Why is the filter made for 11 year olds?

[Pyroka]

Keeping in mind that 11 year olds get pregnant and start smoking now, why does HabboxForum have filters which even a 10 year old would think is a tiny bit crazy. I mean if you did a poll (which mgmt blates wouldnt, it may prove someone right) to see how many kids there are under the age of 13, I bet it'd be about 5 people, compared to the ton of regular users on the forum who have to put up with a filter which tells you off for swearing more than teachers did at secondary school.

Soooooooooooooooooooo yeah, why the strict filter lol, cant we have a option to turn off the filter like Habbo does? :D

[Hecktix]

We all know where this thread is going to go.

We do not allow swearing on Habbox Forum because it is generally quite unpleasent.

It's all fair saying "Habbo allow it" but on habbo the word is on the screen for about 30 seconds, on Habbox Forum it is there for as long as the forum shall exist.

There's no need to swear but if you really want to, swear - there's nothing actually stopping you from swearing, the filter just stops it from showing up.

If I wanted to see loads of frustrated teenagers swearing on the internet, i'd open up firefox and type in www.facebook.com and read a few statuses.

Habbox Forum has been fine for six years without swearing, the filter has been loosened over time and it's fine. Hell, back in 2006/2007 the word "ass" was filtered.

[Nixt]

The simple answer to your question is that if we did remove the filter, immaturity would take hold. Even though we do have a lot of older members it is inevitable that the removal of the filter would result in people swearing constantly and using swearing as an insult on a regular basis. No doubt about it. Swearing lowers the tone of discussion and creates a negative atmosphere. There is no need to swear, and I feel the filter has more positives than negatives.

There will be no option to 'turn off' the filter, for the reasons outlined above as well as how it will create numerous moderation issues. Quite simply, it's not going to happen, as much as people will complain and moan - overall, it's best for the forum and thus it will remain that way.

[Pyroka]

We all know where this thread is going to go.

We do not allow swearing on Habbox Forum because it is generally quite unpleasent.

It's all fair saying "Habbo allow it" but on habbo the word is on the screen for about 30 seconds, on Habbox Forum it is there for as long as the forum shall exist.

There's no need to swear but if you really want to, swear - there's nothing actually stopping you from swearing, the filter just stops it from showing up.

If I wanted to see loads of frustrated teenagers swearing on the internet, i'd open up firefox and type in www.facebook.com (http://www.facebook.com) and read a few statuses.

Habbox Forum has been fine for six years without swearing, the filter has been loosened over time and it's fine. Hell, back in 2006/2007 the word "ass" was filtered.

Since the word ass was unfiltered, what else has been unfiltered (and not refiltered? I don't expect you to know, but I'll guess about 3-4 things... Its like 1 or 2 words every year. I wasn't expecting a general unfiltering of everything because that would be silly and let the floodgates open for a load of immaturity. I wasn't even suggesting that, sorry to be so general on that. :P

@Garion same response goes to you :P ^

Why am I uncautioned lol.

[Hecktix]

We last cleaned out the filter the first week Garion and I became Forum Management and around 5 words were unfiltered and have not been refiltered :)

In reference to your caution, think it was a donator issue, did you just buy it?

[Pyroka]

We last cleaned out the filter the first week Garion and I became Forum Management and around 5 words were unfiltered and have not been refiltered :)

In reference to your caution, think it was a donator issue, did you just buy it?

Good show for remembering, I stand corrected. Do still think abbreviations should be unfiltered... *whistles* Dont think anything else should be though, abbreviations are petty compared to everything else lol.

My ban was due to run out today but I thought it'd be 6PM tonight... so you just extended my ban till Saturday instead.

[Hecktix]

Good show for remembering, I stand corrected. Do still think abbreviations should be unfiltered... *whistles* Dont think anything else should be though, abbreviations are petty compared to everything else lol.

My ban was due to run out today but I thought it'd be 6PM tonight... so you just extended my ban till Saturday instead.

