Ipad - Whats your opinion?

[[Chris]]

So, the Ipad has been announced, what do YOU think of it?

I think it looks good - It could be useful - I know im interested

[Agnostic Bear]

1) It's an iPad
2) It's has the complete usefulness of a small ladybug attacking a lion
3) It has no functionality at all and will only be useful as a glorified book reader
4) HURR DURR IT'S APPLE IT MUST BE GOOD!!!!!!!

Get a goddamn clue instead of just wading in spouting crap about what it is or isn't. It's a complete flop and marketed incredibly wrong.

[[Chris]]

People might have different opinions..

[Alkaz]

It would be good if it can be used as a proper laptop.

[Agnostic Bear]

;6268217']People might have different opinions..

Yes and in this case their opinions are wrong. It has almost no functionality whatsoever, it's just a giant overhyped iPod with a few more built in apps and less functionality. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not revolutionary nor is it, as they call it, "magical".

[[Chris]]

Yes and in this case their opinions are wrong. It has almost no functionality whatsoever, it's just a giant overhyped iPod with a few more built in apps and less functionality. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not revolutionary nor is it, as they call it, "magical".

Nobodys OPINIONS Are wrong. Only to you..

[Agnostic Bear]

;6268230']Nobodys OPINIONS Are wrong. Only to you..

My opinion is that you are a female. I am wrong, there we go my opinion is wrong. Opinions are cancelled out by facts and people who know what the hell is going on.

(replace female with male if you are actually female)

[[Chris]]

My opinion is that you are a female. I am wrong, there we go my opinion is wrong. Opinions are cancelled out by facts and people who know what the hell is going on.

(replace female with male if you are actually female)

Each to their own.. Other peoples opinions may vary from yours - That doesnt make them wrong.

Now, Quit arguing, And lets get to the point at hand :)

[The Professor]

Eww at Jewish Troll, seriously considering a lot of industry experts are still undecided and with differing opinions of those who are decided you can't comdemn everyone elses opinion on it as wrong "/ They can be wrong in your opinion, yes, but you can't claim it as fact.

I agree with what JewBear said though, it has no place in the world and should be consigned to the scrap metal heap as quick as possible. The people who I've spoken to have only been able to justify it by reciting the features of the iphone which doesnt wash with me because the iphone exists but its cheaper.

[[Chris]]

Eww at Jewish Troll, seriously considering a lot of industry experts are still undecided and with differing opinions of those who are decided you can't comdemn everyone elses opinion on it as wrong "/ They can be wrong in your opinion, yes, but you can't claim it as fact.

I agree with what JewBear said though, it has no place in the world and should be consigned to the scrap metal heap as quick as possible. The people who I've spoken to have only been able to justify it by reciting the features of the iphone which doesnt wash with me because the iphone exists but its cheaper.

Nobodys opinion is WRONG as such..

I mean yeah, Ok - It may have the features of an iphone, but it just seems.. Useful, I mean.. i could just grab it and watch a film - Take it on holiday and take the pictures off my camera..

Playing games on the 9' screen doesnt look bad either.. It looks entertaining.

[Invent]

I love it. For a while now I've wanted a device (that's smaller than my Macbook) which I can use for browsing the net, watching videos and doing work. Luckily for me, the iPad does all of these things p-e-r-f-e-c-t-l-y. Multi-tasking would be pretty nice but I'll easily manage without it.


Get a goddamn clue instead of just wading in spouting crap about what it is or isn't. It's a complete flop and marketed incredibly wrong.


Ya, it's a complete flop...even though it hasn't even been released yet. As for marketing, again, it hasn't been released yet and so they haven't even started marketing it.

[[Chris]]

I love it. I've wanted something smaller than my Macbook (which I can use for browsing the net, watching videos and doing work) for a while now. Luckily for me, the iPad does all of these things p-e-r-f-e-c-t-l-y. Multi-tasking would be pretty nice but I'll easily manage without it.

I reckon it'l be jailbroken..

And theres a multi-task app for cydia isnt there?

And see.. Jewish bear.. Other peoples opinions are DIFFERENT

[Invent]

;6268275']I reckon it'l be jailbroken..

And theres a multi-task app for cydia isnt there?

