Jon Venables back in Jail

[Jordy]

Jon Venables, who together with Robert Thompson commited the murder of James Bulger, ages 2 in the early 90s is back in prison.

They were released in 2001 and have both been living under new identities and police protection since then (It's rumoured to cost the taxpayer £1 Million just for their security each year).

Jon Venables has "breached his terms of release" and is back in prison.

News on this is very light on the ground atm; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875371/Bulger-killer-Jon-Venables-sent-back-to-jail.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254956/Jon-Venables-killer-James-Bulger-returned-prison.html

[-:Undertaker:-]

I cant wait until somebody gets their hands on that little rat. If the courts and this country wont do it, i'm sure there are some guys out there who would love to do it and will do so when they get their hands on him.

[Suspective]

Waste of government money all that time. Why were they put under new identities?

[Jordy]

Waste of government money all that time. Why were they put under new identities?Everybody in Britain wants to kill them :P

They've had plastic surgery and everything, just think, they could be someones father and even their children wouldn't know.

[Suspective]

They should live with that - and play the risk.

What are they in prison for exactly? Looks like Jon and his ''secret identity'' will be out soon!

[Jordy]

I sort of hope not, it'll mean even more plastic surgery at our expense if all is revealed. I doubt we'll even find out why he's back in prison.

[Suspective]

Thing is, most murderers spend more then eight years in prison and they are not the receiver of plastic surgery.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

[Ardemax]

serves him right

vulgar child with no respect

[alexxxxx]

Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.

original crime happened during tory government.

and tbh im not in favor of killing anyone.

[Jack.Lfc]

He should be hung.

I was in the strand that day, i was 1 and my mum had me in the pram. Said she remembers the day like it was yesterday.

[-:Undertaker:-]

original crime happened during tory government.

and tbh im not in favor of killing anyone.

Indeed it did, yet he was released in 2001 although the then-Home Secretary Michael Howard originally did not sentence them for nearly enough time. This government though in general has let people like this out because we do not have enough space in prison (due to them not building any) and because like always, the criminal comes first. These two should be at least locked up for life, personally i'd go one futher (as would the majority) and say these two rats need to be executed.


I was in the strand that day, i was 1 and my mum had me in the pram. Said she remembers the day like it was yesterday.

My nan is buried right by where it happened, the two of them are the lowest of the low.

[alexxxxx]

Indeed it did, yet he was released in 2001 although the then-Home Secretary Michael Howard originally did not sentence them for nearly enough time. This government though in general has let people like this out because we do not have enough space in prison (due to them not building any) and because like always, the criminal comes first. These two should be at least locked up for life, personally i'd go one futher (as would the majority) and say these two rats need to be executed.
so you support the death penalty on minors?

[Aidobmac]

so you support the death penalty on minors?

I do belive that some people should not be allowed to live BUT what if some poor fellow was convicted, Killed, then 1 year later someone said OOPS! it was his brother who did it...

You cant bring the guy back!

[LuketheDuke]

they were 10 when they commited the murder, both from horrificly deprived families who put them under all sorts of misery.

I dont forgive what they did but youd hope by now theyd be reformed people, who have to live with the terrible burden of knowing theyve taken a life.

[Jack.Lfc]

Hope someone has a phone in jail and takes a pic of the ****.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254956/James-Bulger-killer-Jon-Venables-returned-prison.html

Just reading the time line and it nocks me sick. and so does the pic of him holding his hand :'(

Even the police will want to get at him, should just release his identity.

Heard somone mention today that he's been arrested for going back the strand.

[CrazyColaist]

he was 10 when he murdered him so tbh no opinion on it.

[Jack.Lfc]

Would love his identity to be released.

[Ardemax]

just read the daily mail article

shocking tbqh

[Grippz]

He looks like an evil little ****

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/295000/images/_296109_venables.jpg

[lazerman]

He was only ten, he didn't know what he was doing.

[Jack.Lfc]

He was only ten, he didn't know what he was doing.

******.

Edited by Catzsy(Forum Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts.

