Apple Event - January 27th

[xxMATTGxx]

Engadget, Ars Technica, and others are reporting that Apple has issued invitations for a media event scheduled for 10:00 AM Pacific Time on January 27th. The event will be held at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, and the invitation's tag line reads "Come see our latest creation."

Apple had been rumored earlier this month to have scheduled a media event for that date and location, and the company is widely expected to introduce its highly-anticipated tablet device at the event.

Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/18/apple-issues-invitations-for-january-27th-media-event/

What are we all expecting? Tablet is probably one of the main ones everyone is expecting. But anything else? :P

[GommeInc]

Probably another iPhone which everyone will wet themselves over because it has a feature phones have had for well over 10 years. But other than that, the tablet I guess :/

[xxMATTGxx]

Probably another iPhone which everyone will wet themselves over because it has a feature phones have had for well over 10 years. But other than that, the tablet I guess :/

I don't think they will do the iPhone this event until at least June/July like previous years. :P

[dirrty]

no doubt whatever they bring out will be very good, but out of my price range :( i hope the tablet isn't too expensive (but it probably will lol).

[kk.]

Probably another iPhone which everyone will wet themselves over because it has a feature phones have had for well over 10 years. But other than that, the tablet I guess :/

why does everyone hate on the iphone? its quite clear that its one of the most useable phones around, and most popular. yes ok, it shouldve had copy and paste, and mms, and a camera etc etc, but what people arent realising is that it brought so much more. It focused on usability. Apps, google maps, touch screen technology, and of course included the ipod..

im not too sure what to expect but id hope i see something good lol.

[Recursion]

Probably another iPhone which everyone will wet themselves over because it has a feature phones have had for well over 10 years. But other than that, the tablet I guess :/

Agreed.

@Kk, Google Maps?? I had that on my N95 2 years before the iPhone came out :|

Apple keynotes just aren't exciting or new anymore.

[kk.]

i know what i meant lol. its brought about the ability to interlink apps so you can search for restaurants, then find it on a map, get directions etc.

couldnt do that before right? i honestly dont know but i didnt think you could lol :P

[adaym]

why does everyone hate on the iphone? its quite clear that its one of the most useable phones around, and most popular. yes ok, it shouldve had copy and paste, and mms, and a camera etc etc, but what people arent realising is that it brought so much more. It focused on usability. Apps, google maps, touch screen technology, and of course included the ipod..

im not too sure what to expect but id hope i see something good lol.
because my n97 does the same and more as the iphone and better and for less price. same with many phones. i hate my n97 by the way - i just don't 'agree' with the iphone fad.

[GommeInc]

i know what i meant lol. its brought about the ability to interlink apps so you can search for restaurants, then find it on a map, get directions etc.

couldnt do that before right? i honestly dont know but i didnt think you could lol :P
Oh yes, the app side of things is pretty cool, but the phone lets it down big time :P

[kk.]

because my n97 does the same and more as the iphone and better and for less price. same with many phones. i hate my n97 by the way - i just don't 'agree' with the iphone fad.

i hated the N97 too when my brother got it. was a useless unresponsive piece of crap, which is where the iphone reigns high. By far it is the best touch screen ive used, and ive used several..

[Recursion]

i know what i meant lol. its brought about the ability to interlink apps so you can search for restaurants, then find it on a map, get directions etc.

couldnt do that before right? i honestly dont know but i didnt think you could lol :P

You could indeed do it before iPhone came along :P

[The Professor]

I'm gonna put money on it not being the tablet

[MrPinkPanther]

The iPhone technically isn't that amazing although it includes a decent processor, ram and multi-touch. However software is where it comes into it's own. Whatever you say, it is indisputable that it has the best appstore on the market and the widest array of applications available. Yes it may be expensive but on a phone vs phone basis then I'd say it's the best on the market by a significant margin.

[adaym]

i hated the N97 too when my brother got it. was a useless unresponsive piece of crap, which is where the iphone reigns high. By far it is the best touch screen ive used, and ive used several..
nothing wrong with it's touchscreen.

the camera's better. it can even shoot video, like phones have done since the dawn of time. it also plays music, 32gb worth if you wish. it has maps, gps, sat nav, apps (ovi store) and a physical keyboard instead of a fiddly touchscreen ones etc etc.

i'm not bigging the n97 up because it's far from perfect, i'm contemplating getting another phone (not iphone, unless price comes down). there's nothing wrong with the iphone - it's great - it's just that it's WAY overpriced.

[HotelUser]

Agreed.

@Kk, Google Maps?? I had that on my N95 2 years before the iPhone came out :|

Apple keynotes just aren't exciting or new anymore.

I agree, and I might be an android guy but I'll still admit the iPhone makes that crapberry and windows mobile look like a piece of junk that shouldn't have existed.


no doubt whatever they bring out will be very good, but out of my price range :( i hope the tablet isn't too expensive (but it probably will lol).

I'm still saving up for that 27" iMac :(

[kk.]

nothing wrong with it's touchscreen.

the camera's better. it can even shoot video, like phones have done since the dawn of time. it also plays music, 32gb worth if you wish. it has maps, gps, sat nav, apps (ovi store) and a physical keyboard instead of a fiddly touchscreen ones etc etc.

i'm not bigging the n97 up because it's far from perfect, i'm contemplating getting another phone (not iphone, unless price comes down). there's nothing wrong with the iphone - it's great - it's just that it's WAY overpriced.

it seemed to me to be unresponsive like most i think ive seen. 3GS shoots video? Its much easier to transfer music on an iphone if youve already had an ipod, no additional software needed etc. i find the qwerty keyboards on blackberrys and on the N97 really tiny and hard to use. The iphone dedicates a lot of screen space to it and enlarges the letters.

