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Hecktix
04-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Thread title says it all really.

Would you like a safe middleman (possibly a moderator), who both halves of a trade would need to go through to ensure that all pin trades are fair?

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 10:55 PM
Yh thankyou :P

Special
04-02-2010, 11:00 PM
Yeah. But instead of just a moderator, you should have something new like 'Official Middleman'

HotelUser
04-02-2010, 11:01 PM
Yeah this is probably a good idea.

Blinger1
04-02-2010, 11:02 PM
The problem with this idea is that someone could be friends with the middleman and help the scam ;)

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 11:03 PM
The problem with this idea is that someone could be friends with the middleman and help the scam ;)


Thats why you pick a mod or someone higher up who is least likely to scam. Otherwise it will just be a repeat of "the safe list" which was a joke imo sorry.

scottish
04-02-2010, 11:04 PM
what if the middleman gets bored and scams then their both down

and tbh i wouldn't trust half the mods on here anyways lol

They could easily scam once in a while and the persons unlikely to video it as they're supposed to be a safe middleman and if the member is new its his word against the mod's so..

Blinger1
04-02-2010, 11:06 PM
Thats why you pick a mod or someone higher up who is least likely to scam. Otherwise it will just be a repeat of "the safe list" which was a joke imo sorry.
Still, you can be friends with a mod and they can help with the scam.

Stryderman
04-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Still, you can be friends with a mod and they can help with the scam.

Its better than no trading at all with the trade section dead cos no1 will go first because they dont want to get scammed.

And most of the mods now are alot more trusted than they used to be.

You just have to pick out someone who alot of people trust and/or is in high management.




Anyway isnt it worth a go?

FlyingJesus
04-02-2010, 11:09 PM
I don't use this section but thought I'd stick my nose in because all I'm doing is playing pokemon anyway so yeah if you were to go through with this I think it would need to be someone far higher up than a simple mod position - history shows that we've had untrustworthy mods in our time, it would need to be an admin at the least I reckon otherwise it's possible with high price trades that the potential gain would be far too tempting for most kids

Orangeesh
04-02-2010, 11:09 PM
what if the middleman gets bored and scams then their both down

and tbh i wouldn't trust half the mods on here anyways lol

They could easily scam once in a while and the persons unlikely to video it as they're supposed to be a safe middleman and if the member is new its his word against the mod's so..

Would be best to use an smod or someone higher up.

Titch
04-02-2010, 11:21 PM
Yes but it would need to be someone very trusted.

Arch
05-02-2010, 02:47 AM
Someone very trusted and someone high in managment will most likely not want to/wont have time to do every single trade

scottish
05-02-2010, 02:49 AM
i'm with ^

atm high management are rarely on habbo as it is so :S

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 02:49 AM
Someone very trusted and someone high in managment will most likely not want to/wont have time to do every single trade


Yeh but as people are saying there is not many trades as it is, And if they get a small cut out of it why not do it every so often? :rolleyes:


Just gonna make the community better an imo its worth a shot if it works its good if it fails then we tried.

Blinger1
05-02-2010, 02:51 AM
Yeh but as people are saying there is not many trades as it is, And if they get a small cut out of it why not do it every so often? :rolleyes:


Just gonna make the community better an imo its worth a shot if it works its good if it fails then we tried.
and if it does fail then we won't hear the end of it because we could have prevented it somehow.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 02:54 AM
and if it does fail then we won't hear the end of it because we could have prevented it somehow.


Well at the moment no1 is trading bugger all cos there used to be too many scammers, If this gets more trades then its going to be a success, At least if they do try it means your less likely to get jacked and should hopefully increase trades.

Arch
05-02-2010, 02:55 AM
Yeh but as people are saying there is not many trades as it is, And if they get a small cut out of it why not do it every so often? :rolleyes:


Just gonna make the community better an imo its worth a shot if it works its good if it fails then we tried.

So youll pay the small cut for all of us then ?

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 02:58 AM
So youll pay the small cut for all of us then ?

No.. But wouldnt you rather pay a hc extra than lose like 20 hc to some jebend jacking you?

Its up to you whether you use it if it happens, But it might increase the trades and cut out the scammers :rolleyes:

Black_Apalachi
05-02-2010, 03:04 AM
I don't use this section but thought I'd stick my nose in because all I'm doing is playing pokemon anyway so yeah if you were to go through with this I think it would need to be someone far higher up than a simple mod position - history shows that we've had untrustworthy mods in our time, it would need to be an admin at the least I reckon otherwise it's possible with high price trades that the potential gain would be far too tempting for most kids

FJ just went forward in time a few hours, read my mind and posted it here. Basically I thought I'd stick my nose in too :P because if it concerned me, I would say yes have a middleman but only if it's someone like Oli or Garion. Although I can imagine such a role being added onto the current job descriptions, becoming slightly inefficient.

If this does go through however, could it be applied to the trading of Habbo furni for donator/VIP? I would also suggest applying it to trading between hotels.

Arch
05-02-2010, 03:04 AM
Well i mean i never go first so i mean paying the extra bit would suck for me cuz i could do the trade fairly and not have to pay ?

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 03:06 AM
Well i mean i never go first so i mean paying the extra bit would suck for me cuz i could do the trade fairly and not have to pay ?

And everyone wonders why there is no trades on the rs section.

No one goes first im not saying the mm will deffo ask for a cut but imo id rather pay a cut than go first an lose 6£ or 15 odd hc, Wouldnt you..



& anyway its not compulsary to use a mm if you dont want to then dont..

scottish
05-02-2010, 03:08 AM
if the intention of half the people selling/buying is to scam anyways then it still won't be done so won't increase activity, also alot of the forum don't use runescape and a minority do so it's not going to be increased by much if any.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 03:10 AM
if the intention of half the people selling/buying is to scam anyways then it still won't be done so won't increase activity, also alot of the forum don't use runescape and a minority do so it's not going to be increased by much if any.


Even so shouldnt that minority be given a chance to actually be able to trade without getting scammed everytime.. And imo the reason no-one actually trades is because literally everyone is like no not going first.

scottish
05-02-2010, 03:12 AM
If they were gonna get scammed before then nothing is changing as the people who intend on scamming aren't going to use the MM......

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 03:13 AM
If they were gonna get scammed before then nothing is changing as the people who intend on scamming aren't going to use the MM......


But the people who are genuine will.