Oh **** sorry I thought it was Tuesday! - Sorted!

We know abbreviations are a touchy subject and I doubt we're gonna go into discussion about them when one has been had so recently.

[Pyroka]

Oh **** sorry I thought it was Tuesday! - Sorted!

We know abbreviations are a touchy subject and I doubt we're gonna go into discussion about them when one has been had so recently.

LOL tis fine, dw. I don't get whats so touchy about abbreviations though, I mean most young kids are either gonna know what it means or they aint, no harm done by Habbox either way. They're just shortened ways of saying different things, like text speak.

[Hecktix]

It is my personal opinion that some abbreviations are fine, those that were unfiltered.

However an opinion in the interest of the forum would differ as, as we found out if we unfilter 4, the argument arises that we should unfilter more and even my personal opinion is against that.

[Pyroka]

It is my personal opinion that some abbreviations are fine, those that were unfiltered.

However an opinion in the interest of the forum would differ as, as we found out if we unfilter 4, the argument arises that we should unfilter more and even my personal opinion is against that.

Mmm. I can see from a moderation point of view that yeah, it's confusing what abbreviations are ok and what arent, but thats why you should properly filter the abbreviations instead of having them all allowed? I mean I only used the abbreviations that were unfiltered and that'd be kk with me. I really have no idea why they were refiltered, apart from some immaturity from a certain forum member (or so I heard), no names mentioned ofc. Is cba'd unfiltered?

[HotelUser]

I remember the transition on Habbo from when swearing was prohibited to when swearing is now allowed. The community when swearing wasn't allowed was much better than how it is now. Allowing swearing on HxF would probably go down as the biggest mistake in Habbox history.

[kk.]

The argument about the words are on the forum forever, yeh they are, but the user has chosen to see those words. I mean, whether you see it for 30seconds, or for 7 days whilst threads active, it doesnt make a difference, you've still read it and you chose to. I just hate seeing the stars and not knowing what they're saying.

How would it cause moderation problems :S I fail to see how so please correct me if I'm mistaken.

At least trial this suggestion. Joining a group would work because you wouldn't auto have the filter off. Also, 18+ and gender forums.. Pls

[Hecktix]

Mmm. I can see from a moderation point of view that yeah, it's confusing what abbreviations are ok and what arent, but thats why you should properly filter the abbreviations instead of having them all allowed? I mean I only used the abbreviations that were unfiltered and that'd be kk with me. I really have no idea why they were refiltered, apart from some immaturity from a certain forum member (or so I heard), no names mentioned ofc. Is cba'd unfiltered?

Why would cba be filtered when arse isn't filtered :P

They were refiltered because our act was flawed really, if we were going to allow 4 abbreviations it opened the argument to why we were allowed more, which we were not prepared to do therefore it's best to say no to all.

My aim is to ensure that all abbrevations are filtered, as I can understand that recieving a warning/infraction for saying an abbreviation is frustrating because you didn't intentionally avoid the filter (that's debatable mind, but the first time at least :P), so if they are filtered this avoids unnecessary moderator action and can allow the "Avoiding the Filter" rule to be used entirely for deliberate filter avoidance for instance bolding a letter or breaking the word up etc, intentionally attempting to avoid the filter.

An example of our action towards ensuring abbreviations/alternatives was the filtering of the word shiz. This word has not been permitted at Habbox for some time now, over a year as far as I know yet it hasn't been filtered. Now it is :D

@ Josh, moderation issues would be generated if only half the users had the filter on, is what is avoiding the filter?

18+ forums, no chance. We're a Habbo related forum, we don't need an 18+ forum.

[Pyroka]

I was just wondering! :( Why not consider gender forums though? ;) You never said no to those, ha! You know I'm not gonna let this abbreviation thing die down for quite a while haha.


Why would cba be filtered when arse isn't filtered :P

They were refiltered because our act was flawed really, if we were going to allow 4 abbreviations it opened the argument to why we were allowed more, which we were not prepared to do therefore it's best to say no to all.

