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H0BJ0B
19-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Anyone ever tried mephedrone?

Used it for the first time quite a few months ago, and done it quite a few times since.

Everything about the drug is good. The euphoria, the chattiness, the speed, etc.

I've only ever experienced one down from taking a lot in one night, but otherwise I've only ever experience good things whilst on it.

What do ya'll think of it, etc.?

kuzkasate
19-04-2010, 07:56 PM
Anyone ever tried mephedrone?

Used it for the first time quite a few months ago, and done it quite a few times since.

Everything about the drug is good. The euphoria, the chattiness, the speed, etc.

I've only ever experienced one down from taking a lot in one night, but otherwise I've only ever experience good things whilst on it.

What do ya'll think of it, etc.?

OMG Hey. Lol. You aint been on in ages, anyway before mods issue me another warning ill get on topic.

it sounds quite good lol. everyone thats tried it are like "yo man its mint yeh, u shud try it blud" so im probably gonna try it lol.

buttons
19-04-2010, 07:59 PM
lol had it 3 or 4 times
had the capsules first time n felt rather... saucy :eusa_whis then after 20 mins nothing special
second time was already drunk probably why it had a better effect n i thought "omg this is amazing". next few times was rubbish then every1 started dying n ****, not worth it. meow meow.

kuzkasate
19-04-2010, 08:03 PM
lol had it 3 or 4 times
had the capsules first time n felt rather... saucy :eusa_whis then after 20 mins nothing special
second time was already drunk probably why it had a better effect n i thought "omg this is amazing". next few times was rubbish then every1 started dying n ****, not worth it. meow meow.

its worth a shot. lol watch me die lol. just my bloody luck tho. i could do with an irish leprechaun guy, but your scottish and your sheep isnt much use to me

marriott0.01
19-04-2010, 08:19 PM
Mephedrone is illegal so I would never try it :) Also, you're not meant to talk about illegal activities I thought! :(

kuzkasate
19-04-2010, 08:26 PM
Mephedrone is illegal so I would never try it :) Also, you're not meant to talk about illegal activities I thought! :(

youve never tried anything illegal in your life?

tbh thats how it should be. we shudnt do illegal stuff. why do we do it? god knows.

Describe
19-04-2010, 08:39 PM
I got pressured into it a little and with generally all of my friends having tried it I didn't want to be left out.

I went all funny the first time, I just lay on the ground and I got mad shakes. I reckon my mate thought I was having a seizure or something but considering he was close to eating the ground I thought he over reacted. Either way, I've not had it in a good month now and it really is just another one of those highs, it's nothing special. I've never actually swallowed a capsule though because apparently they 'pop' in your stomach which can be painful. Always up the right and fight back the throat sore with alcohol.

I don't reckon I'll be doing them nowadays, I'll probably move onto the next fad.

Misawa
20-04-2010, 12:40 AM
What exciting, healthy lives you lead.

FlyingJesus
20-04-2010, 12:47 AM
It's a fun little drug and at a tenner a gram I wasn't gonna say no to trying it, but there's no point going for it now that it's been made a class B. Prices will rise, purity will fall, and there are better substances out there anyway. Unless I was sure of the purity (which of course I can't be as I don't manufacture it myself) I wouldn't do it now, especially not for a bumped up price.

Andeeh
20-04-2010, 07:39 PM
no, and i wouldn't want to try it either. Its pretty disgusting drug.

Smits
20-04-2010, 07:46 PM
No why would i wanna do that i only blow bubbles

Stryderman
20-04-2010, 09:00 PM
What exciting, healthy lives you lead.

Init lol, This is the sort of thing i used to tlk about when i were 15, mate u smoked green yet? yh bunked pse n got mashed!!!!!111

Now i dont see the point in any of it.

Swastika
20-04-2010, 10:58 PM
LOL@people thinking they're all grown up and too mature to talk about drugs.

i've had it once, was high as a kite for a while, it went away but my eyes were still wide open. bad comedown, couldn't sleep - bad stuff.
stimulant drugs are crap, weed forever. ;)

Misawa
20-04-2010, 11:14 PM
Thinking? I always had the sense not to dabble.

H0BJ0B
20-04-2010, 11:22 PM
lol had it 3 or 4 times
had the capsules first time n felt rather... saucy :eusa_whis then after 20 mins nothing special
second time was already drunk probably why it had a better effect n i thought "omg this is amazing". next few times was rubbish then every1 started dying n ****, not worth it. meow meow.

Everyone started dying because they were mixing it with **** and not controlling their use. If you know what you're doing (which is pretty easy to do), you're not likely to die.


