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Stryderman
04-02-2010, 09:29 PM
Can we not have at least 1 middleman? Even if its habbox staff or someone you pick out or someone who is a trusted pin seller etc.

I know there was trusted list an alot of people used to scam but what i mean is sort of similar but not if that makes sense? :P Gonna confuse you all again.

Like gaz as example mod on rs forum and i know alot of people trust him. Cant you use someone like him as mm.


Just annoys me that alot of people are like reher your not safe reher not going first reher reher reher.

+ it might get alot more people trading pins etc for hab and rs forum being a little bit more active.

SORRY GAZ DONT MEAN TO LIKE NOMINATE YOU JUST USING YOU AS EXAMPLE

Orangeesh
04-02-2010, 09:46 PM
From what i remember the trusted list didn't work at all, as people were doing (Example: 5 small trades to get on to the list, then doing one big trade but then scamming that person.)

Nice idea to have a middleman, but just because Im Habbox staff though doesn't mean people would want me as one. :)

Have to wait and see what management think about it.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 09:49 PM
From what i remember the trusted list didn't work at all, as people were doing (Example: 5 small trades to get on to the list, then doing one big trade but then scamming that person.)

Nice idea to have a middleman, but just because Im Habbox staff though doesn't mean people would want me as one. :)

Have to wait and see what management think about it.

nonono i wasnt nominating you i were using you as example :( ALTHOUGH ID LOVE FOR U 2 BE IT but still jus usin you as example dnt be mad plsplspls

But i dont mean like a big list i mean like 1 or 2 trusted people even if its some higher members of staff or something [considering they will do it] Just to make trading a bit more safer & to get trading a bit more active to.

Arch
04-02-2010, 09:51 PM
Middlemans that are mods would be much better than another trusted list.

Although i think this was suggested beforebut no Mods or memebers of staff wanted too because tbh it would get well annoying doing trades all the time. Other forums who MM get like a small percent of the trade thats why they do it

Orangeesh
04-02-2010, 09:51 PM
nonono i wasnt nominating you i were using you as example :( ALTHOUGH ID LOVE FOR U 2 BE IT but still jus usin you as example dnt be mad plsplspls

But i dont mean like a big list i mean like 1 or 2 trusted people even if its some higher members of staff or something [considering they will do it] Just to make trading a bit more safer & to get trading a bit more active to.

Ah ok missed that bit, could work if you used a smod or manager.
The current trading seems ok though? It's really not that active anymore either.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 09:53 PM
Middlemans that are mods would be much better than another trusted list.

Although i think this was suggested beforebut no Mods or memebers of staff wanted too because tbh it would get well annoying doing trades all the time. Other forums who MM get like a small percent of the trade thats why they do it

Yeh i wouldnt mind paying if i knew i was going to get a safe trade instead of get scammed tbh.


Ah ok missed that bit, could work if you used a smod or manager.
The current trading seems ok though? It's really not that active anymore either.

Yeh but it might be a little more active if people knew half of the people trying to sell stuff arent actually going to scam.

Callum.
04-02-2010, 09:53 PM
This is so stupid.

If there's still no easy way of trading then it won't work. And I actually can't remember orangeessh unless you started posting here recently.

And no one trades here anymore. Maybe a few years ago, but the section is hardly living right now.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 09:54 PM
This is so stupid.

If there's still no easy way of trading then it won't work. And I actually can't remember orangeessh unless you started posting here recently.

Im on about pins.. Not cash for hab

Hecktix
04-02-2010, 09:55 PM
I don't quite understand how you would like this to work?

So both halves of a trade go through this, "middleman?"

Is runescape trading on this forum that active? And is scamming such a problem as I haven't heard of any scams in those forums for quite some time now.

Callum.
04-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Im on about pins.. Not cash for hab

There's still very little sale of pins. If you look in the threads, no one has really bought or sold.


I don't quite understand how you would like this to work?

So both halves of a trade go through this, "middleman?"

Is runescape trading on this forum that active? And is scamming such a problem as I haven't heard of any scams in those forums for quite some time now.