And see.. Jewish bear.. Other peoples opinions are DIFFERENT

Yeah, though I prefer to not jailbreak personally :P. I really wouldn't be surprised if the next iteration of the iPad OS includes multi-tasking anyway.

[[Chris]]

Yeah but I prefer to not jailbreak personally :P. I wouldn't be surprised if the next iteration of the iPad OS includes multi-tasking anyway.

Mhmm, how can you NOT jailbreak.. With all those lovely free apps *drool*

[MrPinkPanther]

;6268281']Mhmm, how can you NOT jailbreak.. With all those lovely free apps *drool*
Cydia apps? Cydia apps in the main are poor.

[[Chris]]

Cydia apps? Cydia apps in the main are poor.

No - Appulous?

[kk.]

I personally like it, but wouldnt get this generation of it. I mean think how many things it replaces in the house! Calendar, phonebook, netbooks used primarily for the internet, 7" DVD players, can be a photoframe etc. All in one thing.

I could see myself using one in the future.


EDIT: also, multitasking is alright.. on a mac or PC. Where you can actually see whats open. But the way that its all set out, theres no way that it can easily be done without changing it completely. I know i know, they couldve developed a new OS for it, which they may do in the future, but i dont see it as a major downside, more, a minor inconvenience

EDIT2: Appulous and installous <3

[Chippiewill]

Some things -cough- netbooks -cough- would be much better to be honest. Particularly if they were running a trimmed down OS -cough- Google Chrome OS -cough- that boots in just 7 seconds and only uses a web browser.

Everything that can be down on the iPad can be done on a Netbook

[MrPinkPanther]

;6268291']No - Appulous?
Ah ok, I thought you were talking about "proper" jailbroken apps :)

[kk.]

Some things -cough- netbooks -cough- would be much better to be honest. Particularly if they were running a trimmed down OS -cough- Google Chrome OS -cough- that boots in just 7 seconds and only uses a web browser.

Everything that can be down on the iPad can be done on a Netbook

the iPad boots in 0 seconds considering its meant to be permanently switched on. everythings about speed nowadays lol

[MrPinkPanther]

Some things -cough- netbooks -cough- would be much better to be honest. Particularly if they were running a trimmed down OS -cough- Google Chrome OS -cough- that boots in just 7 seconds and only uses a web browser.

Everything that can be down on the iPad can be done on a Netbook

Try running a 3D OpenGL application on Chrome OS. See how far you get.

[Recursion]

I shall reserve judgement until I see one in person, but first impressions? It's crap.

[kk.]

I shall reserve judgement until I see one in person, but first impressions? It's crap.

im sure you keep changing your mind!! :P

[N!ck]

I shall reserve judgement until I see one in person, but first impressions? It's crap.

This is my view.

Also, IMO they've deliberately left features out so they can release a new one and make more $$$. Multi-tasking and camera anyone?

At the same physical size a netbook is far more functional.

[kk.]

This is my view.

Also, IMO they've deliberately left features out so they can release a new one and make more $$$. Multi-tasking and camera anyone?

At the same physical size a netbook is far more functional.

Every company does this. and you would too if you were in there shoes. It just means smart people know not to buy at least this generation of them

its a lot more portable.

[Jam]

Multi-tasking could be via Software Update, all the touch screen models are capable (technically and as shown via Jailbreaks) but I suppose they will add a camera in time.

[Dan!]

I like it because it fin which is good if wanna take it on hoilday and dont want to take your "bulky" laptop with you.

[iBlueBox]

it looks like an iphone on steroids , i love my iphone and i love this more to be honest, but seeing as im 15, im not going to save for one and buy this one, il wait for christmas till theres probably a much newer version

[GommeInc]

Compared to what HP/Dell (some PC company) revealed at CES, it's a total failure, seeing as they are heavily rumoured to use a different version of Windows 7 (a tablet form of the OS was revealed during the show as well). If it used a real OS it might be fine, but because it uses a different version of the iPhone OS, it just isn't appealing.

