Doctor Who - Series 5.

[iBlueBox]

well we need a thread for series 5 of Doctor Who xD.


Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE

[dbgtz]

Dont need it yet its in spring

[iBlueBox]

Dont need it yet its in spring

Still, to post new trailers and information (:

[Hiro]

If anyone comes in here and starts saying how crap the new doctor is, they'll get minus rep. You must have super skills by judging from 20 seconds of screen time.

[Dan2nd]

It'll be strange since everyone is used to David Tennant but I'm still looking forward to seeing how Matt Smith does :)

[crazed]

It'll be strange since everyone is used to David Tennant but I'm still looking forward to seeing how Matt Smith does :)

Same, I wasn't too sure when he got announced but after seeing the trailer he looks quite good. Zany like David, but also abit of a bad-ass ;)

[Fez]

"OOOOH LOTS OF FINGERS."

He's going to be a good doc.

[iBlueBox]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTJWhtuRLac/S0XIEMM3g5I/AAAAAAAAJig/JlUpKx5KMHI/s1600-h/matt2.png

- New promotional image as Matt Smith as The Doctor.

[Inseriousity.]

I think he'll be good tbh although geronimo will start to annoy me I think. allons-y ftw :P

I know the doctor uses john smith but I think he should change it to matt smith and use the excuse "it sounds like a cool name." it'd just be one of those dorky jokes referencing his real name as his new 'identity' :P

[dbgtz]

I think he'll be good tbh although geronimo will start to annoy me I think. allons-y ftw :P

I know the doctor uses john smith but I think he should change it to matt smith and use the excuse "it sounds like a cool name." it'd just be one of those dorky jokes referencing his real name as his new 'identity' :P

I said that on the end of time thread *cri* also agreed with top thing, I hope they don't constantly keep the traits of previous doctors or these 1 liners will get sooo annoying lol.

[iBlueBox]

New Promotion Image!!

http://i49.tinypic.com/33m1xyg.jpg

[Sulai]

I much prefer him in the trailer to his couple of minutes on screen at the end of the specials.

[kk.]

very harry potterish :S

[dbgtz]

It's gonna be called series 1 btw.

[kk.]

New Promotion Image!!

http://i49.tinypic.com/33m1xyg.jpg
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/potter/boxart1.jpg

http://www.impawards.com/2007/posters/harry_potter_and_the_order_of_the_phoenix_ver8.jpg

:)

[iBlueBox]

It's gonna be called series 1 btw.

i know but i thought a few people would get confused,

[Stitch]

New trailer on Saturday! Hopefully it will be on YouTube quickly.

[iBlueBox]

New trailer on Saturday! Hopefully it will be on YouTube quickly.

trailer will be up afterwards on the site www.bbc.co.uk/DoctorWho & www.youtube.com/BBC post all new trailers and more on their.

[Charlottay!]

The trailer looks amazing. cant wait for it.

[dbgtz]

has the new one aired?

EDIT: OMG I just watched the one back in Jan and I noticed the magpie electricals

[iBlueBox]

woah just seen the new trailer, was so frekan strange but i cant wait!

[dbgtz]

That trailer was absolutely awful imo, is Amy Pond american? She sounds it to me (obviously the r/l actress aint).

[Stitch]

They're showing it in 3D at cinemas (Before Alice in Wonderland). It was ok but I hoped for a trailer showing clips of the first half of the series. I don't think Amy Pond is meant to be American.

[Chris]

She's Scottish irl I think. Just like dt.

[Fez]

If that's the new show theme than damn this'll be a good series

[Dan!]

If that's the new show theme than damn this'll be a good series

agreed, that trailer looked good can't wait for Doctor Who to start.

[kk.]

easter :'( thats like 35 days away. depending on if they mean when the actual easter holidays are lol

[iBlueBox]

That trailer was absolutely awful imo, is Amy Pond american? She sounds it to me (obviously the r/l actress aint).

she's scottish :)

[Dan!]

easter :'( thats like 35 days away. depending on if they mean when the actual easter holidays are lol

could mean anything, its the BBC after all.

[iBlueBox]

DOCTOR WHO - SCRIPT EXTRACT - VAMPIRE IN VENICE - EPISODE 8!

THE DOCTOR (CONT'D)
I want Rory to see it too. So I'm sending you somewhere. Together.

AMY
What, like a date?

THE DOCTOR
Anywhere you want, any time you want. One condition: it has to be amazing. The Moulin Rouge in 1890! The first Olympic games! Think of it as a wedding present. Because frankly it's either this or tokens.

AMY
What do you think Rory?


Rory says nothing. Still hunched against his pillar. The Doctor smiles understandingly. He knows what this is about.


THE DOCTOR
It's a lot to take in, isn't it. Tiny box, huge room inside: what's that about? Let me explain...

http://img259.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76773_SPOILERS_122_367lo.jpg

[Stitch]

I think it will probably start 3rd April.

[dbgtz]

she's scottish :)

Karen might be that but you can do accents, look at David Tennant.

@Above why april 3rd?

[Stitch]

I think 3rd April is the Saturday during Easter weekend. It could be a week before or after.

[iBlueBox]

Karen might be that but you can do accents, look at David Tennant.

@Above why april 3rd?

yah but Steven Moffat said some where that she will be scottish and she was born in scotland i think :S but she's deffo not american

and yes Doctor Who returns the 3rd of April their was that trailer today and at the end it said coming the 3rd of April

[Inseriousity.]

yah but Steven Moffat said some where that she will be scottish and she was born in scotland i think :S but she's deffo not american

and yes Doctor Who returns the 3rd of April their was that trailer today and at the end it said coming the 3rd of April

:O where?

Yeah I didn't like that 'teaser', 'trailer' whatever you wanna call it. Not the acting, just the lack of pictures I can oooooohhh over :P

[Stitch]

:O where?

