FIFA10 or PES10 - Which do you prefer and why?

[Yupt]

What's your opinion on the two games?

FIFA10
Pros
I prefer the in game, game play. It's more free and feel more like real football.
Fully Licensed, has all the teams.
Better online gameplay
More realistic manager mode to the PES equivalent (Master League)
Commentary is original and you don't often hear the same thing over and over
Cons
It's too complicated in the menu's etc, what's with all the tiny writing and blackness, it makes things complicated.
As far as I can see, you can't create your own team
Doesn't have official UEFA champions league or Europa League

PES10
Pros
Menu's are dead simple to use, even for those who have never played it before
Seems quicker than FIFA, it never lags unlike FIFA (for me anyway)
Can edit almost anything.
Licensed UEFA Champions and Europa league
You can quickly and easily create your own team
Cons
Doesn't have nearly as many teams as FIFA has.
Game play is too easy, you can give your defenders the ball, and they'll gas it down the wing and score with ease.
The commentary is boring and repetitive
Online play is awful.

What's your opinion?

[Adamm]

This had been done to death.

FIFA.

You find the FIFA menus complicated? LOL.

Lag is down to your connection :L

[Andeeh]

Fifa is the more dominant series and this is coming from an ex pes fan boy.

[Oleh]

The fact pes owns the rights to uefa and europa suggests why fifa doesnt have it

[CJW93]

I wad a pes fan until 2008. Fifa is king, the last great Pes was 6

[Shar]

FIFA 10 ftw
PES is boring

[Yupt]

This had been done to death.

FIFA.

You find the FIFA menus complicated? LOL.

Lag is down to your connection :L

When i say the menu is complicated, im talking bout how its all so small font and black. Whereas pes is just simple big words, and easy to use - you could get an unborn baby to test it and s/he'd find it easy.

[Smits]

fifa all the way

[brandon]

I wad a pes fan until 2008. Fifa is king, the last great Pes was 6

Got to agree with that. PES declined ever since they changed it big time for the next-gen consoles

[FlyingJesus]

PES for the master league, it's all I play. I do agree that the series has been going downhill since 6 though (which was incredible and I still play that from time to time) but 10 does seem to be a vast improvement over 08 and 09 at least

[Adamm]

When i say the menu is complicated, im talking bout how its all so small font and black. Whereas pes is just simple big words, and easy to use - you could get an unborn baby to test it and s/he'd find it easy.
Are you 5 years old?

I swear PES's key demographics is young kids and those hard of learning.

[Yupt]

Are you 5 years old?

I swear PES's key demographics is young kids and those hard of learning.

If you think simplicity is for those of hard learning, then I worry about you. I'd much rather it was simple and easy to use. Fifa looks like it has put in way too much effort of its menu's. I play both PES and FIFA, and I prefer FIFA gameplay, but the PES simplicity makes up for its second place gameplay. Respect my opinion.. :l

[Gibs960]

On PES the names are different, and then logo/crest is different. Fifa 10 is more realistic :)

[Adamm]

FIFA's menus are organised and easy to find everything I really can't see your point, I'm sorry.