Sexuality Thread 2.0

[Sammeth.]

This is simply an updated version in case anyones answers have changed since the previous poll was made in 2005. Lets see whats new!

Link to the old thread is here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=82403).

Edited by HotelUser (Assistant General Manager): Undecided option added as requested.

[Hushie]

gaaaaay

[kk.]

obviously straight lol

[Alkaz]

GAAY :)

[Blob]

obviously straight lol

oh..

straight then :(

[Aidenn]

-is special-
Bi :)

[kk.]

oh..

straight then :(

In sorry :(

[Caution]

Asexual.

Nah, straight I think..

[Nicola]

Straight.

[Slowpoke]

I actually don't know

[Kipp]

Bisexual. :)

[Bun]

straight

[brandon]

Straight even though you might not have thought it

[Charlottay!]

straight :)

[Cosmic]

gay :)

[jackass]

I'm straight. :)

[Meree.]

Had thoughts about it.... straight :)

[Richie]

Heterosexual ;)

[AlexOC]

I'ma leave my options open.

[Keri?!]

Bisexual :)

[AlexOC]

Straight even though you might not have thought it

**** no.

[leah]

still straight

[Nixt]

I am a gay innit :D

[kk.]

I am a gay innit :D

ive always wondered why people say 'a gay' rather than gay. Ive never gone, 'im a straight' ;D

[Black_Apalachi]

str8


I am a gay innit :D

i'm so sick of your lying ;l

[Nixt]

ive always wondered why people say 'a gay' rather than gay. Ive never gone, 'im a straight' ;D

Generally I would say "I'm gay" but I just felt like being ott.

[kk.]

PROCLAIM YOUR SEXUALITY TO THE WORLD.

[Lindsey]

Straight :)

[Arch]

Straightt

[Sly]

Straight yo'

[iAdam]

Straight.

[Haaaaarry1]

Straight buuut I do have like .. tendencies lmao

[colourpot]

Straight

[ecstasy]

Straight

[Stryderman]

Straight

[wiktoria]

Straight. :)

[YoManGo!]

straight but with past gay experience. im pretty sure everyone goes through some kind of bi phase.

[United-Clowgon]

Bisexual. My mum would be disappointed if i was gay.

[Amberr]

Straight :)

[-K8T!E-]

Straight.

[Jamiie]

Straight

[-Xiangu-]

I'm bi but prefer guys so put gay ^^. x

[gangstaagent1]

bi :P lol

[sammy]

Straight :)

[Samishlol]

gay...

[DJ-Ains.T]

bi-curious/sexual

in the teen hormone period. iv been there, done gay stuff, and ye its all wierd lol.

[Shox]

I'm gay.. =p

[camera]

straight, although, girls are secretly bisexual tbh haha

[buttons]

straight, although, girls are secretly bisexual tbh haha
nah we're just attention *****s + can get away with it...
i put bisexual im just really open minded

[Kieran]

Gay :)

[VaCcAr0]

Where is the option for asexual?

[Papershop]

gay.............

[Xoim]

Bisexual. ;]

[marriott0.01]

Bisexuallll :O

[LuciieOx]

Straight... Althoughh... Wiktoria.xo is an exception xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Inseriousity.]

depend who asks.

ugly girl = gay
pretty girl = straight

:)

[hah]

depend who asks.

ugly girl = gay
pretty girl = straight

:)

are you a stunner

[Shar]

depend who asks.

ugly girl = gay
pretty girl = straight

:)

thats a real turn on Mike

[Becca]

Bisexual.
But for Gemma and James, anything you want me to be. ;)

[gangstaagent1]

Gay :]

[rnix]

bi-ish. :L

[MrGazet]

I'm more of a hetrosexual but I'm a bit attracted to the oposite sex

I like to think I'm straight though :)

[Smits]

I'm more of a hetrosexual but I'm a bit attracted to the oposite sex

I like to think I'm straight though :)

Hetrosexual means you're attracted to the opposite sex.. do you mean a bit bisexual? & a bit attracted to the same?

[MrGazet]

OMG LOL.i just realised I miss typed that :'(

I meant I'm straight but I'm a lil attracted to my own sex

but I prefer to think I;m straight

[Gemma]

Straight!

[Richie]

Straight

[HotelUser]

Jake says I'm obsessed with this, but I'm just throwing it out there:

maybe sexuality doesn't even exist!

[Nixt]

It clearly does :P. Sexuality refers to sexual desire. If sexuality didn't exist, there would be no sexual desire OR sexual desire would encompass everything. I, for one, do not understand the sexual attraction to the female reproductive organ, hence my sexual preference differs to that of other people :P - I have a different sexuality. Sexuality is used to discuss gay / straight but it also refers to sexual desire as a whole.

[Ajthedragon]

Straight. Generally quite surprised by this thread. ^.^

[kk.]

Hetrosexual means you're attracted to the opposite sex.. do you mean a bit bisexual? & a bit attracted to the same?


OMG LOL.i just realised I miss typed that :'(

I meant I'm straight but I'm a lil attracted to my own sex

but I prefer to think I;m straight

im pretty sure you wrote it right :P
you said you think youre heterosexual, but you like the same sex a bit. which is correct. Because that would only make you a little bit bi :P

[MrGazet]

O Okay.Maybe I'm a little bi loooool

[HotelUser]

O Okay.Maybe I'm a little bi loooool

just a little?

[Shar]

I'm a little lesbian

[Hollie]

straight :)

[immense]

Jake says I'm obsessed with this, but I'm just throwing it out there:

maybe sexuality doesn't even exist!

check you stealing my theory :P

gay

[SinglePringle15]

straight

[Richie]

straight

[Circadia]

straight

[Tintinnabulate]

I'ma leave my options open.

i love you too.