Mephedrone is illegal so I would never try it :) Also, you're not meant to talk about illegal activities I thought! :(

Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral/shouldn't be done? Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence. Perhaps buy some weed - it'll start you off (Y).


What exciting, healthy lives you lead.

If only you knew what you were missing. I'm willing to give up a bit of my health to experience everything you do whilst on drugs like cannabis, MDMA, mephedrone, etc.


It's a fun little drug and at a tenner a gram I wasn't gonna say no to trying it, but there's no point going for it now that it's been made a class B. Prices will rise, purity will fall, and there are better substances out there anyway. Unless I was sure of the purity (which of course I can't be as I don't manufacture it myself) I wouldn't do it now, especially not for a bumped up price.

Indeed. I stocked up before the legislation was put through for it to become a class B drug. On-line was where the 99.9% pure, cheap in bulk **** was. But I'm looking forward to new developments. I'd like to get even more intense effects when they come out!


no, and i wouldn't want to try it either. Its pretty disgusting drug.

Why'd you say that?


Init lol, This is the sort of thing i used to tlk about when i were 15, mate u smoked green yet? yh bunked pse n got mashed!!!!!111

Now i dont see the point in any of it.

Exactly what Jayme said tbh - "LOL@people thinking they're all grown up and too mature to talk about drugs."


LOL@people thinking they're all grown up and too mature to talk about drugs.

i've had it once, was high as a kite for a while, it went away but my eyes were still wide open. bad comedown, couldn't sleep - bad stuff.
stimulant drugs are crap, weed forever. ;)

Weed's good man. I've only ever had one come down from it when I took an insane amount of top ups. I like to vary though. Monging out a cannabis high is fun to do on a regular basis, with stimulant drugs every now and then for change.

Misawa
20-04-2010, 11:39 PM
I'm missing absolutely nothing. The people who take drugs are the ones missing something. I'm gaining by straying away. I'm happier than any druggy in my narcotic-free lifestyle.

Soy
21-04-2010, 12:09 AM
some black guy was following me round in a club asking me for it once

H0BJ0B
21-04-2010, 01:07 AM
I'm missing absolutely nothing. The people who take drugs are the ones missing something. I'm gaining by straying away. I'm happier than any druggy in my narcotic-free lifestyle.

By default, that doesn't make sense. You are missing the chance to feel euphoria, for example.

Why is it that people who take drugs are missing something? I don't understand.

And your last sentence is rather subjective, especially since you've never been a "druggy" yourself.

Misawa
21-04-2010, 01:21 AM
I'm living the dream. I feel great every day. Why would I want a synthetic high that damages my health? Senseless. You will look back on your drug taking days when you're older and think how juvenile you were.

FlyingJesus
21-04-2010, 08:37 AM
This debate doesn't need to happen. It's a lifestyle choice and if people have a stance on it either way that's up to them and it should be left at that. I don't "recommend" drugs because that's nonsense, but I do suggest that if people are going to get into it they should do their research first so they know exactly what they're up against - every single mephedrone related death I've read about seems down to people being utter fools and mixing it with a cocktail of other drugs and not knowing what they're doing to themselves. Whether you personally choose to use various substances for hedonistic purposes or not is a personal choice and should really be kept personal.

Adamm
21-04-2010, 09:34 AM
I'm missing absolutely nothing. The people who take drugs are the ones missing something. I'm gaining by straying away. I'm happier than any druggy in my narcotic-free lifestyle.
For once, I am in agreement.

Catzsy
21-04-2010, 12:10 PM
Everyone started dying because they were mixing it with **** and not controlling their use. If you know what you're doing (which is pretty easy to do), you're not likely to die.



Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral/shouldn't be done? Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence. Perhaps buy some weed - it'll start you off (Y).



If only you knew what you were missing. I'm willing to give up a bit of my health to experience everything you do whilst on drugs like cannabis, MDMA, mephedrone, etc.




Indeed. I stocked up before the legislation was put through for it to become a class B drug. On-line was where the 99.9% pure, cheap in bulk **** was. But I'm looking forward to new developments. I'd like to get even more intense effects when they come out!



Why'd you say that?



Exactly what Jayme said tbh - "LOL@people thinking they're all grown up and too mature to talk about drugs."



Weed's good man. I've only ever had one come down from it when I took an insane amount of top ups. I like to vary though. Monging out a cannabis high is fun to do on a regular basis, with stimulant drugs every now and then for change.


