Habbo Exchange, Change!

[Lew]

We have made some changes to the Habbo exchange Catalogue feature.
The Habbo Exchange feature has been around for many years and has become a very popular section of the Catalogue. The feature is incredibly convenient for anyone wishing to trade their Credits for items of Furniture, particularly items that are no longer available to buy from the Catalogue.
Unfortunately, we have had to make a change to the system and this has meant that we must increase the cost of buying the Habbo Exchange Credits by 1 single Credit. Before you panic, we'd like to assure you that the single Credit increase on each Habbo Exchange item is the only difference that we have planned and it is a decision that we have taken only because it is absolutely necessary.
We feel that Habbo Exchange offers a fantastic service and that the 1 single Credit increase is a very worthwhile contribution for a feature that gives you such flexibility in the way you trade.
Habbo Exchange Prices
Bronze Coin exchanges for 1 Credits and costs 2 Credits.
Silver Coin exchanges for 5 Credits and costs 6 Credits.
Gold Coin exchanges for 10 Credits and costs 11 Credits.
Money Bag exchanges for 20 Credits and costs 21 Credits.
Gold Bar exchanges for 50 Credits and costs 51 Credits.
Lost_Witness



Sorry, but habbo have gone too far now.

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Similar threads merged.
They dont make money from commission?

[mlp16]

The habbo Exchange coin commission has hit habbo uk

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3239/94154175.png

[Lew]

Already posted here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=631695)

[scott]

what a piss take lol, how silly.

[::Art::]

This is bloody rediculus. Sorry bout bad spellin but I couldn't b bothered to change.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Robbing gets.

[amarj]

aww man, I was hoping what wasn't gonna happen...

not gonna buy for a long time now


I think the reason habbo did this because they relised that people can earn credits without paying habbo a single penny.. like me

and I also believe that the market is gonna be messed up as ever

[Xtina]

What a f a i l for habbo, they're just going too far now ;s;s

[Calvin]

I knew I should of redeemed my credits before this change happened.. :@

[Molly.22]

Atleast I redeemed 5 creds >;[

[Lew]

Lol, I managed to redeem all mine before change.
tyrna sell thrones now

[::Art::]

I have to redeem 612c :(

[Semple]

You've got to be kidding me..

Considering they just decreased the amount of credits per voucher, they should decrease the price of exchange, not bloody make them more expensive.

[Aidenn]

This is stupid, i can now confirm habbo has hit the recession ;L

THAT 1 CREDIT MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE! :@, i could buy a piece of furni for 1 cred from a shop?!?!? ;o

[Kalk]

I actually bought 600C in Gold Bars, Sacks, Gold Silver and Bronze Coins.. Now I'll just have wasted like 20 redeeming them.

They have to be *REMOVED* kidding..

I wouldn't have minded using Pixels to exchange, I have loads of those sat there doing NOTHING whatsoever..

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[amarj]

I been thinking about this.. maybe it will bring back furni trading from the old habbo lol..

maybe hcs useful again?

what you guys think?

[mlp16]

Protest in Public Room Hallway
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8782/23844834.png
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3760/65454560.png

Online Rants, spread right across the Hotel Happenings, with an online Petition and Ranting

http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/newsletter/discussions

[Sharpsterz]

Thou that are greedy shall go to hell |-)

[Charlottay!]

omg that is a complete joke.

[Mr-Trainor]

This is just what we need when credits are already quite high in value due to comission charges.. more commisions! Very bad change imo.

[Sharpsterz]

I think they obviously want you to buy them directly from habbo, who the hell would waste real money on them anymore anyway :S

[myke]

http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/newsletter ...
Must be like the only free thing on Habbo anymore.. lmao.
Careful, might make you pay to view it soon.

[Jxhn]

You've got to be kidding me..

Considering they just decreased the amount of credits per voucher, they should decrease the price of exchange, not bloody make them more expensive.
So that gold bars cost 49c? Credits shouldve just stayed at 50 imo.


I actually bought 600C in Gold Bars, Sacks, Gold Silver and Bronze Coins.. Now I'll just have wasted like 20 redeeming them.

They have to be F****** kidding..

I wouldn't have minded using Pixels to exchange, I have loads of those sat there doing NOTHING whatsoever..
Gold bars and stuff are still worth the same amount of creds, it just costs 1c extra to buy them out of cat.

The article keeps repeating that its 'absolutly necessary' but doesn't say why.

[PurpleCrayon]

Thats 1c Shops gone now then!

[Aidobmac]

This is going to far.....

I hope everyone at least tries to boycott credits now to make them realize how stupid they were. In fact I might start a petition.....


The article keeps repeating that its 'absolutely necessary' but doesn't say why.

Its necessary because there fat pockets are not fat enough..... I mean do you know how much a pure gold toilet costs theses days?!?! Its ridiculous!

[PurpleCrayon]

This is going to far.....

I hope everyone at least tries to boycott credits now to make them realize how stupid they were. In fact I might start a petition.....

Do it!

[brodeo]

They might as well completely remove the one credit purchase, nobody will ever buy one credit anymore! This has been done for two reasons, to encourage credit buying via purchase rather than trades and to earn more off the exchange.

My suggestion, have a one week boycott of purchasing credits via phone line, credit card, any method on a set date in the near future. If executed well and communicated to a lot of Habbos it could have a profound effect.

[LucasLuke]

Oh my!

*REMOVED*

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[brodeo]

On the flip side maybe the HC will recover as people turn their back on credits.

[Aidobmac]

On the flip side maybe the HC will recover as people turn their back on credits.


DAMN IT!!!

I just sold all mine for like 7 creds :eusa_wall

[::Art::]

Everyone should boycott for one week. Don't exchange from catalogue either. Just use what you have.