I do agree though that it is slightly over priced, but its apple, what are you gonna do lol :P

[Markeh]

Rumour is (according to Engadget) that they might be launching a 22-inch touchscreen iMac.

[adaym]

Rumour is (according to Engadget) that they might be launching a 22-inch touchscreen iMac.
yippee.

a touchscreen is a novelty for computers, can't see an advantage.

[danzooo]

To be honest people who point out the fact that the iPhone's technology is old hat has clearly never owned one themselves - it's not about that, it's the appeal of the iPhone that makes it so exciting whenever any changes are made to it. It's a beautiful piece of gadgetry that is just so well put together, the interface is perfect and it is capable of so much - it's just a shame that Apple have so many restrictions on what app developers can and can't do.

Anyway this media event sounds exciting - the tablet is most likely what will be unveiled along with the iPhone 4. I reckon they will be more geared towards Mac-related things though, maybe new designs for the Mac Pro, or a new AirPort wireless connection system?

[Turbocom]

I wanna say the Tablet (iSlate) probably an update to the iPod line or an update to the Mac Display or something.

@danzoooo they won't release iPhone 4th generation they usually do that in June/July we are way to early for that.

[HotelUser]

I wanna say the Tablet (iSlate) probably an update to the iPod line or an update to the Mac Display or something.

@danzoooo they won't release iPhone 4th generation they usually do that in June/July we are way to early for that.

Just what I need a $3,000 dollar tablet. I'll have to cash in some of those gold bars I keep in my basement.

[The Professor]

You don't know you need it until Steve Jobs tells you you do :P

[iBlueBox]

i only just got an imac for christmas, i hope its not a new touch screen imac x] would i be able to swop? LOL.

[Recursion]

i only just got an imac for christmas, i hope its not a new touch screen imac x] would i be able to swop? LOL.

Nope. LOL

That's the problem with Macs, you buy one then 3 months later it's out of date.

[iBlueBox]

Nope. LOL

That's the problem with Macs, you buy one then 3 months later it's out of date.

Oh well il just get the new one of there will be one when its out, but i highly think it will be a tablet. xD

[GommeInc]

A Touchscreen iMac would be useful for some, alot of people seem to use them in their kitchens as a sort of media device so the less space the better. Not an amazing feature (been around for years/decades), but a plausible one at that :)

[Flisker]

I think if the Tablet does come out they will somehow make it interact with Macs so it can be used as a drawing pad like the Bamboo thing.

[iBlueBox]

I think if the Tablet does come out they will somehow make it interact with Macs so it can be used as a drawing pad like the Bamboo thing.


Roamers are that its going to called the iSlate , and will cost $1000 ( dont know what it is in £'s )

[Flisker]

Roamers are that its going to called the iSlate , and will cost $1000 ( dont know what it is in £'s )
I heard it will cost under $1,000

[xxMATTGxx]

I heard it will cost under $1,000

We will see, we are talking about Apple here who charge £510 for a small machine. (Mac Mini) :P

[Jahova]

Too right ^

[DaveTaylor]

Something will come out put it that way, The tablet if it comes out will come out, due to the trademark register of iPad, it seems possible. To be honest, I am hoping for 4.0 OS most of all, just wait and see.

[HotelUser]

Maybe they can release 10.6.3 too, .2's been out for ages.

[Laurensh1]

I have no idea, just gotta wait...

[adaym]

I have no idea, just gotta wait...
What a fantastic addition to the conversation, forum moderator.

[Metric1]

I don't know what the whole hype about touch screen/tablet PC is? The only place I have ever seen a tablet PC used was at Paragon Honda in Woodside and at Lakeview Mercedes in Rockville. When you pull your car in to the service bay you give them the keys and they take the tablet to the car and record the mileage and what needs to be done. The last time I took the car in for servicing they didn't even use the tablet.

A large touch screen display seems like too much work to me.

[Recursion]

I don't know what the whole hype about touch screen/tablet PC is? The only place I have ever seen a tablet PC used was at Paragon Honda in Woodside and at Lakeview Mercedes in Rockville. When you pull your car in to the service bay you give them the keys and they take the tablet to the car and record the mileage and what needs to be done. The last time I took the car in for servicing they didn't even use the tablet.

A large touch screen display seems like too much work to me.

I find them extremely useful, if they make it so you can rest your arm on the screen and write with a stylus it could very well take over traditional paper notepads.

[Colin-Roberts]

Touchscreen would be good for video editing & garageband work in my opinion

[StefanWolves]

Tablet & OS 4.0 for iPod Touch/iPhone models will be released I think. According to the many many rumors going about anyway, it seems the most realistic too.

[Jam]

Been waiting for the Tablet for a while, hoping its >£600.

[Recursion]

Been waiting for the Tablet for a while, hoping its >£600.

You want it over £600? Why? :S Unless you meant <?

[Luke]

You want it over £600? Why? :S Unless you meant <?

Think he meant upto £600 :P

[StefanWolves]

A CEO of some huge billion dollar book company that works closely with Apple has already confirmed it & possible a new iPhone operating system

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/26/mcgraw-hills-ceo-confirms-apple-tablet-debuting-tomorrow/

Watch the video (skip to 3:00)

=)

[xxMATTGxx]

Probably going to happen, everyone should expect a big price tag for it though. Unless Apple have had some serious thinking in the passed couple of months and its an ideal price. :P

[HotelUser]

Probably going to happen, everyone should expect a big price tag for it though. Unless Apple have had some serious thinking in the passed couple of months and its an ideal price. :P

Maybe they'll announce actual competitive pricing with HP Acer and Toshiba. If that happens goodbye Microsoft.