Yeah I didn't like that 'teaser', 'trailer' whatever you wanna call it. Not the acting, just the lack of pictures I can oooooohhh over :P
I think it was the same one but it said 3rd April instead of Easter 2010.

[iBlueBox]

not long to go,

also Doctor Who is going on tour this month :L

[dbgtz]

on tour? :S

[Stefy09]

Matt Smith is a right scary ******

[Stitch]

The Eleventh Hour
Sat, 3 Apr 2010, 18:25

The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic screwdriver destroyed, the new Doctor has just 20 minutes to save the whole world - and only Amy Pond to help him.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rs6t7

Nearly there! Yay!

[dbgtz]

and its at an earlier time then it was before :D But I'm feeling a bit 42? You'll get what I mean when you realise.

[Stitch]

Yeah I see what you mean.

Matt Smith is on Friday Night with Johnathan Ross on 26th March! Hopefully we will see a new clip or trailer!

[Tenbeta]

and its at an earlier time then it was before :D But I'm feeling a bit 42? You'll get what I mean when you realise.


Hahah, got it straight away from the 42! Loved that episode.

[Stitch]

http://img299.yfrog.com/img299/6169/i5u.jpg
http://img96.yfrog.com/img96/8268/tz2i.jpg

TARDIS crashed at Cineworld in Wales!

[iBlueBox]

here's a lot more pictures of press launch :)

http://i44.tinypic.com/28v57xs.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/35055si.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/20a6qs8.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2naip2d.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2we9hxc.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2jeqomx.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/jtb4va.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/20j1r0z.jpg


heres the interview with a new clip on: http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/

[dbgtz]

Matt Smith looks a bit of a douche in those press pics :P

[iBlueBox]

Matt Smith looks a bit of a douche in those press pics :P

ahaha, their not great pics. just ones people have took on their smart phones and uploaded via twitter.

[Inseriousity.]

ahhhhhh *fan squeel* okay im not that bad but I still can't wait :D
it'll be good to have something worthwhile on tv again tbh.

ashes to ashes, doctor who - sounds like a good easter ;)

[Stitch]

Another interview with Matt Smith and Karen Gillan here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8575480.stm

[iBlueBox]

ahhhhhh *fan squeel* okay im not that bad but I still can't wait :D
it'll be good to have something worthwhile on tv again tbh.

ashes to ashes, doctor who - sounds like a good easter ;)

o-o, whens ashes to ashes back,

[Inseriousity.]

o-o, whens ashes to ashes back,

friday 2nd... I think :P
soon anyways!

back on topic: clip looks good, doesnt it :D

[Stitch]

UK viewers will get an exclusive preview of The Eleventh Hour from next Wednesday when the first minute of the episode is made available on the BBC Red Button service.

The clip will launch on 24th March and will be available at various times until the series launches at Easter Weekend. On day one the clip is expected to be available from 6am-2pm, from 3pm to 5.50pm and then from 9.10pm onwards.

The BBC red button service can be viewed on digital platforms in the UK. Details on the BBC Website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/digital/tv/tv_interactive.shtml).


http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2010/03/red-button-preview-of-eleventh-hour.html

[Tenbeta]

here's a lot more pictures of press launch :)




OMG! That's Cineworld Caerdydd D: About 20 mins from my house all the way in town :)!

[Stitch]

New trailer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG99p8J5ybY

[dbgtz]

My faith is restoring in matt smith but he won't beat dt. Anyway cybermen and daleks, woo? I guess it will be interesting to see how the daleks return and hopefully this cyberman one ain't **** as hell.

[Chris]

Another new trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdAPheEE_3k&feature=player_embedded

[iBlueBox]

10 Days To Go :D

[lTraditional]

Comming out shortly, i am really excited for this and i am defonately going to watch it!

[iBlueBox]

Matt Smiths on the Jonathan Ross show tonight!

[Stitch]

Extended series 5 trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3berYXUrSnw

Episode 6 clip not on YouTube yet.

[Stitch]

Can't edit. Here's the clip from Vampires in Venice (episode 6) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmB9ctI52kY

[dirrty]

god the new doctor is so ugly him alone puts me off watching it.

[Stefy09]

christopher eccleston - Great
david tennant - Great

matt smith - He looks like he is trying too hard at acting like ce and dt did as dr who.. And failing

[Fez]

Hey guys I got an idea, lets judge an actor before we've even seen them perform to full standard.

[iBlueBox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glz4ow7mRVU&NR=1

here's the clip :)

[Stitch]

New clip! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rs6t7 (Not on YouTube yet because it was only just revealed around 5 minutes ago)

Edit: Heres the YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNvUCYxIQM8

[dbgtz]

Chris = awful imo

Also I'm liking the clips. Ha william hartnell.

[Chris]

Dont like the new sonic. Green=eww

[iBlueBox]

here a picture of the new TARDIS console!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbranch/4473616614/

[iBlueBox]

here a picture of the new TARDIS console!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbranch/4473616614/


sorry for double post but.

that link is not working try this one:

http://img185.yfrog.com/i/doctorwhoconsole.jpg/

[Nuxty]

Well, I think this series will be somewhat exciting. :P

They seem to be keeping some of the historic features such as the Daleks, Cybermen etc. I don't think he will live up to David Tennants standard as the Doctor many have already highlighted that but I do think he will continue to entertain us in a new and unique way like every doctor has in my opinion.

[Stitch]

More pictures!


http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/01/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/02/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/03/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/04/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/05/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-exclusive-look-inside-the-new-tardis/06/mainImage.jpg


I might buy Radio Times tomorrow for the Doctor Who stuff.

[iBlueBox]

thats just sexy, going to be so hard to build on habbo with the holes/

[Chris]

Bottom pic shows it off the most and i love it. All those rooms and it looks even bigger than before! :D

[dbgtz]

owow it has changed loads and she's hot, the TARDIS looks nice too.

[Nuct]

It just looks like cheese now.

[dbgtz]

*Removed*


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude to others.