# Heterosexual (Straight)

[Stryderman]

Straight

[Shar]

Straight ;)

[Roxy]

I am straight

[qaxzsw]

gay xxx but I think gabriella cilmi is the most gorgeous thing to ever walk on earth. but im still gay cuz i would never date her even though i want to i wouldnt because i dont have sexual feelings for her just think she is gorgeous and would be like bfffffffs.

[Matthew]

bi ;)

[Fever]

I'm gay.

[RandomManJay]

Bi :D!

[Erotica]

I am gay.

[Lew]

Bisexual

[Moh]

I'm about 90% gay =D

[[Jay]]

Straight

[Banana Pancakes]

I'm straight.

[MrPinkPanther]

i am totally straight, its fabulous.

[.iNova.]

I like stair rails.

[MrPinkPanther]

I like stair rails.

Me too. +Rep

[Petite$]

Bi :)
oh and not another trend follower!

[Homosexual]

I like long, hard things.

[Samantha.]

I'm straight

[Charlottay!]

Straight :D

[Hitman]

i like women,.

[Samantha]

Why has some people replied more than once with the same answer? :P

I'm straight. However, I have had Bi phases :)



+ Purplejassie is always an exception

[kuzkasate]

im straight, went thru the bi phases lol.
but yeh, im straight

[JustRG3]

I'm heterosexual :)

[Mark]

Straight :)

[j0rd]

Heterosexual, straight :D

[Phil]

BI FTW!

[Homosexual]

BI FTW!

Hovis, best of both ;)

[Floreat]

Straight, I think.

[MzKx]

Straight

[Nemo]

I'm straight

[TAYLOOOOR]

I'm gay :') ... I got with my boyfriend on the 01/01/10 <3

[Dj.rhinoman]

oh. i though we had somethin. one night fling orrr? lol jk ;]

[user130523]

i think i'm gay :)

[Dj.rhinoman]

i know i'm bisexual - PROUD TOO! :) I like to look at my men just as much as I like to bobbaz my women :)

[Dandelion]

Straight.

[Slowpoke]

I'm promiscuous. ;)

[,Lexiilu]

I'm about 99% straight ;)
katy perry mmmm :love3:

[rokgal]

straight ;L

[Homosexual]

gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
ftw.

[SinglePringle15]

Straight ruler

[Homosexual]

Straight ruler

that bends?

[HotelUser]

I still believe an unsure option should be appended to the poll.

[AlexOC]

straight



what, straight yes?

I AM STRAIGHT




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[gangstaagent1]

straight



what, straight yes?

I AM STRAIGHT




*REMOVED*

We haz a funny boy here!

[Jessica.Rose]

Straight (:

[Special]

can't remember if i posted but i'm gay if you can't tell already :)

[AgnesIO]

Straight, and always will be.

[immense]

Straight, and always will be.

what a bizarre reply

you make it sound as if straight people often turn gay when they hit 21 or something

[Special]

Straight, and always will be.

how do you know you will always be straight? are you physic?

[AgnesIO]

what a bizarre reply

you make it sound as if straight people often turn gay when they hit 21 or something

Well no, but I heard when I hit puberty I might change my mind.

EDIT: As a matter of fact, I am more likely to by physic than many people. According to some physio ish person my sister used to have, people who get migraines are far more likely to be physic ;)

[immense]

Well no, but I heard when I hit puberty I might change my mind.

you haven't hit puberty :S doesn't that start at 11

not sure if i'd be surprised

[AgnesIO]

you haven't hit puberty :S doesn't that start at 11

not sure if i'd be surprised

That's right.

Obviously I have hit puberty. I think I made that rather obvious in a thread about voices :L

[immense]

sucks to be you

[flatface]

straight today, think I might go for a change and be bi tomorrow

[user130523]

..............straight (a)

























































jk gay

[T@R]

Not applicable.

I mean straight...

[Deak]

I am straight :)

[Ashgasm]

I'm straight.

[Jurv]

Straight.

[Recursion]

HETEROSEXUAL FTW

[Delimed]

Straight i think

[Eoin247]

Straight ;)

[prettyhotpixie]

im bisexual :')

[Janet Snakehole]

I'M A HOMOSEXUAL

[Gibs960]

Straight, but Alex Gaskarth is my babe!

[Agnostic Bear]

I am pansexual. No joke.

[velvet]

straight

[Ceilidh.]

I don't actually like labelling my sexuality but for the sake of this thread I'll say Heteroflexible :)

[-Soph-]

Straight.

I've experimented and stuff, it just doesn't do anything for me at all. I was so confused for about 4 years of my life, but it's pretty clear now.

[redtom]

__________________ Straight.


I am pansexual. No joke.

Really, you have no preference at all?

[Waaaak]

Straight for me.

[Aaron]

Straight :)

[Jay.]

Straight but I'm surprised at how there are more bisexuals than homosexuals

[toribbz]

hehehehhehehhehe straighhhhhttttt one hundred percenttt xoxo

[!!BeWise!!]

straight all the way!

[Aidenn]

I still believe an unsure option should be appended to the poll.

I believe another thread should be made,

considering this one is old, and someones preferences might have changed within that time (A)

[Repentance?]

according to all my family i'm a lesbian, but i'm acts straight for now! ;D

[CrazyLemurs]

See, I can't decide. I'm not really attracted to anyone, but I have unreachably high standards (which aren't fair, as I'm very low "quality"). Meh, they defo need an undecided result too.

[Mickword]

Changing mine to gay, as I said mine like 1/2 years ago!

[davecool656]

Straight

[,elaboratedolls]

Bisexual

[JaymeeNESS]

Gaysexual :)

[Rectitudinous]

Bisexual :D

[Tom]

Gay,

/longer

[Kasabian]

Straight.