[Turbocom]

Maybe they'll announce actual competitive pricing with HP Acer and Toshiba. If that happens goodbye Microsoft.
oh that will never happen, you pay for the name and quality.

[HotelUser]

oh that will never happen, you pay for the name and quality.

Some Apple products are outrageously expensive.

[MrPinkPanther]

OS 4.0 just what I need, even more deprecated code. Actually ill be excited to see what they add to it because I can't really think of much that will warrant a full software version apart from maybe multitasking.

[Misawa]

It is the Tablet. My Screenjabber Editor is going to the London event today.

[Markeh]

I'm breaking off from homework to read Engadgets writeup at 6 :D

[iBlueBox]

Defiantly a tablet. ive been told it will be based around the iphone OS , and will not cost more then £700 ( what seems a very good price ) and will have a front screen camera.

[The Professor]

Why james? I'd want it to be cheap not expensive!

EDIT: 4got to quote but cba :D

[Markeh]

If it's around £500, I might save up and treat myself eventually.

[Sly]

I didn't see this thread until today.
Was it the Tablet after all?

[HotelUser]

I didn't see this thread until today.
Was it the Tablet after all?

According to a lot of sources yes but the event hasn't started yet. It starts at 6PM. see: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/

[iBlueBox]

anywhere where i can watch it live?

[Jordy]

Read some rumours it'll be around $800 in the US on contract with Verizon, I assume that's overall and it would include airtime/internet access. Or $1000 directly from Apple themselves?

Add on the UKs "Apple Tax" and we're looking at £550-800.

[Chippiewill]

anywhere where i can watch it live?

They probably wont go inside but TWiT is going to take a portable streaming rig, you can view their stream starting at 17:00 at: http://live.twit.tv

EDIT: THEY'VE STARTED!!!!!!!!

http://live.twit.tv

Edit2: If you can't see the conference centre, don't worry. They're going back and forth between their studio and the event.

[HotelUser]

They probably wont go inside but TWiT is going to take a portable streaming rig, you can view their stream starting at 17:00 at: http://live.twit.tv

EDIT: THEY'VE STARTED!!!!!!!!

http://live.twit.tv

Edit2: If you can't see the conference centre, don't worry. They're going back and forth between their studio and the event.

But the event doesn't start for another hour doesn't it?

edit: the girl in that thing just asked if it's going to run Android. She seems quite smart :|

[Chippiewill]

But the event doesn't start for another hour doesn't it?

edit: the girl in that thing just asked if it's going to run Android. She seems quite smart :|

Dr Kiki did? She's not a very techie person tbh, she's a host which they hired to give Leo some time off when he needed it.

Also they're talking with people outside the event

Edit: Oh, that might of been when they were making joke guesses such as it will have an inbuilt hotplate to keep coffee warm or w/e.

[kk.]

cant get the link to work :( is there any other stream available?

[Chippiewill]

cant get the link to work :( is there any other stream available?

Urm:

http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte
http://www.justin.tv/twit#r=v1a8ikY

[kk.]

Urm:

http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte
http://www.justin.tv/twit#r=v1a8ikY

thannkss :)

[HotelUser]

We are watching the future!!!1

The expensive unknown apple version of the future!

[Chippiewill]

-gargles at the description of the conference-

[HotelUser]

The girl in the stream seems to have absolutely no clue about what she's doing.

[Chippiewill]

-can't wait for the iHarmonica-

[HotelUser]

-can't wait for the iHarmonica-

Haha they just said that on my stream

[StefanWolves]

Are they broadcasting a live stream from the event itself or just this phone line thing?

[Chippiewill]

Bob Dylan is pretty awesome to be honest, it's a good choice of music. Oh and music is getting louder, 'Like a rolling stone' is an awesome song.


Are they broadcasting a live stream from the event itself or just this phone line thing?

Right now it's just phone, they may whip out the camera on the laptop soon though. Wi-Fi is out atm though

Edit: AMGZ, Clapping n' stuff this is awesome!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0039-rm-eng.jpg

Edit2: Wow 140,000 Apps on app store!

Woz and Jobs:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0059-rm-eng.jpg

Hahaha:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0071-rm-eng.jpg




AMAGZ:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0081-rm-eng.jpg

[HotelUser]

anyone have video of the event? I just got audio:@

[Technologic]

I thought he was saying overpriced at first... but he was saying global device :p

[The Professor]

http://cnettv.cnet.com/9776-19709_53-0.html?tag=contentBottom;cat19709 cnet's buzz out loud covering it

[xxMATTGxx]

And it's called the "iPad"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0096-rm-eng.jpg

[Markeh]

DAMN It looks good. I will have to buy one now :D

[StefanWolves]

Woo for the iPad

[Chippiewill]

I think this is a joke, it's the worst name and it's the obvious design. I reckon that steve is just going to whip out another device in a bit.

[HotelUser]

And their stock drops $3.00 a share and continues declining

[xxMATTGxx]

Is this serious? It's shocking. :l

"10:15AM No flash here... the missing plugin icon is on screen." LOOL

[HotelUser]

down 5-6 dollars a share seriously?

[Favourtism]

Its just a big ipod touch :S

[HotelUser]

Its just a big ipod touch :S

I already have a netbook with a real keyboard and an actual web browser

[StefanWolves]

Am I the only one that thinks it looks like an ugly picture frame?

