Habbox managment

[Richie]

Sup,
in all fairness, why is some management still staff, fair douz if there away but for months? might aswell just resign, I'm assuming the reason why I can't see when the last time nvrspk4 was active is bcos he hasnt been on in months and if he has he hasnt done anything. Y doesn't he just resign nd make sammeth. offical gm rather than have him acting gm. I'm confused cos didn't bomb-head nd catzy get fired for being inactive?

[Mathew]

I agree, just give Sammeth. and MattGarner the positions rather than have them acting so much.. :)

[GommeInc]

Would make more sense to just resign him to the history books. It's not like a normal job where you get sick leave and someone stands in, it's internet based and if you're sick you're closer to the internet than usual. If he's busy, that's probably more reason. Give someone who is committed the duties :)

[Barmi]

In before the thread gets closed.

I totally agree, and I think most people do too. Keeping a position open for someone in this way is completely unnecessary. I don't know the guy, but perhaps he could be considered in the future if he's ever active again. In the meantime, management should be realistic enough to realise that he needs to go.

[Richie]

In before the thread gets closed.

I totally agree, and I think most people do too. Keeping a position open for someone in this way is completely unnecessary. I don't know the guy, but perhaps he could be considered in the future if he's ever active again.

I dnt think they can rlly close it, its an opinion and they would be at fault if they did choose to close it.

[Barmi]

I dnt think they can rlly close it, its an opinion and they would be at fault if they did choose to close it.
Some contrived reason along the lines of "it's getting too personal".

[Inseriousity.]

Agreed.

In a way, it's kind of happened anyway but it needs to be done officially!

[Titch]

Jin stated the other day on habbo nvrs would not return so make it offical?

[Orangeesh]

his last post was on 24/01/10 so Im a bit confused, how is that 'months'? =s

[Richie]

his last post was on 24/01/10 so Im a bit confused, how is that 'months'? =s

I mean in the sense of doing something for his role. Lets be honest he hasn't done anything for habbox in a long time, well from what I can see.

[Orangeesh]

I mean in the sense of doing something for his role.

isn't that why mattgarner is 'acting' for him for a bit? :S Im sure he will be back soon enough? I could be completely wrong though.

[Sammeth.]

I think its just a matter of making a few announcements, the only thing thats needs changing are usertitles, its not as if its making a huge impact as we're all still doing the jobs. You won't see much of a differnece after its "official".

[Richie]

isn't that why mattgarner is 'acting' for him for a bit? :S Im sure he will be back soon enough? I could be completely wrong though.


But why bother? at habboxlive if your going to be away for more than one month you are asked to resign and considering he has a bigger role, surely that's a bit hypocritical.




I think its just a matter of making a few announcements, the only thing thats needs changing are usertitles, its not as if its making a huge impact as we're all still doing the jobs. You won't see much of a differnece after its "official".
yh ino it just makes habbox seem out of date tho.

[Barmi]

Can the changes be done now, or is there a month-long approval process? Delaying the inevitable screams of pointless.

[Orangeesh]

But why bother? at habboxlive if your going to be away for more than one month you are asked to resign and considering he has a bigger role, surely that's a bit hypocritical.




yh ino it just makes habbox seem out of date tho.

Yeh, I agree with you... I mean if he knew that he was going to be away for so long then really he should of resigned, and he could of always returned at some point after.

[luce]

yeah to be honest when he went away everyone always wondered if he was coming back. He is meant to be back now at the end of jan and he's not?

I'm going to say i prefer sam as Gm because he's more active and gives new time and ideas :D So yeah i would put money on matt and sam having the jobs..

If matt wasn't sure he would get the job would he have left moderation??

[today]

i miss nvr ):

[Dinosaurawrr]

i completly agree.
matt and sam should just get the jobs.
never has been away long enough he was even on habbo he spoke 2 me on there a while ago while he was away O_o

[Catzsy]

I was actually ill during this period and did inform Nvrspk4 however I did not expect to be staff after such a long period. As far as I know Nvrspk4 did inform that he would be on extended leave for his exams which is no different to ---MAD--- being away for an extended period during his.