Calling it the iPad was a terrible mistake too. It's common business practice to never give two products similar names, especially when "iPad" is just the American pronounciation of "iPod" :P It's one thing having a product fail, but the name as well? *shudder*

It also looks dreadful too, with one button attached to the front at the bottom, and about half an inch of border around the screen. It is just an iPod Touch that mated with a digital photo frame :/

[RedStratocas]

Yes and in this case their opinions are wrong. It has almost no functionality whatsoever, it's just a giant overhyped iPod with a few more built in apps and less functionality. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not revolutionary nor is it, as they call it, "magical".

your completely unnecessary and unprovoked anger make your opinion far less substantiated and reasonable, theres no reason to be all offended by a giant ipod. there's ways to express your extreme distaste for something without getting your panties all bunched up, and usually people will actually take you seriously if you use those methods.

that being said it seems like apple is working backwards by releasing an ipod that's bigger instead of smaller. and yes, it basically is a giant ipod. im scratching my head to find a reasonable use for it, tbh.

[StefanWolves]

The good -
Okay processor
Huge screen and good quality
Very responsive touch screen
Built in 3G/Wifi
Built in bluetooth
USB ports

The bad -
No WebCamera
Could have had more Hard drive space (128gb)
Could have a bigger + better processor
The ugly picture frame that its surrounded by :@

All in all its an okay device, its like when the first iPod Touch came out, it was underwhelming, but revolutionary. It's just like when the first iPhone was released, underwhelming, yes, but still revolutionary. I'm sure Apple will nurture, market and develop (the 2G model next year, already thinking about it!) - this device in such a way that by this time next summer the iPad will be huge.

You can now bet your bottom dollar that the iPhone 4G will now have multitasking (because of the 1ghz processor they will use from the iPad), 1ghz processor, and 64/128gb memory + a better camera (5mp).
The big winner = iPhone.

[Monopoly]

I just don't think teenagers are the target market for this product. :)

If you were someone in america floating about all the time working on the computer, I can totally see why this would be handy.

[MrPinkPanther]

You know what'd be a sweet? A 15" iPad. Kinda like half way towards the Microsoft Surface where it could be used as a "Hub" for the home.

[kk.]

i envisage this as a device that in a decade or so will be popular in every household. the things we saw on TV and film where houses are controlled by a single device; heating, curtains, phone calls etc, that is what this is the beginning of, but a more mainstream version..

:'( didnt see flyduos post :P

[StefanWolves]

I think 15" would be to big IMO. :/

I think the size they have got is perfect, just want them to get rid of that awful picture frame around it.

The OS just looks wrong on it at the moment, but hopefully theyll develop that like they did on the iPhones/iTouch.

[Recursion]

Compared to what HP/Dell (some PC company) revealed at CES, it's a total failure, seeing as they are heavily rumoured to use a different version of Windows 7 (a tablet form of the OS was revealed during the show as well). If it used a real OS it might be fine, but because it uses a different version of the iPhone OS, it just isn't appealing.


Windows 7 already has tablet features built in, so did Vista, but 7 has been optimized yet more over Vista for tablet use.

[Black_Apalachi]

I don't really see the point of it. If it was like an actual laptop then I might be interested, then again it would only be a Mac. I haven't got an iPhone either so I'll just wait until they make a really good one of them and get that. I have no need for whatever this iPad is supposed to be.

I agree with GommeInc as well, it just looks like a giant iPhone or iPod Touch and the name is terrible. The point about the American pronunciation is a good one too, although you would think they would realise this at the off, given they're all American anyway.

[GommeInc]

Windows 7 already has tablet features built in, so did Vista, but 7 has been optimized yet more over Vista for tablet use.
I remember hearing or reading somewhere that the tablet version of 7 would have alot lobbed off it to save space. I knew about the touchscreen features already available in Vista and 7 though (HP Touchsmart :D)

[Abbie.]

its a belfast ipod!!!!!!

[xxMATTGxx]

I think it's crap at the moment, although I haven't seen it for real and we will wait until then. But I was really expecting more from Apple with their "tablet", shame they didn't produce it. :(

[Black_Apalachi]

Do you know what it strikes me as, one of those inventions that people will look back on in twenty years and just cringe. Like when we think back to the original "mobile" phones, the huge suitcase ones.

[Catchy]

it looks quite good tbh, doubt i'll be buying one though

[StefanWolves]

Do you know what it strikes me as, one of those inventions that people will look back on in twenty years and just cringe. Like when we think back to the original "mobile" phones, the huge suitcase ones.
itll be nothing like that at all, this is likely to revolutionize the way that we use the internet and word process etc.

[Black_Apalachi]

How? In terms of using the internet, how is it different to an iPhone etc?

