geraint]

**** day today. no shocks, anything. spent £2 looking at them results on my phone aswell. :(

i wouldn't say the fa cup draw is fixed, just happens to be a coincidence. it's easy to predict though, yes.

[Immenseman]

You've already said 90% of that before in previous posts which has been replied to btw. I did read what you said it was just hilarious, all teams United draw are below them 99% of the time. Also, lets go back even further. 99-00 United weren't in the draw due to other commitments. In 98/99 they played Middlesbrough who were a premiership side, another example of the lower league side you keep mentioning :rolleyes: OK, even further, 97/98 they had Chelsea, another lower league side :rolleyes: OK, 96/97, Tottenham Hotspur, another lower league side :rolleyes: So that's 14 examples and I make that 8 times where they haven't played lower league oppostion. OK, 99/00, not fair, that's 7 times. Which is this "more than half" you keep talking about... oh wait, it's 50%. Facts sure are better ;) Thanks for your participation :~)

[Geraint]

let's talk about leeds' fa cup draw in 2002. sounds good to me. :D

[leah]

**** day today. no shocks, anything. spent £2 looking at them results on my phone aswell. :(

i wouldn't say the fa cup draw is fixed, just happens to be a coincidence. it's easy to predict though, yes.
oh is this someone agreeing with me? ul jack.

You've already said 90% of that before in previous posts which has been replied to btw. I did read what you said it was just hilarious, all teams United draw are below them 99% of the time. Also, lets go back even further. 99-00 United weren't in the draw due to other commitments. In 98/99 they played Middlesbrough who were a premiership side, another example of the lower league side you keep mentioning :rolleyes: OK, even further, 97/98 they had Chelsea, another lower league side :rolleyes: OK, 96/97, Tottenham Hotspur, another lower league side :rolleyes: So that's 14 examples and I make that 8 times where they haven't played lower league oppostion. OK, 99/00, not fair, that's 7 times. Which is this "more than half" you keep talking about... oh wait, it's 50%. Facts sure are better ;) Thanks for your participation :~)
I said it before because it proved me right and you narrowmindedly ignored it. As for all teams that MU draw are 99% below them is not what we're talking about? I said lower leagues not below them, is twisting my words the only way you can win an argument?

You're doing what you did earlier again, throwing in random times when they did play teams in their league to prove your point, it doesn't justify what you're saying because it's not an accurate representation of the whole duration of the FA cup.

before you used the last decade, and the last decade agreed with what I was saying, so now you're going to try and get other dates to prove your point too? that's a little desperate to say the least.

The last decade proves my point, if now that the last decade doesn't support your warped theories it's not sufficient data anymore then that's just petty. If you're so hell bent on being correct you could always look at every 3rd round draw MU have played, then research those teams to see what league they were in at the time (something which slipped your mind last time) and then we can discuss this further? Because i'm more than sure that over half of MUs 3rd round draws out of the whole history of the FA cup will have been in a lower league. I didn't suggest it was fixed once, it's just the way the cookie crumbles and as I said first, typical.

[Immenseman]

I used the last decade because I didn't want to be there forever, you didn't get the idea and wanted to be all cocky about one year so I decided to give you more to prove myself right. Leeds have had favourable draws every single year, it must be fixed peeps.

[Grainger@CUFC]

Leeds have had favourable draws every single year, it must be fixed peeps.

Histon springs to mind :eusa_whis

[Charlottay!]

Was a great game for stoke today.

Hit and miss if we were going to play since York got stuck on the motorway.

Was bad when we went 1-0 but to then go 2-1 up in 3mins was incredible. Great game for stoke and can hopefully be carried into the prem games.

[leah]

I used the last decade because I didn't want to be there forever, you didn't get the idea and wanted to be all cocky about one year so I decided to give you more to prove myself right. Leeds have had favourable draws every single year, it must be fixed peeps.

I wasn't cocky about one year? I was merely giving you a taste of your own medicine because you're always cocky and this time you were wrong and it was proven. You can add on as many years as you like to analyse but my point was based on the competition as a whole so you can't generalise it to certain years anyway.

and the latter of your post is just you having a tantrum because you lost an argument, cheeky immenseman x

[Immenseman]

hahaha, so favoured!! +rep. @ grainger

also, good result for argyle today, keeping newcastle to 0-0 draw :) was alright

@ leah - facts win. thus i do. yay!