[brandon]

I really hope nvrspk4 comes back soon, he's been staff here for so long I'd hate to see him lose his position.

[today]

where is he btw?

[FlyingJesus]

New York

[Sammeth.]

New York
Well, more likely New Jersey.

[FlyingJesus]

Wherever he is it's newer than most of the residents in my town

[today]

ys he there

[Black_Apalachi]

He lives there.

Doesn't make a difference but I'll agree for the hell of it because if I hadn't resigned when I was inactive I would still have been Ass't. News Manager or even Manager! :O

[Nixt]

Nvr has put a lot of time and effort into Habbox, I am sure we will see the best decision for everybody made in the near future :).

[Hecktix]

I'm sure Jin and Nvr have discussed this.

I don't feel it would be right to fire someone who has been as influential to Habbox as nvrspk4 though.

[The Professor]

I'm sure Jin and Nvr have discussed this.

I don't feel it would be right to fire someone who has been as influential to Habbox as nvrspk4 though.

Extended leave = position in habbox that could be taken up by someone who can actually do something. The way everything went to pot when Catzsy was away for so long was pretty shameful and it was the same with nvr before sam was put into place. Get rid of them, by all means let them come back if and when they have the time but there's no point wasting the position.

[Immenseman]

I think a lot of you (bar oli) forget nvrspk4 has done more for this site than anybody else. He's put the most hours in and he should be able to have this role open for him until he decides. It's not like Habbox is struggling without him. Nothing will change if Sammeth. is made the permanent GM because he basically is anyway ~ as far as I'm aware he makes changes without consulting Nvr anyway and rightly so. I believe it's fine as it is. You just can not fire nvrspk4, it's as ludicrous as firing the Queen because she doesn't do anything! :P

[Barmi]

I think a lot of you (bar oli) forget nvrspk4 has done more for this site than anybody else. He's put the most hours in and he should be able to have this role open for him until he decides. It's not like Habbox is struggling without him. Nothing will change if Sammeth. is made the permanent GM because he basically is anyway ~ as far as I'm aware he makes changes without consulting Nvr anyway and rightly so. I believe it's fine as it is. You just can not fire nvrspk4, it's as ludicrous as firing the Queen because she doesn't do anything! :P
That's a ridiculous analogy for the simple reason the Queen actually does do something.

If Habbox love him so much, give him an honorary "we love nvrspk4" role.

[today]

didnt that old guy have one 8freak8 and another one before him? propersummit.

[Seatherny]

didnt that old guy have one 8freak8 and another one before him? propersummit.

properclone

[Immenseman]

Hence the exclamation mark and ':P' face, I thought it was pretty obvious it wasn't a genuine comparison :rolleyes: I did originally put an even worse analogy. Also, if people realised that he'd done more for fansites than any other individual on the whole of Habbo then this thread wouldn't have been made and supported by those who don't regularly use Habbox or haven't been signed up for many years.

That's not even mentioning the fact it will make absolutely no difference to the running of Habbox. It's still the biggest fansite and will be for a while ~ it's hardly going to stop functioning because one person is pondering their role.

[today]

properclone
Cheers, i guess.

[-Xiangu-]

Hence the exclamation mark and ':P' face, I thought it was pretty obvious it wasn't a genuine comparison :rolleyes: I did originally put an even worse analogy. Also, if people realised that he'd done more for fansites than any other individual on the whole of Habbo then this thread wouldn't have been made and supported by those who don't regularly use Habbox or haven't been signed up for many years.

That's not even mentioning the fact it will make absolutely no difference to the running of Habbox. It's still the biggest fansite and will be for a while ~ it's hardly going to stop functioning because one person is pondering their role.

Pondering their role? surely if they need to ponder such a high position they don't have the dedication needed to carry on. I've been here a fair while and nvr did do alot in the past, but this is just my opinion but he seemed to get a bit snotty in after being in his position for such a while and tbh, having new people circulating the higher positions every few years is what made habbox a fresh environment to be in. But thats probably just me. x

[Immenseman]

Yeah, I know what you mean and I'm not a fan of his or his 'reign' as GM but I don't think you can just remove his permissions and make a "nvrspk4 is no longer habbox staff" thread. It's just not right. I don't really get it either. We have a new GM - why are people so desperate to see him removed?