[HotelUser]

How? In terms of using the internet, how is it different to an iPhone etc?

I wouldn't exactly give Apple sole credit for changing the personal computer industry with their iPad, but in ten years from now I guarantee a lot of us are going to be carrying around devices like the ipad with higher hardware specifications and which run a similar platform. They're just convenient for quick use, on the job, at school, for fun wherever you are. Some guy in an interview said the objective is to make the thing a computer but without the traditional computer feel (think he meant the hassle of booting, configuration panels, crappy application management, tedious lame tasks).
The real fun's going to start when these guys get good hardware, and also begin being able to connect to your peripherals wirelessly (imagine being on a bus using your tablet then arriving home, sitting it on your desk and continuing to use it but now through your 2 external monitors without having to plug anything in).

[Abbie.]

the people in the belfast apple shop will be so confused, because alot of people pronouse ipod 'ipad' anyway lol.

[Nexus]

I think it will be very successful
The only thing i wont like about it is that you cant run programs like Photoshop...dreamweaver...etc...its technically a big iphone
and you also cant play habbo or anything of that sort

[HotelUser]

I think it will be very successful
The only thing i wont like about it is that you cant run programs like Photoshop...dreamweaver...etc...its technically a big iphone
and you also cant play habbo or anything of that sort

Nope, no Habbo at the moment because Apple's being stupid about Flash.

[Nexus]

What i dont understand about apple
is that they take forever to add the simpleset things to something
take the iPhone for example
it took them 3 generations to put freakin voice recording on it
they should seriously put flash and shockwave etc... on the iPad
that would make it even more successful

[HotelUser]

What i dont understand about apple
is that they take forever to add the simpleset things to something
take the iPhone for example
it took them 3 generations to put freakin voice recording on it
they should seriously put flash and shockwave etc... on the iPad
that would make it even more successful

Yup. Look how long it took them to introduce quad core chipsets to the iMac. I still buy their stuff but I swear sometimes I want to pull a
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/facepalm.jpg
(pardon the cliche)

[Black_Apalachi]

What i dont understand about apple
is that they take forever to add the simpleset things to something
take the iPhone for example
it took them 3 generations to put freakin voice recording on it
they should seriously put flash and shockwave etc... on the iPad
that would make it even more successful

I assume this is to maximise sales. When they release the first generation of a product and everyone buys it, they know everyone will buy the second gen as well. So they can save some of the features to put into the second gen and even further generations.

Look at the time between each of the iPod Nano releases. It wasn't very long because they probably have all the technology for the third or fourth generations even before the first one is released. I don't know how many generations of Nanos there are, but you get my point.

[AgnesIO]

My opinion is that you are a female. I am wrong, there we go my opinion is wrong. Opinions are cancelled out by facts and people who know what the hell is going on.

(replace female with male if you are actually female)

That's not an opinion? That's a lie :S Totally different.

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I think it looks stupid tbh, iPod Touch's etc look good - giant ones, well, don't.

[xXiShadowXx]

Looks pointless and to big to be honest.

It has pretty much the same things as an iPod Touch/iPhone, but is bigger...

[GommeInc]

itll be nothing like that at all, this is likely to revolutionize the way that we use the internet and word process etc.
Word process? It'll be dreadful in comparison to the typical and traditional keyboard and mouse... Having to pull up a keyboard on-screen to take over most of the screen would be annoying and not revolutionary at all - different, but not the be all and end all :/

As far as Apple are going, people are aware that Apple make crappy products on first release, then release obvious functions later on (still lagging behind with their iPhone though). It's slowly becoming a turn off, but won't do any serious problems in the future unless people give up and go for cheaper "better" alternatives that actually do all the jobs you want, have all the features that have been around since the stone age, freely (interact with anything and anyone). It seems to be the latest ding dong with the iPhone, no-one really cares anymore and they just hope the 4th Generation actually brings in REAL bluetooth (the one that syncs with any bluetooth device properly) and multi-tasking, something even the Sony Ericsson k800i has done since the beginning :/

[MrPinkPanther]

I think 15" would be to big IMO. :/

I think the size they have got is perfect, just want them to get rid of that awful picture frame around it.