I have to say without exception this is the worst advice I have ever seen posted on the forum in fact in my view it is shows very poor judgment & is reckless considering how young some of the forum members are. I agree with F/J, Misawa and Adam on this one. Up to you whether or not you take drugs but encouraging others some who are children not withstanding that just because it doesn't have any negative effects on you may not have some disastrous effects on others? :@ It's not cool and it's not clever.

H0BJ0B
21-04-2010, 12:24 PM
I have to say without exception this is the worst advice I have ever seen posted on the forum in fact in my view it is shows very poor judgment & is reckless considering how young some of the forum members are. I agree with F/J, Misawa and Adam on this one. Up to you whether or not you take drugs but encouraging others some who are children not withstanding that just because it doesn't have any negative effects on you may not have some disastrous effects on others? :@ It's not cool and it's not clever.

I wasn't really providing advice, more points of rebuttal. And furthermore, I never tried to be cool, nor did I try to be clever. FANX BABEZ.

Misawa
21-04-2010, 12:33 PM
By taking drugs you were trying to be both cool and clever, just like how kids start smoking, yet fast forward a few years and they want to give up the cigarettes and drugs more than anything because they live in ruin where they no longer want drugs that aren't even pure ruining their lives. There is nothing good about drugs and you are a fool if you think otherwise.

Adamm
21-04-2010, 12:34 PM
I wasn't really providing advice, more points of rebuttal. And furthermore, I never tried to be cool, nor did I try to be clever. FANX BABEZ.
You kind of contradicted yourself with the last two words of that quote.

You are a threat to children, brainwashing and all that. You should know how easily they can be influenced as most sprites are incapable of making an informed decision on anything without resorting to their peers for 'advice'.

Catzsy
21-04-2010, 12:44 PM
I wasn't really providing advice, more points of rebuttal. And furthermore, I never tried to be cool, nor did I try to be clever. FANX BABEZ.

The part in bold below certainly seems to be encouraging others to use it to me?


Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral/shouldn't be done? Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence. Perhaps buy some weed - it'll start you off (Y).

Misawa
21-04-2010, 12:49 PM
"Experiences you'll cherish for life". That is one of the most hilariously pathetic things I have ever read in my life. People need to grow up and get a grip on life rather than snorting rat poison and smoking dangerously impure skunk.

Smits
21-04-2010, 12:52 PM
You kind of contradicted yourself with the last two words of that quote.

You are a threat to children, brainwashing and all that. You should know how easily they can be influenced as most sprites are incapable of making an informed decision on anything without resorting to their peers for 'advice'.

I thought that about the thanx babe.

Anyway, i'll admit, i have smoked weed, and i do enjoy doing it when i'm on a night out, camping for example. But this is rare. Even still, wouldnt encourage anybody to take it and wouldnt realyl say it's good to do so. It's my choice and thats that.

Anything else i won't take because you pretty much do not know what the effects will be on you.

FlyingJesus
21-04-2010, 02:58 PM
There is nothing good about drugs and you are a fool if you think otherwise.

This I have to disagree with - I have no problem with you not wanting to be a part of drug culture and think it's great that you've made a decision about it, but if there was truly nothing good about it then no-one would bother with them. You are definitely entitled to the view that the cons outweigh the pros, but similarly informed users are entitled to their personal preferences and priorities.
That said, there's sadly a fairly thick line between informed users and foolish abusers, whom I categorise completely separately and the likes of which can unfortunately be found in this very thread. Feel free to attack such people as they are usually utter ****.


"Experiences you'll cherish for life". That is one of the most hilariously pathetic things I have ever read in my life.

This I do agree with, as his quote looks like some kind of advert for a lifestyle he assumes he is pioneering, which seems to often be the case with kids who've just gotten into something and decided that buying lots makes them an expert. If anyone cherishes a drug incident for life then it would really have to be something that you could have done without the drugs, as nothing I've come across yet is entirely life changing by itself. An utterly daft thing to say on his part, and shows that he has entirely the wrong attitude to drugs.

buttons
21-04-2010, 05:34 PM
By taking drugs you were trying to be both cool and clever, just like how kids start smoking, yet fast forward a few years and they want to give up the cigarettes and drugs more than anything because they live in ruin where they no longer want drugs that aren't even pure ruining their lives. There is nothing good about drugs and you are a fool if you think otherwise.
yeah deffo, i started thinking i was cool now i keep taking stuff because yes there are good EFFECTS (obviously come with bad effects, just like alcohol) of some drugs. you don't take any because you've either never tried it or have and didn't like it. that's fine, one bad trip doesn't mean all drugs are gonna make you like that, hence why i tried a few different drugs to see what i like and don't like. same with alcohol, yeah sure drugs are worse blahblahblah we get it. not everyone is addicted, i drink every FEW weekends and maybe have some mephedrone, pills or weed. not in exccess though, drugs are like everything else, good in moderation. some of us actually know our limits and what we can take, same as alcohol. have i brainwashed anyone into taking drugs yet?

