View Full Version : £42,000 in benefits a year AND drive a Mercedes!!!
jrh2002
13-04-2010, 04:57 PM
The Davey family's £815-a-week state handouts pay for a four-bedroom home, top-of-the-range mod cons and two vehicles including a Mercedes people carrier.
Father-of-seven Peter gave up work because he could make more living on benefits.
Yet he and his wife Claire are still not happy with their lot.
With an eighth child on the way, they are demanding a bigger house, courtesy of the taxpayer.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/12/article-0-091A7FB7000005DC-276_468x624.jpg
More on the way: The Davey family at home
'It's really hard,' said Mrs Davey, 29, who is seven months pregnant. 'We can't afford holidays and I don't want my kids living on a council estate and struggling like I have.
'The price of living is going up but benefits are going down. My carer's allowance is only going up by 80p this year and petrol is so expensive now, I'm worried how we'll cope.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/12/article-0-091B9E65000005DC-376_233x369.jpg
'We're still waiting for somewhere bigger.'
Mrs Davey has never had a full-time job while her 35-year-old husband gave up his post in administration nine years ago after realising they would be better off living off the state.
At their semi on the Isle of Anglesey, the family have a 42in flatscreen television in the living room with Sky TV at £50 a month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo DS machines and a computer - not to mention four mobile phones.
With their income of more than £42,000 a year, they run an 11-seater minibus and the seven-seat automatic Mercedes.
But according to the Daveys they have nothing to be thankful for.
'It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family,' added Mrs Davey.
'We couldn't afford to care for our children without benefits, but as long as they have everything they need, I don't think I'm selfish.
'Most of the parents at our kids' school are on benefits.'
She added: 'I don't feel bad about being subsidised by people who are working. I'm just working with the system that's there.
'If the government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it. We get what we're entitled to. I don't put in anything because I don't pay taxes, but if I could work I would.'
The couple met in a pub 13 years ago. A year later, at the age of 17, Mrs Davey gave birth to Jessica, now 12.
She was followed by Jade, ten, Jamie-Anne, eight, Harriet, six, Adele, four, the couple's only son Tie, three, and Mercedes, two.
'It cost too much to carry on working as we were actually better off unemployed,' said Mr Davey.
In addition to income support, housing benefit, child tax credits and a council tax discount, the couple receive carer's allowance and disability living allowance for Tie, who suffers from a severe skin disorder.
Despite filing for bankruptcy 18 months ago after racking up £20,000 of debt on mail order catalogues they still insist on splashing out on four presents per child at birthdays and last Christmas spent £2,000 on gifts alone.
'Santa is always generous in our house,' said Mrs Davey, who once applied to join the police but was turned down.
She insists her husband would do any job 'as long as we could still afford the lifestyle we have now'.
Mrs Davey, who spends £160 a week at Tesco, says she does not intend to stop at eight children. Her target is 14.
And she adds: 'I've always wanted a big family - no one can tell me how many kids I can have whether I'm working or not.'
I am sure the source is OK considering these lovely people have given a lot of input for the story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html
This is the reason us tax payers get angry when we are all working hard to make ends meet and we have people like these :@ Having more babies to them is like somebody in full time employment getting a big payrise. This proves the benefits system is failing as its not an isolated case. We had some guy in Derbyshire with 16 kids and some of those were in their 20's with 2 - 3 kids each........ This family should have their children put up for adoption, the mother should be spaded like a dog and the couple should live in a hostel. People like this make me sick and until our benefits system gets a huge shake-up it will continue to happen with scum making this lifestyle a career choice. I can get angry about this but whos the idiot? Thats right I am the idiot for paying my tax in to a system that looks after the scum.
Can anybody defend this? I don't blame the family for doing it as its playing the system which benefits them but just shows how wrong the system is.
Adamm
13-04-2010, 05:01 PM
Why would you even want 8 kids?
AlexOC
13-04-2010, 05:03 PM
I mean, stop at 3. Gosh.
jrh2002
13-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Why would you even want 8 kids?
I mean, stop at 3. Gosh.
she wants 14 kids........ 8 kids means they get lots more benefit so if they have 14 I bet they will be on near 75k a year lol :( :@
jackass
13-04-2010, 05:07 PM
Why would you even want 8 kids?