And it would increase the activity if it was a success as people on habbo who played runescape would start joining to use rs section again.

Callum.
05-02-2010, 10:54 AM
what if the middleman gets bored and scams then their both down

and tbh i wouldn't trust half the mods on here anyways lol

They could easily scam once in a while and the persons unlikely to video it as they're supposed to be a safe middleman and if the member is new its his word against the mod's so..

This.


Still, you can be friends with a mod and they can help with the scam.

This.


Its better than no trading at all with the trade section dead cos no1 will go first because they dont want to get scammed.

And most of the mods now are alot more trusted than they used to be.

You just have to pick out someone who alot of people trust and/or is in high management.




Anyway isnt it worth a go?

I haven't seen you post much so not sure how active you are or if I'm just so inactive but how are the mods trusted? Orange has been a mod for like 2 weeks (I do remember you now, but purple) and the others come and go. When we had loads of people trading if no one didn't go first the trade wouldn't happen. Getting scammed was a risk habbox didn't care we made.

Titch
05-02-2010, 12:03 PM
Let me be the middleman, i wont scam, honest (a)

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 01:43 PM
This.



This.



I haven't seen you post much so not sure how active you are or if I'm just so inactive but how are the mods trusted? Orange has been a mod for like 2 weeks (I do remember you now, but purple) and the others come and go. When we had loads of people trading if no one didn't go first the trade wouldn't happen. Getting scammed was a risk habbox didn't care we made.

A forum mod would not be the middleman, it would be an smod or someone higher up like a manager. But at the moment we are just asking if you would like a middleman to help with pin trades. It would be completely optional to use him/her.

scottish
05-02-2010, 01:52 PM
A forum mod would not be the middleman, it would be an smod or someone higher up like a manager. But at the moment we are just asking if you would like a middleman to help with pin trades. It would be completely optional to use him/her.

smods+ spend hardly any time on habbo as it is so i doubt they'd always be available when a trade is needed.

If its optional then its not reducing scamming as the people with the intention of scamming aren't going to use the middleman anyways...

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 02:06 PM
smods+ spend hardly any time on habbo as it is so i doubt they'd always be available when a trade is needed.

If its optional then its not reducing scamming as the people with the intention of scamming aren't going to use the middleman anyways...

Which if they do refuse makes them obvious scammers. Giving way to the people who want legit trades :)

Callum.
05-02-2010, 02:54 PM
Which if they do refuse makes them obvious scammers. Giving way to the people who want legit trades :)

It doesn't make them obvious scammers at all. I haven't scammed here and I'd never use a MM. So haven't most people who have built up a trusted rep and can get vouches.

scottish
05-02-2010, 03:15 PM
Someone whos new to habboxforum isn't instantly going to trust a MM they never heard of or know anything about?

I sure as hell wouldn't trust most people on this forum and everyone who knows me knows i don't scam so..

IceNineKills
05-02-2010, 03:21 PM
no as i don't trust this sections moderator.

and just because they're a mod doesn't mean they wont scam.

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 03:35 PM
no as i don't trust this sections moderator.

and just because they're a mod doesn't mean they wont scam.

Still holding a grudge against me for giving you that infraction? k mate

oh and if you actually read this thread you would know that the middleman isnt going to be a forum mod.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 05:02 PM
no as i don't trust this sections moderator.

and just because they're a mod doesn't mean they wont scam.

Your someone who i would never go first for anyway so i dont know what your chatting about


Someone whos new to habboxforum isn't instantly going to trust a MM they never heard of or know anything about?

I sure as hell wouldn't trust most people on this forum and everyone who knows me knows i don't scam so..


Right so people new to other sites like sythe and the likes dont trust a mm straight away? of course they do and tbh if they wanna get scammed let them its OPTIONAL.


It doesn't make them obvious scammers at all. I haven't scammed here and I'd never use a MM. So haven't most people who have built up a trusted rep and can get vouches.

Yeh except no-one on the rs section is trusted at all imo, They all acuse each other of scamming. Anyway if you dont wanna use it then dont its OPTIONAL.


Anyway if you was new wouldnt you rather use a mm than go first for half the people on rs section? And dont say no cos i wouldnt go first cos you blatently wouldnt get a trade.

scottish
05-02-2010, 05:21 PM
Your someone who i would never go first for anyway so i dont know what your chatting about




Right so people new to other sites like sythe and the likes dont trust a mm straight away? of course they do and tbh if they wanna get scammed let them its OPTIONAL.



Yeh except no-one on the rs section is trusted at all imo, They all acuse each other of scamming. Anyway if you dont wanna use it then dont its OPTIONAL.


Anyway if you was new wouldnt you rather use a mm than go first for half the people on rs section? And dont say no cos i wouldnt go first cos you blatently wouldnt get a trade.

comparing habbox to a site built to allow this sort of trading, DIFFERENCE. If i joined a site and they wished me to trade my pin/hcs to a middleman i've never heard of i wouldn't do it and would make a thread without the use of a middle man

Theres no point anyways rarely anyone on the forum actually uses RS and those who do evidently have their own methods of obtaining pins, it's not as if 5 people get scammed a day or anything :S if people don't want to go first they don't trade its that simple, if someone wants the pin that much they'll go first so....

Name a trustworthy person who'd get this position who is on habbo alot then? Rarely any smod+ plays habbo so.......

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 05:28 PM
comparing habbox to a site built to allow this sort of trading, DIFFERENCE. If i joined a site and they wished me to trade my pin/hcs to a middleman i've never heard of i wouldn't do it and would make a thread without the use of a middle man

Theres no point anyways rarely anyone on the forum actually uses RS and those who do evidently have their own methods of obtaining pins, it's not as if 5 people get scammed a day or anything :S if people don't want to go first they don't trade its that simple, if someone wants the pin that much they'll go first so....

Name a trustworthy person who'd get this position who is on habbo alot then? Rarely any smod+ plays habbo so.......

Id trust alot of people on this forum. Id trust gaz + Mr-trainor [not nominating you ;)] Theres two for you and they arnt even that high up. They dont have to be on habbo alot just be able to mm when they can.

Its up to you if you use it so stop moaning i for one would, to actually get a trade instead of posting a thread and gettin 5 diff replys saying not going first. If there was a mm it would increase the trade section on here, As 1 people will actually trade through a mm, 2 people from habbo hearing it trades successful would come on and start using, 3 will decrease scamming. ANd people rarely use the trading forum because literally everyone who uses it is out to scam "not going first" "neither am i" dead end neither trade..

