how do these specs sound

[Swinkid]

How do these specs sound?:



* Case: Xion Vulcan Steel Gaming Mid-Tower Case with Side Window (Black Color)
* Lights & Illumination: NONE
* Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default Case Fan
* Internal Expansion: NONE
* Power Supply Upgrade: 650 Watts Power Supplies (Seasonic X-650 650Watt Modular with 90% Efficiency Gaming Power Supply ***CustomPC Award Winning PSU, issue 078***)
* CPU: (Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2.5GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 ***Overclockable S&S*** Cache 64-bit
* Overclocking Service: No Overclocking
* Cooling Fan: INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
* Motherboard: Asus P5KPL-AM Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1066(OC)/667/800 DDR2 Mainboard
* Memory: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)4GB (2x2GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066Mhz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Dominator ***Overclockable XXX***)
* Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 1GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Power by NVIDIA) More Brand...
* Video Card 2: None, or On-Board Integrated Graphics
* Video Card 3: None, or On-Board Integrated Graphics
* Dedicated PhysX Card: None
* Monitor & LCD: NONE
* 2nd Monitor: NONE
* 3rd Monitor: NONE
* Hard Drive: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
* Data Hard Drive: NONE
* Hard Drive Cooler: None
* Optical Drive: Sony Optiarc 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (Black Color)
* Optical Drive 2: NONE
* Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
* Speakers: NONE
* Network: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
* MODEM: NONE
* Keyboard: NONE
* Mouse: NONE
* Extra Thermal Display : NONE
* Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE
* Wireless 802.11B/G Access Point: NONE
* Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
* Cable Wiring: None
* Cables: None
* Video Camera: NONE
* Power Surge Protection: None
* IEEE Card: NONE
* USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
* USB Portable Drive: NONE
* Floppy: NONE
* Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Professional (64-bit Edition)
* Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon: None
* Media Center Remote & TV Tuner: NONE
* RUSH SERVICE: NONE
* WARRANTY SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
* HOME INSTALLATION SERVICE: NONE

[AgnesIO]

Depends. How much is it gonna cost and what will you use it for? :)

[Swinkid]

Depends. How much is it gonna cost and what will you use it for? :)

Gaming, but only things like WoW and TF2 etc.. and i think it added up to around £500-£600?

i might cahnge the color of the case illumination, its not illuminated atm.

[Soy]

sounds good, bit energy hungry but will run well

[N!ck]

Yes. But the power supply is epic overkill.

Also the price sounds a little high to me but I've not priced things up individually.

[Richie]

im not sure I can't hear anything

Edited by Jamesy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly, thanks.

[Jordy]

Yeah it does seem a little pricey and just thought I'd point out 320GBs is rather small these days, doesn't take many TV Shows and films to fill that up.

[The Professor]

Jordy are all your tv shows in HD or something? I have tons on my PC and the episodes are only like 100mb each, could easily fit a massive amount of shows on it!

[Tomm]

My movie collection is nearly 700GB. They are 1080p though :P


Jordy are all your tv shows in HD or something? I have tons on my PC and the episodes are only like 100mb each, could easily fit a massive amount of shows on it!

[N!ck]

My movie collection is nearly 700GB. They are 1080p though :P

96GB of 720p, 189GB of 480p (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD rips) and another 189GB of lower quality films (mostly 700MB per film, DVD rips).

251GB of TV shows though :P. None of that is even HD.

[Tomm]

1080p is win. Once you're used to watching it anything below it looks rubbish ;D


96GB of 720p, 189GB of 480p (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD rips) and another 189GB of lower quality films (mostly 700MB per film, DVD rips).

251GB of TV shows though :P. None of that is even HD.

[The Professor]

Wow :P I don't have a HD monitor so I don't bother with HD stuffs, download times are massive too :(

Edit: Yeah tom I know the feeling, when I got my ps3 for christmas I plugged it into the TV downstairs and it looked gorjuss even though the games are only like 720p, now I have it plugged into my 4:3 TV upstairs which has like the worlds lowest resolution makes me cry :(

[N!ck]

1080p is win. Once you're used to watching it anything below it looks rubbish ;D

My TV is 1366x768 so no point ;). Also since my TV is 32" I have calculated that in a best case scenario the human eye (perfect vision) can not physically see detail greater than 720p from a distance of just under 2m and further (god, what has my uni course done to me?). Since I watch from around 2 metres away all is good :).

What size is your projector screen? I fancy doing some maths.

[The Professor]

My TV is 1366x768 so no point ;). Also since my TV is 32" I have calculated that in a best case scenario the human eye (perfect vision) can not physically see detail greater than 720p from a distance of just under 2m and further (god, what has my uni course done to me?). Since I watch from around 2 metres away all is good :).

What size is your screen? I fancy doing some maths.

Lol Nick that's great :P Assume my TV has a resolution of 480p (its there or there abouts, whatever the 4:3 equivalent is) and I'm watching it from 6 feet away... idk what my question is I just find this stuff interesting :D Do something with those numbers lmao

[Tomm]

110" with an approx 8-9ft distance from screen.

And I've done the maths and it concludes that I'd benefit from a even higher resolution :P

Rather than post my spreadsheet I found i'll just use this graph:

http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png


My TV is 1366x768 so no point ;). Also since my TV is 32" I have calculated that in a best case scenario the human eye (perfect vision) can not physically see detail greater than 720p from a distance of just under 2m and further (god, what has my uni course done to me?). Since I watch from around 2 metres away all is good :).

What size is your projector screen? I fancy doing some maths.

[N!ck]

What I calculated seems to follow that chart reasonably well.

For your 110" I calculated that from around 6.54m and further you will see no benefit from anything better than 720p. 4.36m and further back was the number I got for 1080p.

