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Astronomist
23-02-2010, 04:24 PM
I think this fits nicely under this topic...

Who else thinks Habbox killed the HC by adding a credit value? 7c for a Club sofa is rediculous. Ive not seen any sell for 7c.

Dinosaurawrr
23-02-2010, 04:31 PM
actually i think habbo killed it.
habbox just do the values by what they see
not what they want.
and i have seen people asking that little for a hc

Twazzle
23-02-2010, 04:34 PM
For this move they had to go to trading rooms to see what values they could reach, and they found that they could get for 6/7c per, so If habbo's stopped selling so cheap the value would not drop.

Habbo's killed the Hc - If everyone wasn't so desperate for credits then the price would not follow.

Alkaz
23-02-2010, 04:38 PM
Habbo killed the HC with the introduction of the Market place. On Sunday you could, pretty easily get a throne for between 98-100hc, yesterday people were paying 110hc and 112hc per throne, people know that the credit is becoming stronger and the introduction of new features means the HC value will decrease anyway.

Snarfull
23-02-2010, 04:50 PM
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL

BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(

Black_Apalachi
23-02-2010, 04:52 PM
Who else thinks that Habbox Values are a guide so you shouldn't take them as guaranteed fact and they're only influenced by the trades which take place on Habbo anyway

Alkaz
23-02-2010, 04:54 PM
Ok well Habbox is guide. Values are changed from what values are seen on the hotel and reported by staff or in the report rare values forum. Fixing values like that wouldn't be right, nor would it by them items true value and people just wouldn't buy them at that price. Up untill last night the hc was still 10c and I dont know if its changed now but the true value was about 7c per hc, people trade by what they see and not always whats on Habbox.

Astronomist
23-02-2010, 04:59 PM
I disagree with some of you saying Habbo Killed the HC. I can garentuee you, if habbox suddenly put the value back up to 14c all the hcs selling in the market place for 9C not 7C as habbox has valued would be purchased and everyone would be selling at 14 or 13c.

brodeo
23-02-2010, 05:02 PM
Completely wrong. The HC has been in decline for months now, that is why other values have been rising so much, because to equal the credit value of an item the HC value of an item must increase. One might wonder why values were given in HC's to begin with, the answer being because they were sought after and more attainable for trades than credits. Since the introduction of the exchange and marketplace a reverse effect has occurred. The HC was never intended to be a currency, just an item of furniture, credits on the other hand will always be a currency.

Snarfull
23-02-2010, 05:04 PM
But look ppl are selling hcs in market for 8c!!! so they are still def not 7c

Astronomist
23-02-2010, 05:05 PM
But look ppl are selling hcs in market for 8c!!! so they are still def not 7c

ikr. And why do habbox say if its in the market place you take 1c off the value because of the commision? Because actually people buy them with the commision :S

Catzsy
23-02-2010, 05:07 PM
Habbo killed the HC with the introduction of the Market place. On Sunday you could, pretty easily get a throne for between 98-100hc, yesterday people were paying 110hc and 112hc per throne, people know that the credit is becoming stronger and the introduction of new features means the HC value will decrease anyway.

If you mean you 'can choose your own furni' feature from buying HC I think most people would go for the majestic chair not the HC.

Samantha
23-02-2010, 05:07 PM
I manage to sell all my HC's for 10c (11c with commission) in the market place.

However, in trade rooms I sell them for 9 or 8c not 7 as habbox has put them as.
I don't agree at 7c.

Snarfull
23-02-2010, 05:18 PM
iPoster next time get print screens of u selling them for 10c xxx

Samantha
23-02-2010, 05:22 PM
i will

Mathew
23-02-2010, 05:33 PM
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL

BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(
It's rather ignorant to put such a tight price on things like that. Rare values are ALWAYS changing because people are always trading for different things. All Habbox does is simply take note of those trades and take an average. If you aren't happy with them, don't use them?