And your saying you wouldnt even trust a mm on a site to make that? and your trying to make me convince you to use it on here. If you dont want to then dont but stop finding excuses for people who would actually benefit from it.

scottish
05-02-2010, 05:37 PM
and i'm pretty sure its been said 3 times+ it'll be smod+ not a normal forum moderator = they 2 gone.

If you aren't on habbo alot you won't be on alot when people need MM's so it's no real help if your not available when they need you

lol? no-ones going to go around habbo saying YES I USED HABBOXFORUM TO MY PIN FOR THESE 15 HCS WHICH IF A MODERATOR SEES THIS WILL INSTANTLY BAN ME AS IT IS AGAISNT THE HABBO WAY. GOOD DAY JOIN HABBOXFORUM.COM AND USE THE MM! so it doesn't increase anything on habbo.

It won't decrease scamming as if someone has the intention of scamming they WONT use the MM so still going to be scammed if someone wants to buy.

People rarely used the trading forum because rarely anyone on habbox uses runescape as most of them have quit either runescape or habboxforum unlike back in the day when it was all made (rs forum)

I wouldn't trust an MM on here if i just joined as i have no clue who anyone is and even if the person was appointed they could still easily scam as its my word against the smod+'s?

Your complaining about me moaning yet your moaning aswell, get over it i have a different opinion to you.

So as i previously stated name a smod+ whos trustworthy and on habbo enough to do this and willing too.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 05:41 PM
and i'm pretty sure its been said 3 times+ it'll be smod+ not a normal forum moderator = they 2 gone.

If you aren't on habbo alot you won't be on alot when people need MM's so it's no real help if your not available when they need you

lol? no-ones going to go around habbo saying YES I USED HABBOXFORUM TO MY PIN FOR THESE 15 HCS WHICH IF A MODERATOR SEES THIS WILL INSTANTLY BAN ME AS IT IS AGAISNT THE HABBO WAY. GOOD DAY JOIN HABBOXFORUM.COM AND USE THE MM! so it doesn't increase anything on habbo.

It won't decrease scamming as if someone has the intention of scamming they WONT use the MM so still going to be scammed if someone wants to buy.

People rarely used the trading forum because rarely anyone on habbox uses runescape as most of them have quit either runescape or habboxforum unlike back in the day when it was all made (rs forum)

I wouldn't trust an MM on here if i just joined as i have no clue who anyone is and even if the person was appointed they could still easily scam as its my word against the smod+'s?

Your complaining about me moaning yet your moaning aswell, get over it i have a different opinion to you.

So as i previously stated name a smod+ whos trustworthy and on habbo enough to do this and willing too.

Yes it will if people on habbo are like i need a rs pin someone will turn round an go try hxf they have mm so you aint gonna get scammed. ta-da increased trades. People rarely use trading section cos literally no-one will go first which means a dead end not because the forum isnt as active, Yeh i admit its not as active as it once was but its not completely dead either. Anyway it should be given ago if it fails then my sincere apologies but if it succeeds then what have we lost? We have got everything to gain from adding a mm, And if you say ppl who start wouldnt use it then thats up to them aint it.. Will bring out people who are actually prepared to buy/sell to be able to.

scottish
05-02-2010, 05:49 PM
I don't think i've ever seen anyone on habbo say they want a rs pin and i've used it for 6-7 years now...

It's another pointless feature being added

you avoided my question.


So as i previously stated name a smod+ whos trustworthy and on habbo enough to do this and willing too.

answer.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 05:52 PM
I don't think i've ever seen anyone on habbo say they want a rs pin and i've used it for 6-7 years now...

It's another pointless feature being added

you avoided my question.



answer.


Im not answering it as i dont need to. It hasnt yet been approved and when it does i have no say in the matter of who or who its not going to be. So why does it really matter? I have seen alot of people on habbo trying to buy rs pins for 20 odd hc and alot of them are trusted casino dealers.

[Jay]
05-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Yes that would be good however it does need to be someone who can do the roll well. I dont think a mod is the way to go as they have other things, you will need to find someone who is trusted and has the time on thier hands.
However adding to that I havent really heard of anyone being scammed for a while, I think as long as you trade with the right people you should be fine and a middle man could be a waste of time.
One more point if you did have a middle man and the trade was done lets say the pin may have worked however the person says no it has not what does the middle man do? Its hard for the middle man to take complete controll unless they have access to the rs accounts as well. In a way more scams are likley to occur with a middle man then without one.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 06:19 PM
;6283655']Yes that would be good however it does need to be someone who can do the roll well. I dont think a mod is the way to go as they have other things, you will need to find someone who is trusted and has the time on thier hands.
However adding to that I havent really heard of anyone being scammed for a while, I think as long as you trade with the right people you should be fine and a middle man could be a waste of time.
One more point if you did have a middle man and the trade was done lets say the pin may have worked however the person says no it has not what does the middle man do? Its hard for the middle man to take complete controll unless they have access to the rs accounts as well. In a way more scams are likley to occur with a middle man then without one.


Do it like sythe the mm puts in the pin for you :rolleyes:

scottish
05-02-2010, 06:20 PM
and you have to trust the mm with your rs account? even more no lol.

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 06:25 PM
;6283655']Yes that would be good however it does need to be someone who can do the roll well. I dont think a mod is the way to go as they have other things, you will need to find someone who is trusted and has the time on thier hands.
However adding to that I havent really heard of anyone being scammed for a while, I think as long as you trade with the right people you should be fine and a middle man could be a waste of time.
One more point if you did have a middle man and the trade was done lets say the pin may have worked however the person says no it has not what does the middle man do? Its hard for the middle man to take complete controll unless they have access to the rs accounts as well. In a way more scams are likley to occur with a middle man then without one.

If they said the pin did not work then they would have to prove it.

[Jay]
05-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Do it like sythe the mm puts in the pin for you :rolleyes:
yes but

and you have to trust the mm with your rs account? even more no lol.
That means that if they do get pass they will eventually gain enough passes and members pins to claim that the account is theres.
I think while this is a good idea it is also more risky.

Also orangeesh how? only legit way to prove is by filming they can just claim they dont have a camera. Print screen wont work as they can enter a diffrent pin and simply take a print screen of account without members

thickbleach
05-02-2010, 06:26 PM
I don't think it would work.