[Nuct]

Removed

nice to know Tom.

On-Topic: Regardless of the TARDIS comment, I'm slightly looking forward to the new series.

[Stitch]

Episode Guide from Radio Times! I'll put the descriptions in spoiler tags.

Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
Writer - Steven Moffat
Guest Stars - Annette Crosbie, Nina Wadia and Arthur Darvill
Geronimo! A brand-new Doctor crashing to Earth. New face, new body, new man. And he's barely staggered out of the blue box, before he's found himself in the middle of the Crisis THat Just Won't Stop! No time to rest and recover; no TARDIS, no screwdriver - just six billion human beings about to die and only one man to save them. But the new Doctor encounters more than danger - this is the day he meets Amy Pond. Can he persuade her to trust him, when he's been letting her down all her life?

Quote - "Who da man?"

Episode 2 - The Beast Below
Writer - Steven Moffat
Guest Stars - Sophie Okonedo, Terrence Hardiman
The Doctor takes Amy to the far future, and Starship UK. The British people, adrift among the stars on a giant spaceship, in search of a new home. But there are secrets here, in the rusting corridors and clanging hallways. A masked figure, who knows the Doctor of old, begs his help, while Amy encounters the terrifying Smilers, and uncovers a secret so dreadful, no one can remember it...

Quote - "Nobody talk to me! Nobody human has anything to say to me today!"

Episode 3 - Victory of the Daleks
Writer - Mark Gatiss
Guest Stars - Ian McNeice and Bill Paterson
From the terrifying future of the United Kingdom to one of the darkest chapters of its past - World War Two. The Doctor and Amy find themselves in a top-secret cabinet war room deep beneath the London streets. And there, gliding among the nicotine walls and Bakelite telephones, the Daleks are hatching their deadliest scheme yet. Only one man can help the Doctor - but whose side is Winston Churchill on?

Quote - "I wanted to know what their plan was. I was their plan!"

Episodes 4/5 - The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone
Writer - Steven Moffat
Guest Stars - Alex Kingston and Iain Glen
A two-part story. A crashed spaceship, a shattered temple and a terrifying climb through the maze of the dead - River Song is back in the Doctor's life, and she's brought more trouble than even he can handle. The last of the Weeping Angels is loose in the ruins of Alfava Metraxis, and the Doctor is recruited to track it down. "Don't blink!" everyone tells Amy - but as Amy is about to discover, not blinking might just be the worst thing you can do...

Quote - "Is River Song your wife?"

Episode 6 - Vampires in Venice
Writer - Toby Whithouse
Guest Star - Helen McCrory
In Venice, even danger is beautiful. The House of Calvierri has the whole city under it's protection, but something is very wrong. There are blood-drained corpses in the street, something lurks in the canal, and the Calvierri girls are the loveliest in town, except when you glance in the mirror...

Quote - "You know what's dangerous about you? Not that you ask people to take risks, but that you make them want to impress you!"

Episode 7 - Amy's Choice
Writer - Simon Nye
Guest Star - Toby Jones
It's been five long years since Amy travelled in the TARDIS with her mysterious Doctor - and when he shows up again, on the eve of the birth of her first child, danger is not far behind him. Amy is faced with a heartbreaking choice that will change her life forever.

Quote - "I know who you are. There's only one person in the universe who hates me as much as you do."

Episodes 8/9
Writer - Chris Chibnall
Guest Stars - Meera Syal, Stephen Moore and Neve McIntosh
In 2015, the most ambitious drilling project in history is under way. Dr Nasreen Chaudhry and her team have reached 21 kilometres into the Earth's crust - but something is stirring far below. Amy Pond discovers there's nowhere to run when you can't even trust the ground at your feet.

Quote - "While you've been drilling down... something else has been drilling up."

Episode 10
Writer - Richard Curtis
Guest Star - Tony Curran
Terror lurks in the cornfields of Provence, but only a sad and lonely painter can see it. Amy Pond finds herself shoulder to shoulder with Vincent van Gogh, in a battle with a deadly alien - saving the world has never been so ginger! But can even the Doctor save Vincent?

Quote - "Art can wait, this is life and death. We need to talk to Vincent van Gogh!"

Episode 11
Writer - Gareth Roberts
Guest Stars - James Corden and Daisy Haggard
The Doctor faces his greatest challenge yet - a flat share! People are disappearing on Aickman Road, and the Doctor must solve the mystery of a staircase that people walk up - but never down.

Quote - "All I have to do is pass as an ordinary human being. What could possibly go wrong?"

Episodes 12/13
Writer - Steven Moffat
A message on the oldest cliff-face in the universe, a puzzle box opening from the inside and a love that lasts thousands of years... The fates are drawing close around the TARDIS - is this the day the Doctor falls?

Quote - "There was a goblin. Or a trickster, or a warrior. A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos. Nothing could stop it, or hold it, or reason with it - one day it would just drop out of the sky and tear down your world."

That took ages to type out.

[dbgtz]

Last one must be the cyberman one?

OMG on the radio today: "It's easter this weekend, AND who could forget a NEW DOCTOR WHO!". Dr who is more important :L

[Stitch]

Last one must be the cyberman one?

OMG on the radio today: "It's easter this weekend, AND who could forget a NEW DOCTOR WHO!". Dr who is more important :L

I think you may be correct.

[Fez]

Last one must be the cyberman one?

OMG on the radio today: "It's easter this weekend, AND who could forget a NEW DOCTOR WHO!". Dr who is more important :L

Cyberman one is

Van Gogh episode

[Stitch]

DUCK POND!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arikdECVbx4

[Stitch]

Matt Smith on Blue Peter! (Some new clips shown during the videos!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3dpUaKBkwE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4xICaHXSUE

Matt Smith on BBC Radio Northampton!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkesiaBJ1Ds

[iBlueBox]

Doctor Who Today
6:20
BBC One & BBC HD

[dbgtz]

Cyberman one is

Van Gogh episode

How do you know? Also if it is, does this mean the finale has a non-recycled character? :O Also I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. 13 weeks of hopefully good episodes. Although I dread that vampire one :l

[luce]

It should be ok i guess but i am a massive bille and david fan so with neither of them i'm skeptical. From all the interviews i have seen he seems a bit arrogant about his position and he's to posh and gay to be a good doctor.