[Suspective]

He was only ten, he didn't know what he was doing.

Of course he did.

[Catzsy]

Of course he did.

I think what he means in that at the age of 10 he is not mature enough perhaps to understand the full consequences of his actions. Having said that most children should at least start knowing the basics of right from wrong and he didn't seem to have any sort of conscience or empathy at all whether by nature or nurture.

[jackass]

He was only ten, he didn't know what he was doing.

Tell me you're joking.

[-:Undertaker:-]

He was only ten, he didn't know what he was doing.

Oh thats alright then.

[Jack.Lfc]

They kill someone, live the high life and get £30,000 between them. its wrong.

Anyone see the news before when they where interviewin people, most said they should release the identitys and they should be man enough to face what they get.(yn)

Also its funny how there given secret identities to protect them. What is protecting the neighbours or the people around them? its a ******* joke

[lazerman]

Fair enough if they got a high life, but what else can they do? They cant work because of protection program.

All everybody wants to do is kill him because he made a mistake when he was 10.

[Jack.Lfc]

They shouldnt be killed they should be tortured.

[ifuseekamy]

It wasn't a mistake, it was premeditated. The main reason they were sentenced to murder rather than manslaughter (which would've been due to their age) is because it was discovered they'd attempted to abduct another boy; a woman had heard them saying they were going to take a child, and in their interviews they admitted they originally planned to take a child out and push them under one of the buses on the main road to make it look like an accident. What they ended up doing was far worse.

[jackass]

All everybody wants to do is kill him because he made a mistake when he was 10.

A MISTAKE?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

Read all that please.


They shouldnt be killed they should be tortured.

Completely agreed.

[Catzsy]

It seems that he was pretty dysfunctional from a early age. Shame people didn't pick up on it earlier. Some backgound that I found:

Jon Venables
Jon was unusually agitated the day before James was abducted. He was restless and out of control.

Teachers started noticing Jon's attention-seeking behavior when it began in 1991. He would do strange things, like rock back and forth in his chair, holding onto his desk, moaning and making odd noises. His teacher moved him to the front of the class where she could keep an eye on him, but then he took to knocking things over on her desk. At first, Jon's violence was self-inflicted. He banged his head on the furniture, against the wall, and would throw himself on the floor. Jon cut himself with scissors and tore at his own clothing. But sometimes his self-destruction pivoted outward. He roamed around the classroom, tearing down the displays and artwork of other students. Jon stood on his desk and threw things at other children. Teachers documented his disruptive antics — they had never seen anything like it before.

His strange behavior was growing increasingly violent. In one incident, he approached another classmate from behind and began choking the boy with a wooden ruler. (It took two adults to pry Jon off of the boy.) He was soon transferred to another school. He was hyper and easily distracted. One teacher thought he was lazy. Falling behind in his assignments was probably another way to call attention to himself. No one thought of Jon as a "bad" kid, in fact some teachers thought of him as a sweet child, and felt sympathy for him. They thought he was pleading for help.

What was going on with Jon at home? Did his family life have something to do with his increasingly disturbed behavior?

Jon was born August 13, 1982, to parents Susan and Neil Venables. Neil worked as a forklift driver but was often unemployed. Jon was the middle child, and both of his siblings had developmental problems. His older brother was born with a cleft pallet, which led to communication problems and increasing frustration and temper tantrums. Jon's brother attended a special school, and his parents spent a lot of their time trying to control him. Sometimes he would be sent to foster families. Jon's younger sister also had developmental problems and ended up at a special needs school as well. Jon was stuck in the middle, feeling ignored, and perhaps resentful of the attention his siblings received. Sometimes Jon would mimic his older brother's tantrums.