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 06:29 PM
;6283678']yes but

That means that if they do get pass they will eventually gain enough passes and members pins to claim that the account is theres.
I think while this is a good idea it is also more risky.

If you used someone who does not even play the game.. like for example Catzsy? btw dont you need to know the recovery question and answers to a recover an account?

[Jay]
05-02-2010, 06:32 PM
If you used someone who does not even play the game.. like for example Catzsy? btw dont you need to know the recovery question and answers to a recover an account?
You can claim you forgot them and some people may not have them.
Like I said it would be a good idea as long as you find the right person.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 06:41 PM
and you have to trust the mm with your rs account? even more no lol.

It were a suggestion not a definate.

Arch
05-02-2010, 08:44 PM
Just saying that if you enter the pin and its the right code it works, then you try to re-enter the pin it will say it doesnt work and you can screenie that and it will be the same numbers. The only way to do it would be giving your rs account, which I doubt a s-mod or anyone would scam but i mean i think everyone would rather lose 20Hcs getting scammed then lose their rs account...

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 08:45 PM
Just saying that if you enter the pin and its the right code it works, then you try to re-enter the pin it will say it doesnt work and you can screenie that and it will be the same numbers. The only way to do it would be giving your rs account, which I doubt a s-mod or anyone would scam but i mean i think everyone would rather lose 20Hcs getting scammed then lose their rs account...

Get them to screenie the account information page.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Get them to screenie the account information page.


Yeh by doing that you have the number of days on your account and you cant fake that, Also you can only use 1-2 pin at a time i believe ?

Arch
05-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Isuppose but they could just screenie before and show that :P or go on another account

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Isuppose but they could just screenie before and show that :P or go on another account

It shows account name and time and date i think :rolleyes:

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 08:57 PM
Isuppose but they could just screenie before and show that :P or go on another account

Well if they dont prove that the pin didn't work, by letting the middleman go on the account then they wont get their hcs back untill they do.

Edit: It dont show date and time


http://www.runescapetop.com/up/images/635b6.png

scottish
05-02-2010, 09:11 PM
By his post screenying it before it then its showing that the pin is fake

You could send that screenie u had, say the pin didn't work and get the hc's back when actually it was a legit pin and you edited the screenie/took it beforehand.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:13 PM
Well if they dont prove that the pin didn't work, by letting the middleman go on the account then they wont get their hcs back untill they do.

Edit: It dont show date and time


http://www.runescapetop.com/up/images/635b6.png



I meant when you login on the actual rs site. Does it still come up with you have blahblah days remaining 2 messages then last time logged in up top?

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 09:20 PM
By his post screenying it before it then its showing that the pin is fake

You could send that screenie u had, say the pin didn't work and get the hc's back when actually it was a legit pin and you edited the screenie/took it beforehand.

Arch just said that and Ive already explained what would happen.

But Pos then he would have to login to the actual game and not on the homepage?

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:22 PM
Arch just said that and Ive already explained what would happen.

But Pos then he would have to login to the actual game and not on the homepage?


Yeh but i mean if the mm isnt going on the account the acc owner can screenie this page and it should show last logged in etc an how many days membership

Black_Apalachi
05-02-2010, 09:25 PM
Just something for people saying it would be optional; nobody is going to trade with someone who is refusing to make use of a middleman if it is available. Anyway I'm for the idea but I also made a little suggestion regarding a safe list in the thread similar to this in Feedback.

As for who it should be, the only people I can think of are (mixture of high up role or well respected members imo) Garion, Oli, Catzsy, Neversoft, Misawa. There are probably others but they're the few that spring to mind who I would trust and I wouldn't think it would be hard for others to do so too. The reason I suggest some non-staff is because I can't imagine any existing staff members to be very keen on taking on extra work like this.

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 09:26 PM
Yeh but i mean if the mm isnt going on the account the acc owner can screenie this page and it should show last logged in etc an how many days membership

Im sure that just says last logged in 1 day ago, 2 days ago?

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:29 PM
Im sure that just says last logged in 1 day ago, 2 days ago?


I thought it said ip and the exact time and date?

Also says how many days are left too doesnt it :S

Arch
05-02-2010, 09:30 PM
People who aren't Mods shouldn't do it because they have really nothing to lose. Atleast if its a Mod or S-mod or something they could lose their position.

Callum.
05-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Wow, you're the only one really wanting this idea.

Scott has summed it up. Most new people wouldn't want an MM and a lot of people who have been here a while wouldn't want one either. Too much hastle for the amount of trades going on.

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 09:32 PM
I thought it said ip and the exact time and date?

Also says how many days are left too doesnt it :S

Oh maybe. I never logged in that much though haha.

Arch
05-02-2010, 09:33 PM
Also if you refused to use an MM because you didn't wanna pay a small price, people would assume your a scammer because you don't want to which in the end would lead to alot of people complaining because they don't want to waste more Hcs/money on paying someone for doing something that isn't needed.

Although if this was free i can't see any issues with what i said above :P

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:33 PM
Wow, you're the only one really wanting this idea.

Scott has summed it up. Most new people wouldn't want an MM and a lot of people who have been here a while wouldn't want one either. Too much hastle for the amount of trades going on.

This idea has been mentioned before so i aint the only one, And 10 votes v 3 ? Im not the only one.. Most new people would rather use a mm than go first i know i would an alot of other people would.

But like you said its not going to increase the habbo people coming [which i disagree] but if it doesnt then what does it matter if new people want to use it or not? It will benefit alot of people

Arch
05-02-2010, 09:48 PM
This idea has been mentioned before so i aint the only one, And 10 votes v 3 ? Im not the only one.. Most new people would rather use a mm than go first i know i would an alot of other people would.

But like you said its not going to increase the habbo people coming [which i disagree] but if it doesnt then what does it matter if new people want to use it or not? It will benefit alot of people

Yes but lets be honest the people voting for it don't even use this section so their votes shouldn't count as much, and tbh i'd trust quite a few people who use this section. Others posting they want it and they won't even use it cuz they don't use this section is rather pointless.

Although i did vote for no, i could go either way i really don't care i just went with no because i think the Nos are making a better argument then the Yes' lmao

scottish
05-02-2010, 09:48 PM
This idea has been mentioned before so i aint the only one, And 10 votes v 3 ? Im not the only one.. Most new people would rather use a mm than go first i know i would an alot of other people would.