My aim is to ensure that all abbrevations are filtered, as I can understand that recieving a warning/infraction for saying an abbreviation is frustrating because you didn't intentionally avoid the filter (that's debatable mind, but the first time at least :P), so if they are filtered this avoids unnecessary moderator action and can allow the "Avoiding the Filter" rule to be used entirely for deliberate filter avoidance for instance bolding a letter or breaking the word up etc, intentionally attempting to avoid the filter.

An example of our action towards ensuring abbreviations/alternatives was the filtering of the word shiz. This word has not been permitted at Habbox for some time now, over a year as far as I know yet it hasn't been filtered. Now it is :D

@ Josh, moderation issues would be generated if only half the users had the filter on, is what is avoiding the filter?

18+ forums, no chance. We're a Habbo related forum, we don't need an 18+ forum.

[kk.]

Avoiding the filter would work in exactly the same way. As long as there is a rule still saying not to avoid the filter, it works the same. If I said 'oh ***' it would get me a warning/infraction because I avoided the filter. (not only that but people who swear are the ones that tend to avoid the filter and therefor would no longer need to avoid and so could cause less moderation.)

Not an 18+, but I mean a specific forum where you can swear, and as much as you like. Made private so anonymous can't see it, and maybe joining a group.

[Blinger1]

It's all fair saying "Habbo allow it" but on habbo the word is on the screen for about 30 seconds, on Habbox Forum it is there for as long as the forum shall exist.
Thats not true. You can always see it because of the chatlog (yes, the drop down bar)


If I wanted to see loads of frustrated teenagers swearing on the internet, i'd open up firefox and type in www.facebook.com (http://www.facebook.com) and read a few statuses.
You can always not look at the posts. As an admin you do not have to moderate (yep, your words)

[Nixt]

Thats not true. You can always see it because of the chatlog (yes, the drop down bar)

Which most people don't bother looking at apart from a specific reason, and can (and is) be hidden for most of the time people use Habbo. What is more, when you log out and log back in, the chat log is erased and started again. Generally, it's not always on show as it would be on the forum. It would permanently lower the tone.



You can always not look at the posts. As an admin you do not have to moderate (yep, your words)

We don't have to moderate, necessarily (although we sometimes do) but we often have to deal with moderator decisions and the like. Not to mention we look at posts generally too. As Administrators, we are still members, and still try to contribute to discussion. That is a totally flawed argument.

[today]

it's extremely stupid that the filter is so strict tbh. But habbox has way too many ******* youngsters for it to even consider the older users. :/

[Blinger1]

We don't have to moderate, necessarily (although we sometimes do) but we often have to deal with moderator decisions and the like. Not to mention we look at posts generally too. As Administrators, we are still members, and still try to contribute to discussion. That is a totally flawed argument.

How is it flawed? you choose what threads to look at, if it is something uninteresting like "chinese boy has a girlfriend of same age" then you don't have to click it... and you don't have to moderate and ****. :S

[ChickenFaces]

The filter is there to keep the forum looking professional and organized. Like it's a big deal that things get bleeped out. Whoopee. If you have something to say that's really that big of a deal that you have to curse to get your point across, then don't do it on the forum.

[today]

it's extremely stupid that the filter is so strict tbh. But habbox has way too many ******* youngsters for it to even consider the older users. :/


The filter is there to keep the forum looking professional and organized. Like it's a big deal that things get bleeped out. Whoopee. If you have something to say that's really that big of a deal that you have to curse to get your point across, then don't do it on the forum.
And how old are you? Habbox is a fansite, not a company thus it does not need to be organized nor professional to a extent.

[Sharon]

Yeah it does Richie ;l the filter is pretty strict so I'm all for a button to turn the filter off ...

[AgnesIO]

How about a unfilter but a rule saying swearing may ony be used in context? Like you couldn't spam a post saying (unfiltered the words as an example): fu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*kfu*k

I understand that, and I don't see why the argument on managements side is it is unpleasant? The rule for 'Do not be rude to other forum members' would still be there - so swearing at someone would just get the same punishment?