Susan and Neil Venables had a tumultuous relationship, splitting apart, and then reuniting. The household was in a state of constant upheaval. After Neil left, Susan and the children lived with her mother, and then moved in with Neil again, only to move out to find public housing in Liverpool. Sometimes Neil would return for reconciliation. The instability affected all three kids. Both parents had histories of clinical depression, and Susan was particularly prone to hysterics. She came from a "strict and disciplined" background, and had been observed physically and verbally assaulting Jon. In stressful times she would shuttle Jon off to Neil's house, unable to cope with him. At the age of seven, Jon was showing signs of anti-social behavior. He hated the neighborhood children who would tease him and his siblings. Jon himself had a squint in his eye, which other kids mocked. Jon was an easy target for the other kids, and they teased him mercilessly, because he was so easily worked up by their provocations.

Because he was too difficult to manage, Jon was transferred to another school, but kept behind a year. This is where he met Robert Thompson, another student who was also kept behind. Susan said that Jon was transferred because other students were bullying him, but once he met Robert, the two became bullies. They singled out kids who were weak or easy targets and picked on them. With Robert as his companion, Jon felt tough, emboldened. The two also took to skipping school on a regular basis.

Teachers noticed how Jon and Robert seemed to bring out the worst in each other, and made efforts to keep them apart. Although they could separate them in the classroom, there was nothing they could do when they skipped school. No one saw the boys as potentially violent, or even more troublesome than the other kids. Jon wasn't willing to work and disrupted the class. Robert was quiet, but seemed to be a shrewd liar, and able to manipulate other students. He seemed more mature than Jon.

At home, Jon's mother changed his diet, hoping it would calm him down, but nothing worked. He picked fights with his brother. When Jon stayed with his father Neil, Robert would come by, but Neil would chase him away. Robert had a bad reputation and Neil warned Jon to stay away from him.

But some would later argue that more deadly influences came to Jon at home with his father. Not through abuse, but through rented movies. Neil Venables rented a lot of videos, and much has been made of his selection. Even the judge at the Bulger trial made mention of the bad influence of horror movies. Neil did not rent esoteric or particularly brutal movies. Jon loved the karate movies, and wished he could be like Rocky. He drew scenes from the Halloween films. But it was Neil's January 18, 1993 rental, "Child's Play 3" that called attention to the video/violence connection. In "Child's Play 3," the soul of a serial killer inhabits a doll named "Chucky". The evil doll, about the size of James, runs around slaughtering hapless victims. But in the end, he is killed in a haunted roller coaster/train ride. A battle ensues on the tracks, and Chucky, who is eventually dismembered, has blue paint splattered on his face from an earlier scene. Although there is no proof that Jon saw the entire film, there are some coincidences. The little child-doll as bad guy, who the heroes destroy in the end. Perhaps it took this cinematic image to invert James into the bad boy, the one who has to die. Jon fantasized about being a hero, the good guy. But he was too scared to take on anyone other than a baby.

Although Jon had an active imagination, he apparently repressed a great deal of hostility. He denied that there were any problems at home, despite his hysterical behavior in class. While he claimed that his family was very loving and supportive, his physical actions speak another truth. During his confession, Jon acted out some hostility toward his father, particularly when the issue of sexual assault on James came up. He walked over to his father and began punching him, crying "me dad thinks I know and I don't." After the first day of trial, he shouted angrily at his absent father. There is little information on the Venables family. Neil didn't appear to be abusive. Susan, however, appears to have wielded an extreme amount of control over Jon. More than anything, he absolutely feared her condemnation and rejection.

[lazerman]

A MISTAKE?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

Read all that please.



Completely agreed.

Wekipedia? No thanks, Nothing about the child mental state, how the parents treated him. Age 10? That the parents fault. Not the child. How the heck can you blame a ten year old child for doing that?


It seems that he was pretty dysfunctional from a early age. Shame people didn't pick up on it earlier. Some backgound that I found:

Thanks

[Jordy]

Wekipedia? No thanks, Nothing about the child mental state, how the parents treated him. Age 10? That the parents fault. Not the child. How the heck can you blame a ten year old child for doing that?I have no doubt his parents are entirely to blame for how he is, however he was 10, and he was not disabled or mentally handicapped. He knew what right and wrong was and chose to do wrong. He did the crime and he knew better, sadly there's a lot of people with absolutely terrible parents but they don't go around torturing and killing three year olds.