[Seatherny]

You can say "dont buy credits for a day/week" but the fact is there are tens of thousands of habbos and only a few hundred on this forum. If it was to happen, all the fansites would have to get together to do it, which is highly unlikely.

[Special]

You're all in terrible anger yet you all still insist to play Habbo. Excuse me for being slightly ignorant but it kinda speaks for itself...

[Jordy]

This has to be one of the best Hallway riots I've seen in ages :P

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8045/hallwayriotlol.png

[PurpleCrayon]

Most people disagree on this one, I wonder what Habbox Owners opinion is?

[Ajthedragon]

Disgusting.

[brodeo]

You can say "dont buy credits for a day/week" but the fact is there are tens of thousands of habbos and only a few hundred on this forum. If it was to happen, all the fansites would have to get together to do it, which is highly unlikely.

The trouble being no fansite would put their neck on the line because they would lose their status. If it were to happen it would have to be an all in effort, and I don't see cooperation between fansites as a likely occurence!

[::Art::]

Petition is all I can say...

[-:Undertaker:-]

They wont listen unless you all stop playing. We've had worse protests before and they've just totally ignored them, even banning people in the process (Callie).

[brodeo]

Petitions are rather ineffective though, they won't dent profits.

[amarj]

They wont listen unless you all stop playing. We've had worse protests before and they've just totally ignored them, even banning people in the process (Callie).

whats the story about Callie?
I'm not aware of it

thanks to a particular person I manage to trade gold bar to 50 1c coins :P

[Mr-Trainor]

This is going to far.....

I hope everyone at least tries to boycott credits now to make them realize how stupid they were. In fact I might start a petition.....


I did make this group: http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/exchangechange :P

[Markeh]

It's absolutely stupid. They're just conning us out of more money. Wish I hadn't bought 6 months HC a couple of weeks ago now.

[Jordy]

This is all rather hilarious. Bare in mind the Hallway had a maximum capacity of 100 back in the days of Callie, with a capacity of 200 these days, riots are much bigger =]

I've managed to get a few trends going lol. First of all I started blaming it on Gordon Brown and about 10 people joined in on that. Someone then started blaming MPs for claiming credits and furni on their expenses LOL.

The latest craze I've managed to start is "BRING BACK CALLIE".

Awesome stuff.

[Mr-Trainor]

Tbh I think they'll just look at these petitions/protests and ignore them thinking 'they'll get used to it.' :(

[Christopher]

Moves like this are completely unnecessary and over my time on Habbo, especially the last year or so, Sulake have just become out of order with their greed.

[PurpleCrayon]

Aussie habbo still has it.. So don't think for a second Habbo uk are going to change it back.

[brodeo]

The biggest victim in all of this is Callie, she invested all of her real life wages in Habbo credits before she got sacked.

[::Art::]

What is the story with callie could some1 pm me or something please :)

[PurpleCrayon]

Havent a clue :l Yeah someone fill me in also?

[LoveToStack]

So is this correct:

You buy a gold bar for 51 credits, then redeem it for the value of 50 credits? If that's the case then you could essentially just wipe 10 credits off the grid completely if you bought the same gold bar back 10 times over. Petty stuff.
If that's the case then that's ridiculous. Possibly the most underhanded moneymaking effort habbo has made, ever.

[Markeh]

And remind me, why will 1c make Habbo much richer?

It's virtual currency, these changes were NOT EVER ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

[::Art::]

This actually made me mad irl. Lol sad ik bit c'mon this is just pure greed

[LoveToStack]

And remind me, why will 1c make Habbo much richer?

It's virtual currency, these changes were NOT EVER ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

More credits in the purse necessary for X amount of credits in furni form (the only way to trade credits). So more people purchase credits via real currency in order to get the equivalent trade value.

[brodeo]

Hopefully there will be a 1C tax rate u-turn ;)

[intern.]

Ive Just sold all my creds for thrones, just in time it seems.

Majority of people here can afford the odd cred here and there but what about people who cant.

Also what a good advert for the hotel, " Come to Habbo Hotel, Buy 2 credits, receive 1 "

Not a very good way to attract new People to the game, and a very good way to get people to want to leave.

And also how is it ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY ?!?

[Mathew]

How crazy, buying a one credit coin for two credits.

Habbo won't change it back; they won't want to make a fool of themselves by making another news article saying "we were wrong". Habbo is a business and unless they see a dramatic decrease in their profits, they won't change it.

Someone also posted this on a Habbo discussion board commenting on ludus' behaviour..


I'm going to talk about how ludus reacted to the Hallways protests ...
Firstly he ran in, shotuing "LOLOLOLOLOL" (ofcourse in a professional manner). He then muted the room, advertised buying credits, then kicked us all in the face with another "LOLOLOLOL". Whether you care about the credits thing or not, this isn't exactly what I'd expect from someone who's supposed to be running the hotel. It was patronising.
ludus ... do you really want to make people feel like they have no valid opinon, then laugh like a noob when you feel you have power over them?

I don't even care about the credits, never going to buy them anyway. Just annoyed at ludus :S

I'm with the rest of you, I'm also wondering how this is absolutely necessary. It's simply a greedy company who believe they can get away with all these money making schemes - and the sad thing is, they can.

[Markeh]

More credits in the purse necessary for X amount of credits in furni form (the only way to trade credits). So more people purchase credits via real currency in order to get the equivalent trade value.

In other words, they're robbing us.

[LoveToStack]

How crazy, buying a one credit coin for two credits.

Habbo won't change it back; they won't want to make a fool of themselves by making another news article saying "we were wrong". Habbo is a business and unless they see a dramatic decrease in their profits, they won't change it.

Someone also posted this on a Habbo discussion board commenting on ludus' behaviour..