You are a threat to children, brainwashing and all that. You should know how easily they can be influenced as most sprites are incapable of making an informed decision on anything without resorting to their peers for 'advice'.
yeah, right. although i don't agree with it, one guy on the internets view on drugs is enough to sway younger people to take advice over their parents/siblings/teachers warnings? i don't think so, their fault if they do.

"Experiences you'll cherish for life". That is one of the most hilariously pathetic things I have ever read in my life. People need to grow up and get a grip on life rather than snorting rat poison and smoking dangerously impure skunk.
my way of life is - as clique as it sounds - to live in the moment, try most things at least once (;)) and not care. life really IS too short. i've had some good times with drugs, i've had some bad. same with alcohol, same without any. i could die any minute, high, drunk or sober and man i'd be annoyed if i died without having tried anything xD obviously some people do take the piss but in my experience the ones who brag are the ones who've just started taking or have once/twice before. after a while it means nothing. some people need to get out of their arses, just cause we take drugs doesn't mean we're like the ones you see walking bout stoned 24/7. if you don't take drugs that's great, good for you but looking down on people for it is ridiculous. can see where you're coming from though, most people don't care if i do cause i don't brag bout it, i'll just talk about any drugs that come up. oh well.

H0BJ0B
21-04-2010, 06:44 PM
It's sad because I know that non-drug users will never get to experience what I have. The bonds you make with friends, the experiences you share, and everything about the drug taking I do is so great and unreal, you'd never understand without being through it. Perhaps you're getting the wrong side of what I'm trying to say - I go out and do drugs with my friends and because of that I have found such a strong settlement in the group I'm in. It's not just about the drugs. It's about the community around them.

Misawa - what can I say? You have an absolutist view and so do I. They happen to be complete opposites. I won't be changing my mind, you won't be changing yours. Personally, I'd say you're the fool. But again, saying that would lead to a flare of arguments against it. "People need to grow up and get a grip on life rather than snorting rat poison and smoking dangerously impure skunk." All your posts, especially that, show how pathetically ignorant you are. You, having never experienced drugs and being so anti-, are so naive about everything to do with them. I can't help you feel my point of view, but I know I was EXACTLY like you were before I started blazing. Just look at life. How does doing drugs mean I've lost grip of it? I'm enjoying doing them. I'm not taking it for granted. I don't live my life to live for as long as I can. I live my life to love it. To enjoy it. To have FUN (spelt F-U-N). I suppose we can sum up our views like so - you live for sanctity of life, I live for quality of life. And by saying that, I'm not saying I need drugs to keep me happy and have fun - so please, no one bring up that bull****.

Adamm - I didn't contradict myself. I used the past tense followed by the present. FANX BABEZ. "You are a threat to children, brainwashing and all that. You should know how easily they can be influenced as most sprites are incapable of making an informed decision on anything without resorting to their peers for 'advice'." That's the biggest load of crap I've heard in a while. I'm a youth leader. I'm no threat to children. I know from when I was a child, that someone saying drugs are good would not make me go out and try some. I'm sure if you think about yourself a bit younger, you'd be exactly the same.

Catzy - it's a shame it appeared to you that way. The sentence was merely an opinionated stance to my previous point, and in no way was meant in an advisory way (which can further be seen by the use of "Perhaps" and the jovial clause "it'll start you off (Y)".

Jesus - "If anyone cherishes a drug incident for life then it would really have to be something that you could have done without the drugs, as nothing I've come across yet is entirely life changing by itself. An utterly daft thing to say on his part, and shows that he has entirely the wrong attitude to drugs." I guess everyone has just read what I've typed completely wrong. Maybe I need to type more bluntly. Or perhaps it's because Misawa decided to cut that bit out and from there everyone misread it. My post didn't say the drugs gave you the experiences you'd love to cherish. My post said, and I quote: "Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence." My post CLEARLY says that the drugs OPEN YOUR EYES to experiences you'll cherish. Again, as I said previously, it's the community, the friends, the settlement, the conversations, the experiences whilst doing drugs, NOT THE DRUG ITSELF. I'm surprised from your viewpoints you've been expressing that you'd be one to suggest I have the wrong attitude to drugs. I know exactly what I'm doing with drugs, I know I won't go into anything without researching, I know I'm still above everyone in my year and centre of education intellectually, I know I have an extremely healthy social life outside of the drug world also. So, an utterly daft thing to say on your part would be more appropriate I guess. I suppose it's virtually impossible to show any of you what it's like over the internet as I'm trying, but I'm telling you for one that I am definitely not one of those who has the "entirely wrong attitude to drugs."