I disagree with some of you saying Habbo Killed the HC. I can garentuee you, if habbox suddenly put the value back up to 14c all the hcs selling in the market place for 9C not 7C as habbox has valued would be purchased and everyone would be selling at 14 or 13c.
I disagree. Habbox valued HCs at 16 credits each at one point and then people just sold them lower. You can't CHANGE what thousands of people are trading in the game. We are all born with a brain and the majority of people have the confidence to trade at something other than Habbox price. It's a GUIDE, not the Bible.


But look ppl are selling hcs in market for 8c!!! so they are still def not 7c
If you're so bothered about one credit, I'm sure someone will happily give you one.

Rigr
23-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Tbh habbo is all about supply and demand. Because hc sofas are so common, and at the moment there isnt much demand for them, they dropped and will probably continue dropping. You cant change what people are willing to pay for them (unless you did like some massive campaign :P).

However, habbox is only a guideline amount and you can sell your items at what price you want. I do agree that some people treat habbox like a bible though so i can see why your annoyed.

P.S the rumour that you will be able to choose your hc present doesnt help the hc's value

Astronomist
23-02-2010, 05:46 PM
I disagree. Habbox valued HCs at 16 credits each at one point and then people just sold them lower. You can't CHANGE what thousands of people are trading in the game. We are all born with a brain and the majority of people have the confidence to trade at something other than Habbox price. It's a GUIDE, not the Bible.

I disagree with this... noobs and zeds treat habbox like a bible and theyre the ones selling the hcs to the traders. The traders refuse to buy unless theyre getting 1 credit profit. Habbox has taken notice of this and is making it impossible to make profit on hcs.

Mr-Trainor
23-02-2010, 05:50 PM
Habbox is only a GUIDE and can never be 100% accurate. Just because we value the Club Sofa at 7c, that doesn't mean to say that YOU have to follow that because you don't have to if you don't want to :)

Astronomist
23-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Habbox is only a GUIDE and can never be 100% accurate. Just because we value the Club Sofa at 7c, that doesn't mean to say that YOU have to follow that because you don't have to if you don't want to :)

Yes but all the noobs and zeds will be buying for 7c only which will make it impossible to sell for more. And anyway. Theyre selling at 8 - 9c so value should be atleast 8.5c...

Aidenn
23-02-2010, 06:04 PM
If you mean you 'can choose your own furni' feature from buying HC I think most people would go for the majestic chair not the HC.

My point exactly, i will be going for things worth over 1hc, for example the majestic chair and Butler.

Habbox RVR's didn't kill the value in HC, habbo's and habbo did, RVR's only edit values on what they see reported and for proof they have there own forums for users like myself and everyone else to report rare values with proof like a print screen of a confirmed trade.

This Forum can be found at: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306

Thanks.
Aiden ;D

Mr-Trainor
23-02-2010, 06:19 PM
Yes but all the noobs and zeds will be buying for 7c only which will make it impossible to sell for more. And anyway. Theyre selling at 8 - 9c so value should be atleast 8.5c...

If you feel a value is inaccurate, you can report it here: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 with any evidence you have to back up what you're saying :)

-:Undertaker:-
23-02-2010, 06:21 PM
But look ppl are selling hcs in market for 8c!!! so they are still def not 7c

Them Club Sofas have been stuck on there, granted you will be able to sell the odd Club Sofas for 8 C and maybe even 9 C at times but I found and others found that 7 C was the better price rather than 8 C. If we'd of updated to 8 C people would be saying why didnt we update to 9 C. My advice now as most others have worked out, just get rid of Club Sofas if you cannot be prepared to take more of a risk.

Black_Apalachi
23-02-2010, 09:11 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many Credits would 60 RD be today? Thinking back to the good old days when the the HC Sofa was like a pillar in the rare trading market - always maintained a solid value of 60 RD :8

Robbie
23-02-2010, 09:18 PM
Yes but all the noobs and zeds will be buying for 7c only which will make it impossible to sell for more. And anyway. Theyre selling at 8 - 9c so value should be atleast 8.5c...

Half a credit eh

Ajthedragon
23-02-2010, 09:18 PM
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL

BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(

No Habbox just choose not to rig things?