I'm with the rest of you, I'm also wondering how this is absolutely necessary. It's simply a greedy company who believe they can get away with all these money making schemes - and the sad thing is, they can.

"Habbo is a business". Yeah but there's more to business, I've been told, than:
You pay me 2 real oranges and I'll give you 1 picture of an orange.


In other words, they're robbing us.

Straight up.

[intern.]

WHAT WILL THEY DO NEXT?!?

CHARGE US TO USE THE HOTEL?!

I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED!! :@

[Markeh]

WHAT WILL THEY DO NEXT?!?

CHARGE US TO USE THE HOTEL?!

I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED!! :@

Habbo will be 100% dead if they do that.

Expect it sometime in May.

[PurpleCrayon]

Yeah, Well I quit. It was once a good game to play. Now it's far more serious. Can't be bothered with it,

[Kyle]

*scream*

outrage

[Barmi]

And remind me, why will 1c make Habbo much richer?

It's virtual currency, these changes were NOT EVER ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
Like the Marketplace, it's another way for Habbo to slowly take credits out of circulation... so more credits need to be purchased with money. There have been signs from the Marketplace, Ecotron and other things, so I'm really not surprised. Am I happy? Of course I'm not.

[PurpleCrayon]

This is From Habbo.NL

Aanpassingen Wisselkoers

Gepost 2-mrt-2010 Technische updates (http://www.habboxforum.com/articles/category/technical_updates)
http://images.habbo.com/c_images/article_images_nl/coins_big.gif
Lees hier alles over de verandering van de Wisselkoers-prijzen.
Vanaf vandaag zijn de betaalprijzen voor Credit Meubi uit de Wisselkoers aangepast. De prijs die je krijgt bij het inwisselen van je Credit Meubi blijft gelijk, maar de prijs in de Catalogus zal iets stijgen. Je hoeft nu ook geen pixels meer te betalen voor de Credit Meubi.
Nieuwe prijzen
Bronzen munt - 2 Credits
Zilveren munt - 6 Credits
Gouden munt - 11 Credits
Zak vol Credits - 21 Credits
Goudstaaf - 51 Credits
Lees hier meer over de Wisselkoers >> (http://www.habboxforum.com/help/79)
Crowley, Hotel Manager



We're not the only ones who got busted by this today :(

[dbgtz]

Wow this has to be the crappest idea since the whole of the useless, laggy (to me) BETA start, who needs shockwave when we can completely waste our funds and reinvente it in flash. That's what I think it is to be honest, to much money put into new furni, the new Habbo and stuff like that, stuff we never said we wanted too. I personally wanted a new freaking dance, and one little badge to be fixed which would take like 2 minutes.

Businesses have the right to make money, not take it and have more for them. It's the Habbo expenses scandal (lulz).

[mlp16]

Protests too much too handle? Closed the hallways, but the protest has moved to the Theatredrome and Hotel Reception.

[Pyroka]

Hahah I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner.

[djjack..]

Haha, they've closed the hallways.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8651/dddgt.png

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think i'll join in now, especially as they've started closing the hallways. Pathetic and you can add as many :]'s to the end of everything you say as you want Ludus, but the fact is that you cant actually answer why you've introduced this policy without mention the words 'more' and 'cash'.

[TonyBest]

Protests too much too handle? Closed the hallways, but the protest has moved to the Theatredrome and Hotel Reception.
It even moved to the Lido and Dusk Lounge :P

[Pyroka]

Well they wont revert the decision so I don't know why you lot are protesting. They'll still get their money from people buying credits, people will get used to it etc. Might as well get on with it lol.

[::Art::]

Lol I'm on my iPod so I can't get on habbo but I wish I could. I would bring 30+ people protesting with me

[Cosmic]

I take it they're strapped for cash then? One of the worst things they've done in a while.

[Markeh]

They're doing it to keep the hotel going. Sulake are apparantly £11 million in debt.

[::Art::]

Surely habbo will close then?

[Aidobmac]

Just so you guys know UK and a few other hotels are the only ones doing this

I just logged on my Habbo Canada guy and its 50 for 50 blah blah blah

Weird....I hope they dont do it to all hotels

[today]

No doubt will, money grabbers.

[Ardemax]

Incredibly foolish thing on Habbo's behalf, and after reading 8 pages or so, I've noticed something that is really stupid for Habbo.

Most people buy credits to sell on for hcs or thrones. With this new 1c scheme, people will be put off buying the price of hcs and thrones and therefore won't buy credits. Habbo will then lose out on money.

If I was still on Habbo now, I'd be in those hallways backing every single one of those badmans, apart from ludus. He's a git :).

[Markeh]

It's a global issue, it'll affect ALL hotels.

I'd like to say to those that aren't happy.

Either have cheaper prices and Sulake go bust (and take Habbo with them)
Or more expensive prices and Sulake stay in business.

[Inseriousity.]

Not really fussed about the credits but Ludus needs to grow up or get back to his paper-round, he's acting really childish over the whole affair!

[Arron]

i actually hope habbo goes down hill.
as in Sulake go bust.

[::Art::]

i actually hope habbo goes down hill.
as in Sulake go bust.

How dare you :o
Habbo rocks :)

[Arron]

How dare you :o
Habbo rocks :)

it rocked until 2008 :)

[thorn]

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[Ardemax]

it rocked until 2008 :)

no, it rocked until 2006


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[mlp16]

it rocked until 2008 :)


Er 2006 :P And yeh i wish they would just change it to pixels.

[::Art::]

Er 2006 :P And yeh i wish they would just change it to pixels.

Would solve a lot of problems. Maybe even have the option to buy pixels?