[luce]

well filtering the word **** is way too far because when i post now i think is this word going to get me warned etc for avoiding the filter. I mean the main swear words should be filtered you all know what they are but really some of them that aren't allowed people at 11 would say depening on where you're from.

[Gibs960]

Hopefully I won't get a warning for avoiding the filter lol, but why is wt.f a word that you can't say :S I'm confused. And I'm 11 I'm not planning on getting my gf pregnant right away.

[Eoin]

the option to turn the filter on or off is a great shout. everyone would be happy.

[Catzsy]

the option to turn the filter on or off is a great shout. everyone would be happy.

There is no option to do this. =] Interestingly 90% of the posts on this forum don't have any **** in them at all. Last night there was 110 active members on when I was so you would have thought if some of them were strongly in favour they would have posted? Nobody is stopping anybody expressing themselves with LMAO, OMG & WTH? with !!!! to emphasise them further if they want to or just using the words that are filtered.

[Hecktix]

How is it flawed? you choose what threads to look at, if it is something uninteresting like "chinese boy has a girlfriend of same age" then you don't have to click it... and you don't have to moderate and ****. :S

No that's it, Garion and I just sit back and don't care about our staff or the environment they work in :rolleyes:


And how old are you? Habbox is a fansite, not a company thus it does not need to be organized nor professional to a extent.

To an extent we do need to be organised and professional, i.e. you don't see Jin turning the forums off everytime there's a bit of drama. However I don't believe this is a valid argument in terms of the filter, it's not unprofessional or unorganised, just unpleasent and unnecessary.


well filtering the word **** is way too far because when i post now i think is this word going to get me warned etc for avoiding the filter. I mean the main swear words should be filtered you all know what they are but really some of them that aren't allowed people at 11 would say depening on where you're from.

If a word is filtered how would you get warned for it unless you deliberately tried to avoid the filter? I'm guessing you are referring to the word shiz, this word was never allowed and people were getting aprehended for saying it, so we decided to filter it so stop this? I fail to see why you should worry about using a word if it is filtered? Surely if you know it's filtered you should feel better using it knowing there's no uncertainty about getting into trouble over it?

At the end of the day you don't need to swear and if you do want to swear you are more than welcome to, it will just replace your word with *'s. There's nothing stopping you swearing, and the filter is not really a hinderance and doesn't really need changing, although of course we will go over all filtered words every now and then and see if there are any we can unfilter and allow.

People can argue with us until you go blue in the face, this decision won't change and this is not just the view of myself and Garion, infact this is out of our hands. Both Sam and Jin are for the filter as it is and there have been many threads of this kind in the past and all have had the same response.

We have explained the situation, the filter is not going to be changing any time in the near future and nothing anybody will say will change this decision (as the past has proved).

[scottish]

There is no option to do this. =] Interestingly 90% of the posts on this forum don't have any **** in them at all. Last night there was 110 active members on when I was so you would have thought if some of them were strongly in favour they would have posted? Nobody is stopping anybody expressing themselves with LMAO, OMG & WTH? with !!!! to emphasise them further if they want to or just using the words that are filtered.

WTH?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But yeh turning filter on n off would be nice option if there was a plugin for it as the kiddies who don't like swearing won't have to put up with the big bad words of the real world, and the people who aren't 10 years old can see the swearing

[GommeInc]

I don't really see the point in swearing, especially on this forum. It's quite uncommon seeing **** (stars) plotted around and not really necessarily needed. Heck, I use 18+ forums (that could look dodgy) and they don't swear as much as you would expect.

I'm sure everyone is aware of my stance on abbreviations - they're commonly used on the internet, they are not rude and they do not break a mass of forum rules, other than slightly breaking the rule about avoiding the filter (big whoop is all I say, but some people do like to pettifogg!) - even though there are words allowed which directly break the filter :P

[Seatherny]

Tbh, I don't really want to go around the forum seeing posts like this in every thread:

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Wow thats fucking awesome!