[Stitch]

How do you know? Also if it is, does this mean the finale has a non-recycled character? :O Also I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. 13 weeks of hopefully good episodes. Although I dread that vampire one :l

I think the finale has at least 1 Cyberman because apparently:

They are rumoured to join The Daleks, Sontarans and other old and new enemies in the Series 5 (Season 31) finale. In the brand new trailer there is a short shot of a Cybus Cyberman. These Cybermen might appear in the finale alongside the Cybus Cybermen.

Source: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberman - bottom of the page (Later developments)

[Chris]

Just a hour to go. Can't wait! :D

[Fez]

Squeeeee. It's now!

[dbgtz]

I think the finale has at least 1 Cyberman because apparently:

They are rumoured to join The Daleks, Sontarans and other old and new enemies in the Series 5 (Season 31) finale. In the brand new trailer there is a short shot of a Cybus Cyberman. These Cybermen might appear in the finale alongside the Cybus Cybermen.

Source: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberman - bottom of the page (Later developments)

What does it mean, "these cyberman will" and so on, they look exactly the same? Except the missing thingy.

EDIT: I overall hate the new beginnings music

[Chris]

It's on in like a second. :D:D

[crazed]

LOL @ TITLES

[dbgtz]

loving it so far I actually have to admit

omg MRS MASOOD

[crazed]

loving it so far I actually have to admit


He isn't a bad doctor :P

"Beans are evil, bad bad beans."

[samsaBEAR]

The new titles are awful, and I'm not sure I like him as the Doctor, but it's early days yet

[Fez]

Matt Smith is the Doctor.

[Tenbeta]

New intro is awful, didn't like the beginning either. But surprisingly he did quite well and despite his quim appearance, I think he might be able to pull it off.

Somethings I noticed in the "previews" at the end:

- The Daleks had a British Emblem on them. (As they do on army suits, signalling that they are with the British?)
- The Soldiers in Dester Camo who appeared used the same teleportation device as from the parallel rift (End of Season 2)

Hmm...

[dbgtz]

Cyberman picking up broken cyberman head, that's got me interested. I am v interested in this series now, except the vampire one. Also I think the weeping angels will be badly written.

[Stitch]

The intro is different and I think it will take a while for me to get used to it. I really liked it and I want next week now!

[Chris]

Loved it minus the titles, they where awful!

[Fez]

Also I think the weeping angels will be badly written.

It's written by Stephen Moffet, who also did 'Blink', so no. It won't be.

I think the intro will grow on us, we're just so used to the old one. I want babies with the new TARDIS.

[samsaBEAR]

I can't wait to find out more about River Song

[iBlueBox]

only thing what i don't really like is the new titles xD

[simplymagic]

I love the new tardisand can't wait to see the new rooms in it and the title screens are not that bad, they are the same, if not better, than the old one.

[Niall!]

Great episode, Matt Smith totally proved my predictions wrong. His acting was fantastic, he's proving himself to be an equal to Tennant.

[Tenbeta]

I agree Niall.

He's started off much better than Tennant did. Tennant only became amazing later into Doctor Who, rather then straight away.

[dirrty]

thought it was alright. saw in the previews for future episodes that james corden will be in an episode, so i'm soooooo watching that.

[Stefy09]

I loved it and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series! I think he did a great job actually, he tried so hard to act like CE + DT and he really pulled it off, makes me think what we're meant to think and that it's still the old doctors but in a different body :)

[Verrou]

Oooo cool, I saw the weeping angel from Blink. I think maybe that the Darlek is working for the humans?

[dbgtz]

I think the dalek one is well, we know it's WWII. Churchil obviously is working with them but they're actually using this to wipe out the axis side then they would eventually wipe out the allies side then whoever is left.

[ecstasy]

JAMES CORDEN!

anyway, great episode, great doctor

[Niall!]

I spotted this while browsing the Who site.

http://i40.tinypic.com/25z1a2h.jpg

Same shape as the crack on Amys wall.

And, after going back, is the same shape as the device shown in this scene.

http://i40.tinypic.com/o0105z.jpg

Underlying story arc ftw.

Let's just hope we get to see more of Amys crack in the future

[iBlueBox]

i just ordered the new sonic screwdriver of forbidden planet xD

[dbgtz]

Let's just hope we get to see more of Amys crack in the future

I agree with this statement.


Anyway only 12 weeksish left :(

[Technologic]

I spotted this while browsing the Who site.

http://i40.tinypic.com/25z1a2h.jpg

Same shape as the crack on Amys wall.

And, after going back, is the same shape as the device shown in this scene.

http://i40.tinypic.com/o0105z.jpg

Underlying story arc ftw.

Let's just hope we get to see more of Amys crack in the future

Oooh, nice spot

[Chris]

Yeah, didnt he quickly turn the screen off when he saw that on it? Must mean something. :D

[dbgtz]

I'm assuming the series finale hint was "silence is falling" or w.e they said. And maybe this crack too.

[triston220]

i just ordered the new sonic screwdriver of forbidden planet xD

Get this one:

http://celestialtoystore.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=5&zenid=1cb7d5966cb85f080727eb74a1208eef

[Stitch]

Just made this: :P

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8280/fishcustard4.gif


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Moderator): Please do not pointless posts.

[dbgtz]

I bet that actually tastes really nice.

[iBlueBox]

just me or does the time rotor look a bit wrong?

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3041/lmao.gif (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/lmao.gif/)

[iBlueBox]

Sorry for the double postings but!