[leah]

Histon springs to mind :eusa_whis

didn't we lose to them? or was that hereford? LOL

[Geraint]

I used the last decade because I didn't want to be there forever, you didn't get the idea and wanted to be all cocky about one year so I decided to give you more to prove myself right. Leeds have had favourable draws every single year, it must be fixed peeps.

fully agreed, when they were top of the league they drew then division 2 cardiff. :D

[Grainger@CUFC]

didn't we lose to them? or was that hereford? LOL

Yes, you lost 1-0 :eusa_clap

[Geraint]

lost 1-0 then all the histon players watched the draw, saw swansea and all look disappointed. :lol:

[Immenseman]

No man u always seems to be drawn again aston villa early lmaooo :D


let's talk about leeds' fa cup draw in 2002. sounds good to me. :D


Histon springs to mind :eusa_whis


fully agreed, when they were top of the league they drew then division 2 cardiff. :D


Yes, you lost 1-0 :eusa_clap
+REP to great posts. I was annoyed that Torquay went out because they're a local side and need the money. 0-1 Brighton, late goal. Hopefully Argyle will beat Newcastle as St James (or whatever it has been renamed too).

[leah]

idc if leeds have had favourable draws in the past, all clubs have, but they haven't had it as much as MU, picking out a few doesn't change that!! :)!!!!

Jake it's adorable that you're changing the subject, you know you're losing when you resort to such tactics :eusa_danc

[Immenseman]

lmao, you're so cheeky copying me :-l

anyway, hope there are some some actual surprises in round 4. like a big 4 side being beaten because tbh round 3 (so far) has been very disappointing

[lBlue]

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[Jack.Lfc]

Still on my way home haha

[Jack.Lfc]

Just got home, awful game, didnt deserve to win, good day out.

[Immenseman]

Just got home, awful game, didnt deserve to win, good day out.
good that ya didnt then

[Geraint]

did you walk?

[leah]

aww bless you jack lol :}
that reminds me of when I go to leeds... leave around 5ish?

[Black_Apalachi]

concentratin on the league init
















JKKKKKK FGS

[Jack.Lfc]

We didnt deserve to win, we should be winning reading, but we didnt and we didnt deserve too. Thats what i mean.

&

Nope went to some pub in reading, left reading at 10 30.

Left at 11 this morning missed first 10 mins of game, traffic was mad.

[Immenseman]

ano jack ya lil cutie.

[StefanWolves]

tranmere will go us tomoro

[Bun]

dire and bloody dismal. we just can't cut it in the final third. our attendance was embarrasing, city brought a canny few but they were boring.

[-Heart]

Only 5,000 watched Wigan-Hull :lol:.

[adaym]

Just got home, awful game, didnt deserve to win, good day out.
good pies though don't you think?

[lBlue]

dire and bloody dismal. we just can't cut it in the final third. our attendance was embarrasing, city brought a canny few but they were boring.
boring? there was 6 of you singing :lol:

[Geraint]

We didnt deserve to win, we should be winning reading, but we didnt and we didnt deserve too. Thats what i mean.

&

Nope went to some pub in reading, left reading at 10 30.

Left at 11 this morning missed first 10 mins of game, traffic was mad.

i got back from liverpool at 5:30am and we got there at like 7 after leaving at 12.

[Jack.Lfc]

liverpool - reading = 3 hours
liverpool - cardiff = 6 hours

[adaym]

gotta tell you, i'm loving this game.

[Geraint]

tra united. :D

[Jibbish]

wheres clowgon? ;)

[Andys]

HAHAHAHA, CLOWGON WHERE ARE YOU?
GET THE **** IN!

[leah]

hahahahahahha!!!
what was it Luccy. was saying yesterday? How we're going to lose because MU are half decent opposition..?

Where is she? Get her online? ;)
Wheres Immenseman.....

[Geraint]

wheres clowgon? ;)


HAHAHAHA, CLOWGON WHERE ARE YOU?
GET THE **** IN!

give him a chance to get back from OT.

[leah]

give him a chance to get back from OT.
LOL banter :)

so yeah we've gone through now, think we beat that side... ermmm what were they called again :lol: oh yeah, Manchester United...!

[Tash.]

Hahah oh I love it whenever MU lose, but todays was just brilliant. Kinda predicted Sir Purple Nose not to come out afterwards, he's such a bad loser his head probably exploded. Can't wait to see what he blames it on, bad refereeing or something probably. Good times :D

[Bun]

boring? there was 6 of you singing :lol:
okay nvm i thought you were going but you clearly didn't.



decent recent for leeds eh? game was awesome to watch.