Misawa
21-04-2010, 09:47 PM
If you can't have fun or a good time with friends without being high then that is really sad.

Nemo
21-04-2010, 09:56 PM
I'm not saying I need drugs to keep me happy and have fun - so please, no one bring up that bull****.



If you can't have fun or a good time with friends without being high then that is really sad.

Just sayin'

Misawa
21-04-2010, 10:01 PM
He contradicted himself.

Swastika
21-04-2010, 10:53 PM
Misawa, will you please just get out the thread if your not going to accept peoples views.
Its totally upto yourself if you choose to dabble with drugs or not, good on you for not taking a drug in your life, but don't look down to people who use them socially or to experiment, people who are NOT addicted and try them recreationally.
I look down on smackheads and addicts, personally i think its their own fault, but i don't look down on my mates who go out at the weekend and get a bag of cocaine. Good for them, they're enjoying themselves and are not addicted. There's a difference between getting a bag of green or coke just to act cool or do it so you can interact with your buddies and getting a bag of coke or green at the weekend to have a good time and have a laugh.
Personally i think people need to have an open mind about drugs, not just shrug it off, in most places smoking weed is socially accepted however i agree injecting heroin isn't. Most people in the world have smoked a doobie to be honest, US prestident Obama has, numerous celebrities have, conservatives leader has (forget his name LOL) - its just a part of growing up and experimenting.

I hope you don't just say "shut up you hippie" or something outrageous as a reply, think about things - and fair play to you for staying away from drugs, not too many people have.

Misawa
21-04-2010, 11:14 PM
Drugs AREN'T a part of growing up and I think you'll find a lot more people have abstained from narcotics than have dabbled. You're fine with your friends going out with cocaine? Jesus... They can die just from snorting it once. That's messed up.

Adamm
21-04-2010, 11:17 PM
Jayme, are you going to accept our views? That's the thing about opinions, there's more than yours.

I have never tried drugs and I never will. I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat? Yes, HOBJOB, you were acting, in this thread, like drugs are normal and that everyone should do them. You were also acting 'cool' and you said "fanx babez" which contradicts what you said (that you were mature).

Nemo
21-04-2010, 11:23 PM
Jayme, are you going to accept our views? That's the thing about opinions, there's more than yours.

I have never tried drugs and I never will. I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat? Yes, HOBJOB, you were acting, in this thread, like drugs are normal and that everyone should do them. You were also acting 'cool' and you said "fanx babez" which contradicts what you said (that you were mature).Its a thread about drugs. a drug is the title. Dont like drugs, dont click. How much common sense does it require for one to figure out that?

Adamm
21-04-2010, 11:26 PM
I'm posting about drugs. It's related.

Find a rule that stops me.

LuketheDuke
21-04-2010, 11:43 PM
Ive been on meth a fair few times and its a pretty cool buzz, it doesnt send to me to other places like ecstasy can do and it isnt a placebo high so its a nice middleground drug. Saying that come downs can be awful and it makes your mouth and nose taste like metal. Now its illegal i imagine il re-evaluate taking it again.

And at the guy on the pro drug rant, if you need to be high to get on with your mates I suggest you get new mates.

H0BJ0B
21-04-2010, 11:49 PM
Adamm, I think you've got to that stage where you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.


I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat?
What are you going to do all your life for god's sake!? Are you never going to go sky diving? Are you never going to visit a fun fair? Heck, practically everything endangers your life somewhat and are paid for. The reason you'll do them is because it is more morally and socially acceptable. Or perhaps because it's illegal, you could never do drugs because that would be so bad. You know, breaking the law and that.

And if we're going to bring up maturity, perhaps you're not the best person to talk about it. From your posts, I seem far, far, far more mature than you were/will be at my age.

Luke - perhaps you should read everything before commenting. One, because this is a drone thread, not meth. And two, because no one has been ranting about the need to be high to get on with their mates?

Misawa - what lNaughtynemo said.

Nemo
21-04-2010, 11:49 PM
I'm posting about drugs. It's related.