But like you said its not going to increase the habbo people coming [which i disagree] but if it doesnt then what does it matter if new people want to use it or not? It will benefit alot of people

your the only one replying to every post of people saying they don't want it, no-one else is

And the 10 people who voted yes what 2 of them actually play?

AidenFTW24 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50223), Bolt660 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55726), brandon (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3638), Catzsy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17293), CelticFC (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=20922), Grig (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=8106), KingTitch (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35709), Orangeesh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=23946), Pos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61929), Special (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=58594)


voted yes, bolt660, brandon, catzsy, celticFC, grig, organeesh, pos and special don't play so....

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 09:51 PM
your the only one replying to every post of people saying they don't want it, no-one else is

And the 10 people who voted yes what 2 of them actually play?

AidenFTW24 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50223), Bolt660 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55726), brandon (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3638), Catzsy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17293), CelticFC (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=20922), Grig (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=8106), KingTitch (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35709), Orangeesh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=23946), Pos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61929), Special (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=58594)


voted yes, bolt660, brandon, catzsy, celticFC, grig, organeesh, pos and special don't play so....


I do play though :rolleyes: And what does it matter if im replying to every post. If its going to benefit the trading section then why not allow it even to be tried? If it fails it fails then at least you can say we tried. And im replying cos id actually use it rather than posting with every1 saying NT GOIN 1ST LYK!!!!1111

scottish
05-02-2010, 09:58 PM
Runescape Name: Xuzii [Dont play anymore]

and i stated hes referring to you as your the one crying at anyone with an opinion different to yours.

Black_Apalachi
05-02-2010, 09:59 PM
Also if you refused to use an MM because you didn't wanna pay a small price, people would assume your a scammer because you don't want to which in the end would lead to alot of people complaining because they don't want to waste more Hcs/money on paying someone for doing something that isn't needed.

Although if this was free i can't see any issues with what i said above :P

I didn't just say that. Can people stop ignoring my posts please :'(

[Jay]
05-02-2010, 10:00 PM
The problem isint really the MM thats fine the problem is ensuring that the trade can be done without any problems.

However I do think this will be a waste of time for the simple reason being that not many people do trade pins anymore, I remember a while back somoene gave two pins away because he could not sell.

People are keen on it however and a trial run can be done to see how it works, if its succesfull then go for it if.

Also I do agree with you Sergio if a MM is put in place it has to be someone who is trusted and not a mod as that will be to much work, also your right that if there is a MM and somone does not want to use the MM then people will assume he is wanting to scam.

Stryderman
05-02-2010, 10:09 PM
Runescape Name: Xuzii [Dont play anymore]

and i stated hes referring to you as your the one crying at anyone with an opinion different to yours.


Im not crying i just believe this could work which is why im defending it. I havnt got a pin atm which is also why im not playing at the moment..

Orangeesh
05-02-2010, 10:10 PM
your the only one replying to every post of people saying they don't want it, no-one else is

And the 10 people who voted yes what 2 of them actually play?

AidenFTW24 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=50223), Bolt660 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55726), brandon (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3638), Catzsy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=17293), CelticFC (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=20922), Grig (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=8106), KingTitch (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=35709), Orangeesh (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=23946), Pos (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61929), Special (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=58594)


voted yes, bolt660, brandon, catzsy, celticFC, grig, organeesh, pos and special don't play so....

Could of at least spelt my name right scott :(
and yeh pretty obvious from the number of days left on my members lol :P

Im suprised that quite alot of people from the trading section have not voted. :rolleyes:

scottish
05-02-2010, 10:27 PM
i quickly wrote it cause lost is on !!!

No-one uses the trading section though lol

Black_Apalachi
06-02-2010, 02:37 AM
I suggest this poll be closed and reopened in Feedback or somewhere more generic because there's more than Runescape that can benefit.

Arch
06-02-2010, 06:16 AM
Yes but we don't want everyones general vote in feedback, this would effect the RS section so it should stay here because it affects these people not everyone on the forum who just votes for the sake of it.

Jahova
06-02-2010, 08:51 AM
Yes, I totally agree with this. So many people have been scammed in the past (including myself) so I know how it feels. This could put an end the scamming on Habbox Forum.

IceNineKills
06-02-2010, 02:27 PM
Still holding a grudge against me for giving you that infraction? k mate

oh and if you actually read this thread you would know that the middleman isnt going to be a forum mod.

No, I just have never really trusted you. I also couldn't be bothered to read the thread so I didn't know you wouldn't be the middleman anyway.

Seeing as how no admin or Smod gives a damn about this section none of them would be bothered to do the trade also I bet none of them have a runescape account. On some trades you'll need to have a certain amount of money on Runescape, how are they going to bother to get that (which will use up days of their time) just for a silly trade?


Your someone who i would never go first for anyway so i dont know what your chatting about

Seeing as I don't know who you are and as you're too scared to admit who you were before shows that you're trying to forget your past on this forum. Seeming as you've done bad before.

I would also like you to find the last time I done a trade on this forum which involved someone going first that I have done.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:31 PM
No, I just have never really trusted you. I also couldn't be bothered to read the thread so I didn't know you wouldn't be the middleman anyway.

Seeing as how no admin or Smod gives a damn about this section none of them would be bothered to do the trade also I bet none of them have a runescape account. On some trades you'll need to have a certain amount of money on Runescape, how are they going to bother to get that (which will use up days of their time) just for a silly trade?



Seeing as I don't know who you are and as you're too scared to admit who you were before shows that you're trying to forget your past on this forum. Seeming as you've done bad before.

I would also like you to find the last time I done a trade on this forum which involved someone going first that I have done.


This middleman is just for pins..

Me admitting to who i previously was has nothing to do with anything i dont want to reveal who i am as i did alot of stuff on habbo, nothing to do with the forum whatsoever.

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 02:32 PM
How would you be able to trust me or not trust me, Ive never traded you in the past or traded anyone in general for a very long time. :S
Surpised you dont remember me on purpleesh but meh.

Oli made this thread so surely he does care? At the end of the day this is to help forum members have safer and easier trades.

And this would only be used for pin to habbo trades not rs cash trades.



No, I just have never really trusted you. I also couldn't be bothered to read the thread so I didn't know you wouldn't be the middleman anyway.

Seeing as how no admin or Smod gives a damn about this section none of them would be bothered to do the trade also I bet none of them have a runescape account. On some trades you'll need to have a certain amount of money on Runescape, how are they going to bother to get that (which will use up days of their time) just for a silly trade?