So yeah,

The Eleventh Hour was set in present day right, as it had the latest Black Berry.

but on Rorys Hospital ID Card it says it was issued in 1990

Image:
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/3411/fw0oea.jpg (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/fw0oea.jpg/)

So yeah, so what is Rory?

[dbgtz]

Maybe he became a doctor in 1990? Then again he doesn't look 40, or does he?

[Nuxty]

I've just watched the first five minutes and am already impressed with the way Matt Smith has taken to the role! Anyway back to watching it! :P

[iBlueBox]

trailer for 2 The Beast Below:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hLEadBuBU8

[Verrou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwf-1zCXe-I

[Verrou]

Just made this: :P

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8280/fishcustard4.gif

Hur hur:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7327/suckydoctor22.gif


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts.

[Fez]

Hur hur:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7327/suckydoctor22.gif

Yep. Doctor Who just got a whole lot more popular.

[Stitch]

New clips!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZoevIOzwOw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSfwJi_8is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnvWRkPStKs

[dbgtz]

I'm checking the water in this area, there's an escaped fish...

[Stefy09]

omg was that a crack on the ship at the end?

[dbgtz]

Yes it was, it seems to be the big hint thing this series. Someone smart should try find out what it means. My only theory is, if it's a cyberman one, that the void has a crack.

[Chris]

Yes it was, it seems to be the big hint thing this series. Someone smart should try find out what it means. My only theory is, if it's a cyberman one, that the void has a crack.

Ooo maybe. But it must be linked to the first episode?

[Verrou]

D'awwwwww what a feel good episode that turned out the be.

[Niall!]

An odd dating issue arises yet again. Amys age.

It says in the episode 1,306.

But on the TV screens, it's 1,308.

http://i44.tinypic.com/34replc.jpg

This, coupled with Rorys nurses badge, seems to be the real "Bad Wolf" of the series. The crack is a diversion.

[Fez]

I have a feeling it's intentional.

[Verrou]

They wouldn't make mistakes like that.

[Stitch]

NEW DALEKS!

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-daleks/01/mainImage.jpg

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-daleks/02/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-daleks/03/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-daleks/04/mainImage.jpg
http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/galleries/doctor-who-daleks/05/mainImage.jpg

[dbgtz]

are they gonna be along the old ones considering we see them?

[Stitch]

are they gonna be along the old ones considering we see them?

I think they might come out of here:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5714/votd.jpg

[Fez]

'Supreme Daleks' methinks.

Mark Gatiss is writing the episode, one of the worst writers of the series. He gets blamed for the Lazarus Experiment, but he didn't even write dat, but he did write Idiots Lantern and Unquiet Dead.

I have a soft spot of Lantern, but it's still awful in my mind.

Maybe with Daleks and Churchill, he can get the job done.

[dbgtz]

I didn't mind the idiots lantern, it wasn't great but it wasn't awful.

[Stitch]

'Supreme Daleks' methinks.

Mark Gatiss is writing the episode, one of the worst writers of the series. He gets blamed for the Lazarus Experiment, but he didn't even write dat, but he did write Idiots Lantern and Unquiet Dead.

I have a soft spot of Lantern, but it's still awful in my mind.

Maybe with Daleks and Churchill, he can get the job done.

He played the Lazarus guy in The Lazarus Experiment. I don't think Idiots Lantern and Unquiet Dead were awful but I hardly ever choose watch them again.

[Fez]

He played the Lazarus guy in The Lazarus Experiment. I don't think Idiots Lantern and Unquiet Dead were awful but I hardly ever choose watch them again.

Wasn't that bad of an actor really.

[Black_Apalachi]

Haven't read a lot of this thread but aren't those angel statues coming back? They were my favourite thing ever in Doctor Who.

[Verrou]

I quite enjoyed the idiots lantern, and the unquiet dead for Gwen Coopers introduction...somewhat. But the story was a bit flat.

[Chris]

Idiots Lantern was one of my favorites from series 2.

[Stitch]

Haven't read a lot of this thread but aren't those angel statues coming back? They were my favourite thing ever in Doctor Who.

Yeah in episodes 4 and 5 (24th April and 1st May)

[Chris]

Ooo angles is a double ep. Even better. :D

[dbgtz]

I got a feeling the weeping angels story will be crap.

[Stitch]

New clips from Victory of the Daleks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjI_Oh3COlA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cbH_GKW9x0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE-ji9xyees

I think this will be a regular thing every Wednesday.

[dbgtz]

this dalek one looks promising. God I'm loving Karen. As Quagmire would say, giggity.

[Chris]

this dalek one looks promising. God I'm loving Karen. As Quagmire would say, giggity.

Gigitygoo

Clips look really good. The story looks decent.

[dbgtz]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00s56d2
theres all the clips and a couple more.

[dbgtz]

victory of the daleks = suckish.
the ending sucked
how the daleks survived sucked
how the daleks left sucked
how the daleks were resurrected sucks
it generally sucked imo.

and that doctor who game looks so rushed.

[dirrty]

some parts we're very predictable and i've noticed in every episode so far i think at some point he proclaims that 'I'M THE DOCTOR' or something along those lines. that's just getting bloody annoying.

[marriott0.01]

I think that story line about the crack in the wall is very GOOD :O

[Pyroka]

i thought it was a pretty awesome episode, you lot are too hard to please.

but that doctor who game, i mean... were they making it for the N64 then thought oh crap did we really take 10 years? :S

[Chris]

Hmm a tiny bit disappointing but it was ok. The new dalek look is a bit iffy and i think they lost the scary look.

The whole crack in the wall and time thing is a distraction.

[dbgtz]

The crack is too obvious, and I agree that its a "diversion hint" thing, because it seems there is confusion with her as she doesnt remember the daleks.

[Chris]

Has anyone also noticed that the Scottish has been mentioned in all the episodes so far? Hmm

[iBlueBox]

Has anyone also noticed that the Scottish has been mentioned in all the episodes so far? Hmm

scottish agenda.

russel was gay he had his gay agenda in some episodes.

stevens scottish so he has his scottish agenda , he said he's started to put scottish jokes in.