Habbo ruined everything when the marketplace was introduced, plus the introduction of averages, people just wanted to buy for less than the average and people who needed creds sold for less, everything doom and gloom.

The way things are going I just don't find habbo fun anymore...

AgnesIO
23-02-2010, 09:24 PM
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL

BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(

Going by your rounding up to numbers with 0 on the end (or 1) let's have a quick look at how rare values would be..

Petal Patch = 10hc
White Pillow = 1hc
Cherry and Pistachio ICM = 10hc each
DJ Deck = 10hc

Now looking at that your idea of rounding things in 10's DOES NOT ******* WORK. USE YOUR BRAIN for just 5 MINUTES. Our RVR's work and work to keep values accurate - which might I point out is what you lot want, yet you still are not happy.

--

Rob. 60RD is around 20 credits :)

I normally use Lodge Corners to work this stuff out. 1c is 1 lodge corner normally, however technically lodge corner's should be 3rd - to you x the 10 lodge corners by 10 = 30RD - or x20 would be 60RD. Then you just divide that by 3 - as that is how much they are from the cat.

Of course since Marketplace that may be slightly off, as credits have increased in value - and since I do not play I dunno if norms have decreased - although I reckon they are not closer to 0.75 credits per lodge corner :P

ecstasy
23-02-2010, 09:34 PM
whatever habbox gives as a price is what they are selling for on habbo. habbox dont make up the prices, they go by what they see. jeez :rolleyes:

Gibs960
23-02-2010, 10:00 PM
they're sellin for 7 creds in stuff like trade city

Special
23-02-2010, 10:03 PM
Habbox didn't kill anything, Habbo did

Right from the Marketplace update, all the values were rumbled, and one of them has to be the price of credits within other furni, such as the HC

I've said it once and i'll say it again - Habbox is just a guide!

They just update all the rares at what people are buying & selling them at, they don't just make them up! The sooner you realise that the better

brodeo
23-02-2010, 10:50 PM
Nobody killed anything, it's all about the demand for an item and its availability, in this case it's working unfavourably towards the Club Sofa.

Nyxs
23-02-2010, 10:55 PM
I would LOVE to see how Habbo would adapt if Habbox, and any other Value sites assosiated with Habbo were shut down for about a week - month

People wouldnt know what to do anymore

brodeo
23-02-2010, 10:58 PM
I would LOVE to see how Habbo would adapt if Habbox, and any other Value sites assosiated with Habbo were shut down for about a week - month

People wouldnt know what to do anymore

I imagine people would use the marketplace solely as a values reference.

Sharon
23-02-2010, 11:18 PM
Most habbos (noobs) probs don't know how to.

WE ARE A GUIDE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET OUT.

crazed
24-02-2010, 12:06 AM
Habbox is only a GUIDE and can never be 100% accurate. Just because we value the Club Sofa at 7c, that doesn't mean to say that YOU have to follow that because you don't have to if you don't want to :)

This, but it's vary rare that you will find someone (that isn't a rare reporter :P) that will go along with it and not live off habbox asif it's thier life support.

Black_Apalachi
24-02-2010, 12:30 AM
Thanks Dom x


I would LOVE to see how Habbo would adapt if Habbox, and any other Value sites assosiated with Habbo were shut down for about a week - month

People wouldnt know what to do anymore

Lol I reckon most noobs would just refuse to trade to begin with, while older people know what the general trends are but eventually everyone would end up relying on the Market Place like brodeo said.

Document
24-02-2010, 01:35 AM
Habbox has NOT killed the value of the HC. Habbo has killed the value of the HC. The rare values department are watching the value of the HC VERY closely. As -:Undertaker:- said in a previous thread that you must bare with us as we go through this difficult stage. Some things are going to be wrong.. BUT we are working on this.. So to sum up.. It's NOT habbox's fault.. It's Habbos..

roboy13
24-02-2010, 04:53 AM
The whole habbo economy is wrong and has always been.
It's not about how many of an item are in the game, it's all about how fast people want to sell it.