[Circadia]

Straight ;3 But i have kissed girls before for dares and stuff but i wouldn't really class that as a gay experience..

[Ekelektra]

Straight :)

[Hollie.]

straight as can be :)

[Liam]

Hetrosexual

[Jordan:A]

Bi :)

-longer

[The Don]

I am straight.

[CrazyLemurs]

Gosh at being one of two undecideds, you people sure are confident in your sexies!

[Hollie.]

Straight :P

[Hollie]

straighttttt :P

[Eric]

gayyyyyy ,

[Hollie.]

Straight :)

[Ms.Aquamarine]

Straight.

[Kaseythegreat]

Straight.

[Smurfed-]

i dont even know :|

[Marbian]

human.

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[Milarz]

Straight

[toribbz]

straightt(:

[Nope]

Interesting stuff... Well, I'm a Nope, (Straight), so don't worry guys! (Notfied just in case.)

[the.games]

Don't know for sure

[spamafner]

Straight.

[Jazz]

No one knows this but yeah.. im Bisexual, I think

[Nick.]

Straight :)


Straight :P


straight as can be :)

why do we need to know three times?

[Judas]

human.

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Would you like to expand on this?

[T@R]

i'm straight but my little brother says he's bi
i don't want to judge or anything but he's only 13 so i think it might just be a phase?
when did you lot know you were bi/gay?

[alv4]

I'm Homosexual


i'm straight but my little brother says he's bi
i don't want to judge or anything but he's only 13 so i think it might just be a phase?
when did you lot know you were bi/gay?
When I was 15, but is fine, maybe is in a phase how you say but you know the gender that you like in a very early age...

[Zyzz]

Would you like to expand on this?

I think he means straight.

[Randomme]

Lol. I remember voting ages ago in here when I was thirteen about being straight. Although I've decided I'm bisexual :L

edit -


i'm straight but my little brother says he's bi
i don't want to judge or anything but he's only 13 so i think it might just be a phase?
when did you lot know you were bi/gay?

At thirteen I thought I was straight, it wasn't until the last three months of being fourteen that I knew I was bisexual.

[Jordan:A]

i'm straight but my little brother says he's bi
i don't want to judge or anything but he's only 13 so i think it might just be a phase?
when did you lot know you were bi/gay?
I knew in year 9 so I was about 14, it just varies with different people I suppose really

[Zyzz]

Lol. I remember voting ages ago in here when I was thirteen about being straight. Although I've decided I'm bisexual :L

edit -



At thirteen I thought I was straight, it wasn't until the last three months of being fourteen that I knew I was bisexual.

Don't worry pal just got to keep your head clear and ignore those feelings, getting a girlfriend will help the most. You'll soon have those ****** up feelings out of your head when a hot girl is "pleasing" you! ;)

[Judas]

I think he means straight.

Yes, so do I. If he does he needs to be drowned tbh.

[Zyzz]

Yes, so do I. If he does he needs to be drowned tbh.

Well I do see where he is coming from, humans have sexual organs and instincts that make male and female be attracted to each other.

I don't understand why anyone needs to get drowned here? :S

[Judas]

Well I do see where he is coming from, humans have sexual organs and instincts that make male and female be attracted to each other.

I don't understand why anyone needs to get drowned here? :S

Not always, hence homosexuality :rolleyes:

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is not human then you should just leave.

[Zyzz]

Not always, hence homosexuality :rolleyes:

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is not human then you should just leave.

2 males making love would be like 2 north poles of a magnet attracting each other. It goes against science. North poles are attracted to south poles just like men are attracted to woman and vice versa.

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is human then you should just leave.

[Judas]

2 males making love would be like 2 north poles of a magnet attracting each other. It goes against science. North poles are attracted to south poles just like men are attracted to woman and vice versa.

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is human then you should just leave.

No, it is nothing like that. Nothing at all. You cannot help who you are attracted to. Homosexuality is present in 1500 species and homophobia is found in only ONE. I think it's easy to see which one is natural.

[Martin]

2 males making love would be like 2 north poles of a magnet attracting each other. It goes against science. North poles are attracted to south poles just like men are attracted to woman and vice versa.

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is human then you should just leave.

I haven't read this thread properly, but that post is rather offensive and completely untrue. I think it's quite narrow minded to sit there and make assumptions like that. It is perfectly acceptable and easy for two men to fall in love and be in a loving relationship. Everyone on this planet is unique and nobody should have to follow any set "science" like you say. I think you need to sit back and take a look at the wider picture and realise that is is perfectly human and that it really isn't much different to anything else.

[Zyzz]

No, it is nothing like that. Nothing at all. You cannot help who you are attracted to. Homosexuality is present in 1500 species and homophobia is found in only ONE. I think it's easy to see which one is natural.

Homophobia is just a word thrown at people that think homosexuality is wrong. It is wrong. /thread

[HotelUser]

Homophobia is just a word thrown at people that think homosexuality is wrong. It is wrong. /thread

Actually it's a name for people who feel the need to put their nose in the business of others when they have no business doing this at all.

[Zyzz]

Actually it's a name for people who feel the need to put their nose in the business of others when they have no business doing this at all.

Or perhaps a name for people that care about their human species and don't want us to all start bumming each other.

[HotelUser]

Or perhaps a name for people that care about their human species and don't want us to all start bumming each other.

I hope you don't preach that about caring in real life, otherwise a lot of people aren't going to care about you :P

[Judas]

Or perhaps a name for people that care about their human species and don't want us to all start bumming each other.

You're probably the kind of guy that complains about the planet being overpopulated too, lol.