[Technologic]

Steamrolled ipod touch...

[Chippiewill]

I'm going to be pissed if they don't at least have bob dylan

[StefanWolves]

Wow I'm so underwhelmed. He hasn't even mentioned multi-tasking on it yet. That and the fact it doesn't have Flash (didn't load when he visited Apple.com), and also he keeps making mistakes when trying to type.

[MrPinkPanther]

I'm going to be pissed if they don't at least have bob dylan

Same. <3 Bobby D :D

I have a question for Steve. What does this have that an iPhone doesn't? The iPhone was supposed to get rid of big gadgets, to shrink them down, he's just made it big again.

[Recursion]

One word for the iPad: "Disappointment".

[The Professor]

Lol @ iTampon

[Jordy]

iPad is a bit of an odd name, I hadn't heard it suggested before surprisingly. Sounds too much like an iPod.

The likes of emailing, calendar and address book look amazing on it, however the home screen looks terrible and so does the device in general with the typical "one button" in the bottom centre. I'm yet to be surprised by this, it doesn't look like they've whipped something awesome and new out the bag, simply the larger iPhone as expected.

[StefanWolves]

So far yet its a disappointment. SO FAR.

I don't even think it multitasks, no flash? NO FLASH??"?!?!?

[MrPinkPanther]

Don't label it a failure. Hes not done. I'm just waiting for "Oh and one more thing".

[HotelUser]

It's borderline lame but in 10 years I think mobile devices like this are going to be mainstream in work and school settings and for a lot of day-to-day life. Sure having a full OS like Windows 7 or OS X on a mobile device like this is the best, but we have to make the transition to devices like this where the device is in an "always on always ready" state without consuming much juice when we're not using it. Google and Apple are already in play here. If this is a market to be exploited Microsoft better not miss out again *cough iphone, android*

[Markeh]

***? Engadget site won't load now :@:@

[MrPinkPanther]

Yeh i've hopped it over to:
http://live.gizmodo.com/

[Jordy]

It's borderline lame but in 10 years I think mobile devices like this are going to be mainstream in work and school settings and for a lot of day-to-day life. Sure having a full OS like Windows 7 or OS X on a mobile device like this is the best, but we have to make the transition to devices like this where the device is in an "always on always ready" state without consuming much juice when we're not using it. Google and Apple are already in play here. If this is a market to be exploited Microsoft better not miss out again *cough iphone, android*An ENORMOUS amount of Zune Phone rumours (And evidence) has been floating around the past few days so a Microsoft Phone this year is looking likely atm (Along with Windows Mobile 7) :D

[xxMATTGxx]

Isn't the reason for no "flash" because there is no flash for the iPhone either?

http://news.metaparadigma.de/wp-content/gallery/iphone-flash/flash-on-iphone.jpg

[Chippiewill]

Hahaha, the Nexus One has a just as powerful processor.

Edit: Holy, 10 Hours of Battery

[Jahova]

iTablet would have been a better name. It sounds silly after iPod. Anyway, I want to know pricing. Does anyone know of a live VIDEO or AUDIO stream of the presentation?

[StefanWolves]

That's true. So surely this tablet improves the chances of the iPhone eventually getting flash? unless they can put flash on the one device without putting it on the other?

[xxMATTGxx]

Hahaha, the Nexus One has a just as powerful processor.

Shame the iPhone doesn't yet.

[HotelUser]

An ENORMOUS amount of Zune Phone rumours (And evidence) has been floating around the past few days so a Microsoft Phone this year is looking likely atm (Along with Windows Mobile 7) :D

A zune phone would kick somethingimnotallowedtosay. I'd hope for a flashable rom for my old HTC vogue.

[StefanWolves]

1ghz processor & real bluetooth & 64gb memory ;o

wow 10 hours video time on one charge

[Jahova]

Month standby!! WOW

[MrPinkPanther]

Unless this is < £500 it's overpriced. The iPod Touch isn't that differently specced.

[StefanWolves]

If its around £500 I'm going to be excited.

[Recursion]

That's true. So surely this tablet improves the chances of the iPhone eventually getting flash? unless they can put flash on the one device without putting it on the other?

IIRC, Adobe don't want to license it to Apple, 1-0 to Andriod ;D

[The Professor]

1GHz processor is underwhelming for a device this size. Why not use intel atom?

[StefanWolves]

wow it can run all appstore apps at iphone size or ''x2'' size.

[kk.]

IIRC, Adobe don't want to license it to Apple, 1-0 to Andriod ;D

afaik, i thought it was in development?

[Jahova]

1GHz processor is underwhelming for a device this size. Why not use intel atom?
Oh yeah, forgot about the atom. I'm sure speeds of atleast 1.5 GHz with the Atom could be acheived? But then there's a heat problem aswell.

[MrPinkPanther]

I shall be downloading the new SDK later :D

[Jahova]

I shall be downloading the new SDK later :D
Same, i'm going to have a go at learning and developing :D

[StefanWolves]

I use an Atom and it gets red hot sometimes.

[Recursion]

wow it can run all appstore apps at iphone size or ''x2'' size.

Mistake IMO.


afaik, i thought it was in development?

Maybe I'm wrong then, not sure.


Still not impressed AT ALL by this thing, not very Apple at all

[Stephen!]

That looks quite bad.

[Jahova]

A silent refresh of other things.. Please?

[StefanWolves]

Underwhelming, yes, but so was the first iPhone. Apple always do crap like this. Hopefully its reasonably priced.