Find a rule that stops me.
i just dont see why you expect to get your views loved, when u post in a thread aimed at drug users. it just doesnt make any sense

IceNineKills
21-04-2010, 11:56 PM
I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

H0BJ0B
21-04-2010, 11:57 PM
With all due sensitivity and respect, the guy mixed five *Removed* drugs, what did he expect!?


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

IceNineKills
22-04-2010, 12:00 AM
An expencive night out lol.

FlyingJesus
22-04-2010, 12:58 AM
It's sad because I know that non-drug users will never get to experience what I have. The bonds you make with friends, the experiences you share, and everything about the drug taking I do is so great and unreal, you'd never understand without being through it.

I'm a recreational drug user (when I can afford to be) and as much as I enjoy it, the best things about friendships do not and should not require anything but your own supply of endorphins. Yes, you can have plenty of good times on drugs, and that's fine, but to suggest drug-taking as a hugely life changing experience like you seem to be doing doesn't quite fit.


Or perhaps it's because Misawa decided to cut that bit out and from there everyone misread it. My post didn't say the drugs gave you the experiences you'd love to cherish. My post said, and I quote: "Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence." My post CLEARLY says that the drugs OPEN YOUR EYES to experiences you'll cherish.

If you suggest that you need the drugs to "open your eyes" to the experiences then that amounts to the same thing - you're still saying it no matter what order you put the words in.


I'm surprised from your viewpoints you've been expressing that you'd be one to suggest I have the wrong attitude to drugs. I know exactly what I'm doing with drugs, I know I won't go into anything without researching, I know I'm still above everyone in my year and centre of education intellectually, I know I have an extremely healthy social life outside of the drug world also. So, an utterly daft thing to say on your part would be more appropriate I guess. I suppose it's virtually impossible to show any of you what it's like over the internet as I'm trying, but I'm telling you for one that I am definitely not one of those who has the "entirely wrong attitude to drugs."

My view on drugs is that everyone should be free to experiment if they so wish, but that it should be an entirely personal choice (as I've said before) and no-one should attempt to interfere with someone elses ideals concerning whatever substances are floating about unless someone is in actual danger or their activites are affecting others negatively. Personally I don't think there's anything more annoying than kids talking about how much they love the drugs they do - it ranks up there with people who count their drinks so that they can tell you all about how much they had in the morning. Informed discussion of the effects is fine, but as you're claiming that it's "impossible" to relate your experiences properly that's obviously not what's going on here. You are openly advertising drugs as an unmissable miracle and making suggestions to people about taking them - even to the point of attacking people for not taking drugs - which is clearly not compliant with my views, so not really sure what you're surprised about.


Drugs AREN'T a part of growing up and I think you'll find a lot more people have abstained from narcotics than have dabbled. You're fine with your friends going out with cocaine? Jesus... They can die just from snorting it once. That's messed up.

Narcotics probably isn't the right term to be using, as none of the drugs mentioned (and certainly not mephedrone, which is a cathinone) are narcotic. On the point though, I'm fine with friends doing drugs as long as they're informed and know what they're doing. Cocaine isn't really a problem because none of us can afford it anyway, and I'm not really that big on it because it's simply too little for the price you pay even when I do have money to burn. I feel I'm back to my old point about users vs abusers.


What are you going to do all your life for god's sake!? Are you never going to go sky diving? Are you never going to visit a fun fair? Heck, practically everything endangers your life somewhat and are paid for. The reason you'll do them is because it is more morally and socially acceptable. Or perhaps because it's illegal, you could never do drugs because that would be so bad. You know, breaking the law and that.

How very rebellious, goading someone for not wanting to break the law. If that is his reasoning (or even a part of it) then that's up to him and he should be commended for sticking to his principles, rather than trying to pull the big move by showing contempt for the law and law-abiding peoples.


Luke - perhaps you should read everything before commenting. One, because this is a drone thread, not meth.

He mistyped meph as meth - you can tell this by reading his post and deducing that he is describing both the effects and legality of mephedrone. Gotta love irony.

Swastika
22-04-2010, 07:33 AM
Jayme, are you going to accept our views? That's the thing about opinions, there's more than yours.

I have never tried drugs and I never will. I don't see the point, at all. I can have a good time without them so why should I spend god knows how much to endanger my life somewhat? Yes, HOBJOB, you were acting, in this thread, like drugs are normal and that everyone should do them. You were also acting 'cool' and you said "fanx babez" which contradicts what you said (that you were mature).

Yes my friend, i do accept your views. I totally understand if somebody doesn't want to go near drugs and i do NOT pressure people into it, its 100% their choice and i don't encourage drug taking what so ever.