Call me if you need "a bum" xo


Homophobia is just a word thrown at people that think homosexuality is wrong. It is wrong. /thread

In the same way that words like "******" are thrown at people who are gay? Please :rolleyes:

I don't give a damn what you want to call it. Gay is okay and if you think otherwise then do what you want, I'm not gonna sit around and try to change the mind of someone as ignorant as yourself, but just as a word of warning, you will probably start to hate the world as change is happening fast, and you're basically gonna have to deal with it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1FrqwZyKw&ob=av3n

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll7vxpz36J1qa4vrao1_500.gif

[Zyzz]

but that post is rather offensive and completely untrue.

Completely untrue? Says who?

[Martin]

Or perhaps a name for people that care about their human species and don't want us to all start bumming each other.

Wow, are you for real? That post makes you sound extremely immature and completely uncaring about the human species if anything. You have to realise that people as individuals are different and people can do what the damn well like. There is absoutely 100% nothing wrong with being gay, and it doesn't matter who you love, who they are etc. There is a lot more to it than "bumming each other", I'm guessing you haven't found out what real love means yet, but there is a lot more to it. When you love someone you love them for the person they are, their personality and you just generally care deelply about them. It's up to the individual to decide whats right, not narrow minded people who come along saying it's not human to do so. If you are going to have such opinions it might be an idea to keep quiet about them because most of the population do care and do understand that it's fine to be whoever you are.

[Judas]

Wish I could +rep you right now Marty

[Zyzz]

Hang on a second guys, just doing my bit to balance out the strong feeling of homo itt.

http://statusar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/hot-babe1.jpg

[Judas]

Who said I was a "homo" sweetums?

[Zyzz]

Who said I was a "homo" sweetums?

It's obvious.

[Judas]

It's obvious.

Sadly mistaken :rolleyes:

[HotelUser]

It's obvious.

Perhaps he's single too, act fast whilst you can :)

[Zyzz]

Sadly mistaken :rolleyes:

Care to elaborate?

[Judas]

Care to elaborate?

I am what they call a BISEXUAL. Attracted to both sexes! This could be a difficult concept for your mind to follow but I'm sure if you give it enough thought it could break through those four walls of ignorance and we could get to some level of understanding

[Zyzz]

I am what they call a BISEXUAL. Attracted to both sexes! This could be a difficult concept for your mind to follow but I'm sure if you give it enough thought it could break through those four walls of ignorance and we could get to some level of understanding

So what are you talking about then? Attracted to the same gender = GAY! And you sir are attracted to the same gender.

[Judas]

So what are you talking about then? Attracted to the same gender = GAY! And you sir are attracted to the same gender.

Congrats, that's true.

But it's possible to be attracted to both. Just think about it a little, I know it might take some time but you will get it eventually.

Besides you can think what you like of me, I honestly don't care if you think I'm gay straight or bi. Some people mind their own business and aren't bothered by other people's way of life. You should try considering that one day. :rolleyes:

[Nick.]

don't feed the trolls! (Zyzz)
I find it hilarious that his post on page 10, which started this argument is still there, considering I reported it. The report was clearly ignored. I reported it for trolling, and evidently the forum mods think this kind of stuff is acceptable to be posted, yet feel the need to plaster 'Do not post pointlessly!' over loads of posts which are causing no harm. *REMOVED*

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[-:Undertaker:-]

No, it is nothing like that. Nothing at all. You cannot help who you are attracted to. Homosexuality is present in 1500 species and homophobia is found in only ONE. I think it's easy to see which one is natural.

If thats suggesting Zyzz (as much as I disagree with him) is homophobic then thats wrong, he's not being homophobic in the slightest.


Homophobia is just a word thrown at people that think homosexuality is wrong. It is wrong. /thread

Indeed to the first part, prime example being this thread.


Actually it's a name for people who feel the need to put their nose in the business of others when they have no business doing this at all.

The word homophobia means to have an irrational fear of homosexuals - to oppose homosexuality on grounds of morality, hygenie or anything else is not homophobic and if you want to have a sensible discussion about homosexuality then it would be wise to avoid words which imply your opponents as mentally backward. For example - I oppose my country becoming Islamic on good grounds, that doesn't mean i'm 'islamophobic'.

[Nick.]

If thats suggesting Zyzz (as much as I disagree with him) is homophobic then thats wrong, he's not being homophobic in the slightest.



Indeed to the first part, prime example being this thread.



The word homophobia means to have an irrational fear of homosexuals - to oppose homosexuality on grounds of morality, hygenie or anything else is not homophobic and if you want to have a sensible discussion about homosexuality then it would be wise to avoid words which imply your opponents as mentally backward. For example - I oppose my country becoming Islamic on good grounds, that doesn't mean i'm 'islamophobic'.

Oh please, pipe down. Morality, hygiene? Seriously.


The Oxford Dictionary defines homophobia as 'an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.', the definition of aversion is 'a strong dislike or disinclination' so you are wrong anyway. The Oxford Dictionary is correct, you are not. In the past it meant a fear, but it doesn't now, not in its common form. You just see the word phobia and jump to uneducated conclusions.

[Judas]

If thats suggesting Zyzz (as much as I disagree with him) is homophobic then thats wrong, he's not being homophobic in the slightest.

Oh please just give it a rest with the technicalities. I already addressed this in an earlier post in another thread which you conveniently ignored. I don't care what it's called, everyone knows what is meant by it who cares if the "phobia" part is technically wrong. Write to the dictionaries if you actually care that much, I for one certainly don't so pipe down.

He is a HOMOPHOBE.

[Jazz]

2 males making love would be like 2 north poles of a magnet attracting each other. It goes against science. North poles are attracted to south poles just like men are attracted to woman and vice versa.

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is human then you should just leave.