The OS just looks wrong on it at the moment, but hopefully theyll develop that like they did on the iPhones/iTouch.
10" is the worst size. It's too large to be really portable like an iPhone but not big enough to give you a "full" experience like a MacBook. A 15" version would would mean that several people could interact with the same environment at once, from a developers perspective it would be fantastic! Imagine using the Tablet as a board game or maybe a giant multiplayer game of Pacman!

[RedStratocas]

well apple is obviously aware that this is where the computer industry is heading. within the next decade laptops are going to look significantly different, they are going to be touch pads like this. they'll basically just be screens that you can fold up and put in your pocket.

but this feels like theyre trying to get ahead in the game without having the actual features to back it up.

oh and as an american i dont understand the point people are making about the words "pad" and "pod" sounding the same? i mean they sound sorta similar but they are definitely as distinguishable from each other as they would be in any other accent?

[MrGazet]

Well,to me it's just like a giant Ipod touch.I dnt think I'm that interested in getting it at the moment but I'd like to have it to view my videos though

[AgnesIO]

Found this pretty funny lol.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7181/ipadvsblue.png

[HotelUser]

Found this pretty funny lol.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7181/ipadvsblue.png

Well I laughed:D

still want an iPad though..

[Black_Apalachi]

lol Demala :P.


... As far as Apple are going, people are aware that Apple make crappy products on first release, then release obvious functions later on (still lagging behind with their iPhone though). It's slowly becoming a turn off, but won't do any serious problems in the future unless people give up and go for cheaper "better" alternatives that actually do all the jobs you want, have all the features that have been around since the stone age, freely (interact with anything and anyone). It seems to be the latest ding dong with the iPhone, no-one really cares anymore and they just hope the 4th Generation actually brings in REAL bluetooth (the one that syncs with any bluetooth device properly) and multi-tasking, something even the Sony Ericsson k800i has done since the beginning :/

Yeah I really do hope people get fed up their lagging very soon so it might pressure them to speed it up. As it is, Apple can make whatever they want and people will buy it.

Was it this that allows two people to see different things on the same screen from two perspectives? I saw that recently but can't remember what the product was.

[AgnesIO]

Well I laughed:D

still want an iPad though..

Not sure on iPad, but certainly tempted with a tablet pc - time will tell :D

[DaveTaylor]

As many people have said, time will tell, after watching the keynote video I did become more impressed with it, the way it worked, ok correct it's a bigger iPhone, I do agree with this, but if you look at this iPad differently, for example the use in a family situation to show pictures, a big, light, portable, very clear screen for photos and movies to pass around, it's expensive but to some people who do a lot of things like that it's possible, another scenario could be a photographer wanting to show a potential client photos, from experience if you show up with an expensive item to show off your work the client is possible to accept you more as it shows your willing to invest money and event into it.

The iPhone is a personal item, and what I think is due to it being a bigger iPhone it's clouded peoples judgement a little in that this possibly isn't designed for a single person, it's designed for a family to use. Games for kids, word editing for parents, contacts for both, it's an expensive for possible management system for a busy family, it could be used several ways within a family and I think that's what Apple may have aimed it at.

[cocaine]

an overstretched ipod. pointless.

[StefanWolves]

As many people have said, time will tell, after watching the keynote video I did become more impressed with it, the way it worked, ok correct it's a bigger iPhone, I do agree with this, but if you look at this iPad differently, for example the use in a family situation to show pictures, a big, light, portable, very clear screen for photos and movies to pass around, it's expensive but to some people who do a lot of things like that it's possible, another scenario could be a photographer wanting to show a potential client photos, from experience if you show up with an expensive item to show off your work the client is possible to accept you more as it shows your willing to invest money and event into it.

The iPhone is a personal item, and what I think is due to it being a bigger iPhone it's clouded peoples judgement a little in that this possibly isn't designed for a single person, it's designed for a family to use. Games for kids, word editing for parents, contacts for both, it's an expensive for possible management system for a busy family, it could be used several ways within a family and I think that's what Apple may have aimed it at.


an overstretched ipod. pointless.
:rolleyes:

[cocaine]

The iPhone is a personal item, and what I think is due to it being a bigger iPhone it's clouded peoples judgement a little in that this possibly isn't designed for a single person, it's designed for a family to use. Games for kids, word editing for parents, contacts for both, it's an expensive for possible management system for a busy family, it could be used several ways within a family and I think that's what Apple may have aimed it at.
:rolleyes:

yes. an oversized ipod. a kfc increasing a regular sized bucket of chicken into a family sized bucket of chicken doesnt make it break into a new market. its still an oversized bucket of chicken.