Seeing as I don't know who you are and as you're too scared to admit who you were before shows that you're trying to forget your past on this forum. Seeming as you've done bad before.

I would also like you to find the last time I done a trade on this forum which involved someone going first that I have done.

IceNineKills
06-02-2010, 02:33 PM
This middleman is just for pins..

Me admitting to who i previously was has nothing to do with anything i dont want to reveal who i am as i did alot of stuff on habbo, nothing to do with the forum whatsoever.


Mybad on the first bit.

I think I know who you are anyway but I'm going to wait until others figure it out.



How would you be able to trust me or not trust me, Ive never traded you in the past or traded anyone in general for a very long time. :S
Surpised you dont remember me on purpleesh but meh.

Oli made this thread so surely he does care? At the end of the day this is to help forum members have safer and easier trades.

And this would only be used for pin to habbo trades not rs cash trades.

I do remember you on Purpleesh and even though we never traded doesn't mean I cannot decide whether i trust you or not.

How many times has Oli replied since he has made the thread?

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:35 PM
Mybad on the first bit.

I think I know who you are anyway but I'm going to wait until others figure it out.

It doesnt matter who figuires it out anyway its got nothing to do with the forum, And a few people know already besides its irrelevant to this thread.

scottish
06-02-2010, 02:38 PM
He was previously "Wiley"

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=3781378&postcount=3

is an insight as to what he did :)

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 02:39 PM
I do remember you on Purpleesh and even though we never traded doesn't mean I cannot decide whether i trust you or not.

How many times has Oli replied since he has made the thread?

Didn't say you couldn't just wondering what you were going on :P
I think Oli is waiting for the poll results before he comment's.

IceNineKills
06-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Also another reason why I think this is pointless, Having looked, the last pin to be sold on this forum was the 2nd of Jan.

http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6213865&postcount=28

Now being the 6th of Feb, it's just be a waste of time really. If it takes other 1 month for someone to sell a single pin then please tell me, what is the point?

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:41 PM
He was previously "Wiley"

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=3781378&postcount=3

is an insight as to what he did :)


Haha Wiley in #irc actually ;)

+ you linked me to a thread about my own .ca account which i got from someone which was banned when i got it? nice one..

scottish
06-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Poll results are irrelevant tbh as 90% of the people who voted yes don't and never have played runescape so really no need for em voting ;)

Catzsy
06-02-2010, 02:42 PM
For Habbox to appoint anybody to be a 'middleman' could compromise their liability, neutral standing and impartiality. I think this system does work on other forums but if it was implemented the way to go I think is for members to apply to be middlemen but for the members to vote if they should or not in a secret ballot. The old trusted system was better than it is now and from a personal point of view I do not see any difference between Runescape or Habbo Trading. If someone did prove to be untrustworthy then they could be removed. Got to be better than it is now although things would have be kept up-to-date in a scrupulous fashion which sometimes hasn't happened in the past.

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Also another reason why I think this is pointless, Having looked, the last pin to be sold on this forum was the 2nd of Jan.

http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6213865&postcount=28

Now being the 6th of Feb, it's just be a waste of time really. If it takes other 1 month for someone to sell a single pin then please tell me, what is the point?

They are all scared to go first in the trade as they don't want to get scammed, which is why this could be a useful idea to help traders actually buy and sell again.


Poll results are irrelevant tbh as 90% of the people who voted yes don't and never have played runescape so really no need for em voting ;)

Playing Runescape has nothing to do with making trades on this forum safer so the votes do count.

scottish
06-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Also even department managers scammed lol, an old HxHD manager scammed loads of habbo/runescape and was even played on the unsafe traders list. So it's not as if they're all trustoworthy and it's not as if it takes like a year to get a management job.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:49 PM
Also even department managers scammed lol, an old HxHD manager scammed loads of habbo/runescape and was even played on the unsafe traders list. So it's not as if they're all trustoworthy and it's not as if it takes like a year to get a management job.


Theres the key word. Most of the staff have changed i know alot of staff who i would trust now even if they are just moderators, But to what you said Catzsy you couldnt pick someone from the rs section as it would be exactly the situation we are in now there is hardly anyone in the rs section who i would trust and thats why imo we need someone who actually has something to lose.

IceNineKills
06-02-2010, 02:50 PM
Not like I'll ever need to use this 'Middleman', I'm not really too fussed what scammer gets appointed.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Not like I'll ever need to use this 'Middleman', I'm not really too fussed what scammer gets appointed.


Right so what does it really matter if your not going to use it..

Catzsy
06-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Theres the key word. Most of the staff have changed i know alot of staff who i would trust now even if they are just moderators, But to what you said Catzsy you couldnt pick someone from the rs section as it would be exactly the situation we are in now there is hardly anyone in the rs section who i would trust and thats why imo we need someone who actually has something to lose.

Well I can see where you are coming from in that respect but it would have to be somebody who played Runescape or Habbo to be able to be a middleman wouldn't it? I maybe wrong about this though.

scottish
06-02-2010, 02:55 PM
They are all scared to go first in the trade as they don't want to get scammed, which is why this could be a useful idea to help traders actually buy and sell again.



Playing Runescape has nothing to do with making trades on this forum safer so the votes do count.

Not really as if someone who has no intention of using either the runescape forum or the middleman service then there is no point in their vote as it'll not involve them even if it does get implemented.


Theres the key word. Most of the staff have changed i know alot of staff who i would trust now even if they are just moderators, But to what you said Catzsy you couldnt pick someone from the rs section as it would be exactly the situation we are in now there is hardly anyone in the rs section who i would trust and thats why imo we need someone who actually has something to lose.

Only thing thats changed about staff is its easier to get hired and promoted than it was before.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Well I can see where you are coming from in that respect but it would have to be somebody who played Runescape or Habbo to be able to be a middleman wouldn't it? I maybe wrong about this though.

You could have someone who doesnt play either it wouldnt really matter aslong as they are prepared to middleman and people trust them its better than what it is now.




Only thing thats changed about staff is its easier to get hired and promoted than it was before.


Id trust alot more people who are staff now than i would of a year or 2 ago

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Not really as if someone who has no intention of using either the runescape forum or the middleman service then there is no point in their vote as it'll not involve them even if it does get implemented.



Only thing thats changed about staff is its easier to get hired and promoted than it was before.