Theres also going to be a seperate 'iPad Store' section in the AppStore for apps designed (full screen, not like the iPhone ''x2'' mode) the Tablet.

[MrPinkPanther]

Underwhelming, yes, but so was the first iPhone. Apple always do crap like this. Hopefully its reasonably priced.
The iPhone wasn't at all? I know at the time it wasn't open to developers but it was a "holy crap" phone?

[Jahova]

Underwhelming, yes, but so was the first iPhone. Apple always do crap like this. Hopefully its reasonably priced.
I will actually probably buy one if it is decently priced. I'm sure my family will chip-in aswell. Could be nice to use around the house.

[HotelUser]

Underwhelming, yes, but so was the first iPhone. Apple always do crap like this. Hopefully its reasonably priced.

Have you ever met Apple:P

[Recursion]

The iPhone wasn't at all? I know at the time it wasn't open to developers but it was a "holy crap" phone?

Indeed it was.

And it won't be fairly priced, it'll be a rip off in the states and then nearly doubled over here in the UK.

[MrPinkPanther]

iPod Touch
Capacity: 16GB
Screen: 3.5inch
Clock speed: 833MHz, underclocked to 600MHz
Battery life: 6-22 Hours
Price: £150

If its over £500 then it is a total rip

[StefanWolves]

It all depends if its reasonably priced, If its not then I'm going to be sooo underwhelmed. No mention of an iPhone update yet. Probably won't happen at all now.

[kk.]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[MrPinkPanther]

This is for the 16GB Model.

£0-£250 - Cheap
£250 - £400 - Reasonable
£400 - £500 - Pricey
£500+ Too Expensive.

I own an iPod Touch and a Macbook, I need a low price to make me want to buy this.

[StefanWolves]

Indeed it was.

And it won't be fairly priced, it'll be a rip off in the states and then nearly doubled over here in the UK.
It may actually surprise you, but given the current exchange rate there is really only a slight difference between prices in the states and here in the UK now, this is because of how weak the £ has become and how strong the $ has come, and the fact that I was recently in the states and couldn't really pick up any bargains at all, were more or less the same prices as back home. (was only getting $1.50 for the £)

[GommeInc]

I purposely came on today to see what happens, and so far all I've seen is what looks like an iPod Touch XL with underwhelming technology. The name's pretty lousy too :/ Would it work the same way as a NetBook, or is really just an App Device? Because as far as the Windows operated "planned" devices are set out, they work similar to normal PCs and laptops, except the same power as a NetBook...

[Recursion]

iBooks? wow :rolleyes:

[MrPinkPanther]

Do you know what annoys me? Before it was announced when sites were calling it a "Giant iPhone without the phone". I just think...errr...its a giant iPod touch then...

[xxMATTGxx]

It may actually surprise you, but given the current exchange rate there is really only a slight difference between prices in the states and here in the UK now, this is because of how weak the £ has become and how strong the $ has come, and the fact that I was recently in the states and couldn't really pick up any bargains at all, were more or less the same prices as back home. (was only getting $1.50 for the £)

1,199.00 USD = 741.214 GBP

Using XE.com, according to them that's what that should be around about. But Apple sell it for £918.

[HotelUser]

iBooks? wow :rolleyes:

yeah, sort of becoming a cliche now..

[The Professor]

dont care any more, im officially disappointed

[Recursion]

dont care any more, im officially disappointed

Agreed.

[StefanWolves]

Omg matt, is that the price of it? what the ****.

[xxMATTGxx]

Omg matt, is that the price of it? what the ****.

Nope, my price is for a MacBook. Sorry! :P

[Jordy]

Bored of this, it's dragging on forever. Just announce a new iPhone update and I'll be happy.

[HotelUser]

Agreed.


dont care any more, im officially disappointed

I'm not disappointed because this is just the next transition to the future of personal computing. No more desktops or laptops. Just a screen with fast instant on software :)

[MrPinkPanther]

iWorks for iPad....now im interested....

[xxMATTGxx]

I'm not disappointed because this is just the next transition to the future of personal computing. No more desktops or laptops. Just a screen with fast instant on software :)

I will take a keyboard and mouse (physical ones) any day.

[Recursion]

I'm not disappointed because this is just the next transition to the future of personal computing. No more desktops or laptops. Just a screen with fast instant on software :)

You mean this is the start of companies not bothering to port their OS from other devices properly? It's like when people port Android from the G1 to something like a netbook, all of the icons are screwed up etc. :|

[StefanWolves]

Nope, my price is for a MacBook. Sorry! :P
I was actually going to go insane then.

I can still get it that price with student discount (or very close to) :P

Answer for everything me (h)

[Favourtism]

http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
this looks 999x better

[Recursion]

http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet
this looks 999x better

Hopefully this will bring something decent to the Tablet community when/if it's released.

[MrPinkPanther]

YES! SPREADSHEETS!

[iBlueBox]

i love it, i could imagine me using this every where and just popping it in my bag.

seeing as i only have, £4, i better start saivng and get a saturday job.

[Favourtism]

If the iPhone 3GS PAYG is like £500, this has got to be more theoretically

[StefanWolves]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb457.jpg

What an ugly homescreen inside an ugly picture frame!

least you can change backgrounds........

If all this has had to of been updated for the 'iPad', surely there must be updates to the iPhones OS?

[Recursion]

What I like is the fact they have acknowledged we still need computers because everything has to be synced to it with iTunes...

[MrPinkPanther]

If the iPhone 3GS PAYG is like £500, this has got to be more theoretically
No, this device is more in line with the iPod Touch because the iPhone has 3G etc.