For the money.
Hecktix
13-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Good job Labour will cap their benefits when they refuse a job offer then.
Adamm
13-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Exactly lol.
Smits
13-04-2010, 05:10 PM
He says he'll get a job if he can keepm the lifestyle?
That means he'll never get a job the lazy ****.
AlexOC
13-04-2010, 05:13 PM
Do your benefits get cut if you reject a job!?
I said yes to that happening on that quiz thing that tells you what party is the one you suit best.
Hecktix
13-04-2010, 05:14 PM
Do your benefits get cut if you reject a job!?
I said yes to that happening on that quiz thing that tells you what party is the one you suit best.
Labour pledge to attempt to find everyone unemployed over a certain amount of time a job and if they refuse that job they get their benefits cut.
Stryderman
13-04-2010, 05:14 PM
Thats not lazy lool.
Your telling me youd rather be on literally 815£ a week and work 40 hours? Or not work 40 hours spend time with your family and still get the same amount of cash?
So seriously how is that lazy if they are getting the same money. Raising a family is alot harder than working
jrh2002
13-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Good job Labour will cap their benefits when they refuse a job offer then.
If this is the case how come they have NOT done this up to now? More false promises?......... I am still waiting for them to be tough on crime and the causes of crime....... I was going to post the article about over 40% of prisoners with Sky and a Games console in their cells.
alexxxxx
13-04-2010, 05:17 PM
utterly irresponsible people. what i can't get around my head is '£50/mo Sky' and then her complaining that it's 'really hard' - assuming that these statements are true, why don't you just stick to free tv!?
i'd hate to think of the living conditions of these lot because i wouldn't want to try and split 40k/yr between 9/10 people.
Hecktix
13-04-2010, 05:17 PM
If this is the case how come they have NOT done this up to now? More false promises?......... I am still waiting for them to be tough on crime and the causes of crime....... I was going to post the article about over 40% of prisoners with Sky and a Games console in their cells.
It's part of their 2010 manifesto, and in all honesty, it's the best proposal i've seen in the 2010 manifestos so far. I have all confidence that they will do the cutting benefits thing, the thing I doubt here is the fact they will find everyone a job, but they will find some jobs.
jackass
13-04-2010, 05:23 PM
Good job Labour will cap their benefits when they refuse a job offer then.
Labour are the ones that introduced the benefits system, and right now, while Labour are in power, it's a load of crap.
EDIT; Sorry, jrh2002 already brought this up.
jrh2002
13-04-2010, 05:28 PM
Thats not lazy lool.
Your telling me youd rather be on literally 815£ a week and work 40 hours? Or not work 40 hours spend time with your family and still get the same amount of cash?
So seriously how is that lazy if they are getting the same money. Raising a family is alot harder than working
If you have kids you cant afford to support then you are an idiot. If you sit on your fat arse getting handouts while you scrounge from the sytem that makes you lazy. Responsible couples work hard to afford to support their family be that one of them working or both working. The trouble with this country is idiots who think having kids is everybody elses responsibility.
i'd hate to think of the living conditions of these lot because i wouldn't want to try and split 40k/yr between 9/10 people.
Remember the free school dinners etc :o a lot more perks than is listed in the article are available.
It's part of their 2010 manifesto, and in all honesty, it's the best proposal i've seen in the 2010 manifestos so far. I have all confidence that they will do the cutting benefits thing, the thing I doubt here is the fact they will find everyone a job, but they will find some jobs.
But after 13 years they have still not carried out promises from when they got in to power :o and anybody who believes anything that involves snake eyes Mandelson should get a reality check :o If somebody else gets in to power and dont do as they promise I will be saying this about them so its not just Labour bashing :)
Jordy
13-04-2010, 05:42 PM
It's part of their 2010 manifesto, and in all honesty, it's the best proposal i've seen in the 2010 manifestos so far. I have all confidence that they will do the cutting benefits thing, the thing I doubt here is the fact they will find everyone a job, but they will find some jobs.What took them 13 years? It's too late now anyway, if they get jobs the tax payer will just end up paying for nursery and childminders etc, it's totally unworkable.