You could say that for all polls though :S

scottish
06-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Not really as polls about forum skins etc relate to everyone, things like this only relate to the people who needs to buy/sell pins so..

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 03:14 PM
Not really as polls about forum skins etc relate to everyone, things like this only relate to the people who needs to buy/sell pins so..

I don't need to buy/sell pins does that make my vote pointless?

It does involve everyone as to whether it can help people from getting scammed and making trade's easier (swear i keep repeating myself :() what if a member who does not play RS atm may start playing next week and then wants to buy a pin, effects them then?

scottish
06-02-2010, 03:17 PM
I don't need to buy/sell pins does that make my vote pointless?

It does involve everyone as to whether it can help people from getting scammed and making trade's easier (swear i keep repeating myself :() what if a member who does not play RS atm may start playing next week and then wants to buy a pin, effects them then?

Yes as you have no intention of using the service whether or not it is implemented.

If the people haven't played in the last 3-4 years i doubt they're going to start now :)

Orangeesh
06-02-2010, 03:20 PM
Yes as you have no intention of using the service whether or not it is implemented.

If the people haven't played in the last 3-4 years i doubt they're going to start now :)

but I believe that it should implemented to help traders therefore my vote counts.

They could start. :)

scottish
06-02-2010, 03:26 PM
but if the actual traders are voting no then its beside the point of what your vote is as it's getting a feature implemented that the people doing the trading don't want?

That's like runescape people doing a poll on habbo's marketplace then the 6000 people a day who go on habbo don't want it

the runescape people won't ever use it and the people who use habbo don't want it yet it'll still get implemented because the people are voting yes who have no intention of using it..

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 03:26 PM
and you have to trust the mm with your rs account? even more no lol.


what if the middleman gets bored and scams then their both down

and tbh i wouldn't trust half the mods on here anyways lol

They could easily scam once in a while and the persons unlikely to video it as they're supposed to be a safe middleman and if the member is new its his word against the mod's so..


Someone whos new to habboxforum isn't instantly going to trust a MM they never heard of or know anything about?

I sure as hell wouldn't trust most people on this forum and everyone who knows me knows i don't scam so..


Not really as if someone who has no intention of using either the runescape forum or the middleman service then there is no point in their vote as it'll not involve them even if it does get implemented.



Only thing thats changed about staff is its easier to get hired and promoted than it was before.


You sir have just contradicted yourself, you have no intention of using the service yourself so your vote does not count is pretty much what you just said..

scottish
06-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Obviously i have no intention of using the service hence why i voted no..... the 14 people who voted yes maybe 2 of them use runescape and god knows if they even have the intention of using it.

Obviously if i vote no i'm not going to want to use the service hence my voting no.....

Common sense in some people just doesn't exist does it.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 03:34 PM
Obviously i have no intention of using the service hence why i voted no..... the 14 people who voted yes maybe 2 of them use runescape and god knows if they even have the intention of using it.

Obviously if i vote no i'm not going to want to use the service hence my voting no.....

Common sense in some people just doesn't exist does it.


You just said anyone who isnt going to use it has "not a say in the matter" to put it blunt. Your not going to use it so therefore your vote doesnt count and your whole opinion doesnt count is what you basically said.. Anyway people who have voted yes every vote counts whether they play runescape or not just because they dont have an rs name in their details doesnt mean they have never or will never play.

scottish
06-02-2010, 03:38 PM
You just said anyone who isnt going to use it has "not a say in the matter" to put it blunt. Your not going to use it so therefore your vote doesnt count and your whole opinion doesnt count is what you basically said.. Anyway people who have voted yes every vote counts whether they play runescape or not just because they dont have an rs name in their details doesnt mean they have never or will never play.

I took for granted people had the intelligence i was aiming it at the members who voted yes, obviously i over estimated your intelligence.

Edited by Orangeesh (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude. Thank you.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 03:40 PM
I took for granted people had the intelligence i was aiming it at the members who voted yes, obviously i over estimated your intelligence.


It works both ways and it doesnt matter if your not personally going to use it there will be alot of people who do. There is alot of trades posted and hardly any happen because no-one will go first due to literally everyone scamming.


And theres no need to get rude is there..

Arch
06-02-2010, 03:40 PM
The point of the matter is it won't happen, and if it were too it couldnt be anyone from managment. Which leads us then to the same problem of it could be anyone from the RS section which is what we don't want. THREAD CLOSED.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 03:42 PM
The point of the matter is it won't happen, and if it were too it couldnt be anyone from managment. Which leads us then to the same problem of it could be anyone from the RS section which is what we don't want. THREAD CLOSED.


Why wont it happen.. It will help alot of people cut out alot of scamming and increase the rs section. Why couldnt it be anyone from management..

Thread is nowhere near closed until management closes it themselves unlucky :eusa_danc

[Jay]
06-02-2010, 05:36 PM
I think a trail go is needed to please both sides but I dont think it will be effective and no one is buying or selling pins anymore. This would of been a great idea back in the day but now its a waste of time.

Callum.
06-02-2010, 06:36 PM
I took for granted people had the intelligence i was aiming it at the members who voted yes, obviously i over estimated your intelligence.

Edited by Orangeesh (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude. Thank you.

lmao. you got edited for calling someone unintelligent, ouch.

there are more against arguements than for. pos just keeps repeating the same things. only two of you actually want it.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 06:42 PM
lmao. you got edited for calling someone unintelligent, ouch.

there are more against arguements than for. pos just keeps repeating the same things. only two of you actually want it.


Sorry but you have no say in it according to scottish as you dont play rs.. :rolleyes:

Arch
06-02-2010, 08:56 PM
Why wont it happen.. It will help alot of people cut out alot of scamming and increase the rs section. Why couldnt it be anyone from management..

Thread is nowhere near closed until management closes it themselves unlucky :eusa_danc

It can't be anyone from the habbox team because there will be liability issues and i don't think habbox wants to be responsible. Also by habbox making MMs and supporting the idea i believe it is agaisnt the habbo way to trade between games (although i dont play habbo so this could be wrong) therefore they could potential be taken off the offical fansite list? (this might be wrong but it kinda makes sence).