You chat some crap dont you, its a persons feelings and decisions how can you think that is inhuman.. :/

Sorry for being late in my response, but id thought id post my opinion :S

[Judas]

You chat some crap dont you, its a persons feelings and decisions how can you think that is inhuman.. :/

Sorry for being late in my response, but id thought id post my opinion :S

A very good and valid opinion it is, don't apologise

[Zyzz]

Oh please, pipe down. Morality, hygiene? Seriously.


The Oxford Dictionary defines homophobia as 'an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.', the definition of aversion is 'a strong dislike or disinclination' so you are wrong anyway. The Oxford Dictionary is correct, you are not. In the past it meant a fear, but it doesn't now, not in its common form. You just see the word phobia and jump to uneducated conclusions.

Well either way, the word homophobe gets thrown at anyone who does not agree with homosexuality to label them the bad guys. When really they are just forward-thinking individuals that have a basic understanding on what we humans are here for and how we are here. Homosexuality goes against both those understandings.

[Judas]

Well either way, the word homophobe gets thrown at anyone who does not agree with homosexuality to label them the bad guys. When really they are just forward-thinking individuals that have a basic understanding on what we humans are here for and how we are here. Homosexuality goes against both those understandings.

Your understandings on what we are here for are ancient. It's the 21st Century, get used to it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Oh please, pipe down. Morality, hygiene? Seriously.

The Oxford Dictionary defines homophobia as 'an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.', the definition of aversion is 'a strong dislike or disinclination' so you are wrong anyway. The Oxford Dictionary is correct, you are not. In the past it meant a fear, but it doesn't now, not in its common form. You just see the word phobia and jump to uneducated conclusions.

Actually I know what a phobia is even if some homosexuals and the pro-gay 'rights' lobby have hijacked the word to shout down anybody who does not approve of their lifestyle or sexuality. If you want to debate homosexuality properly and prove him wrong, then playing the homophobia card just shows you all up as a group of reactionaries who label opponents of their idea/lifestyle as mentally backward - that isn't how you win a debate rather it prove the opposite. It's chilling to note that in an ironic twist, despotic regimes label homosexuals as mentally backward - do not do it to the other side.

He has a view; do not label him as mentally beneath you just because you do not agree.


Oh please just give it a rest with the technicalities. I already addressed this in an earlier post in another thread which you conveniently ignored. I don't care what it's called, everyone knows what is meant by it who cares if the "phobia" part is technically wrong. Write to the dictionaries if you actually care that much, I for one certainly don't so pipe down.

He is a HOMOPHOBE.

He does not, as far as we can see, have an irrational fear of homosexuals. He is however opposing homosexuality on the grounds which he has listed, now if you think him to be wrong (as I myself do) then prove him wrong rather than throwing around words which do not apply to him.

[Judas]

He does not, as far as we can see, have an irrational fear of homosexuals. He is however opposing homosexuality on the grounds which he has listed, now if you think him to be wrong (as I myself do) then prove him wrong rather than throwing around words which do not apply to him.

Are you actually reading my posts? Clearly not. I am not suggesting he has an "irrational fear" of homosexuals, though it is plausible I suppose, I can't see why someone would be so opposed to something that doesn't actually have anything to do with them in the slightest. I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time. I have made this clear and don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, everyone knows what is meant by it. Give up :rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

Are you actually reading my posts? Clearly not. I am not suggesting he has an "irrational fear" of homosexuals, though it is plausible I suppose, I can't see why someone would be so opposed to something that doesn't actually have anything to do with them in the slightest. I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time. I have made this clear and don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, everyone knows what is meant by it. Give up :rolleyes:

Then you shouldn't use the same tactics (labelling the opposition as mentally backward with words like homophobia) as those who are the most ardent opponents to the idea of 'minding your own business' ie the Islamic Republic of Iran. As I said earlier, i'm on your side in this argument but if yourself and others are going to use words like homophobia to dismiss arguments on homosexuality then that will be taken to task.


I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time.

Being opposed to homosexuality is not homophobia and shouldn't be dismissed as such.

[Judas]

Then you shouldn't use the same tactics (labelling the opposition as mentally backward with words like homophobia) as those who are the most ardent opponents to the idea of 'minding your own business' ie the Islamic Republic of Iran. As I said earlier, i'm on your side in this argument but if yourself and others are going to use words like homophobia to dismiss arguments on homosexuality then that will be taken to task.

Being opposed to homosexuality is not homophobia and shouldn't be dismissed as such.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a/ˌhōməˈfōbēə/
Noun: An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a   
[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Show IPA
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

Adj. 1. homophobic - prejudiced against homosexual people

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[-:Undertaker:-]

ho·mo·pho·bi·a/ˌhōməˈfōbēə/
Noun: An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a   
[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Show IPA
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

Adj. 1. homophobic - prejudiced against homosexual people

Because as I said earlier, the word has been hijacked just as 'Islamophobia' was created to silence those who oppose Islam on good grounds. But thats clear then, that the best you can do in response to arguments against homosexuality is label your opposition as mentally backward.

Just in the same way that one of the biggest opponents of homosexuality, the Islamic Republic of Iran, labels homosexuals as. Pot. Kettle springs to mind. It simply reeks of intolerance (the same 'intolerance' many homosexuals can't stop complaining about, no doubt yourself included) when you simply label people who disagree with you as mentally beneath you.

[Judas]

Because as I said earlier, the word has been hijacked just as 'Islamophobia' was created to silence those who oppose Islam on good grounds. But thats clear then, that the best you can do in response to arguments against homosexuality is label your opposition as mentally backward.

Just in the same way that one of the biggest opponents of homosexuality, the Islamic Republic of Iran, labels homosexuals as. Pot. Kettle springs to mind. It simply reeks of intolerance (the same 'intolerance' many homosexuals can't stop complaining about, no doubt yourself included) when you simply label people who disagree with you as mentally beneath you.