[StefanWolves]

yes. an oversized ipod. a kfc increasing a regular sized bucket of chicken into a family sized bucket of chicken doesnt make it break into a new market. its still an oversized bucket of chicken.
ugh, no reasoning with people like you.

ignored.

[HotelUser]

yes. an oversized ipod. a kfc increasing a regular sized bucket of chicken into a family sized bucket of chicken doesnt make it break into a new market. its still an oversized bucket of chicken.

So you're just going to totally claim ignorance to the fact that it has a faster processor higher screen rez, re-written applications including official "ibooking" and a heck of a lot better mail and itunes. I'm not saying it's going to be the best tablet ever but I am not silly enough to go ranting about how bad it's going to be without having tried it. Don't be the typical msfanboy!!!1111

[Andys]

cba to go through thread, but its basicaly a big ipod touch without 3g?

[HotelUser]

cba to go through thread, but its basicaly a big ipod touch without 3g?

There are models with 3g.

[Andys]

There are models with 3g.
which will probably cost about an extra £100+ more?

[HotelUser]

which will probably cost about an extra £100+ more?

$130 to be precise!

[cocaine]

So you're just going to totally claim ignorance to the fact that it has a faster processor higher screen rez, re-written applications including official "ibooking" and a heck of a lot better mail and itunes. I'm not saying it's going to be the best tablet ever but I am not silly enough to go ranting about how bad it's going to be without having tried it. Don't be the typical msfanboy!!!1111

whilst accusing me of ignorance you have infact blissfully contradicted yourself, claiming that im a microsoft fanboy, when in fact i have owned 3 apple products myself.

and yes, while it does have a faster processor as you claim, that is to be expected with a bigger product, its obvious. bigger things would need faster components and internal hardware to make it work better. so yes, in some sense, it is just a bigger ipod.

[MrPinkPanther]

So you're just going to totally claim ignorance to the fact that it has a faster processor
Hardly. I expect the next iteration of the iPhone/iTouch to have a 1GHz processor. The processor increases every year in them and the 1GHz processor is the next natural step (Currently 833 MHz underclocked to 600MHz), it just so happens that the iPad is the first Apple Mobile device out this year which is why it's the first one with 1GHz.


higher screen rez
Indeed but I suspect few applications will take advantage of it. As an App developer I certainly won't be. Why would I develop an application for the High res iPad which can't run on iPhones and iTouches which have a much larger support base when I could just develop it for the iPhone and iTouch and upscale it to that. If you want to design a high res application you will have to redo all of the graphics (Unless it's openGL which most aren't).


re-written applications including official "ibooking" and a heck of a lot better mail and itunes.
The iBookStore is ok at best. The point is it's difficult to read books on screens like the iPad rather than traditional eBook readers because they work in a totally different way. Reading a book on the iPad is the same as reading one on a PC. Anyway considering the kindle and such are much cheaper than the iPad I'm not going to shell out £400 for an iPad am I? Oh and plus I don't think I've ever travelled and thought wow a book is too big to take with me so I'll take an even bigger device, the iPad. The only use it's going to have Book wise is for people who travel for months without going home and so need a lot of books with them, in which case the kindle is better.


a heck of a lot better mail and itunes.
Mail: If anything I'd say it's better on the iTouch and iPhone, it's a lot simpler with options to go advanced. I bought an iTouch when they first came out and I've use the mail app daily, have I ever needed any more options? No. As it is you get a list of the emails in your inbox and you can read them and open attachments and even search if you want to. That's all I'd ever use on my computer and thats all I'd ever use on my iTouch.

iTunes: It looks cool on the iPad but simply isn't needed. The iPhone version once again is much simpler and easy to use. You search for what you want in the basic interface, find it, test it and download it.


I am not silly enough to go ranting about how bad it's going to be without having tried it.
No but you're the one claiming that mail and itunes are a "heck of a lot better" without trying it. He's simply judging it on it's concept which is flawed. It's you thats making more specific judgements without trying it.


Don't be the typical msfanboy!!!1111
Oh ok, so if you don't like one apple product you are an MS Fanboy? I don't like it and I'm writing this message on a MacBook with a pile of Objective-C books next to it along with my iPod Touch. Am I an MS Fanboy?