[Fifteen]

Thought today's ep was immense! So much better than last week. Thought the new daleks were awesome! :D
Can't wait for the next ep.

[Niall!]

http://i40.tinypic.com/116te1v.jpg

[ecstasy]

http://i40.tinypic.com/116te1v.jpg

thats exactly what i thought!

[Verrou]

Hmmm cheers for the use of Spoiler tags guys :/

[dirrty]

Hmmm cheers for the use of Spoiler tags guys :/
tough luck. you can't expect everyone to use spoiler tags after the episode has aired.

[Fez]

I liked it.

I thought the way the robot bomb was stopped was stupid, if I were the Doctor I'd carry the thing into mah TARDIS and kick it into the Dalek's bumholes.

I like the new design.

Mark Gatiss is a horrible writer, but this was a good effort. Churchill actor, Matt, Karen were all on top form.

[Niall!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sXpInWFVVo

I made this.

[Chris]

Lol@powerrangers thing.

They look more like pepper pots now than they did before imo.

[samsaBEAR]

I really wish that the writers would invent their own enemies more often, rather than use existing ones all the time. I'm so bored of seeing how the Daleks are going to magically survive their complete extinction each series.
I'm really warming up to Matt Smith though. Tennant is good, but he was a *****, and Smith seems to be more of a badass Doctor. I'm really looking forward to the angels, it's been the only episode that's actually scared the crap out of me

[Stefy09]

I agree with the make up new enemies. I always avoid watching dalek and cyberman episodes from other series.

[SirStan]

Enjoying this series :) Matt Smith is doing fine as The Doctor which i thought he would anyway, I couldn't see why people wrote him off before even seeing him.

[Jam]

Yesturday's CGI and other editing was very poor and cheesy but the first two very good.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think it's a bit easy to be too over-critical of Doctor Who. The second episode with the floating city kept making me think how old fashioned it seemed to look. I mean old fashioned in terms of how a futuristic world would have been portrayed in programmes made in the past. But then again, they're probably trying not to abandon the original style and feel that die hard Doctor Who fans will love from the older series.


victory of the daleks = suckish.
the ending sucked
how the daleks survived sucked
how the daleks left sucked
how the daleks were resurrected sucks
it generally sucked imo.

and that doctor who game looks so rushed.

Is this ep 3? Haven't see it yet but Daleks are the most over-rated villain in any piece of fiction I have ever seen.


I really wish that the writers would invent their own enemies more often, rather than use existing ones all the time. I'm so bored of seeing how the Daleks are going to magically survive their complete extinction each series.
I'm really warming up to Matt Smith though. Tennant is good, but he was a *****, and Smith seems to be more of a badass Doctor. I'm really looking forward to the angels, it's been the only episode that's actually scared the crap out of me

Agree with whole post but the bit in bold is so ******* true!!!

[Stitch]

New clip shown on BBC America from The Time of Angels


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQuSQ38mUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQuSQ38mUs)

[Chris]

That clip was AWESOME!!!!!

'We haven't landed'

'Yes we have'

'But it didnt make that noise'

'What noise'

'You know... *doctor makes the noise*'

'It's not surposed to, you leave the break on'

Lol@that. ^^

Btw why was rose at the end?

[Stitch]

Btw why was rose at the end?

I think it was one of them shows which goes over what Doctor Who is about. A bit like what they had for Lost before it started this year.

[dbgtz]

I think the only reason daleks appeared in this series is to give a legiment reason for return next time and introduce new design. Also the daleks aren't really overrated, they're hilarious like hell.

Anyway a bit off topic but I found this series 2 outtake video and thought I'd share it as some of the bits aren't based on the story but are just piss abouts :L

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVBFB0OOUdI

[Lost_Addict]

Worst episode so far -.- next episode llok intresting. and ***** and the powerangers nad you leave the breaks on. XD

[dbgtz]

I agree, and I think it's the worst episode since the beginning of series 2 (I didn't watch much of s1)

[Cosmic]

I liked it. Although, I half expected the Daleks to start going 'it's morphin' time'.
sorely disappointed at that :(

[Jam]

Does the destruction of the 'impure' daleks mean the classic voice is now gone?

[JACKTARD]

i didnt notice any change in the voice

[Niall!]

New trailer looks immense, but it appears this isn't the first time they've met either.

[Chris]

New trailer looks immense, but it appears this isn't the first time they've met either.

They first met back in the Library in series 4. It was a double ep and one of them was called 'Silence in the library'. It was a great story so I'm hopeful for this one.

[dbgtz]

Well the doctor met her first time there and this is (probs) the first time she meets him.

[ecstasy]

Is the woman he met in Silence in the Library (and the woman that hes gonna meet again) the woman that knew his name and told him that he could open the TARDIS by clicking his fingers?

[Inseriousity.]

Well the doctor met her first time there and this is (probs) the first time she meets him.

timey wimey wibbly wobbly :D
It's not the first time she meets him, she knows how to use the tardis controls in that clip!

[Chris]

timey wimey wibbly wobbly :D
It's not the first time she meets him, she knows how to use the tardis controls in that clip!

And she knows how to land it properly. :p

Haha

[dbgtz]

so? there is more then one tardis :L quote: "Experts are finding TARDISes everywhere" (journeys end I think so)

[Fez]

My friend speculates Tennant was seen on the TARDIS film set. The finale of Series 5 is set during Journey's End, hence why Amy can't remember the Daleks.

All the enemies crash out of the crack and come to kill the Doctor, and they do until Amy pushes a reset button... probably.

[Inseriousity.]

so? there is more then one tardis :L quote: "Experts are finding TARDISes everywhere" (journeys end I think so)

OMG RIVER SONG'S A DALEK IN DISGUISE, good thinking. we might be onto something here :p

[dbgtz]

My friend speculates Tennant was seen on the TARDIS film set. The finale of Series 5 is set during Journey's End, hence why Amy can't remember the Daleks.

