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ToxicPaddy
19-02-2010, 01:43 AM
Would it be a bad decision if I decided to leave education for good at 16, and went straight into employment? I am in year 11, and just want to leave and get a job. I have sent in several job applications for places in the town, some have said no, and some have said if they'll keep my application on file for 6 months. I am doing around 9 GCSE's and I'm predicted mainly A's and B's for most of them. Any advice is appreciated :D
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Metric1
19-02-2010, 01:48 AM
Would it be a bad decision if I decided to leave education for good at 16, and went straight into employment? I am in year 11, and just want to leave and get a job. I have sent in several job applications for places in the town, some have said no, and some have said if they'll keep my application on file for 6 months. I am doing around 9 GCSE's and I'm predicted mainly A's and B's for most of them. Any advice is appreciated :D
You can do a whole lot more with a full education than you can with a grade 11. Stay in school.
dirrty
19-02-2010, 02:08 AM
you should think of a long-term plan before quitting education imo. decide what you truly wish to do when your older, and determine whether staying in education would achieve that goal, or whether getting a job somewhere can. i'd personally stick it out and then find a job after getting as many qualifications as you can really (if you don't wanna go uni). and tbh, the more qualifications the better considering the job market, people losing jobs etc.
you'll be a more valuable asset to an industry in the future with the appropriate qualifications. having GCSE's now-a-days is absolutely worth nothing imo compared with what you could get.
Stryderman
19-02-2010, 02:58 AM
If you mean dropping out before you get your grades no.
But staying to 6 form an college is stupid imo, The only reason people do it is either cos they wanna become a doctor or something along them lines or they want to make friends.
dirrty
19-02-2010, 03:05 AM
If you mean dropping out before you get your grades no.
But staying to 6 form an college is stupid imo, The only reason people do it is either cos they wanna become a doctor or something along them lines or they want to make friends.
...or because they wish to get more qualifications related to future jobs/the course they wish to do at university :rolleyes:. it's widely known the more qualified you are, the higher your starting position will be when it comes to full-time employment.
Stryderman
19-02-2010, 03:07 AM
...or because they wish to get more qualifications related to future jobs/the course they wish to do at university :rolleyes:. it's widely known the more qualified you are, the higher your starting position will be when it comes to full-time employment.
Not all the time at all.
And who cares about money if your in a dead end job and dont enjoy it.
You can get qualifications anywhere not just school or college.
And you finish uni at what 22 if you join when your 18?
Them 4 years could earn you about 80-100 grand so id rather have the money than waste time at uni.
ToxicPaddy
19-02-2010, 03:10 AM
I mean staying in school to get my GCSE's and then leaving. I did have aspirations to become a barrister, but because of situations at home, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to live at home and need to have a place of my own. I have spoken to a few private landlords who are willing to let me rent a property of them.
Stryderman
19-02-2010, 03:24 AM
I mean staying in school to get my GCSE's and then leaving. I did have aspirations to become a barrister, but because of situations at home, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to live at home and need to have a place of my own. I have spoken to a few private landlords who are willing to let me rent a property of them.
Then imo go for it, You can get qualifications any time or age in life.
dirrty
19-02-2010, 03:26 AM
Not all the time at all.
And who cares about money if your in a dead end job and dont enjoy it.
You can get qualifications anywhere not just school or college.
And you finish uni at what 22 if you join when your 18?
Them 4 years could earn you about 80-100 grand so id rather have the money than waste time at uni.
you can have a decent paying job and enjoy it y'anno. what's up with these silly generalisations :S i didn't say you couldn't get qualifications elsewhere, as it's quite obvious that people can do various courses such as vocational ones. but the thread starter mentioned leaving education post-gcse and going straight into work, nothing about getting qualifications anywhere else. courses are generally 3 years, and it's all about the long-term gratification when it comes to going to university, not immediate gratification. but yeah, uni obviously isn't for everyone so yh.
I mean staying in school to get my GCSE's and then leaving. I did have aspirations to become a barrister, but because of situations at home, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to live at home and need to have a place of my own. I have spoken to a few private landlords who are willing to let me rent a property of them.
could you not possibly live with a relative whilst carrying on with your studies since you wish to be a barrister? if you have a careers advisor at your school, discuss your situation with them. as i'm sure they've heard stories like this all the time and would possibly give more experienced information and guidence.
but yeah, if it comes down to it, then get a job and find your own place as you can always do some courses alongside your job.