No, probably just wants to be credited for an idea.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 09:57 PM
I don't quite understand how you would like this to work?

So both halves of a trade go through this, "middleman?"

Is runescape trading on this forum that active? And is scamming such a problem as I haven't heard of any scams in those forums for quite some time now.

Yeh both halfs go through mm.

Tbh i havnt seen any trades on it for ages cos imo most people think they are gonna get robbed, Thats why i wouldnt go first for anyone on there.

But im not on about rs cash only pins, cash for hab is dead long ago

Orangeesh
04-02-2010, 09:59 PM
This is so stupid.

If there's still no easy way of trading then it won't work. And I actually can't remember orangeessh unless you started posting here recently.

And no one trades here anymore. Maybe a few years ago, but the section is hardly living right now.

erm used to be purpleesh, been here for quite a long time lol :P

Very few people trade anymore, and the ones that do try to trade wont because neither want to go first in the trade.

Hecktix
04-02-2010, 10:00 PM
erm used to be purpleesh, been here for quite a long time lol :P

Very few people trade anymore, and the ones that do try to trade wont because neither want to go first in the trade.

What is your view on this?

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 10:01 PM
No, probably just wants to be credited for an idea.

Credited for an idea.. Please get over me negative repping you and go back to your precious ema thread.

All i want is to actually be able to buy pins for habbo without getting jacked every single time i try to do it.

Orangeesh
04-02-2010, 10:19 PM
What is your view on this?

Just taken a look at the section, there is quite alot of threads for people trying to buy/sell pins. None from what I can see have actually gone through with the trade.

A middleman could be a good idea to implement to make trade's safer and to give a guarantee of some sort, I think you would have to do a poll first to see if members would want one and if they would actually use the middleman and who they want as one etc. I cant see any harm in having one though.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 10:24 PM
Just taken a look at the section, there is quite alot of threads for people trying to buy/sell pins. None from what I can see have actually gone through with the trade.

A middleman could be a good idea to implement to make trade's safer and to give a guarantee of some sort, I think you would have to do a poll first to see if members would want one and if they would actually use the middleman and who they want as one etc. I cant see any harm in having one though.


A-MEN .

Hecktix
04-02-2010, 10:50 PM
We'll put this to a poll in the trading section and then see if the majority like the idea.

If that is the case this will be discussed further.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 10:51 PM
We'll put this to a poll in the trading section and then see if the majority like the idea.

If that is the case this will be discussed further.


Thankyou sir are you making one or am i ? :P

Black_Apalachi
05-02-2010, 06:35 AM
I don't quite understand how you would like this to work?

So both halves of a trade go through this, "middleman?"

Is runescape trading on this forum that active? And is scamming such a problem as I haven't heard of any scams in those forums for quite some time now.

It's not just Runescape players that could benefit from this. People buying VIP for Habbo furni as well as trades across hotels could make use of it but I'll leave it there because I've already commented in the poll thread.

As for a 'safe list', I think it could work if it was managed more closely. I didn't experience the last one but by the sound of it, it was extremely easy to establish yourself on it. Maybe if the list consisted of categories such as small trades, medium trades and large trades, this would clearly show what kinds of transactions people have completed safely and wouldn't create such a false sense of security.

The Professor
05-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Doesnt having a middleman nominated by habbox mean habbox is endorsing it which they don't want to?

Callum.
05-02-2010, 10:47 AM
Credited for an idea.. Please get over me negative repping you and go back to your precious ema thread.

All i want is to actually be able to buy pins for habbo without getting jacked every single time i try to do it.

I only realised you -repped me when you posted this. Wow, -1 madness! Go back? It was a thread to discuss who got ema bonuses, not to have you rant.


Thankyou sir are you making one or am i ? :P

See, there you go again. Want to be credited for a lame idea.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 05:07 PM
I only realised you -repped me when you posted this. Wow, -1 madness! Go back? It was a thread to discuss who got ema bonuses, not to have you rant.



See, there you go again. Want to be credited for a lame idea.