At first the HC was priced at 10c, then people wanted to sell them faster and went to 9c, then 9c was the normal value so they went to 8, now some go to 7 already.
The habbo normal rares economy is ruled by the masses of "stupid" people who sit in trade rooms and want to sell there furni as soon as possible.
Now if this goes on for a bit longer then HC's are going to be like Dicemasters.
HC's won't be wanted much anymore so there will be a new way which will destroy the market, either T-sofas or Majestics, or maybe people will keep undercutting eachother on the marketplace instead and ruin lots of prices.

Short version: Most prices are made by clueless players ;)

brodeo
24-02-2010, 06:39 PM
The habbo normal rares economy is ruled by the masses of "stupid" people who sit in trade rooms and want to sell there furni as soon as possible.
Short version: Most prices are made by clueless players ;)

People aren't stupid for speculating, that is how markets work in real life. If people expect a value of something to fall, they will sell for a smaller loss before the expected larger loss arrives. People who want these items benefit, as they get to grab them for a cheaper price tag. When a certain item is in demand or people expect the value to rise they will be willing to pay a little more for an item. People are expecting the value of the club sofa to drop because of both Habbo and Habbox: People are speculating Habbo will let people choose their gift and then sofas will be abundant, but are also speculating Habbox may remove the club sofa as a currency decreasing its value.

Short version: Players aren't clueless, people who intend to make profit in a trading market will determine the price of an item - regular players just follow their lead.


SOFAGATE IS TIRING ME.

triston220
24-02-2010, 07:46 PM
I think habbo should remove the HC sofas for a few months, a year, so when they come back there value will have increased. Maybe longer if needs be.

Rigr
24-02-2010, 07:53 PM
I think habbo should remove the HC sofas for a few months, a year, so when they come back there value will have increased. Maybe longer if needs be.

I don't think habbo really cares how much a hc sofa is worth :P Anyway, there are so many hc's that it wouldnt really make a difference.
Also, hcs don't 'need' to rise again, they can/will only rise if demand becomes higher for them.

triston220
24-02-2010, 07:58 PM
But demand won't be higher if there is a constant stream of HC's coming to the hotel.

Black_Apalachi
26-02-2010, 04:25 PM
But demand won't be higher if there is a constant stream of HC's coming to the hotel.

Even if removing every HC Sofa wasn't a hugely tedious and impossible operation, why on Earth would they ever do that? There are no rare values as far as Habbo are concerned. How Habbos look at their furni and what websites they use for guidance are irrelevant to Habbo. As for this quote; the HC Sofa isn't always the only reason people subscribe to Habbo Club :P

Homosexual
26-02-2010, 04:32 PM
I think Habbox twist the values to suit them, to be honest.

AgnesIO
26-02-2010, 04:38 PM
I think Habbox twist the values to suit them, to be honest.

I think some idiots don't realise how hard the RV department works. Infact I don't think - I know. One of those people is you.

Homosexual
26-02-2010, 04:41 PM
I think some idiots don't realise how hard the RV department works. Infact I don't think - I know. One of those people is you.

Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated. :rolleyes:

The RV Department don't work hard, they do stuff to suit them.

scottish
26-02-2010, 04:57 PM
I'm not going to read every post but

If you believe habbox has ruined the value of a HC - You're an idiot
If you think HC's sell at 9c per - You're an idiot
If you think habbox has fixed the value of HC to drop - You're an idiot
If you're blind enough not to see everyone in TC/TT selling HC's for as low as 5-6cred per - You're an idiot
If you can't see in market that they sell for 7c (7c + 1% comission) - You're an idiot

Everyone else, well done.

AgnesIO
26-02-2010, 05:09 PM
Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated. :rolleyes:

The RV Department don't work hard, they do stuff to suit them.

You have no ******* clue. That is all.

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Please do not be rude to other forum members.

Mr-Trainor
26-02-2010, 05:33 PM
Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated. :rolleyes:

The RV Department don't work hard, they do stuff to suit them.

If you, one day, were a member of the rv department or got to see what we do behind the scenes, you would see that the rv department report many values every day. Also, its the rv management who update the values and not the rv reporters :)

e5
26-02-2010, 06:04 PM
Some reporters, do post fake values, no offence, as I used to do it before :L.... I know they still do it when they can't be arsed, so habbox kinda have killed the value.