[Seatherny]

Removing his permissions wont harm anyone. He isnt doing anything at the moment. Sammeth is.

He will still have Staff permissions like most (if not all) ex-GM's.

[Immenseman]

I think that's basically what he has anyway. Pretty sure Jin has said he won't be returning to full capacity.

[-Xiangu-]

Yeah, I know what you mean and I'm not a fan of his or his 'reign' as GM but I don't think you can just remove his permissions and make a "nvrspk4 is no longer habbox staff" thread. It's just not right. I don't really get it either. We have a new GM - why are people so desperate to see him removed?

Well that would be harsh but i doubt it would have that wording. The way I see it is that hes staff and hes been absent and like any other staff should have permissions removed and treated like anyone else.

[GommeInc]

If he's not the General Manager, he is not the General Manager. It's amazing how something so trivial and obvious has sparked so much discussion. Yes, he has done a lot for Habbox, but just like 8Freak8 who was kept as a member of management, should be removed eventually because he too played no major roles and had no roles to do with the community anymore. He's not coming back to full capacity (whatever that means) so why keep him as a "General Manager / On Extended Leave / Contact Sammeth - Acting GM"? It looks tacky and isn't useful :/

[Nemo]

Hence the exclamation mark and ':P' face, I thought it was pretty obvious it wasn't a genuine comparison :rolleyes: I did originally put an even worse analogy. Also, if people realised that he'd done more for fansites than any other individual on the whole of Habbo then this thread wouldn't have been made and supported by those who don't regularly use Habbox or haven't been signed up for many years.

That's not even mentioning the fact it will make absolutely no difference to the running of Habbox. It's still the biggest fansite and will be for a while ~ it's hardly going to stop functioning because one person is pondering their role.
Ive been here for many years and have posted a lot and heres my view.

I dont like nvrspk, he might have done a lot but so have many people. I expect him to have done a lot if you are taking up such a large role. And as far as there will be absolutely no difference, well there might not be, but its also about proffessionalism. I dont think having a top staff member being inactive for ages looks brilliant.

[Immenseman]

I don't know how it looks tacky. It's not useful either way. It's making change for the sake of it and when he is who he is - it should remain. Just my two cents. If Jin takes the decision to remove him then I'm fully behind that too. I'm not concerned I just don't see how it benefits Hx when we already have a new GM who is doing well anyway.

[GommeInc]

You answered it yourself, we have a new GM. Why do we need someone listed as one when he isn't one? If he doesn't get in contact sooner, or does anything useful, get rid of him :/

[today]

Ive been here for many years and have posted a lot and heres my view.

I dont like nvrspk, he might have done a lot but so have many people. I expect him to have done a lot if you are taking up such a large role. And as far as there will be absolutely no difference, well there might not be, but its also about proffessionalism. I dont think having a top staff member being inactive for ages looks brilliant.
Habbox has never been as proffessional as it could be.

[Catzsy]

You answered it yourself, we have a new GM. Why do we need someone listed as one when he isn't one? If he doesn't get in contact sooner, or does anything useful, get rid of him :/

I think he would be very hurt to read your post, Gomme. He was one of the, longest serving, reliable, most dedicated and hardworking members of staff ever and it's not as if he is absent without leave so to speak. I am sure Jin and Sierk will make a decision when they feel the time is right. Meanwhile the only difference is the word 'acting'. Sam has all the powers he needs to do the job.

[Seatherny]

I think he would be very hurt to read your post, Gomme. He was one of the, longest serving, reliable, most dedicated and hardworking members of staff ever and it's not as if he is absent without leave so to speak. I am sure Jin and Sierk will make a decision when they feel the time is right. Meanwhile the only difference is the word 'acting'. Sam has all the powers he needs to do the job.