[Mr-Trainor]

Would solve a lot of problems. Maybe even have the option to buy pixels?

Links back to my suggestion which I haven't posted on any forums yet (only in my group) so I'll post it here:

New exchange prices (where C-credit and P-pixel)
bronze coin - 1c + 10p
silver coin - 5c + 50p
gold coin - 10c + 100p
coin sack - 20c + 200p
gold bar - 50c + 500p

THEN you can buy (and possibly trade) pixels:
Only examples:
250 pixels - 1 credit
1000 pixels - 3 credit
and somethig like that? Maybe :P

[Seatherny]

They're doing it to keep the hotel going. Sulake are apparantly £11 million in debt.

LOL nice fake figures. I looked at their profits last year and it was in millions.

The Sulake company provides Habbo in over 30 countries, with an estimated revenue of $67,000,000 for 2006. Sulake earns this revenue via four methods; selling in-game credits, website advertisement and sponsorship and Habbo-related merchandise.

[ElliottThompson]

It is 1 habbo credit

2 habbo credit's taken away from a user every day lets presume

14 a week is lost from that user <-- £1.50 in real life? (haven't played in a while so I dont know the prices)

at least 40,000 players are online each week, lets say only 1/4 buy credits and thus 1/4 of them feel like they need to top up on credits as they are loosing 2 a day to this scheme: thats 10000 people x 1.50 = £15,000 a week extra

In a month thats £60,000
In a year thats £720,000

How many hotels are active atm? Over 10 I would say.... £7,200,000!!!

From changing the price by 1 credit sulake could make: £7,200,000

These are estimated figures and the amount sulake makes could be half of this... double or even 4 times the figure I have come up with... either way Sulake are being extortionate and it may not affect you much as a player but can you trust a company that is willing to make such back hand moves?

Edit: I just read that Habbo is used in over 30 countries - Think of the potential profit Sulake will make from this. Sulake is a company, just because their service involves a community (a child base at that) does not mean that they have any moral ties to the player base, they make decisions to boost profits, not for the happiness of the player base. Sulake will only take an intrest in its player base when they begin to think their profit may take a hit (people qutting the game, monthly login's decreasing.. not as many movie/dvd advertisement deals e.c.t). As long as their community is content enough to play the game Sulake will turn a blind eye. The only thing that will make Sulake listen is if the player base falls away and their monthly figures alert them.

[Seatherny]

It is 1 habbo credit

2 habbo credit's taken away from a user every day lets presume

14 a week is lost from that user <-- £1.50 in real life? (haven't played in a while so I dont know the prices)

at least 40,000 players are online each week, lets say only 1/4 buy credits and thus 1/4 of them feel like they need to top up on credits as they are loosing 2 a day to this scheme: thats 10000 people x 1.50 = £15,000 a week extra

In a month thats £60,000
In a year thats £720,000

How many hotels are active atm? Over 10 I would say.... £7,200,000!!!

From changing the price by 1 credit sulake could make: £7,200,000

These are estimated figures and the amount sulake makes could be half of this... double or even 4 times the figure I have come up with... either way Sulake are being extortionate and it may not affect you much as a player but can you trust a company that is willing to make such moves?

Not everyone buys credits and 40,000 is just never going to happen. £7.2 million is far off the real value.

Sulake, has reported a €2.8 million profit for the financial year 2008.

[Arron]

tbh i was going to say 2006.
(:

dont bite my head off! :P

[ElliottThompson]

Not everyone buys credits and 40,000 is just never going to happen. £7.2 million is far off the real value.

Sulake, has reported a €2.8 million profit for the financial year 2008.

That figure you quoted me is entirely irrelevant
The profit a company makes is completely unrelated to the financial intake a company has.

A company could have a turnover of £50billiob pounds but only make £1 profit that same year because money you take in does not translate 1:1 with profit.

Sulake has hundreds employee's - each of them on nice salaries, thats a massive chunk taken out of the companies profit
Utility bills + Rent for various properties around the world + various online hosts + domains
Advertisements, bringing celeb guests in to meet habbo's

All these eat away at the yearly "kitty" that Sulake has, so their profit is a minuscule figure compared to how much money Sulake makes from virtual items + Advertisement deals with companies.

Also I did take into account that not everyone buys credits, and 40,000 could very well happen, the least amount of people habbo is going to have online each week is 20,000 individuals. After all the hotel has had up to 15,000 people logged in simultaneously at one time. Even if only 1 in 10 habbos buy credits regularly Sulake is going to make million's a year from this 1 credit increase, Sulake is based in 30 countries!

[Seatherny]

That figure you quoted me is entirely irrelevant
The profit a company makes is completely unrelated to the financial intake a company has.

A company could have a turnover of £50billiob pounds but only make £1 profit that same year because money you take in does not translate 1:1 with profit.

Sulake has hundreds employee's - each of them on nice salaries, thats a massive chunk taken out of the companies profit
Utility bills + Rent for various properties around the world + various online hosts + domains
Advertisements, bringing celeb guests in to meet habbo's

All these eat away at the yearly "kitty" that Sulake has, so their profit is a minuscule figure compared to how much money Sulake makes from virtual items + Advertisement deals with companies.

Also I did take into account that not everyone buys credits, and 40,000 could very well happen, the least amount of people habbo is going to have online each week is 20,000 individuals. After all the hotel has had up to 15,000 people logged in simultaneously at one time. Even if only 1 in 10 habbos buy credits regularly Sulake is going to make million's a year from this 1 credit increase, Sulake is based in 30 countries!

You have considered that 10,000 people buy credit each week on Habbo UK. Thats unrealistic. That therefore makes your whole calculation invalid.

I know what revenue and profit are ... :rolleyes:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6341424&postcount=44

Office staff aren't on nice salaries.