[lazerman]

Teachers started noticing Jon's attention-seeking behavior when it began in 1991. He would do strange things

People don't just change?


He banged his head on the furniture, against the wall, and would throw himself on the floor. Jon cut himself with scissors and tore at his own clothing.
Not normal? Teachers and parents should have reported this to the mental unit imo.


Jon was the middle child, and both of his siblings had developmental problems
erm no? So far all evidence show Jon had problems coming already.


his parents spent a lot of their time trying to control him.
He didnt get much loving either. He was also bullied, infact many kids I know who have been bullied have changed and turn in to a bully. Happened to me so yeh.


But some would later argue that more deadly influences came to Jon at home with his father. Not through abuse, but through rented movies. Neil Venables rented a lot of videos
Father letting a a kid under 10 watch horror/brutal movies? How do you not know that the kid had development problems and was slow with learning, however watching the movies 'thought this was the right thing to do' 'Kill people'.

Im sorry, but many people had chances to sort him out, thought out school life and home life, and letting him watch horror movies? No thanks.

Should be allowed to be freed. As far I know, he could have a 'problem' in his head.

[Blue]

I have no doubt his parents are entirely to blame for how he is, however he was 10, and he was not disabled or mentally handicapped. He knew what right and wrong was and chose to do wrong. He did the crime and he knew better, sadly there's a lot of people with absolutely terrible parents but they don't go around torturing and killing three year olds.

Of course he didn't know right from wrong. Thats what parents are meant to do, teach the child how to behave. From what I read in the article and remember from my RE teacher, they both had absolutely shocking lives at home. You can see their parents didn't care.
If your just going to jump on the bandwagon and say "Oh slaughter them, torture them" then your even worse then they are. You should even know right from wrong. To be honest, I think it's good they got new lives. It wasn't their fault their parents were absolute blights on the earth. One of the brothers went to University, and that's more than you could say for some people on the Earth.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Of course he didn't know right from wrong. Thats what parents are meant to do, teach the child how to behave. From what I read in the article and remember from my RE teacher, they both had absolutely shocking lives at home. You can see their parents didn't care.
If your just going to jump on the bandwagon and say "Oh slaughter them, torture them" then your even worse then they are. You should even know right from wrong. To be honest, I think it's good they got new lives. It wasn't their fault their parents were absolute blights on the earth. One of the brothers went to University, and that's more than you could say for some people on the Earth.

That is no excuse to kill somebody and never should be; that little boy is dead because of the two lads who killed him and nobody else. If you kill someone, its you the individual who makes that choice. Nobody else. It is time people start taking responsibility for themselves and stop blaming everything on their background, childhood and so on.

[dbgtz]

You've commited a brutal murder, here's millions of pounds at the taxpayers expense which could be put towards much more useful things but no, were going to help criminals who don't deserve it. No don't worry, were stealing their money too!

I honestly don't care what they do or what happens to them but wasting OUR money on criminals? Yes they are criminals. It's just a total ptake in my book. I'm starting to hate our government more and more.

[Blue]

That is no excuse to kill somebody and never should be; that little boy is dead because of the two lads who killed him and nobody else. If you kill someone, its you the individual who makes that choice. Nobody else. It is time people start taking responsibility for themselves and stop blaming everything on their background, childhood and so on.

Well where does everyone learn how to act from? Their parents. In the animal kingdom and here. When I was younger, i hit my sister, but my mum told me not to, so I didn't.
There was no discipline anywhere in his life.

[Jordy]

Of course he didn't know right from wrong. Thats what parents are meant to do, teach the child how to behave. From what I read in the article and remember from my RE teacher, they both had absolutely shocking lives at home. You can see their parents didn't care.
If your just going to jump on the bandwagon and say "Oh slaughter them, torture them" then your even worse then they are. You should even know right from wrong. To be honest, I think it's good they got new lives. It wasn't their fault their parents were absolute blights on the earth. One of the brothers went to University, and that's more than you could say for some people on the Earth.They still knew that murdering and torturing was wrong? If they thought it was right they would of admitted to it straight away rather than lied through their teeth. They're not mental either, they're perfectly normal people (I know it's hard to believe but it is true). They knew full well what they were doing and should (and somewhat did) suffer the consequences. Their parents should be punished too, however they should also be punished as they have broke a serious law none of the less. I have also not said anything on the lines of "torture them", contrary to most other people in this thread. For the record, it wouldn't make me worse than them if I did say that anyway.