If they are sure he isn't going to be back, then whats the point. Anyone actually know why he isn't here?
Sam is pretty much GM
Matt is pretty much AGM hence he resigned as FM

Might as well make it official.

[-Xiangu-]

I think he would be very hurt to read your post, Gomme. He was one of the, longest serving, reliable, most dedicated and hardworking members of staff ever and it's not as if he is absent without leave so to speak. I am sure Jin and Sierk will make a decision when they feel the time is right. Meanwhile the only difference is the word 'acting'. Sam has all the powers he needs to do the job.

Your right he has done alot but so have many other people. 8freak8 didn't get much recognition for what he had done and he just dwindled till he was finally removed of permisions. The same will happen to nvr so surely it's best to make a big thing of him leaving (as he was so great apparently) rather than "letting the candle burn out"

[Immenseman]

They aren't 'pretty much' - they are. Let nvrspk4 make his own decision when the time is right. Hx is doing just fine.

[Blob]

Give nvr AGM, give Sam GM and then let nvr take back the role of GM and Sam have the role of AGM again when he returns fully.

[Seatherny]

They aren't 'pretty much' - they are. Let nvrspk4 make his own decision when the time is right. Hx is doing just fine.

Its been months.


Give nvr AGM, give Sam GM and then let nvr take back the role of GM and Sam have the role of AGM again when he returns fully.

I think once you give someone GM, its unfair to demote them just because the other person wants it back after so many months. Its better to just show him as resgined.

[Titch]

Give nvr AGM, give Sam GM and then let nvr take back the role of GM and Sam have the role of AGM again when he returns fully.

bit harsh on sam getting de-moted and what happens to matt in all this?

[today]

Have them both as GM's for cryin out loud.

[Catzsy]

They aren't 'pretty much' - they are. Let nvrspk4 make his own decision when the time is right. Hx is doing just fine.

Agree. It's not up to is in the end. It's a matter for Jin, Sierk and Nvr. It's not as if nobody is in post.

[Seatherny]

bit harsh on sam getting de-moted and what happens to matt in all this?

nvrspk4 goes i want GM back
Sam gets demoted
Matt gets demoted
Garion gets demoted
Oli gets demoted

[Titch]

nvrspk4 goes i want GM back
Sam gets demoted
Matt gets demoted
Garion gets demoted
Oli gets demoted

now everyone hates nvrs, he quits,m everyone gets their roles back, cool

[GommeInc]

I think he would be very hurt to read your post, Gomme. He was one of the, longest serving, reliable, most dedicated and hardworking members of staff ever and it's not as if he is absent without leave so to speak. I am sure Jin and Sierk will make a decision when they feel the time is right. Meanwhile the only difference is the word 'acting'. Sam has all the powers he needs to do the job.
Blunt and to the point dear, I'm good at that :P I like nvr, he's been one of the most useful GMs who didn't go power mad or make a sort of government where a hierarchy appears and with all that power decided he might as well take the blame and do everything. He had a sense of community of him, which is good. But seeing as he is no longer acting GM, it seems it would be worthwhile to just remove him, seeing as Jin apparently says he won't be back in the same way (someone mentioned it, so not sure whether this is true or not). If he's not coming back, put Ex-GM until they find a better usertitle for him. It's better than making him out as a GM on leave when he doesn't appaear to be GM anymore.

[xxMATTGxx]

nvrspk4 goes i want GM back
Sam gets demoted
Matt gets demoted
Garion gets demoted
Oli gets demoted

I think I wouldn't have a job if that happened. :P

[Catzsy]

Blunt and to the point dear, I'm good at that :P I like nvr, he's been one of the most useful GMs who didn't go power mad or make a sort of government where a hierarchy appears and with all that power decided he might as well take the blame and do everything. He had a sense of community of him, which is good. But seeing as he is no longer acting GM, it seems it would be worthwhile to just remove him, seeing as Jin apparently says he won't be back in the same way (someone mentioned it, so not sure whether this is true or not). If he's not coming back, put Ex-GM until they find a better usertitle for him. It's better than making him out as a GM on leave when he doesn't appaear to be GM anymore.