I fucking want that game!

Terry is a fucking ********

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I can guarantee if the filter was removed, things such as that will be posted in most threads.

[kk.]

I think someone should reply to what I wrote..

I also have a question. Does habbo filter abbreviations? Like even when the filter is on?

[Seatherny]

The argument about the words are on the forum forever, yeh they are, but the user has chosen to see those words. I mean, whether you see it for 30seconds, or for 7 days whilst threads active, it doesnt make a difference, you've still read it and you chose to. I just hate seeing the stars and not knowing what they're saying.

How would it cause moderation problems :S I fail to see how so please correct me if I'm mistaken.

At least trial this suggestion. Joining a group would work because you wouldn't auto have the filter off. Also, 18+ and gender forums.. Pls

There is no option on vB (not that I can remember) to turn the filter off for certain usergroups.

[le harry]

****ity **** **** ****



Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.

[FlyingJesus]

Having the option to turn the filter off would be pointless and tantamount to simply removing the filter altogether, as I doubt many people would want it left on because they wouldn't be able to follow half of the inane and cuss-filled conversations that would crop up as a consequence of the change. Frankly, with the exception of maybe a couple of jokes we're not missing out on anything important by not being able to swear, so I don't see the problem with having a filter.

[Special]

The filteris a little strict ...

[scottish]

You know you're failing when habbos rules aren't as strict as yours.

[The Professor]

Having the option to turn the filter off would be pointless and tantamount to simply removing the filter altogether, as I doubt many people would want it left on because they wouldn't be able to follow half of the inane and cuss-filled conversations that would crop up as a consequence of the change. Frankly, with the exception of maybe a couple of jokes we're not missing out on anything important by not being able to swear, so I don't see the problem with having a filter.

FlyingJesus posts so I don't have to :P Fully agreed :)


You know you're failing when habbos rules aren't as strict as yours.

Leave if you have a problem with it, its your right to choose which services to use :)

[scottish]

FlyingJesus posts so I don't have to :P Fully agreed :)



Leave if you have a problem with it, its your right to choose which services to use :)

Yes that works, if you don't like it leave :rolleyes: how stupid a suggestion is that?

[The Professor]

Yes that works, if you don't like it leave :rolleyes: how stupid a suggestion is that?

Very sensible :S If you don't like an ISP, you move to another. If you don't like a job, you leave and get another. If you don't like your wife, you kill her and remarry. Its not like its a new concept!

[scottish]

Very sensible :S If you don't like an ISP, you move to another. If you don't like a job, you leave and get another. If you don't like your wife, you kill her and remarry. Its not like its a new concept!

It's not sensible at all, the fact the filter got changed was because 11 year old kids crying why wasn't the thread made at the time telling them to leave? :rolleyes:

Because it's a stupid suggestion and if a member of staff suggested that to anyone they should be fired for being a complete idiot imho.

[Catzsy]

Very sensible :S If you don't like an ISP, you move to another. If you don't like a job, you leave and get another. If you don't like your wife, you kill her and remarry. Its not like its a new concept!

But it is not the ISP or your employer that asks you to leave. It's your choice.

@Scottish - just because Habbo does it doesn't really mean that the management here have to. As I said previously 90% of the members don't seem to have a problem with it and post quite happily. Why do it just for the sake of it and there is an option to keep the filter on there which isn't an option here. Also it wasn't just because of one thread - it's a bit unfair for members to keep saying this.

[scottish]

Basically was and i was following on the idea of being able to disable/enable filter on here aswell.

[The Professor]

But it is not the ISP or your employer that asks you to leave. It's your choice.

And habbox isn't asking him to leave either :S Last time I checked I wasn't representing habbox. I'm simply suggesting if he doesn't like the service he should go elsewhere like you would with any other service.

[Catzsy]

Basically was and i was following on the idea of being able to disable/enable filter on here aswell.