Also it won't increase the RS section at all get over yourself by increasing trades you think its going to become full of life again not at all. Everyone has quit and only a few still play by adding an MM its not going to make this section any better tbh.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 08:59 PM
It can't be anyone from the habbox team because there will be liability issues and i don't think habbox wants to be responsible. Also by habbox making MMs and supporting the idea i believe it is agaisnt the habbo way to trade between games (although i dont play habbo so this could be wrong) therefore they could potential be taken off the offical fansite list? (this might be wrong but it kinda makes sence).

Also it won't increase the RS section at all get over yourself by increasing trades you think its going to become full of life again not at all. Everyone has quit and only a few still play by adding an MM its not going to make this section any better tbh.


Its not against the habbo way to trade games otherwise they would never have allowed trading rs for hab at all. If a mm was introduced and it went succesfull then course it would drag people from habbo in im not on about relighting the people who used to play fires, but actually bringing new people in to trade aswell.

scottish
06-02-2010, 09:14 PM
Its not against the habbo way to trade games otherwise they would never have allowed trading rs for hab at all. If a mm was introduced and it went succesfull then course it would drag people from habbo in im not on about relighting the people who used to play fires, but actually bringing new people in to trade aswell.

Yes it is lol, it's always been against the way to sell habbox's virtual items for cash and items from another site (its also against runescape rules to trade rs items/pins for others, as i'm sure runescape requires you to check a box saying it was yourself or a family member who bought you the pin this could be removed though as i haven't entered pin in years)

Soy
06-02-2010, 09:28 PM
Wow 12 pages..

all you need is a yes or no

I use OMM's on my site and reccommend doing it here..

Arch
06-02-2010, 09:29 PM
Exactly, so therefore this won't be put into action.

^ That was directed towards scottish's comment.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 09:30 PM
Exactly, so therefore this won't be put into action.

^ That was directed towards scottish's comment.

If thats the case they would have to stop all pin trades all rs cash for hab all international hotel trades and donater for hab trades..

Arch
06-02-2010, 09:36 PM
Yes but by allowing someone from the Habbox team be the MM they support it don't they and im pretty sure Catzsy already said basically this a some posts ago.

Stryderman
06-02-2010, 09:48 PM
Yes but by allowing someone from the Habbox team be the MM they support it don't they and im pretty sure Catzsy already said basically this a some posts ago.


Yeh but then by also allowing it on their site they are supporting it as they are not doing anything to prevent it, Thats why i thought it was allowed as acc trading is not [as thats against habbo way] and that would mean if this is not allowed nothing else would be.

[Jay]
06-02-2010, 10:28 PM
I did not think of it that way to be honest, however I have to agree with Pos in this one as long as the MM is a user and not staff then there should not be a problem. However if it is a a member of staff then that could be a problem.

Hecktix
07-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Perhaps we could work out some sort of democratic system to elect a middleman?

Orangeesh
07-02-2010, 02:30 PM
;6286640']I did not think of it that way to be honest, however I have to agree with Pos in this one as long as the MM is a user and not staff then there should not be a problem. However if it is a a member of staff then that could be a problem.

A normal member has nothing to lose at all so the chance's of them scamming is alot higher than if a staff member was elected. At least they have something to lose, and using a staff member who is a super moderator or admin would be best as I very much doubt they would scam anyone.

Stryderman
07-02-2010, 03:43 PM
Yeh you couldnt use a normal user & if you did who would you choose?

Then youd have people whining over im safer than them let me be mm etc etc

Callum.
07-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Perhaps we could work out some sort of democratic system to elect a middleman?

worst idea ever. it has to be staff to work, look at the section at the moment, no body has actually traded for months/years for most people active so no one is amazingly trusted. it'd have to be staff for it to even remotely work. but then you probably can't hire someone/use existing staff because you're encouraging others to break the rules.

before we had just been left on our own. if we got scammed theres nothing you could do but warn people.


A normal member has nothing to lose at all so the chance's of them scamming is alot higher than if a staff member was elected. At least they have something to lose, and using a staff member who is a super moderator or admin would be best as I very much doubt they would scam anyone.

but staff can probably not be the MM as a few have said above.

Stryderman
07-02-2010, 05:06 PM
worst idea ever. it has to be staff to work, look at the section at the moment, no body has actually traded for months/years for most people active so no one is amazingly trusted. it'd have to be staff for it to even remotely work. but then you probably can't hire someone/use existing staff because you're encouraging others to break the rules.

before we had just been left on our own. if we got scammed theres nothing you could do but warn people.


Except everytime you "warn" people you get infracted for saying they scam so your back to square 1

Arch
07-02-2010, 05:22 PM
Except everytime you "warn" people you get infracted for saying they scam so your back to square 1

Not rly just be sneaky about it and say 'I'd be lying if i said ______ was trusted'


Perhaps we could work out some sort of democratic system to elect a middleman?

That could work although if it wasn't a member of staff it would have to be someone very trusted and i don't think anyone would want to waste their time if they aren't staff because it isn't rly their duty.

scottish
07-02-2010, 05:25 PM
thats why trading is at your own risk

if habbox has any involvement then if anyone gets scammed it's habbox's fault not the members in question.

[Jay]
07-02-2010, 08:09 PM
I have given it some time to see what members said before I voted and those arguing against have made better arguments and I will be voting for No. However if it does go ahead I hope it will work as this would be beneficial for the newer members.

Thomas
07-02-2010, 08:37 PM
i like the idea. although would it be hassle? finding a mod to be the middle man then that person would need to be 100% trusted and they would need a habbo and rs and paypal acc so they can do trade via money habbo and rs?

Just seems like a lot to go though

Arch
07-02-2010, 08:57 PM
Yeah it honestly does have potential but there is far too many things that would be needed and eventually people would stop wanting to MM because it would take up a good amount of time.

Stryderman
07-02-2010, 09:03 PM
i like the idea. although would it be hassle? finding a mod to be the middle man then that person would need to be 100% trusted and they would need a habbo and rs and paypal acc so they can do trade via money habbo and rs?

Just seems like a lot to go though

You wouldn't need PP to be a MM.

Arch
07-02-2010, 09:51 PM
what if someone wanted to pay with real money for a pin ?

Stryderman
07-02-2010, 09:54 PM
what if someone wanted to pay with real money for a pin ?


They buy their own pin then :rolleyes:

Why would someone buy a pin for 6£ then go and sell it for 5£ - PP charges

Hecktix
07-02-2010, 11:11 PM
Taking the poll results into account, this shall be discussed by management and we'll get back to you :)

If anybody is interested in being such 'Middleman', let me know.

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