Whoopee doo that one of them went to University? I'm sure everybody could go to University if they had millions of pounds spent on their upbringing by the government and were in detention the whole time.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well where does everyone learn how to act from? Their parents. In the animal kingdom and here. When I was younger, i hit my sister, but my mum told me not to, so I didn't. There was no discipline anywhere in his life.

A lot of people dont have proper parents and it depends on what you think parents and parenting should be like anyway. Often people come from the worst areas, the worst schools, the worst parents but they dont kill people and use it as an excuse. They get off their backside and better themselves.

[Jack.Lfc]

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/15year-sentence-for-wouldbe-killer.1493266.jp

http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2006/05/13/story3326.asp

Read them 2 think he's looking for attention after reading it again.

[lTraditional]

I read this in the papers today, when will people ever learn about not to kill anybody for any reason.

[Catzsy]

They still knew that murdering and torturing was wrong? If they thought it was right they would of admitted to it straight away rather than lied through their teeth. They're not mental either, they're perfectly normal people (I know it's hard to believe but it is true). They knew full well what they were doing and should (and somewhat did) suffer the consequences. Their parents should be punished too, however they should also be punished as they have broke a serious law none of the less. I have also not said anything on the lines of "torture them", contrary to most other people in this thread. For the record, it wouldn't make me worse than them if I did say that anyway.

Whoopee doo that one of them went to University? I'm sure everybody could go to University if they had millions of pounds spent on their upbringing by the government and were in detention the whole time.



A lot of people dont have proper parents and it depends on what you think parents and parenting should be like anyway. Often people come from the worst areas, the worst schools, the worst parents but they dont kill people and use it as an excuse. They get off their backside and better themselves.

If only the world was as black and white as you both think it is. It is a proven fact that a child can be damaged both psychologically and emotionally by an abusive upbringing. This is true if you live on a council estate or a detached house in surrey. Damage to a child by abuse crosses all classes of people.

Whether it was the case for this boy I don't know but you don't know either. Saying he was a 'normal' boy, Jordy - where did that come from? It is a given fact that Jon Venables was dysfunctional and showed abnormal behaviour from early childhood. I can see where lazerman is coming from to a certain extent as they had only just reached the age of criminal responsibilty and were far from being adults. Terrible thing though and they have done the right thing recalling him if they have the slightest doubt about his behaviour.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If only the world was as black and white as you both think it is. It is a proven fact that a child can be damaged both psychologically and emotionally by an abusive upbringing. This is true if you live on a council estate or a detached house in surrey. Damage to a child by abuse crosses all classes of people.

Indeed, so what are you suggesting then?

Let him off? (as bad as the crime itself)
Stop all the bad in the world? (impossible)

I never understand what point you and others make when you make excuses for these people, what exactly are you suggesting we do because quite frankly, myself and the vast majority would like to see this guy in prison for life and would even go futher by putting him to death.

[Jack.Lfc]

How anyone can defend these 2 is beyond me.

[Catzsy]

Indeed, so what are you suggesting then?

Let him off? (as bad as the crime itself)
Stop all the bad in the world? (impossible)

I never understand what point you and others make when you make excuses for these people, what exactly are you suggesting we do because quite frankly, myself and the vast majority would like to see this guy in prison for life and would even go futher by putting him to death.