Agree if he is definitely not coming back I agree something like Ex-gm or Former-GM would be very suitable. Also if he is not it would be nice at least to pay tributes to him.

[GommeInc]

Agree if he is definitely not coming back I agree something like Ex-gm or Former-GM would be very suitable. Also if he is not it would be nice at least to pay tributes to him.
Only temp though, for when and if he is still active, but not active enough to do any major duties. Keeping it as a title for the long-term isn't wise, it would be like when 8Freak8 had a title for no reason :P

[Sammeth.]

I cant beleive something so trivial brought up this debate! I didn't really think it mattered that much :P I love nvr a lot, he is a great friend to me and pretty much taught me everything I know (cus hes hot). We'll wait for his word, we'll wait till the time is right, and then we'll do whatever we have to do. I don't really see this thread going in any other direction Ill be honest.

[Catzsy]

I cant beleive something so trivial brought up this debate! I didn't really think it mattered that much :P I love nvr a lot, he is a great friend to me and pretty much taught me everything I know (cus hes hot). We'll wait for his word, we'll wait till the time is right, and then we'll do whatever we have to do. I don't really see this thread going in any other direction Ill be honest.

Wise words, indeed.

[Barmi]

"We'll wait . . . we'll wait"? I thought that's Habbox's mantra anyway.

[Catzsy]

"We'll wait . . . we'll wait"? I thought that's Habbox's mantra anyway.

And what's the worst that can happen? Is there any positive benefits to rushing into a decision?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Blunt and to the point dear, I'm good at that :P I like nvr, he's been one of the most useful GMs who didn't go power mad or make a sort of government where a hierarchy appears and with all that power decided he might as well take the blame and do everything. He had a sense of community of him, which is good. But seeing as he is no longer acting GM, it seems it would be worthwhile to just remove him, seeing as Jin apparently says he won't be back in the same way (someone mentioned it, so not sure whether this is true or not). If he's not coming back, put Ex-GM until they find a better usertitle for him. It's better than making him out as a GM on leave when he doesn't appaear to be GM anymore.

I couldn't agree more, its a shame hes leaving after so many years and I wish him all the best.

[Charlottay!]

dont no if anybody has noticed but even on habbox.com its says its run by sammeth.


Welcome to Habbox, a dedicated, official gold tier Habbo UK fansite! Habbox is owned by sierk and :Jin:, whilst run by Sammeth.

[FlyingJesus]

Nothing will change if Jin is made the permanent GM because he basically is anyway ~ as far as I'm aware he makes changes without consulting Nvr anyway


Removing his permissions wont harm anyone. He isnt doing anything at the moment. Jin is.


Meanwhile the only difference is the word 'acting'. Jin has all the powers he needs to do the job.


Jin is pretty much GM

Fixed


"We'll wait . . . we'll wait"? I thought that's Habbox's mantra anyway.

Only the comps department as far as I'm aware. Nah that's not fair, theirs is more "you wait... you wait"

[Black_Apalachi]

Even though my early post sounded like I was in agreement with the OP, I think it was apparent I wasn't serious and I must say it's a bit gruesome to see how everybody is being so anal about this. He announced he was going to be away for some time and made the necessary adjustments to the managerial hierarchy in order to fill the gap. As has been said, he has done so much for Habbox that it would be utterly disgraceful to just drop him because he hasn't been around for a while. If you all cared so much you would have realised that he has been making occasional visits which I imagine he uses to check up on things and make sure everything is going well.

I could somewhat understand when this topic was raised about Catzsy because it seemed that nobody knew what was going on and it was a long time before things were altered to fill her position. As it turns out, she had informed nvrspk4 about the situation so I'm not sure why we were left in the dark, but that's irrelevant and I'm only using Catzsy as she is the most recent example relative to this. My point is that even when a slightly lower ranking person was apparently absent without leave, it was months before anybody said anything and got the issue sorted out. However nvr hasn't been away for any way near as long AND it's not like we don't know what's going on. Whatever is done in regards to him will make no difference to anybody other than put a smile on a few little petty people's faces.