Noah's Ark remains 'discovered.'

[kuzkasate]

A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical Christians said they had uncovered remnants of Noah's Ark on its legendary mountain resting place in Turkey.

Noah's Ark Ministries International, a Hong Kong-based documentary outfit, said they recovered wooden specimens from a structure on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey that carbon dating proved the material was 4800 years old, around the same time the ark is said to have been afloat.

"It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it," said Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker.


What do you guys think? I think its pretty god damn cool!

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[Nixt]

A bunch of evangelical Christians (no bias there then) find some wood that happens to be dated back to the time the ark was supposedly made (as if there wasn't much wood in those days) at the place it supposedly landed.

Yeah, totally believable :P

[kuzkasate]

A bunch of evangelical Christians (no bias there then) find some wood that happens to be dated back to the time the ark was supposedly made (as if there wasn't much wood in those days) at the place it supposedly landed.

Yeah, totally believable :P

They say they are 99.9% sure, so yes, believable in my eyes.

[Stryderman]

Yeh but that all depends on your beliefs imo. If you believe in god etc then your going to think its true and if you dont then your not.

Im not religious an i think its aload of junk. They will be finding small animal bones near there now an sayin its the animals which went on 2 by 2

[Nixt]

They say they are 99.9% sure, so yes, believable in my eyes.

They say it's 99.9% sure it's real because they want to believe. It's a bit of wood they have managed to date back to the time the ark was supposedly created (depending on your beliefs). Even if I did believe, I would want more solid evidence than the fact they've found some wood. I could find some wood at the area Jesus was supposedly crucified and claim it was his crucifix. The fact it's dated back to the same time is not evidence enough.

[Smits]

Yeah but why else would wood be there?

I dont believe it though.

[Nixt]

Yeah but why else would wood be there?

I dont believe it though.

Wood gets to places. It could be any number of things. For example a man, his donkey and a cart could have been crossing the mountain or even visiting the mountain and it got destroyed. Who knows? There are plenty of reasonable explanations (one of them an Ark) but nothing definitive to tell you exactly what it is - until they can provide irrefutable evidence to say it was an ark, I fail to see how they can be 99.9% sure it was an ark.

[Hitman]

Yeh but that all depends on your beliefs imo. If you believe in god etc then your going to think its true and if you dont then your not.

Im not religious an i think its aload of junk. They will be finding small animal bones near there now an sayin its the animals which went on 2 by 2
Not necessarily, I believe in God and Jesus, although I am not very religious and I do not think it is Noah's ark...

[Black_Apalachi]

It's ********. Those idiots have found a piece of timber and are essentially saying; 'there is only a 1% chance that this is wood from any other boat ever made by any man in the history of time' - and that's assuming it is in fact from a boat. How on earth you can look at one little piece of rotten wood and confidently clarify it was part of an unimaginably colossal vessel, is beyond me.

[FlyingJesus]

Really quite pointless even if there is some way of knowing for sure that it is from Noah's Ark - the religious significance of that story is nothing to do with the actual structure of the vessel. If they found Moses' staff that'd be a different story because he had some fancy powers with that, whereas any piece of wood can float

[Blinger$]

i hate to boast about it, but I think i found some too... :O! Here's a picture as proof. As you can see, i have used ma nickname (blinga) as proof that I found it.

http://i43.tinypic.com/1qlb45.jpg

I'm getting some tests done now, i'll upload the results later.

[GommeInc]

A bunch of evangelical Christians (no bias there then) find some wood that happens to be dated back to the time the ark was supposedly made (as if there wasn't much wood in those days) at the place it supposedly landed.

Yeah, totally believable :P
To be fair though, dragging a huge wooden boat up a mountain is quite a good feat if it isn't the Ark :P

I think it's possible. I like to think most events in the Bible happened and that over-excited writers, theologists and people around at that time have scewered the information to make it more fascinating, like Jesus might have existed but was only a good teacher, doctor and overall person, but obvs that would be too believable :P Besides, the language it was translated from has about 1/50th of the amount of words we have, so obviously interpretation varies.

Speaking of which, hasn't the Ark been "found" before? The only significance with this particular vessel is that it is on the place it was believed to have landed after the flood.

[Inseriousity.]

Speaking of which, hasn't the Ark been "found" before? The only significance with this particular vessel is that it is on the place it was believed to have landed after the flood.

I'm sure they said the age was of a similar time, there are 'compartments' that could have held animals 'two by two' lol. tbh, it looks to me like the classic case of 'scientists' trying to prove themselves right, therefore finding evidence to fit with the bible.

Also for fundamentalists, they're not very good. The type of wood is completely different to the wood it states is used to build the ark in the Bible, which, (as far as I'm aware) according to fundamentalists, is the exact word of God and cannot be false.

So no I don't think it's the ark. most stories in the bible are symbolic rather than fact, I'd say.

[GommeInc]

So no I don't think it's the ark. most stories in the bible are symbolic rather than fact, I'd say.
Indeed, some seem to be illustrations for teachings too, which is fine provided people don't go crazy. It's one of those things you just wish you could go back in time and see what happened, might shut both sides up :P

What wood did they use? I didn't think the Bible mentioned any of this sort of thing :S Heck, as far as the Bible is concerned, the area it is set in was barren so finding trees is quite impressive! :P

[Nixt]

To be fair though, dragging a huge wooden boat up a mountain is quite a good feat if it isn't the Ark :P

I think it's possible. I like to think most events in the Bible happened and that over-excited writers, theologists and people around at that time have scewered the information to make it more fascinating, like Jesus might have existed but was only a good teacher, doctor and overall person, but obvs that would be too believable :P Besides, the language it was translated from has about 1/50th of the amount of words we have, so obviously interpretation varies.

Speaking of which, hasn't the Ark been "found" before? The only significance with this particular vessel is that it is on the place it was believed to have landed after the flood.

It's just wood though - there is no distinct vessel shape or anything. Just some wood.

[GommeInc]

Just ordinary flat wood or any curvature? There must be a got wood joke in there somewhere :(

[Misawa]

Since Noah's Ark never existed, no.

[HotelUser]

They discovered Noah's Ark for the first time again!

[jackass]

Since Noah's Ark never existed, no.

Your constant naive 'factual' posts annoy me intensely. What's that based on exactly?

[Black_Apalachi]

To be fair though, dragging a huge wooden boat up a mountain is quite a good feat if it isn't the Ark :P ...

If you're suggesting that the people who claim to have found it actually brought it there themselves, then I don't believe this is the case at all. There's no doubt they found the wood on the mountain, but it could easily be the remains of somebody's house ot anything that was once built there.

On the other hand, if you're just wondering how a boat would have got up the mountain - wouldn't that just be down to the height of the water during the so called flood?

Vaguely on the topic; has anybody ever calculated exactly how big a boat would have needed to be in order to house two of every species for whatever the specified amount of time was?

[Misawa]

It's based on logic and realism. You are naive for thinking otherwise.

[ecstasy]

finding some wood on a mountain must mean that its the remains an ark that never existed, its logic!