Homosexual
26-02-2010, 06:09 PM
I think some idiots don't realise how hard the RV department works. Infact I don't think - I know. One of those people is you.


Thanks for the compliment, much appreciated. :rolleyes:

The RV Department don't work hard, they do stuff to suit them.


You have no ******* clue. That is all.

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Please do not be rude to other forum members.


If you, one day, were a member of the rv department or got to see what we do behind the scenes, you would see that the rv department report many values every day. Also, its the rv management who update the values and not the rv reporters :)


Apology accepted. Read below.


Some reporters, do post fake values, no offence, as I used to do it before :L.... I know they still do it when they can't be arsed, so habbox kinda have killed the value.

Mickword
26-02-2010, 06:10 PM
Who else thinks that Habbox Values are a guide so you shouldn't take them as guaranteed fact and they're only influenced by the trades which take place on Habbo anyway

We never said it was guaranteed. But everyone including me sells them for that price. And therefore they could change any value they wish, and people would sell it for it, apart from people on the habbox rare values team.

-:Undertaker:-
26-02-2010, 06:15 PM
Even if removing every HC Sofa wasn't a hugely tedious and impossible operation, why on Earth would they ever do that? There are no rare values as far as Habbo are concerned. How Habbos look at their furni and what websites they use for guidance are irrelevant to Habbo. As for this quote; the HC Sofa isn't always the only reason people subscribe to Habbo Club :P

I think thats half true, but recently I think Habbo have started looking at values sites to see what rares are 'hot' or popular so they know which rare they can make a few quid out of.


I think Habbox twist the values to suit them, to be honest.

Do you really, care to name some?


Some reporters, do post fake values, no offence, as I used to do it before :L.... I know they still do it when they can't be arsed, so habbox kinda have killed the value.

If fake values are posted most of the time a member of staff would PM us telling us it does not exist, we ask for screenies of big trades nowadays to prove the trade took place. If we have any doubts/real concerns about any values posted then we will not update them and its as simple as that.

scottish
26-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Apology accepted. Read below.

Because one (ex) rv reporter admitted he done it doesn't mean every RVR does?

It was a fact when HC's were valued at 10c on habbox they were selling 7c on Habbo.........

So clearly habbox influenced its price to go down when they couldn't even edit ehe panel

:rolleyes:

Rob-Guy2
26-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL

BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(


How the hell did Habbox complicate things? All they do is report what they see. They don't make the prices. Habbos do. It's not Habbox's fault if Habbos want to try and buy or sell at low prices.

Molly.22
26-02-2010, 06:32 PM
All of these comments about Habbox making the HC go down is pathetic, people are choosing to sell it for this low, Habbox change the price by the trades they see and people report.

The people who are saying 'put it back up to 10c blah blah blah', how can they if it's not being traded at that.

To be honest, people just want to moan and as they can't moan to Habbo, they'll blame Habbox. :rolleyes:

Mr-Trainor
26-02-2010, 06:52 PM
We never said it was guaranteed. But everyone including me sells them for that price. And therefore they could change any value they wish, and people would sell it for it, apart from people on the habbox rare values team.
Not everyone sells items for the same price on Habbox. Personally, I don't look on Habbox much when I'm trading and go by what I think is right. If we suddenly changed the throne value to 1000CS I doubt that anyone would buy for that. Yes, people might try and sell for that price but I don't think anyone would pay it.
Not true imo. Just because we are part of the Habbox rare values reporters team, does not mean to say we dont go by Habbox. It's like saying the Habbox forum mods dont go by the forum rules. But the values are only a guide so no one has to go by it 100%. If everyone went by the habbox values guide 100% of the time, then no values would never change!

We all need to remember what it says at the top of all value pages:


Our Rare Values Department works very hard finding you accurate rare values, but it is not really possible to give a 100% correct value. Remember that our rare values are a guide, to make sure you wont get ripped off; therefore it is fine if someone wants to trade a bit more or a bit less than what our values show.

