Interesting theory about life

[LoveToStack]

Stumbled upon this blog in which the writer describes his outlook on how we will progress. I don't agree with some aspects of it, but other points he makes do raise interesting questions. It deals primarily with the subject of science and how it is progressing. He ponders where it will go after we answer the big questions like where we came from which is quite a good question to ask seeing as most people seem to see that as the end goal that science is moving towards. But you'd think that if we do ever conclude how it all began, which I have no problem believing we will, then where does it go from there? I realise that this is some pretty deep heavy stuff, but it's an interesting read! It contains some coarse language, just a warning:

http://blog.joerogan.net/#
(It's the article 'We're getting closer to forever')

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[Black_Apalachi]

Wow, this guy actually is a genius. He's right; there will be no end to technology and discovery. Even when everything you can imagine has been discovered, we will still aim for improvement, to make those discoveries better in some way, in most cases probably in terms of speed.

His idea that The Big Bang could not only be the start of the cycle, but also the end of a previous one, is just amazing. As a theory, I regard that as more plausible than God (I know that's not saying much but it puts it into some perspective :P). He is also correct in that when it comes down to it, the boffins won't think twice about taking the risk. If this theory was accurate, then it is essential that such a risk would be taken.

Another thing I can take from this, is what he says about everything we do just being part of our overall purpose. I've always seen qualities of the human race such as laziness, greed, jealousy etc as shameful traits about my race. However what he is suggesting is that these are all part of a predetermined goal, just like bees collecting pollen. It makes sense as well when he mentions how we as consumers, always want the latest TVs and phones. Technology could just be a greater being which drives us towards discovery. Our species is way past weeding out the weaker individuals to maximise our species' chance of survival. Hell, our species is the most successful anyway so we must have moved onto another goal.

Ultimately I don't think time travel will ever be possible. Time isn't an actual thing we move through, like a tape which can be rewound or sped up. I believe there is nothing but the present, otherwise there would need to be an infinite series of parallel universes and I actually regard this as much less plausible than a higher power. We would also never be able to move between "Big Bangs" (there isn't even a word to call the time between each Big bang!).

This a pretty sweet theory. If this guy published a book, I'm pretty sure I'd buy it.
Edit: I thought this was just some randomer, I didn't realise he was famous lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Rogan

[LoveToStack]

The points you picked up on about human advancement as human nature I found particularly interesting as well. It seems plausible that it is that trait which caused us humans to evolve into a higher state of conciousness. I agree that speed would be an area of interest as advancements there would advance exploration etc but I'm not sure about time travel. When you consider that the lhc deals with finding theoretical particles, among other things, then with that a broader understanding of time, tachyons etc could come about. I'm sure I remember reading that they were on the predicted timeline for the lhc's discoveries within the next decade or so. The article does show just how immensly science has advanced within the last few centuries though so it is interesting to contemplate where it will go in the future.

[Accipiter]

i found him to be like my partially mental friend i've known since i was a kid.

Its nothing that hasn't been thought of before just put into a crazy mental mans tone. Who tends to have a paranoia disorder.

i did only read around 3 paragraphs though cause i was in college.

[Black_Apalachi]

After showing it to friends of mine who are philosophy students and have read various books relating to topics such as this, it turns out that there's not really anything here that hasn't been mentioned before. Still, it was new to me and I find it very intriguing.

[FlyingJesus]

His idea that The Big Bang could not only be the start of the cycle, but also the end of a previous one, is just amazing

Yeah I remember thinking I was a genius when I came up with the same thing a couple of years back, then I read something about someone else who'd thought he'd come up with it and answered it all before having read up on another guy who.... etc etc etc
Good theory, but not a radical one in any sense :P also I am still a genius just not for that reason


Our species is way past weeding out the weaker individuals to maximise our species' chance of survival. Hell, our species is the most successful anyway so we must have moved onto another goal.

Disagree with you here. Aside from the fact that bacteria are the most successful lifeforms generally, we're definitely not beyond survival of the fittest - it's just that our definitions have changed to suit new needs. We now look not only to physical capabilities but also mental ones, because clearly not everyone is equal so there are still people who are "better" than others and therefore found to be more desirable, both to be with and to be like.

[Black_Apalachi]

Oi you! I later pointed out that I realised it wasn't originally his theory after all!! Fair enough though, you said what I was trying to say I guess; we may not be beyond survival of the fittest but our approach to it has diversified ;).

[Inseriousity.]

It's good to see someone else who believes in determinism! My whole RE class thinks I'm insane because I don't think free will exists!

I think that when we find the answers to something, we create new questions. Our scientific resources then shift onto these new questions. I'll admit I didn't read the whole blog so I'll reply to Sergio's post and hope he covered most of it :P

I don't think time travel will ever be possible and I personally don't want it to be. It's true imo that greed and jealousy etc may be part of a predetermined goal but they also have the potential to do great harm as well and that's what I'm mostly worried about. The idea that scientists will take risks scares me tbh, they are just human themselves and have the ability to screw up big time... I think they should continue trying to discover the wonders of life but that we need to constantly keep an eye on them!

[Black_Apalachi]

I'm not confident about whether I believe in determinism or free will (even if this may contradict my previous posts lol).

For me when it comes to time travel, the question of; 'what if I go back in time and prevent my parents from meeting?' completely obliterates the whole possibility. As for scientists, of course they will take such risks. The guy in the blog talks about how these scientists have spent their whole lives working towards such goals so if it comes down to a 50/50, they're not going to walk away from everything they've toiled over. He also mentions when the first ever atomic bomb was tested, it was believed that there would be a risk that the bomb would have a knock on effect throughout the whole world. Yet they still went ahead and took the risk.