I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

I'm realy sorry to hear that pal, you've had a hard time.
Without sounding insensitive, your friend had a cocktail of drugs that really only could've ended two ways - death or a trip to E&A.
Still though, nobody should have to loose friends, im sorry for you man.

Catzsy
22-04-2010, 07:44 AM
I am fully against drugs now. Last year I lost 3 close mates and a cusion(sp) through drugs. I used to take cocaine, speed, MDMA etc but gave it all up when my best friend commited suiside because he was too addicted to cocaine. My other 2 friends used drugs to overcome their guilt for his death and one passed away sniffing glue. 3 weeks ago my friend died on a drug binge. He had Meow Meow, Cocaine, Ketamine, MDMA and crack in his system and he died from a heart attack.

I don't even like my friends smoking weed when I'm around. I'm not going to preech you all to not do drugs as I used to do it before but I've had a serious wakeup call.

This is the post to take notice of - I too have lost a friend to drugs. It happens a great deal around here. :(


With all due sensitivity and respect, the guy mixed five *Removed* drugs, what did he expect!?

Did you see he lost 3 mates and a cousin not just one who mixed some drugs up. That's 4 people that he knows that have died from drugs. That's an horrendus waste of life. I do believe that drugs alter the level of perception and judgment. What maybe okay for one is most definitely not okay for another. Also you cannot compare the amount of people who die from skydiving or going to funfares - there could be no comparison. People die from the effects of drugs every day. It's a cliched argument to try and give people a 'legitimate' reason to take them. The extremely negative effects drugs has on our society should not be brushed away in such a flippant manner.

Adamm
22-04-2010, 09:32 AM
See, HOBJOB, I respect Jayme because he's not singing praises from the hills about drugs because it does more harm than good.

Skydiving is a bit different to taking illegal substances. I really question your outlook on drugs, I really do. I'm not posting in this thread until you grow up and actually realise what taking drugs involves and everything to do with it.

I hardly take this forum seriously anymore, HOBJOB, which is why most of my posts are nonsense but on specific topics such as this, I will express my viewpoint. I am arguing, yes, because this is my opinion on drugs and 'mephadrone' which is what the thread it about, yes? If you didn't want two sides to an argument maybe you shouldn't of started a thread on a forum...

I am mature when I need to be, I'm 18, don't try and undermine me either. I don't have a problem with drug users or smokers as long as they don't do it in my face and/or complain about lack of money/motivation/etc to me.

leah
22-04-2010, 03:51 PM
I think you're a complete idiot :)
gonna be dealing next are you?
pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
Have a nice life Junkie

Andeeh
22-04-2010, 03:59 PM
Everyone started dying because they were mixing it with **** and not controlling their use. If you know what you're doing (which is pretty easy to do), you're not likely to die.



Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's immoral/shouldn't be done? Drugs can open your eyes to things you would have never seen before, to experiences you'll cherish for your life, and they feel so damn good whilst under the influence. Perhaps buy some weed - it'll start you off (Y).



If only you knew what you were missing. I'm willing to give up a bit of my health to experience everything you do whilst on drugs like cannabis, MDMA, mephedrone, etc.



Indeed. I stocked up before the legislation was put through for it to become a class B drug. On-line was where the 99.9% pure, cheap in bulk **** was. But I'm looking forward to new developments. I'd like to get even more intense effects when they come out!



Why'd you say that?



Exactly what Jayme said tbh - "LOL@people thinking they're all grown up and too mature to talk about drugs."



Weed's good man. I've only ever had one come down from it when I took an insane amount of top ups. I like to vary though. Monging out a cannabis high is fun to do on a regular basis, with stimulant drugs every now and then for change.

Because its something that has never appealed, all the scum around here do it and its disgusting and dont have a clue what could have gone in to it

Swastika
22-04-2010, 04:55 PM
See, HOBJOB, I respect Jayme because he's not singing praises from the hills about drugs because it does more harm than good.


Yeah, i think HOBJOB has gone abit too far with the whole drugs thing. I've used quite a few drugs for recreational purposes, i was addicted in no way at all, solely for having a fun time. I don't do drugs anymore, but if somebody offered me abit of a joint, i wouldn't say no. I think the people who do or have taken drugs such as myself, HOBJOB and FlyingJesus need to tell people how it is, not to go out and get started on cannabis LOL.
I respect FlyingJesus for basically telling it how it is, but im abit dubious about HOBJOB's views, telling somebody to go and take drugs is a big no no for me.