I dont want to be credited for anything, Id rather actually get something than be scammed from the rs section as i am in desp need of a pin ;)

I wasnt ranting it was stating a point of view so dont bother bringing it into other threads..

Callum.
05-02-2010, 09:33 PM
I dont want to be credited for anything, Id rather actually get something than be scammed from the rs section as i am in desp need of a pin ;)

I wasnt ranting it was stating a point of view so dont bother bringing it into other threads..

You were the one that mentioned it "go back to your bonus thread" oer whatever you say, so stupid.

Arch
05-02-2010, 09:44 PM
Doesnt having a middleman nominated by habbox mean habbox is endorsing it which they don't want to?

This is a very good point i mean if i got scammed by the MM or made up that i got scammed they would have no proof i didn't unless they vid every trade and then Habbox would have to pay the difference because they are setting up the MM.


I dont want to be credited for anything, Id rather actually get something than be scammed from the rs section as i am in desp need of a pin ;)

I wasnt ranting it was stating a point of view so dont bother bringing it into other threads..

You keep saying yuor going to get scammed but i don't think i've ever seen you get scammed so how do you know that its as bad as you make it out to be ?

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:45 PM
This is a very good point i mean if i got scammed by the MM or made up that i got scammed they would have no proof i didn't unless they vid every trade and then Habbox would have to pay the difference because they are setting up the MM.



You keep saying yuor going to get scammed but i don't think i've ever seen you get scammed so how do you know that its as bad as you make it out to be ?


Ive been here alot longer than my registered date. Ive been scammed plenty of times and no-one goes first. So to me id rather pay something and do a successful trade than not trade anything at all.

iAdam
05-02-2010, 09:55 PM
Right, back onto the thread topic now, not who's scammed who and such.

Hecktix
10-02-2010, 02:27 PM
It's been discussed within Management and we have decided that this idea will not go ahead.

If users would like to run a middle man scheme within their group then that is their choice but Habbox Forum will not be affiliated with such schemes.

This is because the moment we involve ourselves is the moment we become responsible.

Runescape trading has always been seperate (as with Habbo trading) and we do not wish to get involved now.

Trades between RS and Habbo are done at the users own risk and we do not believe a 'Middle Man' scheme will reduce this risk by much at all.

scottish
10-02-2010, 02:34 PM
Glad to see management came to a good conclusion

Nixt
10-02-2010, 02:39 PM
Glad to see management came to a good conclusion

I'll be honest I wasn't having any of it. We need not affiliate ourselves with something that could end up with us being held liable somewhere down the line.

Nevertheless, the runescape forum members are free to set up this scheme themselves, but there will be no official involvement.

Titch
10-02-2010, 02:41 PM
tbh i dont understand why we have a runescape trading forum, its bearly used....same with guides forum. and news tbh, i only post news to get an extra post count.

Nixt
10-02-2010, 02:43 PM
tbh i dont understand why we have a runescape trading forum, its bearly used....same with guides forum. and news tbh, i only post news to get an extra post count.

We're currently looking at sorting this out :).

Titch
10-02-2010, 02:44 PM
We're currently looking at sorting this out :).

aghhh good good :)

scottish
10-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Guides are most likely getting deleted from what i'm told

The trading forum needs to be removed and use the prefix's "BUYING" and "SELLING" as it's used mauybe a few times a month

News should stay as it's easy for someone whos not used runescape in 5 months to see the news posts of whats happend since they quit rather than looking through more pages of random threads to see whats updated :P

Hecktix
10-02-2010, 02:52 PM
We've made a decision about this and something will be happening soon ;)

scottish
10-02-2010, 02:56 PM
Also new forum rules for the trading section so you can only post if your wanting to buy it like habbo trading, so you don't get 3 pages of comments and no-one actually buying.