[StefanWolves]

What I like is the fact they have acknowledged we still need computers because everything has to be synced to it with iTunes...
Shot themselves in the foot their.

Does anyone know if this is even capable of multitasking yet??

[xxMATTGxx]

Come on Apple, we all want to know the price of this bloody thing.

[HotelUser]

You mean this is the start of companies not bothering to port their OS from other devices properly? It's like when people port Android from the G1 to something like a netbook, all of the icons are screwed up etc. :|

Yeah they could have, but porting it to a different architecture, redesigning the interface and making the thing have incredibly efficient standby and fast booting would have taken a long time just so I can run my un fingerfriendly apps on it. This way developers have to recreate applications with a new and better SDK too, so we will have more finger friendly applications. One of the problems with Windows Mobile is how we're still using our old dated apps with fail finger friendliness. No motivation for developers to make something better because people with winmo phones have no choice but to buy the failapps anyways.

Screw osx and windows in the future. I want light fast and efficient oses :D


I will take a keyboard and mouse (physical ones) any day.

hooking up to monitors keyboards, mice and other peripherals wirelessly is probably coming next. There was some wireless hdmi thing on engadget during CES.

[Recursion]

Shot themselves in the foot their.

Does anyone know if this is even capable of multitasking yet??

By the looks of it, it can't?

[MrPinkPanther]

Every time Steve Jobs says anything people clap. I would love it if he said "The best part? iPad is built on top of the strongest OS we know, Windows Vista", just to see how many people clap.

[Jordy]

Why can't they make a device which syncs with other portable devices?

If this could sync with iPods (or play/grab music from them) and cameras I would be much more impressed.

[Chippiewill]

iGiveUp, this is terrible.

[GommeInc]

Why can't they make a device which syncs with other portable devices?

If this could sync with iPods (or play/grab music from them) and cameras I would be much more impressed.
Sort of like Windows Surface? :P

[StefanWolves]

This could be cool if it could 'sync over the air', if you have to connect it to a PC then I don't see the point.

Have they even come to the syncing part yet?

And yeh I agree with above, syncing from my iPhone would be amazing.

[Recursion]

Owait, $9.99 for apps loll

[xxMATTGxx]

iPad having "plans"

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0364-rm-eng.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0367-rm-eng.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0369-rm-eng.jpg

[HotelUser]

$29 for unlimited data in North America? That's a freakin steal :D

[StefanWolves]

WOO 3G??? lmao

specific models only :S

[Jahova]

9.99 for iWorks. Not apps.

[kk.]

amazingly, i can actually see something like this being in every home in a couple years time

[xxMATTGxx]

"So we have a breakthrough deal in the US. We hope to have our international deals in the June / July timeframe. However, all of the iPad 3G models are unlocked, and they use the new GSM microSIMs."

[Jordy]

Sort of like Windows Surface? :PYeah exactly. They talk about all their mobiles devices and how you can include photos in documents. If you could feed photos from cameras directly into it, it would be much more useful IMO, being able to view and edit decent photos while out and about would be great for amateur photographers. And feeding ipods and phones into it too would be great.

As for wireless syncing, Windows Mobile has been able to sync over Bluetooth since 2003 but the day Apple makes it possible, it will be hailed as a brand new innovative feature |-)

[HotelUser]

"So we have a breakthrough deal in the US. We hope to have our international deals in the June / July timeframe. However, all of the iPad 3G models are unlocked, and they use the new GSM microSIMs."

Why wont he tell us the price for the device :@

Maybe that will be his oh and one last thing and it will be cheap? :P

edit: he just said $999. EXPENSIVE :@

500 dollars oh haha. I want one

[StefanWolves]

HAHAHAHA LOOKS LIKE APPLE STUCK WITH AT&T?

[Jahova]

price time!
STARTING AT
$499
$499
$499
$499
$499
$499
$499

[Favourtism]

about 300quid+ in uk

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0377-rm-eng.jpg

PLUS ANUTHA 100 dollars for 3G "/

[StefanWolves]

OMG $499

im getting one

theyll be £400 here

[xxMATTGxx]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0376-rm-eng.jpg



OMG £499

Note: It will be more expensive over here.

[MrPinkPanther]

its mine.

[Chippiewill]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0378-rm-eng.jpg

3G models cost an extra $130. $629, 729, and 829

[The Professor]

How expensive is the most expensive ipod touch?

[Jahova]

I laughed. Weren't one of you knocking it and now you are saying "I'm getting one" - LOL

@Above - $399.00

[Recursion]

$499 = £499, no exchange rates in Apple land.

[xxMATTGxx]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0378-rm-eng.jpg

[HotelUser]

HAHAHAHA LOOKS LIKE APPLE STUCK WITH AT&T?

He said it's no contract and unlocked where did you get that from:S

[StefanWolves]

****? no 3g? 16gb? $499? now that I think of it, not that good.

[StefanWolves]

but the 'groundbreaking deal' was with AT&T

$829 for the top range model? £600? lol....

Why so much more £ for 3G connectivity?????




Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't double post within the editing time.

[Recursion]

It's terrible, ill be sticking to MacBooks.

[Jordy]

Don't be fooled by the $500 price, that's about £400 still, not a bargain, just cheaper than expected.

16GBs is rather pathetic bare in mind, you'd surely want 32GB or 64GB if you want to use much video content. And of course 3G access is a must, not so cheap after all.

[Jahova]

cool little keyboard dock

[StefanWolves]

The 32GB 3G + Wifi is the most resonable choice at $729. £500 maybe. Still a bit pricey after further thinking time.