I hope everybody against drugs see's that we're not all idiots trying to act cool or whatever by dabbling with substances.

Grig
26-04-2010, 01:53 PM
I've actually not seen someone start promoting drugs on a forum. Sure, I did do a bit of weed, I do it on very rare ocassions and just as a top up to myself being drunk- but beyond weed I wouldn't go. It even looks like 'addiction' with you now Danny- there are ten fold more negatives that positives in every other drug. In the long run more hardcore drugs such as cocaine etc. have more dire phyiscal and psychological effects.

Here is an effect example for cocaine; 'Increases heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature, and sweating. Increases speed of respiration, dilates the pupils, decreased sleep and appetite.' Such things could lead to strokes, heart attacks if your body doesn't handle it in the correct way.

If it was in anyway good it would have been more used than it is now, but it in quite simple terms isn't.

Stefy09
26-04-2010, 11:57 PM
Indeed. I stocked up before the legislation was put through for it to become a class B drug. On-line was where the 99.9% pure, cheap in bulk **** was. But I'm looking forward to new developments. I'd like to get even more intense effects when they come out!

God I've been waiting to reply to this *** post. Hey you stocked up so it doesn't matter that it's banned! and after acting like the people who get the stuff banned, now you can't wait for new stuff to come out so you can do the same. The thing you don't understand is that meph has destroyed legals. 99% of all legals out were cathinones and now they're all banned. But the new thing now is Naphyrone. You can get it online. Please buy it and take a BIG line okay? I heard the bigger the line, the less chance you'll have at having a NDE. It may be of your liking but just don't haunt me if you take my advice kk

FlyingJesus
27-04-2010, 02:21 AM
Naphyrone I'm steering clear of personally, looks horrific. Apparently it's really cheap to manufacture too so wouldn't be surprised if a load of it's put into the "mephedrone" that dealers are going to be putting out now, with hiked up prices and ridiculous ill-effects. Would literally rather snort a line of plaster of Paris and then take a shower upside down, it'd probably leave me feeling healthier.

On the subject of cathinone bans, are you (or anyone) aware of why khat is still legal? Never bothered to try it so it might just be too crap to go after but I'm fairly sure that's where you get the cathinone from in the first place before it's mixed about, so seems odd that you can still get it without a problem.

Stefy09
27-04-2010, 03:25 AM
Pretty obvious why tbh. You don't and probably never will see people at clubs or whatever chewing horrible tasting leaves for over half an hour. Khat will never be popular and once the cathinone has been extracted from it then it's illegal so the only way to take it is to chew. But if the media want it banned then we'll have to wait and see for a burst of "khat is gonna kill everyone" articles.

You should try it though, I've heard good things about it. Only down is chewing vile tasting leaves for ages.

leah
28-04-2010, 06:17 PM
I've actually not seen someone start promoting drugs on a forum. Sure, I did do a bit of weed, I do it on very rare ocassions and just as a top up to myself being drunk- but beyond weed I wouldn't go. It even looks like 'addiction' with you now Danny- there are ten fold more negatives that positives in every other drug. In the long run more hardcore drugs such as cocaine etc. have more dire phyiscal and psychological effects.

Here is an effect example for cocaine; 'Increases heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature, and sweating. Increases speed of respiration, dilates the pupils, decreased sleep and appetite.' Such things could lead to strokes, heart attacks if your body doesn't handle it in the correct way.

If it was in anyway good it would have been more used than it is now, but it in quite simple terms isn't.
don't say that, he'll probably find that description appealing lol :(

God I've been waiting to reply to this *** post. Hey you stocked up so it doesn't matter that it's banned! and after acting like the people who get the stuff banned, now you can't wait for new stuff to come out so you can do the same. The thing you don't understand is that meph has destroyed legals. 99% of all legals out were cathinones and now they're all banned. But the new thing now is Naphyrone. You can get it online. Please buy it and take a BIG line okay? I heard the bigger the line, the less chance you'll have at having a NDE. It may be of your liking but just don't haunt me if you take my advice kk
okay admittedly he is being a complete tool but theres no need to go quite so far...

Stefy09
28-04-2010, 06:35 PM
too far would be me not telling him that he shouldn't take my advice

Technologic
28-04-2010, 07:54 PM
its alright, had it a few times. ****** me up less than e....

jackass
28-04-2010, 07:58 PM
There are a lot of naive people in this thread.

Stefy09
28-04-2010, 09:17 PM
There are a lot of naive people in this thread.

what bout u or are you talking about the antidrugkrew

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