Yes I don't think you could do it without a hack as has been mentioned before though which I believe is not an option here because of security reasons. @Alex, yes I guess that's true as you don't speak on behalf of Habbox but obviously Scott was offended by it and I would be to.

[Hecktix]

Handbags ladies.

I think FlyingJesus makes an excellent point in regards to the ability to turn the filter off, as has been said many times if we turn the filter off people will abuse it, so if its an option to turn it off all the people who dont turn it off will see is aload of asterisks.

As I've said before in this thread, there have been many attempts to get the filter lifted or optional in the past and none have been successful.

So I really don't see why you are still arguing about it tbh.

[Blob]

Yes I don't think you could do it without a hack as has been mentioned before though which I believe is not an option here because of security reasons. @Alex, yes I guess that's true as you don't speak on behalf of Habbox but obviously Scott was offended by it and I would be to.

Nope, there is a plugin on vb.org, I gave KissHabbo it and they have implemented it.

[Hecktix]

Nope, there is a plugin on vb.org, I gave KissHabbo it and they have implemented it.

Whether it exists or not, it won't be implemented here :)

[kk.]

I have asked before.. Do habbo have abreviations filtered?

[today]

Whether it exists or not, it won't be implemented here :)
Seems stupid considering Jin has more exp then anyone else and could deem it as a risk or not, heck vbulletin.org would do so themselfs.

[Hecktix]

I have asked before.. Do habbo have abreviations filtered?

On Habbo you can turn the filter off, so nothing (apart from phone numbers) is filtered if you turn it off.

But as said many times, we are not habbo and we are very different to Habbo.

@ Matt, it's not that we won't implement it because it's dangerous, just because General Management are happy with the filter and don't want to disable it (partially or completely). As said many times, it would also cause moderation issues.

[today]

On Habbo you can turn the filter off, so nothing (apart from phone numbers) is filtered if you turn it off.

But as said many times, we are not habbo and we are very different to Habbo.
In some ways, worse. In others not.

[kk.]

On Habbo you can turn the filter off, so nothing (apart from phone numbers) is filtered if you turn it off.

But as said many times, we are not habbo and we are very different to Habbo.

@ Matt, it's not that we won't implement it because it's dangerous, just because General Management are happy with the filter and don't want to disable it (partially or completely). As said many times, it would also cause moderation issues.
Not what I was getting at at all. I know we're not habbo, but the users of this forum have come from habbo so the rules should be as strict or less than. It makes no sense to have stricter rules than the place that you get your users from.

What I was gettin at was, yes habbo have a filter that you can turn on and off, but, are abreviations filtered? Even when the filters on? If you're allowed to say wtf etc without it getting filtered on habbo, I fail to see why you can't on here. Give me one good reason why this isnt sounding completely stupid..

[Hecktix]

As said before, the moment something is posted on Habbox Forum it remains there for as long as the forum exists.

On Habbo it's there for 30 seconds, it's completely different. The Habbo filter is still in place on the guestbooks/forums, just not on the client :)

[today]

As said before, the moment something is posted on Habbox Forum it remains there for as long as the forum exists.

On Habbo it's there for 30 seconds, it's completely different. The Habbo filter is still in place on the guestbooks/forums, just not on the client :)
Not really, when you can print screen, drag the convo down and read what's been said. Or flooders repeating the words over and over, let alone on Habbo stickers/homepages

[Hecktix]

Not really, when you can print screen, drag the convo down and read what's been said. Or flooders repeating the words over and over, let alone on Habbo stickers/homepages

Stickers and homepages have the filter enabled permanently.

No matter what argument you present, the swearing on the client is temporary, if a user decides to take a screenshot thats their own personal choice for their private use. HabboxForum is for everyone.

[Martin]

I have asked before.. Do habbo have abreviations filtered?

A lot of abbreviations are filtered on Habbo, however they are quite inconsistent with it, as there are a couple that seemed to have passed through the net.

I don't really think we need to copy their filtering system anyway.