All the enemies crash out of the crack and come to kill the Doctor, and they do until Amy pushes a reset button... probably.

That's actually a good idea, but probably wayyy off.

[Inseriousity.]

My friend speculates Tennant was seen on the TARDIS film set. The finale of Series 5 is set during Journey's End, hence why Amy can't remember the Daleks.

All the enemies crash out of the crack and come to kill the Doctor, and they do until Amy pushes a reset button... probably.

If she couldn't remember that, surely she'd remember Doomsday. It'd have been all over the news even if she does live in a sleepy little village :P

[samsaBEAR]

the fact she can't remember canary wharf is definitely going to be a huge plot device, i kinda hope the doctor's almost daughter comes back

[Chris]

I'm not sure if anyone here watched SJA but i'm sure this article will be pleasing if you do...



Guess WHO's on SJA?!

It's only MATT SMITH and KATY MANNING!

Digital Spy have reported that the "special two part story" will see "The Doctor reunited with Sarah Jane (Elisabeth Sladen) and fellow former companion Jo Grant (Katy Manning)." The episode is being penned by Russell T Davies, which marks the first time he will have written for the Eleventh Doctor!

"Viewers are in for a real treat, with an action-packed story, full of Russell's usual wit and warmth," says Nikki Wilson, co-executive producer, "which takes the gang inside a secret base beneath Snowdon and introduces brand new vulture aliens, the mysterious Shansheeth. All this, plus a trip to an alien planet - a first for The Sarah Jane Adventures."

Other guest stars include Primeval's Laila Rouass and Harry Potter's David Bradley as the voice of the Shansheeth. http://planetgallifrey.blogspot.com/2010/04/guess-whos-on-sja.html

Will be good imo.

[dbgtz]

SJA is crap imo.

[Stitch]

I own SJA series 1 and 2 boxsets and I plan to get the third :P

Looking forward to that episode. I find some of them a bit boring but most of them are alright.

[Lost_Addict]

SJA is aimed at a younger audience thought. Like torchwood is aimed at an older audience

I WANT TORCHWOOD BACK >:(

[iBlueBox]

SJA is aimed at a younger audience thought. Like torchwood is aimed at an older audience

I WANT TORCHWOOD BACK >:(

Oh Torchwood just rocks.

Russel T Davis is penning down an american version of the for FOX xD

[dbgtz]

what's the point of an american version of torchwood? :S
lol imagine an american doctor who, it will be a flying time machine in the shape of a mc donalds.

[Chris]

Sja is something that keeps me going until doctor who stats again. Anyway, i do miss torchwood, i wish they would make a new series with Jack, Gwen and two new people. Martha and Micky would go well i reckon. Micky can be the computer geek.

[samsaBEAR]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l158evRxRx1qzcn2jo1_500.jpghttp://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l158evRxRx1qzcn2jo1_500.jpg
this made me lol

[dbgtz]

well at least we could rule the world.

[Verrou]

Dunno if this has been posted: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/19/doctor-who-the-adventure-games-premieres-june-5-teaser-revea/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD3gJPM0A3I
Do want.

[Niall!]

It's wednesday.

No clips?

[dbgtz]

maybe they want to keep this more secret

[Chris]

Yeah i was disappointed. I guess it will be more of a surprise though.

[Stitch]

Clips are here! Here's all 3 in one video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8FiSEOGIyw

[Chris]

Ahh shame it's set before the library. :/

lol@spoilers. :D

[Stitch]

Ahh shame it's set before the library. :/

lol@spoilers. :D

It can't be set after it for River Song because she died in the library episodes.

[Fez]

This is gonna be good.

[Verrou]

So it is set before the library for obvious reasons, but after they have travelled together?

[Stitch]

So it is set before the library for obvious reasons, but after they have travelled together?

I think it's set after they met for the first time because she knows how to fly the TARDIS in one of the clips.

[Chris]

It can't be set after it for River Song because she died in the library episodes.

Ahh yes, so she did. My bad. xD

[dbgtz]

I think it's set after they met for the first time because she knows how to fly the TARDIS in one of the clips.

"Experts are finding TARDISes everywhere" - Journeys end

[Niall!]

"Experts are finding TARDISes everywhere" - Journeys end

Err, what?

I think you mean what the Doctor said while explaining that his shields wouldn't work, and it was nothing like that. It was

"Experts at fighting TARDISes, they can get through anything" while talking about the Daleks.

[dbgtz]

damn you found my secret
anyway im sure there is more than 1 tardis

[Fez]

damn you found my secret
anyway im sure there is more than 1 tardis

The Master had a TARDIS

Probably mentioned if he "lost it" or something, but it still does exist.

[Niall!]

He had one, it's obviously lost at the end of the Universe.

[dbgtz]

ERROR: When the doctor and amy leave the TARDIS they go out of the door but when they're out they are to the side of it. And then he salutes?

Also I'd like to know how weeping angels reproduce.

[Shar]

Do not blink...

Explosive episode :O

[Fez]

Now THAT was awesome.

[Chris]

Hmm, if River escaped from prison and the doc and amy actually see the crack next episode then maybe she belongs to that prison?

Very interesting episode. I wonder why they are killing the people by breaking their necks though instead of sending them back.

Hmm

[dirrty]

very good episode imo, and can't wait until next week!

[marriott0.01]

I almost had a heart attack they can't end it like that :'(

[Inseriousity.]

great episode, thats how you bring back an enemy :D

[dogboy123]

I watched other Dr Who's, but I just lost intrest in this one already. Its all the same

[dbgtz]

Yeah I don't get why they broke their neck. They kind of reinvented them in some ways such as that and other things. I predicted he would say "me" when he says what not to put in a trap :L

[Lost_Addict]

Wow great episode, but next weeks looks to outdo this one by a mile

[Chris]

Yeah next week will definitely be better. I'm glad that Doc and Amy have found the crack this time.