Now let's consider your case. 9' is around 2.75m. At 2.75m on a 110" screen I calculate that you will not physically be able to see any detail greater than 1712p (not that that exists or yout projector does that res :P).

[Tomm]

I used the info & spreadsheet you can find at:

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter
http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator

Which calculates the stuff based on Visual Acuity (Which you can input, if you know it, based on your eyesight else it just uses the "standard" 20/20), Maximum and Recommended THX viewing distances, the Maximum SMPTE recommended viewing distance and peripheral vision field of view.


What I calculated seems to follow that chart reasonably well.

For your 110" I calculated that from around 6.54m and further you will see no benefit from anything better than 720p. 4.36m and further back was the number I got for 1080p.

Now let's consider your case. 9' is around 2.75m. At 2.75m on a 110" screen I calculate that you will not physically be able to see any detail greater than 1712p (not that that exists or yout projector does that res :P).

[N!ck]

I used the info & spreadsheet you can find at:

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter
http://carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator

Which calculates the stuff based on Visual Acuity (Which you can input, if you know it, based on your eyesight else it just uses the "standard" 20/20), Maximum and Recommended THX viewing distances, the Maximum SMPTE recommended viewing distance and peripheral vision field of view.

And I used physics of the way light works and the size of the receptors on the retina in the eyeball ;). Assuming your eye works perfectly and I don't need to correct for imperfect vision. I'm not an optometrist :P.

[Swinkid]

Meh, i put that PS in because i want to Overclock, and the deafult PSU that comes with it (Its a custom packadge im putting tgether) comes with one tht u cant really Overclock. I might even relace the PSu with an extream version.

Anyways,

if you can, try beat that price with somit with better specs, I dont really need a flashy case, its for gaming with TF2 and WoW, max £600-£700 Because when my Pay check comes in ill be able to aford quite abit..

And the HDD - Im going to whipe my current one and use two HDD's, One for data / Media / Films and one for games atc.. I might even buy a second HDD for 1080p Films.
Swinkid

[The Professor]

Wow if its for TF2 gaming its a bit overkill :P But nice nonetheless :)

[Swinkid]

Wow if its for TF2 gaming its a bit overkill :P But nice nonetheless :)


Ye but then i have room for better games if need them too, the games i play change daily. :P

[N!ck]

Meh, i put that PS in because i want to Overclock, and the deafult PSU that comes with it (Its a custom packadge im putting tgether) comes with one tht u cant really Overclock. I might even relace the PSu with an extream version.

Anyways,

if you can, try beat that price with somit with better specs, I dont really need a flashy case, its for gaming with TF2 and WoW, max £600-£700 Because when my Pay check comes in ill be able to aford quite abit..

And the HDD - Im going to whipe my current one and use two HDD's, One for data / Media / Films and one for games atc.. I might even buy a second HDD for 1080p Films.
Swinkid

You comfortable with custom building? And I assume you don't need a monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers/printer with that budget?

[Swinkid]

You comfortable with custom building? And I assume you don't need a monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers/printer with that budget?

Nope, Dont need any Monitors, Keyboards, Mouse, Speakers or printers in that budget.

And yes im confortable with building, I used to do it alot repairing friends computer's

[N!ck]

Add an aftermarket cooler as well for the CPU so you can overclock. I don't know which.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9338/17296480.png

[Swinkid]

Add an aftermarket cooler as well for the CPU so you can overclock. I don't know which.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9338/17296480.png
Might change that GFX Card cus id rather stick with Nvidia

[N!ck]

Might change that GFX Card cus id rather stick with Nvidia

Better bang for buck with ATi at the moment ;).

[Swinkid]

Better bang for buck with ATi at the moment ;).

What ATI card do you reccomend, And how much? And if i was going to go with Nvidia, what card would you reccomend and how much?

[N!ck]

The card I posted is what I recommend. The next up is the 5850 which is like £100 more than the 5770 so out of budget. I have a 5770 myself and it's pretty good.

As far as nVidia goes the GTS250 (same card in your original post) is probably closest to the 5770 price wise at around £100-120 for the 1GB, but the 5770 wins pretty easy especially at higher resolutions from what I can tell.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality-update-3/compare,1697.html?prod[3253]=on&prod[3210]=on

[Swinkid]

The card I posted is what I recommend. The next up is the 5850 which is like £100 more than the 5770 so out of budget. I have a 5770 myself and it's pretty good.

As far as nVidia goes the GTS250 (same card in your original post) is probably closest to the 5770 price wise at around £100-120 for the 1GB, but the 5770 wins pretty easy especially at higher resolutions from what I can tell.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality-update-3/compare,1697.html?prod[3253]=on&prod[3210]=on

I've never really experienced any other brand that nvidea and ATi, However, I may choose Asus for now.. :) Thanks.

Also, Would you think what you chose is better than what i said? Because, if it is i may got buy windows 7 and go over my budget.

Alex

[N!ck]

I've never really experienced any other brand that nvidea and ATi, However, I may choose Asus for now.. :) Thanks.

Also, Would you think what you chose is better than what i said? Because, if it is i may got buy windows 7 and go over my budget.

Alex

It is an ATi card made by ASUS ;).

[Swinkid]

It is an ATi card made by ASUS ;).

Fair Enough, Think this would run better than what i first said? I might go over budget and get Win 7 if so.

[N!ck]

Fair Enough, Think this would run better than what i first said? I might go over budget and get Win 7 if so.

Definately.
It has a much more powerful, more energy efficient and more overclockable CPU.
Faster DDR3 RAM.
A more powerful graphics card.
A larger, and also faster hard drive.