I also think your pathetic for -repping Undertaker for being "racist". You may well think that but you have to give him credit for defending his points and supporting a political party. It's not racist to agree with a political party. Unlike you, he actually posts in the forums regularly rather than appearing occasionally and then running off when they get "owned", he also doesn't stoop to the levels of -repping people like a complete and utter moron over their views, keep the debates on here. I also say this because a couple of months back you did the same to me, this should be out wide in the open and you are effectively ruining what is decent debating here in Current Affairs.
I am sure the source is OK considering these lovely people have given a lot of input for the story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html
This is the reason us tax payers get angry when we are all working hard to make ends meet and we have people like these :@ Having more babies to them is like somebody in full time employment getting a big payrise. This proves the benefits system is failing as its not an isolated case. We had some guy in Derbyshire with 16 kids and some of those were in their 20's with 2 - 3 kids each........ This family should have their children put up for adoption, the mother should be spaded like a dog and the couple should live in a hostel. People like this make me sick and until our benefits system gets a huge shake-up it will continue to happen with scum making this lifestyle a career choice. I can get angry about this but whos the idiot? Thats right I am the idiot for paying my tax in to a system that looks after the scum.
Can anybody defend this? I don't blame the family for doing it as its playing the system which benefits them but just shows how wrong the system is.Truly disgusting, it's also note worthy how unhappy the majority of the kids look. The guy in Derbyshire also has a wife and a girlfriend and a ferrari lmao.
It's got to the point where I don't feel angry at these people, I sort of agree with them, the system is there to be taken advantage of. If I could live a better lifestyle without working, I would do that, who wouldn't? The people I blame is the government, it's disgusting how flawed the benefits system is.
-:Undertaker:-
13-04-2010, 05:45 PM
It's part of their 2010 manifesto, and in all honesty, it's the best proposal i've seen in the 2010 manifestos so far. I have all confidence that they will do the cutting benefits thing, the thing I doubt here is the fact they will find everyone a job, but they will find some jobs.
They have had 13 years - more fool you if you believe them for the fourth time around, which brings me to the central point; why do you believe them for the fourth time around?
Alkaz
13-04-2010, 05:53 PM
''and Mercedes, two.''
So kind of them, to actually name one of their children after a car they bought via tax payers. I really do not understand the mentality of people like this. If the kids follow their parents lead then there could be: 8 x children mentioned + 8 partners + 8 children per = 90 people living off the state in one family and the parents as they will probably be wanting their state pension 10 years early or something.
MissAlice
13-04-2010, 08:41 PM
Mr Davey gave up working 9 years ago, which was before the 3rd child was born, he actually states he knew they would be better off living off the state. Not daft is he.
Most children look to their parents for role models. What does this way of living teach?
Mrs Davey has never had a full time job, yet she says she would if she could. That now would be ridiculous, as she is carrying their 8th child and would love to have as many as 14 children. Her work surely is at home raising her children and trying to be a mother.
Neither really have any intention of working for a living; there must be thousands upon thousands in our country who think just like them, maybe more.
The Labour Government should have dealt with this issue a long time ago, because if everyone had the same attitude, where would we be.
As to the Labour Government capping their benefits, it’s too little too late for families like this. What are the chances of Mr Davey finding a job that gives him an income greater than the benefits they currently receive?
The more children they keep producing, the longer they can keep taking from the system.
lazerman
13-04-2010, 09:00 PM
To be honest, labour had there chances, anyone voting for them becasue they think they gonna change is funny.
Black_Apalachi
15-04-2010, 10:18 AM
If I was getting 42 grand per year for free, I'd be driving better than a Merc.
Tintinnabulate
15-04-2010, 11:56 AM
'It's really hard,' said Mrs Davey, 29, who is seven months pregnant. 'We can't afford holidays and I don't want my kids living on a council estate and struggling like I have.
Shut the **** up. Stop having so many kids and get a blooming job! Cant afford holidays "/. Maybe if she hadn't had 8 children and both had full time jobs, they might be able to afford holidays. People such as these are disgusting. Thank God Labour will stop the benefits for ********s such as these and they can finally start working and know the true meaning of "its really hard".