[Niall!]

Can't wait for next week, honestly I'll be thinking only about next Saturday.

[ecstasy]

forgot that this was gonna be a 2 parter so when it ended i was like OWOT :(

and i really cant get my head around how river songs' past is the doctors future and they're meeting in the wrong order. somebody clear it up for me :'(

[dbgtz]

Because the doctor first met her at her death. Basically the "wrong order" is the wrong order of his regeneration as generally companions meet him in the order of his regenerations.

[ecstasy]

Still confused. I think i'll just accept it instead of understanding it

[kk.]

Yeah I don't get why they broke their neck. They kind of reinvented them in some ways such as that and other things. I predicted he would say "me" when he says what not to put in a trap :L

Considering it's been in the promos I bet anyone guessed he was gonna say me :P

[Niall!]

She's The Doctor, or a gallifreyan.

Expert at driving the TARDIS, doesn't want the Doctor to find out who she is.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

[kk.]

She's The Doctor, or a gallifreyan.

Expert at driving the TARDIS, doesn't want the Doctor to find out who she is.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
I thought you couldn't cross timelines tho if she was the doctor? Like the doctor couldn't go back and slap himself?

[Niall!]

If he doesn't know it's himself, it's fine.

[Stitch]

Still confused. I think i'll just accept it instead of understanding it

It's really confusing and when I try to explain it my mind just goes all timey wimey :P I'll try.

Lets say River Song first met the Doctor during his 13th incarnation. Here is her timeline which we have seen so far including the bit I just made up about which Doctor she met.


River Song meets 13th Doctor
She meets (unless she's met him before) 11th Doctor in The Time of Angels
She meets 10th Doctor in Silence in the Library
Dies (Well she's living in the virtual world now) in Forest of the Dead
So when the Doctor (10) first met her she had already known him for a long time. When the she first meets the Doctor he will already know who she is.


I thought you couldn't cross timelines tho if she was the doctor? Like the doctor couldn't go back and slap himself?

He's met his past incarnations before in The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and Time Crash.

[22andy2231]

omg new darleks luk class. . . new doctor is cooler. . new woman is nicer :P:P

also the angles 1 is excellent. . bascially new series is immence love it so far

[Fez]

I speculate that River Song is an anagram of something so Moffet can pull a twinky and mess with our heads.

Since Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, time can be changed, I speculate that the supreme Daleks wiped out every inferior Dalek out of the sky. This is why all the cracks exist, init.

Along with this, River will die before she is supposed to, for the dramah! The old guy the Doctor was with, during Forest, will sacrifice himself instead.

Amy will be dumped at the end of series 6, I even predict Moff will go one step ahead and kill her off entirely. Or offer the Doctor a choice, the Earth or Amy or something.

Another thing: if the cracks go both ways, that means all the enemies the Doc has faced in the episodes so far, can come back. I think this will happen in the finale and end up with the Doctor having more than a bad hair day.

[kk.]

I speculate that River Song is an anagram of something so Moffet can pull a twinky and mess with our heads.

Since Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, time can be changed, I speculate that the supreme Daleks wiped out every inferior Dalek out of the sky. This is why all the cracks exist, init.

Along with this, River will die before she is supposed to, for the dramah! The old guy the Doctor was with, during Forest, will sacrifice himself instead.

Amy will be dumped at the end of series 6, I even predict Moff will go one step ahead and kill her off entirely. Or offer the Doctor a choice, the Earth or Amy or something.

Another thing: if the cracks go both ways, that means all the enemies the Doc has faced in the episodes so far, can come back. I think this will happen in the finale and end up with the Doctor having more than a bad hair day.

I really like amy :( but I'm sure I heard they're both returning for the next series.. In fact, that's what you meant I think cus you said season 6, nevermind!!

Also, river song doesn't have that many anagrams :P
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Riversong&t=1000&a=n

[Fez]

I think her name has some meaning.

Yeah this current series is 5, next is 6. I think Karen only has a two year contract (no negotiation) so I dunno.

Just me but I'd like Captain Jack as a permanent crew member, would be interesting and would boost the audience. Because. Two men in a thing that's bigger on the inside.

Ooooo yeah

[kk.]

I think her name has some meaning.

Yeah this current series is 5, next is 6. I think Karen only has a two year contract (no negotiation) so I dunno.

Just me but I'd like Captain Jack as a permanent crew member, would be interesting and would boost the audience. Because. Two men in a thing that's bigger on the inside.

Ooooo yeah

I know what you mean about the name, something about it which just sounds like it's relevant.

And lol@that

[Pigperson]

Tbh I swear this series is that bit more confusing than the previous series.

Pretty interesting though, I want to see part 2 :)

Will

[dbgtz]

I speculate that River Song is an anagram of something so Moffet can pull a twinky and mess with our heads.

Since Amy doesn't remember the Daleks, time can be changed, I speculate that the supreme Daleks wiped out every inferior Dalek out of the sky. This is why all the cracks exist, init.

Along with this, River will die before she is supposed to, for the dramah! The old guy the Doctor was with, during Forest, will sacrifice himself instead.

Amy will be dumped at the end of series 6, I even predict Moff will go one step ahead and kill her off entirely. Or offer the Doctor a choice, the Earth or Amy or something.

Another thing: if the cracks go both ways, that means all the enemies the Doc has faced in the episodes so far, can come back. I think this will happen in the finale and end up with the Doctor having more than a bad hair day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_(song) - look at the overview (first sentance).

River won't die I think but I like the idea about the new daleks wiping out the old ones, but I doubt it. Also I suspect Amy will be dumped at the end of this series, but I wouldn't know why.l

Also I still think the crack means nothing.

[Jam]

I still think the crack means nothing.

Its a recurring thing, why would they keep putting it in if it didn't mean anything? Its just like that 'Bad Wolf' thing from Series 1.