[HotelUser]

whilst accusing me of ignorance you have infact blissfully contradicted yourself, claiming that im a microsoft fanboy, when in fact i have owned 3 apple products myself.

and yes, while it does have a faster processor as you claim, that is to be expected with a bigger product, its obvious. bigger things would need faster components and internal hardware to make it work better. so yes, in some sense, it is just a bigger ipod.

No, it's not just a bigger ipod, it's a new product. I'm finding it exceedingly funny that you continue to say all it is, is a bigger iPod, when it even required a new SDK to develop on.

@FlyDuo ditch objc, learn java.

[MrPinkPanther]

when it even required a new SDK to develop on.
No it doesn't. It runs on the iPhone SDK the same as the iTouch and iPhone. It just requires you to update to 3.2 to support the larger screen size.


@FlyDuo ditch objc, learn java.
Try running Java on the iPhone, see how far you get. I know several other languages so I have no need to learn Java.

[cocaine]

No, it's not just a bigger ipod, it's a new product. I'm finding it exceedingly funny that you continue to say all it is, is a bigger iPod, when it even required a new SDK to develop on.

@FlyDuo ditch objc, learn java.

its been answered already


No it doesn't. It runs on the iPhone SDK the same as the iTouch and iPhone. It just requires you to update to 3.2 to support the larger screen size.

[hah]

looks like a big itouch

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[Callum.]

i'll buy one just for the sake of having one.

[HotelUser]

No it doesn't. It runs on the iPhone SDK the same as the iTouch and iPhone. It just requires you to update to 3.2 to support the larger screen size.


Try running Java on the iPhone, see how far you get. I know several other languages so I have no need to learn Java.

SWT, GWT and android SDK.

[GommeInc]

Advertised and even reviewed as a large iPod Touch. They may as well call it the iPod Touch XL and actually make a real tablet device. Steve Jobs, the idiot that he is, did a terrible job announcing it. He made references to the NetBook market and, like a fool, suggested it was to "bridge the gap" between the iPhone/iPod Touch and the MacBook, which it doesn't, as it lacks any true qualities of a MacBook or a device with a full working OS.

Think of it like this:


There a steep valley with two islands either side. One island is Hand Held Island, and the other is OS X Island. The iPod Touch XL is sitting in the city of Hand Held Island, having tea and drawfing over the iPhone and iPod Touch.

There is a review/look over the product on the BBC Website, and the main from Apple talking about it sounds so unconvinced by the product.

It such an underwhelmed product, and relies too much on other devices. If it was to sit in and bridge the gap between the Touch and the MacBook, it would be (mostly) independent. If you have a photographer and property developer take photos of homes to show to you, he may as well show you on the camera than look like a right boob who has to get out his MacBook/Laptop just to show you the pictures, seeing as you can't hook the darn thing up to the camera to transfer the pictures. It's pretty lame and laughable, really. The HP Tablet at least has USB connectivity, and will run on a lo-fi version of Windows 7, not Windows Mobile.

[MrPinkPanther]

SWT, GWT and android SDK.
I have no interest in developing for other platforms so it's useless. Objective-C is for developing for the iPhone so therefore I shouldn't "ditch it". Since I'm getting quite 'fluent' in it, it would be a waste of time stopping now.

[samsaBEAR]

cba to read through the whole thread, but the thing i don't like about is lack of multi-tasking. if they changed this through a firmware update (if possible) then i might think about getting one. heck, my old sony ericsson phone could multi task, and that came out like 2005

[---MAD---]

I think the Ipad has quite a few issues and don't plan on purchasing one in the near future. I am yet to buy my first apple product, thought this would be it from all the rumours that floated down but I guess the waiting game continues.

To me the Ipad has far too many disadvantages such as not support flashing, no multi tasking and the fact you cannot install applications that aren't allowed through apples marketplace. Apple is simply in far too much control with this device (and its iphone/touch) which always pushes me away from their devices.

I do however like the fact it's so thin and portable but I can imagine typing on it to be a pain, then again it's not designed for writing an essay or anything demanding.

I guess the main issues for it are yet to be discovered however at the moment, to me, it just seems like a larger screened ipod touch.

[danzooo]

It's an iPod Touch with giantism.