Last week a few select abreviations were unfiltered/allowed, and then people started complaining that others should be allowed too, and it's that which makes it impossible to get to a happy medium, therefore it was decided that they would be refiltered to stop people moaning.

As others have said, the posts on the forum are viewed by a LOT more people than in a Habbo room, and will be present for an extremely long time. It lowers the tone considerably, and I don't really see why people need to see the swearing when the *****'s do the job for them of filtering it.

[kk.]

As said before, the moment something is posted on Habbox Forum it remains there for as long as the forum exists.

On Habbo it's there for 30 seconds, it's completely different. The Habbo filter is still in place on the guestbooks/forums, just not on the client :)
Didn't you read what I'd put? I honestly havnt ben on habbo for ages so I don't know if abreviations are filtered or not. If not, then like you said, (which you can't go back on now.) they remain on guestbooks and forums forever.

Also, bit stupid you can say: what the ****

But you can't say wtf

the argument about people will ask what the f is, won't they ask what the *s are ...

At bolt; which ones aren't filtered?

[Hecktix]

Also, bit stupid you can say: what the fuck



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Are yout alking about here? if so, that's news to me.

[Sammeth.]

I'm not gonna make a massive post on this situation as most people have already summed up what I would say, namely Garion, Oli, FlyingJesus and Catzsy.

Theres really no need for Gender Forums or an 18+ forum. If anything it makes everything look more messy and way more immature, having to discriminate between genders and age. Its not exactly a professional outlook on how to solve an issue, which isn't really an issue at all. It just arises out of people wanting to swear for whatever reason they feel they need to.

[kk.]

Are yout alking about here? if so, that's news to me.
I corrected myself :P I meant to put *s in


At sammeth;
people are being contradictative. People are sayingthat 11 year olds use this website, and then saying it would be immature to have it unfiltered and that we have to act proffesional. Makes complete sense

[Pyroka]

In hindsight I probs said a filter removal option would be a good idea, but looking at what everyones said, I can see it'd be a bad one.

Still not dropping the abbreviations :P Oh and Oli if you read this, can you lift my caution now bbs? :]

[Sammeth.]

I corrected myself :P I meant to put *s in


At sammeth;
people are being contradictative. People are sayingthat 11 year olds use this website, and then saying it would be immature to have it unfiltered and that we have to act proffesional. Makes complete sense

It would be immature on our part and we as in Habbox Management have to remain professional in our choices. But of course this website is aimed at a younger generation, Im not saying they cant be immature. With that you have to remain within the rules which I think everyone is capable of. I see a lot of immature posts, and rightly so. They can stick within the rules. So I don't think its much of a contradiction, its just that these words are being applied to two different sets of people, one being Habbox Management, the other being the users.

[hah]

I'm not gonna make a massive post on this situation as most people have already summed up what I would say, namely Garion, Oli, FlyingJesus and Catzsy.

Theres really no need for Gender Forums or an 18+ forum. If anything it makes everything look more messy and way more immature, having to discriminate between genders and age. Its not exactly a professional outlook on how to solve an issue, which isn't really an issue at all. It just arises out of people wanting to swear for whatever reason they feel they need to.

messier than the 655564 forums we have already? or the 654656 subforums that separate everything?

teenagers immature :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O::O:O

[AgnesIO]

messier than the 655564 forums we have already? or the 654656 subforums that separate everything?

teenagers immature :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O::O:O

In fairness to the management they have cut down HUGELY on the amount of forums.

[scottish]

As said before, the moment something is posted on Habbox Forum it remains there for as long as the forum exists.

On Habbo it's there for 30 seconds, it's completely different. The Habbo filter is still in place on the guestbooks/forums, just not on the client :)

If you've been on habbo in the last 8 months you'd see the huge chat history feature which appears in every room allowing you to look back on convos.


A lot of abbreviations are filtered on Habbo, however they are quite inconsistent with it, as there are a couple that seemed to have passed through the net.

I don't really think we need to copy their filtering system anyway.