[ChickenFaces]

Taxes smell. =[

[ElliottThompson]

It is 1 habbo credit

2 habbo credit's taken away from a user every day lets presume

14 a week is lost from that user <-- £1.50 in real life? (haven't played in a while so I dont know the prices)

at least 40,000 players are online each week, lets say only 1/4 buy credits and thus 1/4 of them feel like they need to top up on credits as they are loosing 2 a day to this scheme: thats 10000 people x 1.50 = £15,000 a week extra

In a month thats £60,000
In a year thats £720,000

How many hotels are active atm? Over 10 I would say.... £7,200,000!!!

From changing the price by 1 credit sulake could make: £7,200,000

These are estimated figures and the amount sulake makes could be half of this... double or even 4 times the figure I have come up with... either way Sulake are being extortionate and it may not affect you much as a player but can you trust a company that is willing to make such back hand moves?

Edit: I just read that Habbo is used in over 30 countries - Think of the potential profit Sulake will make from this. Sulake is a company, just because their service involves a community (a child base at that) does not mean that they have any moral ties to the player base, they make decisions to boost profits, not for the happiness of the player base. Sulake will only take an intrest in its player base when they begin to think their profit may take a hit (people qutting the game, monthly login's decreasing.. not as many movie/dvd advertisement deals e.c.t). As long as their community is content enough to play the game Sulake will turn a blind eye. The only thing that will make Sulake listen is if the player base falls away and their monthly figures alert them.


You have considered that 10,000 people buy credit each week on Habbo UK. Thats unrealistic. That therefore makes your whole calculation invalid.

I know what revenue and profit are ... :rolleyes:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6341424&postcount=44

Office staff aren't on nice salaries.

an estimate is an estimate

Noone has the actual figures but one can assume and make an educated guess off of that

You say that many habbo's do not buy credits each week, I would beg to differ and say a fairly large amount of the habbo population do buy habbo credits. I estimated those figures to prove a point, that point being that a small change to individuals made by a large company like sulake can have a big overall impact, I think that came across quite clearly.

[Richie]

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3760/65454560.png



Ok we have established in the last year or two that habbo

-are money robbing *******s
-are unprofessional (looking at the images above)
-are most likely going to lose a large majority of there users in the near future
-Contradict themselves "Please don't give out personal details" "Connect with us on facebook" all you need is your real life details
-Obviously don't want fansites to be run by habbo players themselves, hence why ludus has opened a fansite
-Don't want fansites to have any income whats so ever (Removing V.I.P features from forums)


I'm sure there's way more that could be added but lets be honest habbo is failing big time. As much as you want credits don't buy them. Let them see the large decrease in there profits.

[Hazza]

I'm so glad I've quit Habbo, all thery want now is money money money - its no longer about fun.

Watch out, you're gonna have to pay for doors + making of rooms sooon... Good luck :|

[Richie]

I'm so glad I've quit Habbo, all thery want now is money money money - its no longer about fun.

Watch out, you're gonna have to pay for doors + making of rooms sooon... Good luck :|

Yep they will definitely bring more idiotic things like this in. Sure once their making money their happy. Those buying credits are idiots, if yous honestly want to see change in the hotel don't buy credits. That way they'll make less money meaning their pay cheques will be reduced. I know thats not going to happen though considering theres so many 13 year old addicts that play.

[LightSoldier]

It has finally reached UK and other Hotels. When AU the first Hotel who got the Exchange, change. Everyone was furious and stop buying creds. Seriously? This is soon going to turn into a World Wide Habbo Rant.

[Ardemax]

If they say this was absolutely necessary, then maybe their profits are falling?

I mean the exchange is by the far most used thing in the catalouge and charging users 1c more would keep their profit margin maintained. However, this being said because they thought users would be fine with it, but instead they're trying to boycott the schemes.

Tricky!

[SirNick]

This change was made to the exchange at the Norwegian hotel 4 months ago, back in November.
It was just a matter of time until the same thing happend to every other hotel.

[luce]

what a massive joke this is exacally why i don't buy or trade creds or anything on habbo UK unless i need it for hxl or events prizes :@!

[AgnesIO]

Stupid move by habbo tbh, I finally worked out what '1=1' is too haha

Money grabbing idiots- shame I missed the rioting - would have been a laugh to watch lol.

[Seatherny]

an estimate is an estimate

Noone has the actual figures but one can assume and make an educated guess off of that

You say that many habbo's do not buy credits each week, I would beg to differ and say a fairly large amount of the habbo population do buy habbo credits. I estimated those figures to prove a point, that point being that a small change to individuals made by a large company like sulake can have a big overall impact, I think that came across quite clearly.

And re-reading my post, I never actually said revenue and profit are the same :S so you are making things up in your head.

Anyway £7.2 million off due to a small change is highly unrealistic. Its obvious :S

And 10,000 people buying credits per week is not even close to the right figure as last time I checked Habbo UK never has more than 10k online at a time ... and thats the most popular hotel (or in the top 3).

Its always good to be realistic and you obviously aren't being in your figures.

[jobrowb2]

yep i agree habbo are just taking the p!ss now with this. i thort it was bad wen they droped 35c for £3 to 25c for £3 but come on this is 2 far

[Dinosaurawrr]

its hil;areous
i rang up habbo today :P
and she was SOOOOOOO rude to me
''i dont get paid 2 listen 2 u complain i get paid to reply to you via the help tool'' *puts phone down* :l


they r ruining habbo.

[Seatherny]

yep i agree habbo are just taking the p!ss now with this. i thort it was bad wen they droped 35c for £3 to 25c for £3 but come on this is 2 far

Well tbh there's not much difference between getting 25c instead of 35c for £3 and 21c for 20c sack.