[HotelUser]

It's terrible, ill be sticking to MacBooks.

Suit yourself. Carrying around a heavier non-touchscreen laptop with terrible battery life that takes 3 minutes to turn on and requires an external 3g card or wifi doesn't sound appealing to me after seeing this though.

[StefanWolves]

Why have non 3G models? why not just have one with 3G and Wifi with the option of a rolling contract?

Don't see the logic.

Big let down so far is no camera and that its ugly.

But I won't be surprised if there is some sort an a webcam add on so Apple can rip you off even further.

[Favourtism]

How long till they release iPad 3GP including phone features "/

[StefanWolves]

The back is actually rather sexy, the front is ugly and the homescreen is disgusting. Will have to see how they look/feel in the Apple shop though before I make my final judgement

[kk.]

Why have non 3G models? why not just have one with 3G and Wifi with the option of a rolling contract?

Don't see the logic.

Big let down so far is no camera and that its ugly.

But I won't be surprised if there is some sort an a webcam add on so Apple can rip you off even further.

because i dont think id carry it around with me, id just keep it at home as a family device thing. Its paying for something im never going to use i think

[StefanWolves]

True, and if they go on O2 in the UK you can just use the Cloud wi-fi zones anyway.

[MrPinkPanther]

I think i got caught up in the price moment there. Ill test one, if I like it then ill buy one.

[xxMATTGxx]

No webcam? That could of been good for things like skype tbh. :P

[HotelUser]

I think i got caught up in the price moment there. Ill test one, if I like it then ill buy one.

I reeeeally hope Microsoft comes in soon. I'm wanting instant on Windows 7:D

[AgnesIO]

So it's a large looking photoframe, with internet access?

[xxMATTGxx]

So it's a large looking photoframe, with internet access?

More of a larger iPhone with internet access. :P

[StefanWolves]

Picture frame. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Good photo of it:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/tab28.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/ipad-vs-iphone-2.jpg

[Recursion]

Suit yourself. Carrying around a heavier non-touchscreen laptop with terrible battery life that takes 3 minutes to turn on and requires an external 3g card or wifi doesn't sound appealing to me after seeing this though.

I carry mine in sleep mode actually, takes 2 seconds to turn on and Apps load instantly nearly, if I need 3G, then WiFi/BlueTooth Tether for Root Users always comes in handy on my G1.

Proper keyboard
Proper OS
Proper Apps
All the internet plugins I could wish for
No restrictions from Apple
No hassle, just a computer.

[StefanWolves]

I thought that, no need for the 3G model as I could tether from my iPhone unlimited plan anyway. :)

[Chippiewill]

I can has with Android 2.1? Yes? :P

[HotelUser]

I carry mine in sleep mode actually, takes 2 seconds to turn on and Apps load instantly nearly, if I need 3G, then WiFi/BlueTooth Tether for Root Users always comes in handy on my G1.

Proper keyboard
Proper OS
Proper Apps
All the internet plugins I could wish for
No restrictions from Apple
No hassle, just a computer.

You get good battery life in sleep? Win7 eats my battery on the netbook:(

[StefanWolves]

I get give or take 20 minutes the same battery life as I did on XP.

The only things that are missing from this iPad are;-

- Camera on the front
- 128GB model
- Bigger Processor, 1.5 would have been nice
- Some sort of over the air syncing with iPhones/PCs.
- Sleeker design on the front
- Different OS, not the iPhones OS, at least.

Woha quite a big list their.

But I'm sure Apple will slowly introduce these over the coming years as they have done ever so slowly with the iPhone.

Oh and what happened to an iPhone OS update? nothing. Slightly disappointing.

[Recursion]

Ill give the iPad a chance, I may like it in person, never know I suppose, ill try one in the Apple store.

[StefanWolves]

Yeah, my opinion may change completely when I see it in person.

Did they mention when it would be in stores? release date?

[kk.]

Yeah, my opinion may change completely when I see it in person.

Did they mention when it would be in stores? release date?

60 days for wifi, 90 for 3G models

[StefanWolves]

April - June ;[

Would like to see it before, spose I'll have to wait! :P

[xxMATTGxx]

April - June ;[

Would like to see it before, spose I'll have to wait! :P

It would be nice for them to tell us the prices for each country. :P

[AgnesIO]

I personally think the tablet looks a great gadget to have, just er as Matt said what it looks like..

It's just a large iPhone. And the fact you can buy a clip on keyboard is mental. IS IT A TABLET OR NOT.

[HotelUser]

Ok so basically the entire page 1 of engadget is about Apple now.

[StefanWolves]

My guess is; starting pricce £379 or something along those lines. If we are lucky £349.99. But I highly doubt it.

[xxMATTGxx]

iPad Page on Apple: http://www.apple.com/ipad/

[StefanWolves]

I see.

$499 is £309, so maybe it could be as low as £329.99? although I doubt it.

[MrPinkPanther]

$999 equates to £806 in "Apple Land" so it's going to be at least £399 I'd say.

[AgnesIO]

If they price the iPad at around £350 I will be amazed. If they do I would get one. Afterall looking into what to spend the cash on, but tbh, I could get a netbook and I would get a 'keyboard' that you don't pay extra for, and I wouldn't have to put up with over priced stuff.

Did they show anything else? New iPod touches?

[xxMATTGxx]

If they price the iPad at around £350 I will be amazed. If they do I would get one. Afterall looking into what to spend the cash on, but tbh, I could get a netbook and I would get a 'keyboard' that you don't pay extra for, and I wouldn't have to put up with over priced stuff.