Not excuses just an comment as to why it may have contributed to the problems as opposed to comments that don't actually see these people as human beings. They still are. There but for the grace of god go I is a very good saying. Imagine one of your family did something terrible. Would you feel the same way? You can't stop all crime BUT maybe more emphasis should be on prevention. Sounds like something should have been done in the case before as the signs were there which is no different to the Baby P case or the poor child who was left to starve to death last week.
This is where the resources should go and Social workers should be told in no uncertain terms that they must be more forceful in their dealings. Yes I would like to see him in a secure environment but I do not pretend to speak on behalf of anybody else.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not excuses just an comment as to why it may have contributed to the problems as opposed to comments that don't actually see these people as human beings. They still are. There but for the grace of god go I is a very good saying. Imagine one of your family did something terrible. Would you feel the same way? You can't stop all crime BUT maybe more emphasis should be on prevention. Sounds like something should have been done in the case before as the signs were there which is no different to the Baby P case or the poor child who was left to starve to death last week.
This is where the resources should go and Social workers should be told in no uncertain terms that they must be more forceful in their dealings. Yes I would like to see him in a secure environment but I do not pretend to speak on behalf of anybody else.

If one of my family did something like this I can tell you right now I wouldn't want to know them and i'd like to see a harsh punishment dished out on them just like it would be any other way. I would loathe them. To that point, even if their family does not want to see them punished why on earth should that matter? - if your family member commits a crime then they have to take responsibility for it. The courts make the rulings, not the families of those who are guilty.

As for social workers;- more government intrusion I see. The thing is, while originally good intentioned you start taking children away from parents because the parents are not politically correct enough and so forth. And on the final point; oh I dont pretend I speak on behalf of the majority, I know I do.

Go and take a look at polling on the death penalty and harsher sentences, or even better just go to an average guy on the street and see what he thinks should happen to little rats like these two. I do speak on behalf of the majority and its the majority who should have the say in a democracy and as I have said before; lets have a referendum on the death penalty to settle it once and for all.

At the very least these two should be locked up in a basic prison with no entertainment or luxaries and the key should be thrown away.

[Jordy]

If only the world was as black and white as you both think it is. It is a proven fact that a child can be damaged both psychologically and emotionally by an abusive upbringing. This is true if you live on a council estate or a detached house in surrey. Damage to a child by abuse crosses all classes of people.

Whether it was the case for this boy I don't know but you don't know either. Saying he was a 'normal' boy, Jordy - where did that come from? It is a given fact that Jon Venables was dysfunctional and showed abnormal behaviour from early childhood. I can see where lazerman is coming from to a certain extent as they had only just reached the age of criminal responsibilty and were far from being adults. Terrible thing though and they have done the right thing recalling him if they have the slightest doubt about his behaviour.He is a normal boy though, his brothers however did have mental problems and were therefore sent to a special school. He did have some behaviour issues brought on by his upbringing but Doctors have said he's accountable for his actions, he wasn't mad or anything like that. You can say he had a bad upbringing but he wasn't wrong in the head, scientifically speaking.

His parents should be locked up too, I would agree with that, but that doesn't mean he should get away scot-free otherwise he'll just reoffend. And now it looks like he has reoffended after spending just 8 years in detention. It would be ridiculous to plant it all on the parents, he is accountable for his actions and knew full well what he was doing, as a result, he should suffer the consequences (and somewhat did).

[Catzsy]

He is a normal boy though, his brothers however did have mental problems and were therefore sent to a special school. He did have some behaviour issues brought on by his upbringing but Doctors have said he's accountable for his actions, he wasn't mad or anything like that. You can say he had a bad upbringing but he wasn't wrong in the head, scientifically speaking.

His parents should be locked up too, I would agree with that, but that doesn't mean he should get away scot-free otherwise he'll just reoffend. And now it looks like he has reoffended after spending just 8 years in detention. It would be ridiculous to plant it all on the parents, he is accountable for his actions and knew full well what he was doing, as a result, he should suffer the consequences (and somewhat did).

Did you read the background that I posted earlier in the thread? He was headbanging, being violent to himself and others. I agree he probably wasn't mental in the normal sense but certainly seems to have suffered from a personality disorder of some sort. I don't plant it all on his parents was just saying that these cases aren't always black and white. I agree that he should be detained and his parents should have been made accountable. Whilst we disagree on some things here a very balanced and intelligent post, Jordy.