Last week a few select abreviations were unfiltered/allowed, and then people started complaining that others should be allowed too, and it's that which makes it impossible to get to a happy medium, therefore it was decided that they would be refiltered to stop people moaning.

As others have said, the posts on the forum are viewed by a LOT more people than in a Habbo room, and will be present for an extremely long time. It lowers the tone considerably, and I don't really see why people need to see the swearing when the *****'s do the job for them of filtering it.

Whoever done the filter was stupid though, as they unfiltered like "omfg" but you couldn't say "wtf", if you're going to be sensible and remove abbreviations from the filter don't be stupid and do stuff like that, neither can be used to offend someone so i see no reason why it needs to be filtered

[Sammeth.]

teenagers immature :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O::O:O


It would be immature on our part and we as in Habbox Management have to remain professional in our choices. But of course this website is aimed at a younger generation, Im not saying they cant be immature. With that you have to remain within the rules which I think everyone is capable of. I see a lot of immature posts, and rightly so. They can stick within the rules. So I don't think its much of a contradiction, its just that these words are being applied to two different sets of people, one being Habbox Management, the other being the users.

Oh hi....

[hah]

didnt read ur second post :'(

[Nemo]

It would be immature on our part and we as in Habbox Management have to remain professional in our choices. But of course this website is aimed at a younger generation, Im not saying they cant be immature. With that you have to remain within the rules which I think everyone is capable of. I see a lot of immature posts, and rightly so. They can stick within the rules. So I don't think its much of a contradiction, its just that these words are being applied to two different sets of people, one being Habbox Management, the other being the users.
MY INPUT TIME!!!!!

I fink HxF shouldnt be thinking about catering for the younger generation and who they want, because lets be srs noaw. We havent had a load of new members stick around and the ones that do, probaly arent very young anyway. I was actually surprised to see a thread about someone in primary school.

Anyway, the point im trying to get to it, dont cater for the people who you 'want' to have, coz well they might just not come. Should be listening to the huge amount of people you've got!

POLL IT UP BABEH

[scottish]

MY INPUT TIME!!!!!

I fink HxF shouldnt be thinking about catering for the younger generation and who they want, because lets be srs noaw. We havent had a load of new members stick around and the ones that do, probaly arent very young anyway. I was actually surprised to see a thread about someone in primary school.

Anyway, the point im trying to get to it, dont cater for the people who you 'want' to have, coz well they might just not come. Should be listening to the huge amount of people you've got!

POLL IT UP BABEH

half the DJ's who join are like 10 year old

never the less i'm sure they've heard swearing as they're a DJ :P

[Nick.]

We all know where this thread is going to go.

We do not allow swearing on Habbox Forum because it is generally quite unpleasent.

It's all fair saying "Habbo allow it" but on habbo the word is on the screen for about 30 seconds, on Habbox Forum it is there for as long as the forum shall exist.

There's no need to swear but if you really want to, swear - there's nothing actually stopping you from swearing, the filter just stops it from showing up.

If I wanted to see loads of frustrated teenagers swearing on the internet, i'd open up firefox and type in www.facebook.com and read a few statuses.

Habbox Forum has been fine for six years without swearing, the filter has been loosened over time and it's fine. Hell, back in 2006/2007 the word "ass" was filtered.

but my friends aren't 'frustrated teenagers'…. so there is no bad language for me to enjoy. why are your friends frustrated??? (ps forum looks good)

[lazerman]

Piss off if you dont like it here, many management said no, and it will be a no.

Thanks






Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

[Nick.]

Piss off if you dont like it here, many management said no, and it will be a no.

Thanks






Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

how rude!

[AgnesIO]

Charming boy lazerman. Charming.

[Black_Apalachi]

Keeping in mind that 11 year olds get pregnant and start smoking now, why does HabboxForum have filters which even a 10 year old would think is a tiny bit crazy. ...

Pretty good argument to be fair :P But it creates a lot less grief to just filter everything. It's not hard not to swear and besides, I hate it when something isn't filtered but I'm still not sure whether it's allowed or not.