Did they show anything else? New iPod touches?

Nothing else was announced.

[Markeh]

I'm very tempted. Roughly around £375 for a 16Gb with no 3G, I'd say, so £500 if you want 3G. It isn't THAT expensive for Apple, really.

I'm assuming these will start being signed up to networks soon (namely 3, I'm guessing.)

[kk.]

i hope apple will finally be getting a new website. Its nice at the minute, but could do with being updated, especially now that they wont have room on the nav bar

[StefanWolves]

No they're not locked to a network, at all.

[Markeh]

No they're not locked to a network, at all.

But will that matter over here? AFAIK no networks have microSIMs?

[Recursion]

But will that matter over here? AFAIK no networks have microSIMs?

They might do a european version that uses normal SIM cards.

[AgnesIO]

Nothing else was announced.

Wow so it was the Apple iPad, not the Apple Event in the end haha

[xxMATTGxx]

They might do a european version that uses normal SIM cards.

Yeah because on the slide that mentioned micro sims, it was about a USA deal. We don't find out about international ones until later on in the year.


Wow so it was the Apple iPad, not the Apple Event in the end haha


Yeah it was an "iPad" event to be honest.

[Markeh]

They might do a european version that uses normal SIM cards.

Doubt they would.

[kk.]

Wow so it was the Apple iPad, not the Apple Event in the end haha

the apple event is in july afaik

[HotelUser]

why are the icons on the home screen spaced apart so much :S

[Markeh]

why are the icons on the home screen spaced apart so much :S

Not a clue.

But are changable backgrounds on homescreens going to be ported over to iPhone OS 4.0?

[Tomm]

Um, why is the ability to change the background seen as this amazing feature?

[Jordy]

Um, why is the ability to change the background seen as this amazing feature?Apple did it, why else?

[kk.]

Not a clue.

But are changable backgrounds on homescreens going to be ported over to iPhone OS 4.0?
hope so

Um, why is the ability to change the background seen as this amazing feature?
its not, nor has it been perceived as this has it?
i certianly didnt, which is one reason to jailbreak it

[Agnostic Bear]

Completely pointless, shouldn't sell that well either, no multitasking.

[HotelUser]

Completely pointless, shouldn't sell that well either, no multitasking.

It's called "proswitcher" :)

[StefanWolves]

They'll develop multitasking (well SHOULD) in OS 4.0 for the iPhone and iPad to keep up with android and other smart phones.

[StefanWolves]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE47BMe83W8

Now I have seen that it looks mightily impressive. Hopefully they'll bring many of those features in that OS to the iphone. E.g. Landscape springboard, mail app, etc.

[Recursion]

I changed my mind, I want one.

Birthday in August... should be just in time to see what June/July have to offer us ;D

[Jam]

Don't see why we can't get the non-3G version at the same time if the 3G network is the only dispute. Anyways only £520, so after we get screwed £599 for the 64GB 3G one. Good replacement for my old iPT.

[Tomm]

Don't think I'd want to pay a seperate contract for this. Would be better if I could get it along with a contract for a phone. i.e Phone Contract + iPad Unlimited stuff for x amount.

[Jam]

Just a question to those with iPhones, if you only google and watch the occasional YouTube video, would that use more than the 250MB contract?

[kk.]

erm, ive noticed one flaw with it.
if it doesnt have a docking station in landscape mode, most photos are in landscape mode and if you wanted to show just one photo every time, its going to look a bit silly? i mean yeh, the origami things cool, but i think i still prefer good old fashioned fade in fade out lol

[HotelUser]

erm, ive noticed one flaw with it.
if it doesnt have a docking station in landscape mode, most photos are in landscape mode and if you wanted to show just one photo every time, its going to look a bit silly? i mean yeh, the origami things cool, but i think i still prefer good old fashioned fade in fade out lol

Very good point, I wonder if that will be addressed.

[Metric1]

I think the tablet is a "fail". I was expecting the iPad to be more like a MacBook, meaning it could do mostly everything a MacBook could do, just as a tablet. The iPad is a 10" iPod Touch. I feel so much better about my MacBook purchase now.

[Invent]

erm, ive noticed one flaw with it.
if it doesnt have a docking station in landscape mode, most photos are in landscape mode and if you wanted to show just one photo every time, its going to look a bit silly? i mean yeh, the origami things cool, but i think i still prefer good old fashioned fade in fade out lol

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb560.jpg :)

Can't wait until it's released :D.

[Recursion]

They should have bought out Axiotron and used their ModBook idea.

http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook

[Chippiewill]

Soo... is this OS jailbroken yet?

[kk.]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/appletablet/appletabletb560.jpg :)

Can't wait until it's released :D.

But the whole point of using it as a photo frame was so it could charge at the same time. Plus, who'd have that cover and use something like that for displaying photos lol.

I probably won't get one anytime soon, but i'd love to hve one lol

[StefanWolves]

I'll wait for the next gen next year, haha.

Would be better with OSX instead of a modified iPhone OS.

Oh and a webcam next year, please.

[Technologic]

My mum wants to get one lol

[StefanWolves]

Yeah same with my uncle. This is a device that appeals to a more older age range, like 20-40 year olds mainly. Although It had caught my eye I must admit, but I think I'll be waiting till next year IF I do get one. :P

[RedStratocas]

i was expecting more out of the ipad other than being just a gigantic iphone. and ipad is a terrible name lol. but that being said it's relatively cheap for what it is, surprising coming from apple. i have no use for one though.