[Jack.Lfc]

Forget the £4million that has been spent on rehabilitating Venables and Thompson - giving them new identities and a lifestyle almost certainly more comfortable than they would have enjoyed had they not killed James.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1255271/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Jon-Venables--open-justice-family-betrayed.html#ixzz0h9wXcSUx



4million spent on them the more i read about these 2 the more i feel sick.

[Jack.Lfc]

He's back in for violence in his work place. I just hope the guy who he was violent to releases his identity

[Seatherny]

While strict court orders have drawn a veil of secrecy on the killers' lives, it is known Venables, now believed to be a born-again Christian, had settled down and was planning to marry.


I wonder if his partner knows who he really is?
Why £1 million a year :S They arent followed by police 24/7.

[Jack.Lfc]

I wonder if his partner knows who he really is?
Why £1 million a year :S They arent followed by police 24/7.

He was engaged to a woman then left her for a bloke i think.

[Seatherny]

He was engaged to a woman then left her for a bloke i think.

I thought that was the other guy?

[Jack.Lfc]

Yer it might be, i kno its one of them anyway.

[Seatherny]

Yer it might be, i kno its one of them anyway.

According to the news report, its the other guy with a homosexual partner.

[-:Undertaker:-]

4million spent on them the more i read about these 2 the more i feel sick.

Often people who are against the death penalty say it costs more to execute a prisoner than to keep them alive (not that should matter in the world of justice) but I find it quite hard to believe that an execution could possibly cost anything near to this amount.

[Seatherny]

I am not too sure about what I think about these two people.

They had rough parents and a crap upbringing, hence explaining their behaviour. They were only 10.
In a way its fair to give them a "second chance" as they were so young when they murdered the kid. However, I think 8 years was too short. It should have been atleast 15 or even 20.

After which, release them and monitor them closely. Break a law = back in jail.

[N-Dubz]

I always feel sick when this story is brought up, that poor child that suffered at the hands of those two boys. I think blaming it all on the children's backgrounds etc is just... stupid. Loads of people have those sorts of problems, and yet they don't do that.

It's clear BOTH of the boys should have stayed in jail forever, after killing that poor baby.

[Seatherny]

Today we reveal how child killer Venables' cover has been blown in the prison where he is being held.

The 27-year-old murderer of toddler James Bulger was given a new name nine years ago.

But news of his identity swept the jail where he is in isolation for his own safety.


good to know.

[jackass]

good to know.

Just what I wanted to hear. :)

[kuzkasate]

"Robert Thompson was given a new identity. He is understood to be living with a homosexual partner."

Not only is he a murderer, but hes also gay! I think he will enjoy it in prison then.

[Seatherny]

"Robert Thompson was given a new identity. He is understood to be living with a homosexual partner."

Not only is he a murderer, but hes also gay! I think he will enjoy it in prison then.

He isn't the one back in prison :P.

[Jack.Lfc]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/03/06/james-bulger-s-killer-jon-venables-recalled-for-extremely-serious-allegations-100252-25976437/

[Jack.Lfc]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/07/jon-venables-sent-back-to-prison-over-child-porn-offence-115875-22090622/

[Jordy]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/07/jon-venables-sent-back-to-prison-over-child-porn-offence-115875-22090622/Cheers for posting. I'm tired of all these news outlets claiming to know the reason yet they won't say for legal reasons. Typical of the Mirror to let it slip :P

It does worry me that it says
Probation officers became particularly concerned when they discovered that he was publicly ­revealing his identity.He should be locked up for that alone, if we've paid millions of pounds to conceal his identity he can atleast go along with it.

Lets hope he ends up in prison for good this time.

[Seatherny]

This sick ******* should never have been released if he was such a moron. Their psych evaluation on him failed, but seems to have worked for Thompson.

[Suspective]

Looks like he has a fetish for young children.

[Seatherny]

Looks like he has a fetish for young children.