MrGazet
19-02-2010, 09:32 AM
You should first of all decide what is best for you at the moment.So you said you wanted to become a barrister but couldn't due situations at home.
So maybe,you can get a place of your own save some money before you pursue your dream.Or you can study while working at the same time.It's up to you
Don't give up easily and I do hope that you'll become a barrister one day :)
Best of luck
Wig44.
19-02-2010, 07:13 PM
If you want a safe job that isn't as likely to make you redundant, get further education and go for a skilled job. Or you could skip college and uni for the lulz, get your own place, be totally skint, most likely on a very low paying job/job seekers and wish you had taken further education. This is made even more likely given the current state of employment. TheHexGirls has suggested a ridiculous path, one which you as a person getting A's and B's should not be considering.
TheEclipse
20-02-2010, 07:49 AM
yes, it's a bad idea. Most places won't accept you as an employee until you get a high school education. How about you try and get into subjects that interest you more? And figure out what you really want to do in life. Often, that involves getting an education first.
Blinger1
20-02-2010, 08:02 AM
yes, it's a bad idea. Most places won't accept you as an employee until you get a high school education. How about you try and get into subjects that interest you more? And figure out what you really want to do in life. Often, that involves getting an education first.
Are you kidding me? If he just wants to work full time there would be plenty of shops around that would take him. If he wanted to be a chippy or a sparky then he would definitely not need a year 12 pass. People start their apprenticeships when they finish year 10!
I pretty much completed my VCE (the highest level of schooling in victoria before university) just for the pass, nobody will care in 5-10 years if you finished school or not.
I say if you REALLY don't care about school and actually are willing to put effort into getting a full time job, go for it. I should have done the same thing.
Problemo
20-02-2010, 10:37 AM
I mean staying in school to get my GCSE's and then leaving. I did have aspirations to become a barrister, but because of situations at home, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to live at home and need to have a place of my own. I have spoken to a few private landlords who are willing to let me rent a property of them.
I've had a job for the last year, im still in sixth form and i really hate my job, I don't want to quit because of phone bills, paying insurance on my car etc. I've been looking for a new job for a while (still part time), and the only job i've found are specialist jobs such as optician, doctor, teacher, nurse were you need qualification to do them. There are a few jobs such as secreterys were you don't need qualifications but the wages aren't very good and most jobs such as these are on temporery basis also a lot of jobs now require previous experience.
If you want to be a barrister why don't you continue you're education, maybe part time such as night classes at a local college (because you're still under nineteen so it'll be paid for by the government and with you not living with your parents you might be entitled to ema) that way you could still have a part-time or full time job and It wouldn't be too much of a workload or have you thought about an apprentice maybe, might not be directly related to what you want to do but it would get you an income, experience, more skills which always look good on a cv. :)
Tash.
20-02-2010, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't recommend it. I achieved my A-Levels with decent grades in august 2008 and I only got myself a job in december 2009. Even that is an apprenticeship which is paid less. If you don't have any experience you are at a disadvantage for any full time job outside of retail. I'd advise you to go and speak to Connexions (website here (http://www.connexions-direct.com/index.cfm?gclid=CJ2N0v_3gKACFdkB4wodLUdvkw)) about it, they can help you on all sides of this (housing, education, personal etc) and maybe that way you can achieve the a-levels and go on to uni and become a barrister like you wanted :)
Catzsy
20-02-2010, 01:09 PM
I think it depends on how much you really feel you need to leave home. If you are really unhappy there then maybe leave after your GCSE's but study the A levels part-time at an FE College. You could even have a year out as there is no age limit for applying to go to University. Trying to do your A levels whilst not happy at home doesn't sound like a good springboard to success in your A Levels.
Sammeth.
20-02-2010, 02:04 PM
I tried out college, during the 2nd year felt it wasnt for me and dropped out. Now I have a full time job (General Manager, obv) and its going pretty good. But don't be under the impression that you can't go back to do a college course, or try out for University or even do something through Open University when you're older. Theres no age limit on further education and if you feel working was a bad decision, then you can always get qualifications as a mature student. I would stay on and get your GCSEs first though and then make a choice, but don't feel its the be all end all. If you think its a mistake, it can be rectified.
dbgtz
20-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Go to college then get an apprenticeship, that's what my bros doing because 1) you still get college education then 2) you make money whilst learning the same qualifications. You say in the years when your at uni you could make 80-100k well they could potentially earn that in a year (after uni).
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