Rob-Guy2
26-02-2010, 08:25 PM
If everyone went by the habbox values guide 100% of the time, then no values would never change!

We all need to remember what it says at the top of all value pages:

Double negative. Which means that the values would change.
'The the values would never change',
Or 'Then no values would ever change'
Would be the correct way.

<3

AgnesIO
26-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Some reporters, do post fake values, no offence, as I used to do it before :L.... I know they still do it when they can't be arsed, so habbox kinda have killed the value.

Just because you did it - doesn't mean you would know if ANOTHER reporter faked..

The only person I ever reported for fake values was DieselShaq - and he was posting fake values.


Double negative. Which means that the values would change.
'The the values would never change',
Or 'Then no values would ever change'
Would be the correct way.

<3

brodeo
26-02-2010, 10:01 PM
I think what we've all learnt from this is people don't complain when the values are in their favour, when they do.. all hell breaks loose!

Mr-Trainor
27-02-2010, 10:31 AM
Yea, I meant
'Then no values would ever change'

karter
28-02-2010, 08:23 AM
ok we know hcs are a lot and etc etc
but why should other rares suffer?
if hc is going down , why should alll the rares suffer??
Now one day if hcs will turn 3c , we will see all those rare 0.35 stuff in 1 credit shop??
0.1 stuff in 3 for 1 cred shop
basically i am saying that theres no point of reducing other rarres ven if hcs are going down

AgnesIO
28-02-2010, 09:26 AM
ok we know hcs are a lot and etc etc
but why should other rares suffer?
if hc is going down , why should alll the rares suffer??
Now one day if hcs will turn 3c , we will see all those rare 0.35 stuff in 1 credit shop??
0.1 stuff in 3 for 1 cred shop
basically i am saying that theres no point of reducing other rarres ven if hcs are going down

BECAUSE FOR THE LAST ******* TIME, NOW GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD, HC SOFAS ARE NOT GOING DOWN. IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

For the last time: CREDIT'S are goin UP, nothing is going DOWN.

Mr-Trainor
28-02-2010, 09:45 AM
As Dom said:
Club Sofas are and always will be worth 1 Club Sofa. Credits have increased from 0.08 to 0.16 - they've basically doubled in value. However because people are still paying the same price for certain rares in creds, their club sofa value must rise.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=630829 :)

amarj
28-02-2010, 09:58 AM
ok we know hcs are a lot and etc etc
but why should other rares suffer?
if hc is going down , why should alll the rares suffer??
Now one day if hcs will turn 3c , we will see all those rare 0.35 stuff in 1 credit shop??
0.1 stuff in 3 for 1 cred shop
basically i am saying that theres no point of reducing other rarres ven if hcs are going down

I agree with him, the way i see it hcs are going down.


Club Sofas are and always will be worth 1 Club Sofa. Credits have increased from 0.08 to 0.16 - they've basically doubled in value. However because people are still paying the same price for certain rares in creds, their club sofa value must rise.

yes 1 Club Sofa is 1 club Sofa, but in terms on credits 1 Club Sofa was 14c and now 7c, credits will always be the currency in the game so Club Sofas are going in price.


BECAUSE FOR THE LAST ******* TIME, NOW GET THIS INTO YOUR HEAD, HC SOFAS ARE NOT GOING DOWN. IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

For the last time: CREDIT'S are goin UP, nothing is going DOWN.

Also Mr. Trainer said that people paying same price in credits for certain rares, why doesn't the same apply got Club Sofas? because they are going down?

anyway everyone has different opinions :P

AgnesIO
28-02-2010, 10:10 AM
I agree with him, the way i see it hcs are going down.



yes 1 Club Sofa is 1 club Sofa, but in terms on credits 1 Club Sofa was 14c and now 7c, credits will always be the currency in the game so Club Sofas are going in price.