If the report is true, he should never be released. He got a second chance, and he blew it.

[Catzsy]

If the report is true, he should never be released. He got a second chance, and he blew it.

Well there seems to be significient rumours about serious charges relating to child pornography. His new identity will come out now I believe at the trial and he is at great risks from reprisals in prison.

[Seatherny]

I highly doubt they will reveal his new identity at trial if they havent dont so far.
However, people will find out though through leaks etc.

[Jordy]

Well there seems to be significient rumours about serious charges relating to child pornography. His new identity will come out now I believe at the trial and he is at great risks from reprisals in prison.That's true and I don't think the Prison Service seems too fussed about reprisals which is good. It was always obvious the Baby P killer was going to be attacked at some point, and just a few months into it and he was brutally attacked.

[Catzsy]

I highly doubt they will reveal his new identity at trial if they havent dont so far.
However, people will find out though through leaks etc.

That's what I meant. =]

[Jack.Lfc]

His new name and adress is going round in a text down these ways apparently.

[Seatherny]

Its highly disrespectful of him breaking the law again tbh.

He got a second chance, a new life, a new look, and millions spent on him of taxpayers money and this is how he behaves. Its a disgrace.

[Gibs960]

Should think so, murdering piece of scum, I think he should of got longer, and I think we should know his name, we don't know who you're dealing with when people like him are protected.

[Circadia]

i think its disgusting that some people think that ten years old's would no better . But certainly by that age you would know what's right and what's wrong and when your ten you would look for children just to kill them ?! but the worst thing is they left him to get run over by a train.

[Black_Apalachi]

I can't even be arsed reading the deluded responses in this thread such as how "he was only 10". Oh right, I must have missed the point during my childhood at which I was allowed to commit murder. As for concealing their identities; that's understandable but now that this scum bag has re-offended and is no longer a minor, he should no longer posses the right to anonymity. Even at the poor little age of 10, his victim was TWO YEARS OF AGE and he still needed an accomplice. It's about time the piece of **** grew a pair and faced the world.

It completely makes me sick. Little Jamie was barely three months older than me, and I lived in Bootle at the time. I say we borrow the chair off the yanks and don't wet the sponge. The Green Mile: Part II.

[Hitman]

I can't even be arsed reading the deluded responses in this thread such as how "he was only 10". Oh right, I must have missed the point during my childhood at which I was allowed to commit murder. As for concealing their identities; that's understandable but now that this scum bag has re-offended and is no longer a minor, he should no longer posses the right to anonymity. Even at the poor little age of 10, his victim was TWO YEARS OF AGE and he still needed an accomplice. It's about time the piece of **** grew a pair and faced the world.

It completely makes me sick. Little Jamie was barely three months older than me, and I lived in Bootle at the time. I say we borrow the chair off the yanks and don't wet the sponge. The Green Mile: Part II.
I agree. :8

[dbgtz]

If I was prime minister I would not keep their identity a secret, infact I'd announce it myself. I would not let them ruin opportunities of others any longer (by that I mean he ruined the opportunities of kids and possibly new parks and stuff from the money spent on him). Britain is now officially weak imo.

[Hitman]

If it had been down to me, both of them would still be in jail serving REAL life sentences. They wouldn't see the light of day again. Pity they were let out under new identities... they can freely mingle with innocent people who have no idea who they are. Heck, maybe I (or you)'ve met one of them and didn't know... ugh. I would release his identity and bang him up for life, which he should have done. The inmates can sort him out.

WHY the heck would the Government give these people anonymity? Do they give every murderer anonymity? No. Even the ones who do gruesome crimes like them, so why should they be the 'special' ones? WHY is the Government protecting criminals? It's all wrong, all wrong.

Vote Hitman for Prime Minister!

[Black_Apalachi]

I read in a newspaper today about a man who is being falsely accused of being Venables just because he is from Liverpool and has been in prison. He feels he could be attacked at any moment and is fearing for his own and his family's lives. So let's keep the identity of a heartless animal a secret and allow innocent people to be killed, shall we? :eusa_clap