[Ardemax]

Put it this way, you pay 20c for 10 1 cred coins, so 1c shops are gone

[Markeh]

LOL nice fake figures. I looked at their profits last year and it was in millions.

The Sulake company provides Habbo in over 30 countries, with an estimated revenue of $67,000,000 for 2006. Sulake earns this revenue via four methods; selling in-game credits, website advertisement and sponsorship and Habbo-related merchandise.

Note the use of the word Apparently, ty.

2006 figures are going to be different from the most recent figures, aren't they :l

Oh and ty for the -REP, I didn't make those figures up, they were ones I heard from several other people. Don't accuse me of making up stuff, ty.

[Lew]

its hil;areous
i rang up habbo today :P
and she was SOOOOOOO rude to me
''i dont get paid 2 listen 2 u complain i get paid to reply to you via the help tool'' *puts phone down* :l


they r ruining habbo.

Might ring them up, it will be funny.

[Markeh]

Might ring them up, it will be funny.

That'd be hilarious. I bet there's tons of 9 year old kids ringing up crying about it.

[LucasLuke]

Omg! Another one is brewing up trouble...

[Catzsy]

Oh dear lol:D Why is everybody wearing paper bags. Not as if they can't be recongnised is it? LOL

[Dinosaurawrr]

Might ring them up, it will be funny.


That'd be hilarious. I bet there's tons of 9 year old kids ringing up crying about it.

twas hilareous
u shuld try it

[Markeh]

These arguments are quite hilarious. I will have to make the effort to watch them more often.

[Grippz]

They seem to have altered there terms and conditions too


12.2 We may terminate these Terms and Conditions or suspend your account at any time with or without notice to you if: (a) you breach these Terms and Conditions or Habboway (http://www.habbo.co.uk/papers/termsAndConditions) (b) you have not accessed your account for 6 months; or (c) if the Website is going to be shut down or merged with other services. You are not entitled to a refund of fees in these circumstances.

[Xoim]

They seem to have altered there terms and conditions too

wow, looks as if sulake are getting worried, that habbo is going down the drains...

LOL

[Richie]

They seem to have altered there terms and conditions too


Lol they added that because they know there failing and don't want 10year olds perants bringing sulake to court when they close.

[lTraditional]

I am pretty sure that 1 credit is worth 1 credit and not 2 credits!

[Pigperson]

This is most definitely one step too far. Habbo have charged us for the market place, charged us to buy gifts, don't allow us to buy credits in gifts and now they charge us to buy credit furni?

Credit furni is probably the most traded item on Habbo and I just think its being exploited in the way that they make us pay because they know we need it.It's just ridiculous. Not being able to buy credits in presents is bad, but not allowing us to buy credits for the same price is just a rip off.

I think, because people are buying furni for credits, they are charging more for credit coins so people buy more furni from catalogue. But this change just ruins trading.

Link me to the feed-back place please and everyone can say what they think in it :)

I don't think they will find anyone who thinks its a good idea.

Will :eusa_danc

PS. Lucky I bought all my credits in GBs before. But still :@

[Seatherny]

I don't think they will find anyone who thinks its a good idea.

Timo Soininen and Juha Hynynen


Note the use of the word Apparently, ty.

2006 figures are going to be different from the most recent figures, aren't they :l

Oh and ty for the -REP, I didn't make those figures up, they were ones I heard from several other people. Don't accuse me of making up stuff, ty.

In the last trading year, they made a profit of $7 million dollars. Don't trust what people say, look at the facts and figures.
Its common sense Sulake wont be making a huge loss. If they were, we would see some radical changes e.g. several hotels shutting down, less staff etc.

Oh and ty for the revenge -REP.

Edit: Accidental double post, please merge.

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Accidental double posts merged.

[BeanEgg]

Haha, this is extremely stupid! It makes sense for 20c and 50c but not 1c.

2c for 1c? Some people are hungry for business. >.>

[Grippz]

A simple solution for this problem would be to trade credit codes again pmsl

[Ardemax]

A simple solution for this problem would be to trade credit codes again pmsl

my ukash 150credit code for 18hcs plz

one of my first ever threads ;)

[Seatherny]

People are saying the 1c to 2c change is stupid but they had to do it or people would just buy 1c and never 50c or 20c (or very rarely).

[Kronics]

Oh my god, what a rip off! Money grabbing gits :@

[Amzoe]

fgs, what's going on with MMORPG's these days. >.<

[Pigperson]

This is just so frustrating. This ruins habbo and now it puts off people from buying credit furni. I see no other reason for them to do this than the reason that they need money. I don't think they need the money but why do this, it ruins Habbo SO much.

Protests FTW lol

Will :eusa_danc

[davidg61]

I'm hating this too.

On a more productive note, if this is to stay in force, is there any furni in the game which could be used to represent 1 coin pieces the way HC sofas represent X coins? If everyone was to come to an agreement that furni x = 1 coin then trade may be able to continue tax free :)

[Markeh]

Timo Soininen and Juha Hynynen



In the last trading year, they made a profit of $7 million dollars. Don't trust what people say, look at the facts and figures.
Its common sense Sulake wont be making a huge loss. If they were, we would see some radical changes e.g. several hotels shutting down, less staff etc.

Oh and ty for the revenge -REP.

Edit: Accidental double post, please merge.

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Accidental double posts merged.

It was NOT a revenge -rep. It was an honestly deserved one.

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Back on topic, I imagine some people will continue protesting through this evening. I think the majority of people have given up, as they've seen no instant change.

[22andy2231]

dat suckls big time i hate it lol

no point buying them no more

[Seatherny]

It was NOT a revenge -rep. It was an honestly deserved one.