Because I am a homosexual.... :rolleyes: Kind of ignorant.

I've already said what my view on the matter is and I'm not going to repeat myself any further as you keep doing. Until you change the dictionary definition of the word I will continue to use it, but until then, thanks for your effort and time.

[Zyzz]

Because I am a homosexual.... :rolleyes: Kind of ignorant.

I've already said what my view on the matter is and I'm not going to repeat myself any further as you keep doing. Until you change the dictionary definition of the word I will continue to use it, but until then, thanks for your effort and time.

Well if that's the best you can do... Why is it that all straight vs gay people arguments consist of:

Straight guy: I do not like the idea of homosexuality, I think it is wrong and goes against what we are as humans.
Gay guy: HOMOPHOBE!!

Always seems to be the straight guy putting up a valid argument and the gays just chucking the word homophobe at them or calling them mentally backwards.

[Judas]

Well if that's the best you can do... Why is it that all straight vs gay people arguments consist of:

Straight guy: I do not like the idea of homosexuality, I think it is wrong and goes against what we are as humans.
Gay guy: HOMOPHOBE!!

Always seems to be the straight guy putting up a valid argument and the gays just chucking the word homophobe at them or calling them mentally backwards.

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we were all born the way we were, if i wanna get with a guy or if i wanna get with a girl then i am gonna do that and you can drown yourself if you think you are gonna change that. i will love who i love and you or no other HOMOPHOBE is going to change that.

homosexuality exists in about 1500 species, and HOMOPHOBIA exists in only ONE. that's my argument. come at me and tell me that's unnatural, because frankly my sexual glands and my brain are telling me different things than you are and somehow i'm going to trust my own body over some *REMOVED*

if it's not natural. cool. whatever. me and all the other gays, bis and lesbians are all misfits and outcasts and rejects. deal with it because the world is changing and if you think we are going to then you better think again.

no one can tell me who i'm supposed to be.

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[Zyzz]

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we were all born the way we were, if i wanna get with a guy or if i wanna get with a girl then i am gonna do that and you can drown yourself if you think you are gonna change that. i will love who i love and you or no other HOMOPHOBE is going to change that.

homosexuality exists in about 1500 species, and HOMOPHOBIA exists in only ONE. that's my argument. come at me and tell me that's unnatural, because frankly my sexual glands and my brain are telling me different things than you are and somehow i'm going to trust my own body over some *REMOVED*

if it's not natural. cool. whatever. me and all the other gays, bis and lesbians are all misfits and outcasts and rejects. deal with it because the world is changing and if you think we are going to then you better think again.

no one can tell me who i'm supposed to be.

You sound like you have been listening to a little too much lady gaga.

[Judas]

You sound like you have been listening to a little too much lady gaga.

So much for the straight guys always giving valid arguments ...

Why did you edit your post from "brainwashed by lady gaga" to listening too much anyway?...

[Zyzz]

So much for the straight guys always giving valid arguments ...

Why did you edit your post from "brainwashed by lady gaga" to listening too much anyway?...

Well both of them would be valid. All of her personality is fake and put on and she doesn't even know what ******* gender she is. Then when she starts singing about being born this way and standing for gay rights....

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[Judas]

Well both of them would be valid. All of her personality is fake and put on and she doesn't even know what ******* gender she is. Then when she starts singing about being born this way and standing for gay rights....

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[Zyzz]

An off topic post and that image will be deemed inappropriate for the forum, have fun with that

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[Judas]

A9. Leave moderating to the moderators

I am not moderating, I simply reported you which I believe is actually encouraged within that very rule.

Anyway you're getting stupidly off topic and are trying to argue with me for the sake of it, you appear to be an angry person. Cheer up sweetie. Gay is okay and you will deal.

[Randomme]

Agreed 100% with Judas. No matter who you are, surely you're still normal and human. +REP to Judas.

Bisexual.

[-:Undertaker:-]

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we were all born the way we were, if i wanna get with a guy or if i wanna get with a girl then i am gonna do that and you can drown yourself if you think you are gonna change that. i will love who i love and you or no other HOMOPHOBE is going to change that.

homosexuality exists in about 1500 species, and HOMOPHOBIA exists in only ONE. that's my argument. come at me and tell me that's unnatural, because frankly my sexual glands and my brain are telling me different things than you are and somehow i'm going to trust my own body over some *REMOVED*

if it's not natural. cool. whatever. me and all the other gays, bis and lesbians are all misfits and outcasts and rejects. deal with it because the world is changing and if you think we are going to then you better think again.

no one can tell me who i'm supposed to be.

So opposing homosexuality on the grounds that in somebodys opinion (as with many), 'its not natural' is homophobic?

Way to put down an argument playing the homophobia card! and homosexuals wonder why people think they generally overreact? Mhmm!

[Judas]

So opposing homosexuality on the grounds that in somebodys opinion (as with many), 'its not natural' is homophobic?

Way to put down an argument playing the homophobia card! and homosexuals wonder why people think they generally overreact? Mhmm!

Why do I need to justify homosexuality? It's perfectly natural and normal, and yes, he is a homophobe. I'm not "putting down" any cards here. He is a homophobe, fact. I don't even know why you're trying to question this.

Once again, I'm not even gay so your ignorance shines through yet again. Who's overreacting? This is no joke, this is a big issue. People are murdered by those who share the same views as this guy, and others commit suicide because our society thinks it's acceptable to degrade people that aren't straight, or "normal", or "human". No one is overreacting here.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Why do I need to justify homosexuality? It's perfectly natural and normal, and yes, he is a homophobe. I'm not "putting down" any cards here. He is a homophobe, fact. I don't even know why you're trying to question this.