Also Mr. Trainer said that people paying same price in credits for certain rares, why doesn't the same apply got Club Sofas? because they are going down?

anyway everyone has different opinions :P

No.. You really are not using your brain at the moment. If the club sofa goes down in value, then other rares hc value will go up. It doesn't take a genius to know that..

amarj
28-02-2010, 10:18 AM
No.. You really are not using your brain at the moment. If the club sofa goes down in value, then other rares hc value will go up. It doesn't take a genius to know that..

I still don't get that..

If you mean that value based on Club Sofa will go up, then that goes without saying, but the rares will still be worth the same credit value, so nothing has changed

AgnesIO
28-02-2010, 10:33 AM
I still don't get that..

If you mean that value based on Club Sofa will go up, then that goes without saying, but the rares will still be worth the same credit value, so nothing has changed

But the main currency on habbox is STILL the hc value. SO let's look at the petal patch. The value is obviously going to go up, if the value for the hc goes down. Like if the value for the pound sterling went up, you would get more euros for your pound.

Jxhn
28-02-2010, 10:49 AM
But the main currency on habbox is STILL the hc value. SO let's look at the petal patch. The value is obviously going to go up, if the value for the hc goes down. Like if the value for the pound sterling went up, you would get more euros for your pound.

This isnt making any sense. You've said that hcs aren't going down and then made points against what you said. If everything is staying the same in credit value but going up in hc value then either credits and every single rare is going up or hcs are going down.

AgnesIO
28-02-2010, 10:56 AM
This isnt making any sense. You've said that hcs aren't going down and then made points against what you said. If everything is staying the same in credit value but going up in hc value then either credits and every single rare is going up or hcs are going down.

Credit's are going up, nothing else is changing much..

It makes sense if you look at it literally. Credits go up - so technically the value of everything is going down. However th9ings are just weaker to credit value. And if the hc is worth less - then everything else when traded in hc's is worth less.

Mr-Trainor
28-02-2010, 11:03 AM
Technically, credits are going up. 1 credit was 0.08 and now its around 0.15-0.16.

karter
28-02-2010, 11:06 AM
To those who say habbox doesnt control rare values its just a guide..
all the people follow habbox
they accept what it says so we cant call it just a guide
Moreover, if someone wants to sell things against habbox values
will anyone buy it???

AgnesIO
28-02-2010, 11:56 AM
To those who say habbox doesnt control rare values its just a guide..
all the people follow habbox
they accept what it says so we cant call it just a guide
Moreover, if someone wants to sell things against habbox values
will anyone buy it???

I always sell above habbox value? How do you think the throne got to where it is? It got there as sellers realised they could sell above habbox value - habbox kept up with it - so it kept going up and up.

amarj
28-02-2010, 12:00 PM
To those who say habbox doesnt control rare values its just a guide..
all the people follow habbox
they accept what it says so we cant call it just a guide
Moreover, if someone wants to sell things against habbox values
will anyone buy it???

interesting point, I would say the majority of time no

For me I have experience on selling and buying items and I make my own prices, reguardless what anyone says

scottish
28-02-2010, 12:31 PM
interesting point, I would say the majority of time no

For me I have experience on selling and buying items and I make my own prices, reguardless what anyone says


Erm if everyone sold at habbox price the price would never change instead of changing a few times a day............................................

And habbox was unable to update panel at the start of the credit rise, so credits were still 10c on habbox while they were selling at about 8 creds in game?

So clearly you're wrong.

amarj
28-02-2010, 12:44 PM
I said majority..lol
that includes noob and other poor people aswel..

normally its like everyone selling at 10c..then 1 person says i need to sell quick so he prices it at 9. After that everyone is like 'I bought it at 9c' and people stoping buying them at 10..

that is what I believe is what happening to Club Sofas atm, now they are 6c in habbox..

andoo89
28-02-2010, 12:58 PM
no it did not. habbox is just a guide though a very good one

people want to trade more in creds rather than HC these days. habbox did not kill the hc -

The Club Sofa itself is dying a very slow but painful value death.

scottish
28-02-2010, 01:00 PM
I said majority..lol
that includes noob and other poor people aswel..

normally its like everyone selling at 10c..then 1 person says i need to sell quick so he prices it at 9. After that everyone is like 'I bought it at 9c' and people stoping buying them at 10..

that is what I believe is what happening to Club Sofas atm, now they are 6c in habbox..