Black_Apalachi
15-04-2010, 12:03 PM
Shut the **** up. Stop having so many kids and get a blooming job! Cant afford holidays "/. Maybe if she hadn't had 8 children and both had full time jobs, they might be able to afford holidays. People such as these are disgusting. Thank God Labour will stop the benefits for ********s such as these and they can finally start working and know the try meaning of "its really hard".
This. My mum has two children and a job and we've never been on holiday outside the UK and Ireland.
Snowing
15-04-2010, 12:20 PM
That skin disorder on that lad is the big mans way of telling them to get ******. Die you little **** and take yer fat **** of a mother with you.
-:Undertaker:-
15-04-2010, 03:25 PM
Shut the **** up. Stop having so many kids and get a blooming job! Cant afford holidays "/. Maybe if she hadn't had 8 children and both had full time jobs, they might be able to afford holidays. People such as these are disgusting. Thank God Labour will stop the benefits for ********s such as these and they can finally start working and know the true meaning of "its really hard".
Why did it take 13 years and a possible election defeat looming for Labour to promise this?
How can I or anybody else believe them when they broke their 2005 manifesto pledge of a referendum on EU reformal?
Tintinnabulate
15-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Why did it take 13 years and a possible election defeat looming for Labour to promise this?
How can I or anybody else believe them when they broke their 2005 manifesto pledge of a referendum on EU reformal?
Tell me how UKIP want to stop these people from being lazy ***** then?
Swearing always gets your point more across.
Quit whining, all of you, and stop being so personally incisive. Stop being so personally insulting. Political debates can sometimes lead to just plain "My party is bigger than yours." in a sense, but it just appears to me they ALWAYS lead to this on this forum. Undertaker and Jordy always talk fairly well together, and the debates between Undertaker and Alex are something out of a televised debate or a dance-off with political commentary.
I 'lurk' here way too often, and all I see is arguments and not debates about current affairs.
AgnesIO
17-04-2010, 10:25 AM
Anyone else noticed they are mainly all ginger too.
Joking, before anyone goes mad..
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Tbf it's not this families fault - its the ridiculous benefits system.
Special
17-04-2010, 10:33 AM
Anyone else noticed they are mainly all ginger too.
Joking, before anyone goes mad..
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Tbf it's not this families fault - its the ridiculous benefits system.
I disagree
How is it not their fault? Like Miss.Alice said, they aren't daft and both know what they're doing.
he quit his job for christ sake, tell me how it isn't his fault?
which leads me onto your claim that the benefit system is is ridiculous, this i do agree on
AgnesIO
17-04-2010, 11:07 AM
I disagree
How is it not their fault? Like Miss.Alice said, they aren't daft and both know what they're doing.
he quit his job for christ sake, tell me how it isn't his fault?
which leads me onto your claim that the benefit system is is ridiculous, this i do agree on
It's the governments fault for being mugs.
I don't agree they should get it, but they CAN which is the problem. If the benefits ytem actually worked they wouldn't be able to do this and they would have to work. I personally would hate to say I live off benefits, but while people can many people will - as some people don't get the gain people like me get from doing stuff for yourself.
GommeInc
17-04-2010, 11:13 AM
Urgh, I hate it when it's written out in this sort of way: "Oh, I find it so hard to cope! 7 children, with an eighth one on the way! Oh the humanity!" It's so sarcastic :/ Get a job, if not, lose some children. Simple. Benefits should at least keep you stable and not be used as a main income, whichs shows something is not right. They should only have enough for food and clothing, not luxuries.
Then again, there was a stupid newspaper article the other day in a local newspaper, with the title similar to "Man steals money from disabled niece and elderly grandmother and only has to pay back £1!" Then the article pretty much tears itself apart with the words "The money will soon shoot up and the court will have him pay more the moment he has a decent income and money."
Obviously, this is worse and unrelated, but I was so expecting similar results :P
The benefits system is just a huge joke, it doesn't really support you - it should only be used as a last resort. These people are clearly able to work, and giving them benefits is just feeding the craving of not needing to work, which anyone is capable of doing.
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