Because not only has he not shown a fear of homosexuality, he hasn't even shown a hatred of homosexuals - all he has done is say that he thinks homosexuality is abnormal, not natural and perhaps immoral. This is not homophobia, this is objecting to homosexuality on good grounds even if I disagree with his grounds of argument. I'm questioning this because you appear to think that any opposition or objection to homosexuality is a sort of mental disease which can be dismissed with one word - it is not.


Once again, I'm not even gay so your ignorance shines through yet again.

Bisexual aren't you.


Who's overreacting? This is no joke, this is a big issue. People are murdered by those who share the same views as this guy, and others commit suicide because our society thinks it's acceptable to degrade people that aren't straight, or "normal", or "human". No one is overreacting here.

I think you've just proven the extent of how you are overreacting. Because the guy opposes homosexuality on the grounds of it being not natural, abnormal or immoral you've now gone and compared it to the murder of homosexuals for being homosexual. Is that the best you can do? that anyone who disagrees with homosexuality can be shot down on the basis that there are rare cases of people murdering homosexuals for being homosexual?

People who are 'right-wing' like me commit crimes 'because of' right wing views (recent Norway shootings) - does that mean everyone who holds that view is automatically bad, dangerous and raving? no, it does not. If you are going to have a sensible discussion and prove him wrong, then do so using real arguments instead of doing what people who support mass immigration for an example do, which is label opponents as 'racist' in order to shut down and opposition using fear.

You've done yourself no favours, rather you've reinforced the sterotype that gays can't take a joke or handle criticism.

[FlyingJesus]

Claiming that homosexuality is wrong because it goes against nature is not homophobic, just incorrect.
Claiming that homosexuality is wrong because you have a moral opposition to the act is not homophobic, just an opinion (albeit one that you ought not push on other people as it's a very personal one).
Claiming that homosexuality is wrong because IT MAKES YOU A POOF QUEER WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU OMG is homophobic.

[Judas]

Because not only has he not shown a fear of homosexuality, he hasn't even shown a hatred of homosexuals - all he has done is say that he thinks homosexuality is abnormal, not natural and perhaps immoral. This is not homophobia, this is objecting to homosexuality on good grounds even if I disagree with his grounds of argument. I'm questioning this because you appear to think that any opposition or objection to homosexuality is a sort of mental disease which can be dismissed with one word - it is not.

That is certainly news to me as I have not once said that or anything of the sort, don't put words in my mouth.


Bisexual aren't you.

Yes.


I think you've just proven the extent of how you are overreacting. Because the guy opposes homosexuality on the grounds of it being not natural, abnormal or immoral you've now gone and compared it to the murder of homosexuals for being homosexual. Is that the best you can do? that anyone who disagrees with homosexuality can be shot down on the basis that there are rare cases of people murdering homosexuals for being homosexual?

I don't how you can think telling someone they are "wrong" and "not human" for liking someone of the same gender is not homophobic.

Did you choose to ignore the suicide part? What about all the teenagers who are told being gay is wrong and feel like they should hide who they are. Some of them are tragically driven to suicide, after hearing things like what this guy has been saying, making them think that something is wrong with them. I don't think that's not worth bringing up. And you're the last person on this forum who can pick me up on making ridiculous comparisons and bringing irrelevant things into the equation :rolleyes:

I also like how you point out that they are "rare" cases, as if that is relevant. It still happens.


People who are 'right-wing' like me commit crimes 'because of' right wing views (recent Norway shootings) - does that mean everyone who holds that view is automatically bad, dangerous and raving? no, it does not. If you are going to have a sensible discussion and prove him wrong, then do so using real arguments instead of doing what people who support mass immigration for an example do, which is label opponents as 'racist' in order to shut down and opposition using fear.

Prime example, what does a lunatic (someone who clearly does have mental issues) shooting people in Norway have to do with any of this? So irrelevant :S


You've done yourself no favours, rather you've reinforced the sterotype that gays can't take a joke or handle criticism.

Are you being serious right now?

Handle criticism for what? Being gay? No straight person has to "take a joke" or "handle criticism" for liking someone of the opposite sex, why should it be any different for homo/bisexuals...?

[-:Undertaker:-]

That is certainly news to me as I have not once said that or anything of the sort, don't put words in my mouth.

Then why are you accusing somebody who is stating good grounds on opposition to homosexuality as a 'homophobe' when he clearly does not show any signs of hating homosexuals or having an irrational fear of them?


I don't how you can think telling someone they are "wrong" and "not human" for liking someone of the same gender is not homophobic.

Because he may think, as many do, that homosexuality is not a normal practice and that as it is uncommon in many species including our own, it may be a genetic default of some sort. This is not a hatred or a fear of homosexuals, this is a clear basis for an argument against homosexuality - for you to dismiss this argument as homophobic is ridiculous and you should stop. If he is wrong, then prove him wrong instead of trying to shut down the debate.


Did you choose to ignore the suicide part? What about all the teenagers who are told being gay is wrong and feel like they should hide who they are. Some of them are tragically driven to suicide, after hearing things like what this guy has been saying, making them think that something is wrong with them. I don't think that's not worth bringing up. And you're the last person on this forum who can pick me up on making ridiculous comparisons and bringing irrelevant things into the equation :rolleyes:

And? individual liberty comes before equality always because any society that picks equality over individual liberty loses both in the end. If somebody disagrees with homosexuality then so what? i'm sorry but who the hell are you to demand that they have no right to speak/attempt to slur them and silence them? you have no authority to pick or choose the opinions of others just as they should have no right, like the Islamic Republic of Iran exercises, to dictate what homosexuals do in the bedroom.

You preach tolerance yet you are showing yourself to be grossly intolerant of other opinions.


I also like how you point out that they are "rare" cases, as if that is relevant. It still happens.