You clearly don't know how the market works.........

Jxhn
28-02-2010, 01:07 PM
Credit's are going up, nothing else is changing much..

It makes sense if you look at it literally. Credits go up - so technically the value of everything is going down. However th9ings are just weaker to credit value. And if the hc is worth less - then everything else when traded in hc's is worth less.

If credits were going up and nothing else was changing then the cs value of all other rares wouldntve risen. Of course the the value of the hc stays the same when valued in hcs.

If the hc value is less then everything would be worth less when traded in hcs except it is now worth more hcs so actually worth the same.

Homosexual
28-02-2010, 01:18 PM
Personally, I think Habbox should do a test. Change the value for the HC to 10 credits and see if everyone follows, if they do, you've ruined it.

amarj
28-02-2010, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by amarj http://www.habboxforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6336403#post6336403)
I said majority..lol
that includes noob and other poor people aswel..

normally its like everyone selling at 10c..then 1 person says i need to sell quick so he prices it at 9. After that everyone is like 'I bought it at 9c' and people stoping buying them at 10..

that is what I believe is what happening to Club Sofas atm, now they are 6c in habbox..

You clearly don't know how the market works.........



explain then :p

the way I see it is the market depend on the people and the people in habbo acts this way..


Personally, I think Habbox should do a test. Change the value for the HC to 10 credits and see if everyone follows, if they do, you've ruined it.

habbox don't set the price, they just price things as they see the market, they don't have any control or nor should they try solve this problem because it ain't theirs to solve..

on the side note Hcs was 10c before.. didn't solve any problem then just went even lower

scottish
28-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Personally, I think Habbox should do a test. Change the value for the HC to 10 credits and see if everyone follows, if they do, you've ruined it.

That's by far the stupidest idea i've ever seen on this forum, and i've seen alot of stupid ideas.

If habbox changed the value that would ruin everyones trust in the website so would be a complete fail

davidg61
28-02-2010, 10:41 PM
It's remarkable the prices of these mediocre green sofas haven't dropped sooner.

I agree that they were useful as a method of currency but ever since the exchange was introduced, coins have been far more practical in my eyes. A gold coin will always be 10 coins, but the value of a sofa may fluctuate. It's also very unlikely to ever go up again, due to the growing nature of Habbo. Every day there are more and more sofas in circulation. The only use left for the sofas is their practicality, and I can think of a few alternatives that are more aesthetically pleasing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they hit 3c within a few months.

Mr-Trainor
28-02-2010, 10:46 PM
But there's also more and more credits every day? And 1 club sofa will always be worth 1 club sofa too :P

Black_Apalachi
01-03-2010, 12:43 AM
But there's also more and more credits every day? And 1 club sofa will always be worth 1 club sofa too :P

Yeah :P but at the end of the day credits are credits after all, so they obviously have more practical uses than any other furni. It's much healthier to have a storage full of credits which could be used to top up Habbo Club membership or even snap up a super rare that may be released into the catalogue, than it is to have a room full of sofas gathering dust and possibly decreasing in value at the same time anyway.

brodeo
01-03-2010, 04:20 PM
That's by far the stupidest idea i've ever seen on this forum, and i've seen alot of stupid ideas.

If habbox changed the value that would ruin everyones trust in the website so would be a complete fail

But would be a very interesting experiment!

AgnesIO
01-03-2010, 04:27 PM
But would be a very interesting experiment!

But it would lose habbox it's credibility - and cause even more idiots flooding room's 'HABBOX FIXES RARE VALUES'

So no, it would be a stupid test.

brodeo
01-03-2010, 05:11 PM
But it would lose habbox it's credibility - and cause even more idiots flooding room's 'HABBOX FIXES RARE VALUES'

So no, it would be a stupid test.

I didn't agree or disagree about the stupidity of the idea. For all you know I could have said it would be interesting because of your above statement. I said it would simply be interesting, which it undeniably would.

Jeez why is everyone on this forum so highly strung.

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