Of course not, that's why it was removed. There is a difference between facts and opinions. Unfortunately people fail to understand that.

Anyway, no point protesting. It was changed on all hotels. Its very unlikely that it will be reverted. They must have analyzed this in detail before implementing it.

One thing is for sure, Habbo is no longer what it used to be. A lot of the changes since 2007 haven't been great.

[Markeh]

Of course not, that's why it was removed. There is a difference between facts and opinions. Unfortunately people fail to understand that.

Anyway, no point protesting. It was changed on all hotels. Its very unlikely that it will be reverted. They must have analyzed this in detail before implementing it.

One thing is for sure, Habbo is no longer what it used to be. A lot of the changes since 2007 haven't been great.

Finally, a point we agree on. I joined in 07, it's gone downhill since then.

[Ardemax]

fgs, what's going on with MMORPG's these days. >.<

I don't think Habbo is a rpg?

Anyway Habbo was amazing until 2006, not 2008 you noobies.

[ElliottThompson]

And re-reading my post, I never actually said revenue and profit are the same :S so you are making things up in your head.

Anyway £7.2 million off due to a small change is highly unrealistic. Its obvious :S

And 10,000 people buying credits per week is not even close to the right figure as last time I checked Habbo UK never has more than 10k online at a time ... and thats the most popular hotel (or in the top 3).

Its always good to be realistic and you obviously aren't being in your figures.

You didn't state that profit and revenue are the same but you said my figures were not correct as Sulake only made 2million euro's last year. This figure is defunct as profit gives absolutely no depiction of that years revenue and thus you qouting that figure did in no way make my figure look unrealistic seeing as they are completely unrelated other than the fact that they are sums of money.

7.2million revenue is impossible to make by enforcing a small change? I beg to differ! Penny sweets for instance, 1-2p each yet because of the volume purchased they yield a massive revenue for the companies which provide them.

The hotel has had up to 15k users on at a time, I played habbo from 2002 to 2009 and reaching 11k+ happened quite regular over this course, with popularity obviously dipping up and down. Currently there are 6k players online... do you think the same 6000 users play habbo 24/7? No, users are constantly logging in and out yet the amount of users seems steady at around 6000 meaning people are logging in just as much as the people logging out, now think of how often people log in and out on your friendslist over the duration of your playing time and you will realise the volume of users that log into the hotel during a week is really quite large.

Unfortunately Gupta in the world of statistic's you cannot determine whether someone is being realistic or not until multiple recordings are taken from various sources, so as much as you may say that my estimates are unrealistic, that is just your opinion and nothing more. I posted here with estimates, I never once said they are dead on accurate or should be taken for the truth, I simply game an example of how small things like a 1 credit increase actually benefits a company like Sulake much more than you would think which is why you shouldn't just let it slide.

On a side note: Now I remember why I kept away from these forums. Tunnel Vision is not a good thing, you will probably grow out of it.

[help23]

This is actually ridiculous sulake is worth millions and millions of pounds i am only worth a fiver! its not fair! If you, like me want to protest about this try joining this group (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/40460/id)!

[MrPinkPanther]

Anyway Habbo was amazing until 2006, not 2008 you noobies.

Habbo is better now than it ever has been. As a player from 2001 - 2003 I can say that back "then" it was rubbish compared to now. People need to realise that Sulake are a company, they are in it to make money and at the end of the day they are giving away Pixels now which they never did before, they are free!

[Markeh]

Habbo is better now than it ever has been. As a player from 2001 - 2003 I can say that back "then" it was rubbish compared to now. People need to realise that Sulake are a company, they are in it to make money and at the end of the day they are giving away Pixels now which they never did before, they are free!

Remind me again, Pixels are useful how exactly?

[OhLiam]

Remind me again, Pixels are useful how exactly?for pet food.

Also back in the day we didn't even have habbo exchange so we're lucky we even have it, I agree that 2c for 1c is wrong but they need to make money. They can't pay staff with air.

[Gibs960]

Habbo don't take in what the users want, they're friggin ********s!

[Piteous]

this is just going to totally confuse the system. i have no idea how to work out furni values now. ugh.

[Seatherny]

You didn't state that profit and revenue are the same but you said my figures were not correct as Sulake only made 2million euro's last year. This figure is defunct as profit gives absolutely no depiction of that years revenue and thus you qouting that figure did in no way make my figure look unrealistic seeing as they are completely unrelated other than the fact that they are sums of money.

7.2million revenue is impossible to make by enforcing a small change? I beg to differ! Penny sweets for instance, 1-2p each yet because of the volume purchased they yield a massive revenue for the companies which provide them.

The hotel has had up to 15k users on at a time, I played habbo from 2002 to 2009 and reaching 11k+ happened quite regular over this course, with popularity obviously dipping up and down. Currently there are 6k players online... do you think the same 6000 users play habbo 24/7? No, users are constantly logging in and out yet the amount of users seems steady at around 6000 meaning people are logging in just as much as the people logging out, now think of how often people log in and out on your friendslist over the duration of your playing time and you will realise the volume of users that log into the hotel during a week is really quite large.

Unfortunately Gupta in the world of statistic's you cannot determine whether someone is being realistic or not until multiple recordings are taken from various sources, so as much as you may say that my estimates are unrealistic, that is just your opinion and nothing more. I posted here with estimates, I never once said they are dead on accurate or should be taken for the truth, I simply game an example of how small things like a 1 credit increase actually benefits a company like Sulake much more than you would think which is why you shouldn't just let it slide.

On a side note: Now I remember why I kept away from these forums. Tunnel Vision is not a good thing, you will probably grow out of it.

You seem to think all of them buy credits. Tunnel vision? LOL.