So whats the suggestion? should anybody who dares oppose homosexuality be silenced by force? if not, whats the point on suicide? there is none. Lots of people kill themselves over a number of issues, from debts to falling out with family members. The deaths from these do not mean we outlaw debt/family disputes, just as we should not outlaw/shut down criticism of homosexuality.


Prime example, what does a lunatic (someone who clearly does have mental issues) shooting people in Norway have to do with any of this? So irrelevant :S

Because you are labeling anybody who opposes homosexuality as a homophobe automatically and saying that people with views such as the member you were debating with go out and murder homosexuals - this is true. But what is also true is that say those against immigration, some (the killing in Norway) also go out and murder on this basis.

So what i'm saying is that you have no point. That, just because some people with views against homosexuality go out and murder homosexuals for being homosexual doesn't mean that the debate should be shut down which is what you are attempting to do here by bringing this into the debate.


Are you being serious right now?

Handle criticism for what? Being gay? No straight person has to "take a joke" or "handle criticism" for liking someone of the opposite sex, why should it be any different for homo/bisexuals...?

It takes place because homosexuals are in the minority who naturally come under fire in any society and if your looking for a utopia with no bullying, no criticism and so forth then its never going to happen. Why should homosexuals take a joke or take criticism? because we live in a free country with supposed free speech and freedom of expression. Homosexuals are allowed to be open just as opponents of homosexuality deserve the same.

It's called individual liberty.

[Judas]

Then why are you accusing somebody who is stating good grounds on opposition to homosexuality as a 'homophobe' when he clearly does not show any signs of hating homosexuals or having an irrational fear of them?



Because he may think, as many do, that homosexuality is not a normal practice and that as it is uncommon in many species including our own, it may be a genetic default of some sort. This is not a hatred or a fear of homosexuals, this is a clear basis for an argument against homosexuality - for you to dismiss this argument as homophobic is ridiculous and you should stop. If he is wrong, then prove him wrong instead of trying to shut down the debate.



And? individual liberty comes before equality always because any society that picks equality over individual liberty loses both in the end. If somebody disagrees with homosexuality then so what? i'm sorry but who the hell are you to demand that they have no right to speak/attempt to slur them and silence them? you have no authority to pick or choose the opinions of others just as they should have no right, like the Islamic Republic of Iran exercises, to dictate what homosexuals do in the bedroom.

You preach tolerance yet you are showing yourself to be grossly intolerant of other opinions.



So whats the suggestion? should anybody who dares oppose homosexuality be silenced by force? if not, whats the point on suicide? there is none. Lots of people kill themselves over a number of issues, from debts to falling out with family members. The deaths from these do not mean we outlaw debt/family disputes, just as we should not outlaw/shut down criticism of homosexuality.



Because you are labeling anybody who opposes homosexuality as a homophobe automatically and saying that people with views such as the member you were debating with go out and murder homosexuals - this is true. But what is also true is that say those against immigration, some (the killing in Norway) also go out and murder on this basis.

So what i'm saying is that you have no point. That, just because some people with views against homosexuality go out and murder homosexuals for being homosexual doesn't mean that the debate should be shut down which is what you are attempting to do here by bringing this into the debate.



It takes place because homosexuals are in the minority who naturally come under fire in any society and if your looking for a utopia with no bullying, no criticism and so forth then its never going to happen. Why should homosexuals take a joke or take criticism? because we live in a free country with supposed free speech and freedom of expression. Homosexuals are allowed to be open just as opponents of homosexuality deserve the same.

It's called individual liberty.

oh my word okay i will reply to this wall of text when i have the time

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actually you know what i'm not going to reply to all of that because the bottom line is i will never tolerate someone that tries to tell me homosexuality isn't natural. homophobes or whatever you want to call them.

using life support machines and blood transfusions etc are "unnatural", in fact pretty much use of any medicine and treatments are unnatural, so are they as bad as being gay?

the way we live life everyday is "unnatural", our life revolves around technology which is ... unnatural.

this is from a book called "the fifth elephant" by terry pratchett which probably illustrates my point better than i can


'Not natural, in my view, sah. Not in favor of unnatural things.'
Vetinari looked perplexed. 'You mean, you eat your meat raw and sleep in a tree?'

[-:Undertaker:-]

The reply you've just given me (wrongly thinking i'm arguing the natural point with you) is the exact sort of reply you should give in response to those who say homosexuality is not natural - that is a proper debate and that will earn you respect. But alas you firstly chose not to, because you decided to simply attempt to silence the debate by calling people homophobic who are not homophobic and thats why i've intervened in this.


i will never tolerate someone that tries to tell me homosexuality isn't natural.

You are confusing what i'm debating here now. I'm not debating that point on whether its natural because I agree with you so you are mistaking me as an opponent of homosexuality. All i'm doing is showing how deeply intolerant you are of the opinions of others which you appear to think should not be allowed just as the Islamic Republic of Iran does not allow homosexuality - ironically, you've become as intolerant as those who you label as intolerant.

And thats what annoys an awful lot of people about the homosexual lobby in general.

[Casanova]

Dan get off your high horse and back to narnia via the closet man.
I think most people have observed in general that xyz or whatever his name is has been quite homophobic or biased against homo's or bi's in a lot of his posts. I wouldn't go so far to say he's been hateful but yes his comments have hit a note.

I get what you're saying but you're only saying that because you're ashamed of what you are/dislike what you are.

[Nick.]

But alas you firstly chose not to, because you decided to simply attempt to silence the debate by calling people homophobic who are not homophobic and thats why i've intervened in this.

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[-:Undertaker:-]

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I didn't ask for you to post either love.

But if its silly make a good point out of it and prove me wrong, or are you intolerant aswell of the opinions of others?