Trading should be merged with the main aswell as it's barely used and only time posted in is for commenting/free post count and not anyone actually buying anything so should use buying/selling prefix's

the "Recent updates, future updates, news & rumours" needs to be renamed "Recent updates" or "News" or something similair cause that huge name looks ugly and it's not like habbo you can't predict something thats going to happen to rumours basically never happen, i disagree with merging this with the main section as news is useful on its own and would defeat it if its merged with main

Guides needs to be removed as its useless and theres sites made specifically for guides and such

Goals/achievements is fine

Hecktix
10-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Trading rules will be looked at :)

Stryderman
10-02-2010, 06:11 PM
Thankyou anyway :)

Black_Apalachi
10-02-2010, 06:53 PM
It's been discussed within Management and we have decided that this idea will not go ahead.

If users would like to run a middle man scheme within their group then that is their choice but Habbox Forum will not be affiliated with such schemes.

This is because the moment we involve ourselves is the moment we become responsible.

Runescape trading has always been seperate (as with Habbo trading) and we do not wish to get involved now.

Trades between RS and Habbo are done at the users own risk and we do not believe a 'Middle Man' scheme will reduce this risk by much at all.

Surely if Habbox was taking this stance all along then it was pointless even suggesting the idea for debate?

scottish
10-02-2010, 07:10 PM
apparently they only thought of that after we had the "debate" / argument in the thread in rs section :P

Hecktix
10-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Surely if Habbox was taking this stance all along then it was pointless even suggesting the idea for debate?

We like to get a full idea of the options available to us before making a final decision.

Black_Apalachi
10-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Yeah but it sounded like it was a policy that has always been, especially as it sounded like Garion was against the idea as soon as he heard of it :P

Hecktix
10-02-2010, 07:40 PM
Yeah but it sounded like it was a policy that has always been, especially as it sounded like Garion was against the idea as soon as he heard of it :P

Personal opinion is a very small factor in making management decisions on the forum as it effects such a vast amount of users, therefore it's healthy for us to understand exactly what an idea would emcompass before shrugging it off entirely.

If an idea is plausible we will investigate all avenues, which is one reason why things take a little while to get done, as we like to know we are making the right decision. Around 600 people use Habbox each day, one bad decision by us could make a large proportion of those people unhappy.

9y
10-02-2010, 10:23 PM
I'll happily mm, i dont even play anymore.

Stryderman
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
I'll happily mm, i dont even play anymore.

There aint going to be a mm

Black_Apalachi
11-02-2010, 12:56 AM
Fair enough Oli x


There aint going to be a mm

Yeah I don't think so either. Nobody is going to trust a regular member to do it - they may as well just trust the person they're trading with

Stryderman
11-02-2010, 12:58 AM
Yeah I don't think so either. Nobody is going to trust a regular member to do it - they may as well just trust the person they're trading with

Except then we are back to square one on who do we actually trust :P

Black_Apalachi
11-02-2010, 03:38 AM
I guess you'll just have to trust your instincts and things like their reputation on the forum :P

Arch
11-02-2010, 08:42 PM
If you mean rep amounts, rep / post count mean nothing. But if you ment overall rep as a trader then yes it doenst mean alot.

Hex if you wanna do a trade and you have to go first PM me telling me who it is and i can tell you if I believe they are safe or not because i've traded quite a few people in the RS section and have seen people accuse others so i generally know who is safe and who isnt :P

Callum.
11-02-2010, 09:01 PM
It's been discussed within Management and we have decided that this idea will not go ahead.

If users would like to run a middle man scheme within their group then that is their choice but Habbox Forum will not be affiliated with such schemes.

This is because the moment we involve ourselves is the moment we become responsible.

Runescape trading has always been seperate (as with Habbo trading) and we do not wish to get involved now.

Trades between RS and Habbo are done at the users own risk and we do not believe a 'Middle Man' scheme will reduce this risk by much at all.

I PMed saying basically that and didn't get a reply after, I'm good.

Stryderman
11-02-2010, 09:02 PM
If you mean rep amounts, rep / post count mean nothing. But if you ment overall rep as a trader then yes it doenst mean alot.

Hex if you wanna do a trade and you have to go first PM me telling me who it is and i can tell you if I believe they are safe or not because i've traded quite a few people in the RS section and have seen people accuse others so i generally know who is safe and who isnt :P


Taa .

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