Its ridiculous to presume that it will bring in £7.2 million more from a 1c chance :rolleyes:. This is the first time I have replied in here in ages, and why? Because your post made me laugh.

[Richie]

deep habbo discussion happening right here, I hope no1 gets hurt :rolleyes:


Habbo wont fail just yet theres allot of ppl addicted to it that feed there addiction daily by buying more nd more creds making sulake feel that the whole exchange idea is a good way of manking money.

[MrGazet]

oh dear

thank god im not addicted to habbo nemore lol

[Ardemax]

Habbo is better now than it ever has been. As a player from 2001 - 2003 I can say that back "then" it was rubbish compared to now. People need to realise that Sulake are a company, they are in it to make money and at the end of the day they are giving away Pixels now which they never did before, they are free!

I'm sorry but a couple of good features doesn't make it better

[MrPinkPanther]

I'm sorry but a couple of good features doesn't make it better

Except it is isn't it? Lets look back shall we?

1. Rares used to come out every few months, sometimes as many as 6 months between them and the Norms catalogue never changed once in years. Think about that, no new furniture came out for half a year, thats a LONG time.
2. We rarely had events and when we did have them they were a bit, well rubbish.
3. We had way less clothes and only 1 dance.
4. The only "badge" was a HC one, there was no such thing as achievements
5. There were no games like Battleball or Snowstorm or anything apart from Wobble Squabble and diving
6. Credits exchange didn't even exist, instead people used to trade their "Codes" for furniture and it always resulted in a scam.
7. Pixels didn't exist meaning you had to pay for everything and there was no such thing as "effects". This is why I don't think people can complain about Sulake being more money grabbing than they were previously, they give certain furniture away free with pixels. Sounds good to me!

The list goes on but alas I have to go to college.

[Lew]

Except it is isn't it? Lets look back shall we?

1. Rares used to come out every few months, sometimes as many as 6 months between them and the Norms catalogue never changed once in years. Think about that, no new furniture came out for half a year, thats a LONG time.
2. We rarely had events and when we did have them they were a bit, well rubbish.
3. We had way less clothes and only 1 dance.
4. The only "badge" was a HC one, there was no such thing as achievements
5. There were no games like Battleball or Snowstorm or anything apart from Wobble Squabble and diving
6. Credits exchange didn't even exist, instead people used to trade their "Codes" for furniture and it always resulted in a scam.
7. Pixels didn't exist meaning you had to pay for everything and there was no such thing as "effects". This is why I don't think people can complain about Sulake being more money grabbing than they were previously, they give certain furniture away free with pixels. Sounds good to me!

The list goes on but alas I have to go to college.

When you say furniture you mean room effects that last one hour?

[LoveToStack]

On a more productive note, if this is to stay in force, is there any furni in the game which could be used to represent 1 coin pieces the way HC sofas represent X coins? If everyone was to come to an agreement that furni x = 1 coin then trade may be able to continue tax free :)

The reason that wouldn't work is because credits are valuable for a reason. They can be used to purchase items in the catalogue, or traded for other furniture already within the game. Also you can have 10,000 credits within your purse. Look at ducks as a comparison. Ducks can be used to trade for other furni already in game, however they cannot be used to purchase furni from the catalogue and if you had 10,000 ducks it would be infinitely impractical. Some reasons why credits as a piece of furni are so valuable.

Except it is isn't it? Lets look back shall we?

1. Rares used to come out every few months, sometimes as many as 6 months between them and the Norms catalogue never changed once in years. Think about that, no new furniture came out for half a year, thats a LONG time.
2. We rarely had events and when we did have them they were a bit, well rubbish.
3. We had way less clothes and only 1 dance.
4. The only "badge" was a HC one, there was no such thing as achievements
5. There were no games like Battleball or Snowstorm or anything apart from Wobble Squabble and diving
6. Credits exchange didn't even exist, instead people used to trade their "Codes" for furniture and it always resulted in a scam.
7. Pixels didn't exist meaning you had to pay for everything and there was no such thing as "effects". This is why I don't think people can complain about Sulake being more money grabbing than they were previously, they give certain furniture away free with pixels. Sounds good to me!

The list goes on but alas I have to go to college.

1. People aren't restricted to having the same furni over 6 months. You make furni, lose furni, bet and buy it all over the course so there are so many combinations you can make.
2. Fair enough there was not as many events way back when, but when there were, the staff didn't address you as if you were an 8 year old living in a bubble.
3. Less clothes is a fair point, improving clothes was a good move. Dances aren't so important but it doesn't hurt.
4. There were other badges... you just had to work harder for them. Nowadays you get a badge for everything, completely devaluing them altogether.
5. Snowstorm and Battleball are not around today, might I remind you.
6. Voucher exchanges were always scams, that's true. However charging 2 for 1 credit is also a scam, or extremely cheap business tactics to say the least.
7. Pixels are a waste of time. You get them for free so essentially charging "10 pixels + 1 credit" is just for aesthetics. Anyone can see that if you get pixels for free, and credits cost, then credits > pixels in the food chain. Also effects are a waste of time.
Just my opinion, not trying to aggrevate.

[Ardemax]

@FlyDuo there's no point in me explaining, you have been answered by 2 people already...

[Jordan]

Quite lucky tbh, I had no credits in there. I shall be careful of how many credits i put in the catologue to spend. So i don't waste many credits.

[djjack..]

I don't agree with the change to Habbo exchange, but I can see why Sulake have done it. However one thing that I keep thinking about is, back before Habbo Exchange a lot of people would have given an arm and a leg for it to be implemented. Now, if it had been released as a new feature with a 1 credit charge back then, you wouldn't be complaining as much because you would be used to it, it is all you ever knew. And considering it seems Sulake isn't going to change it back any time soon, everyone who's complaining should just live with it.