Muslim daubs war memorial with 'Islam will dominate the world' - but walks free

[Hitman]

A Muslim protester who daubed a war memorial with graffiti glorifying Osama Bin Laden and proclaiming 'Islam will dominate the world' walked free from court after prosecutors ruled his actions were not motivated by religion.
Tohseef Shah, 21, could have faced a tougher sentence if the court had accepted that the insults - which included a threat to kill the Prime Minister - were inspired by religious hatred.
But - citing a loophole in the law - the Crown Prosecution Service chose not to charge him with that offence and he escaped with only a two-year conditional discharge and an order to p

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270021/British-Muslim-daubs-war-memorial-Islamic-slogans--CPS-says-NOT-racially-motivated.html#ixzz0mhElEqr9


... crazy... should be kicked out of the country. When will people wake up? Seriously.

[-:Undertaker:-]

It is a very sad country which we live in, in which the minority seems to be above the law and where the majority is trampled on time and time again. When will people wake up, pretty soon I think and hope.

[Hitman]

It is a very sad country which we live in, in which the minority seems to be above the law and where the majority is trampled on time and time again. When will people wake up, pretty soon I think and hope.
At last, somebody has replied! I guess nobody else cares... it's very sad indeed. That guy and other extremists must be laughing at the UK... they can be as radical as they want and even claim benefits, from which comes from the taxpayer, the people these guys hate. Sigh.

[Dan2nd]

This is just disrespectful.. my parents are going to Dubai in a few months on holiday and I have read the countless number of rules that they have been warned they must follow.. in that mainly muslim country they have been warned they may get put in prison for wearing the wrong sort of swimming costume let alone vandelising a memorial. Out of respect obviously my parents have decided to make sure they follow the rules of their culture and try not to offend.. surely this is just blatent proof how the door obviously doesn't swing both ways.

I know this guy may be English Muslim so I can't really say he is foreign but the pure disrespect this shows towards our culture and our heritiage annoys me so much.

[Adamm]

All hail Labour.

[Swastika]

I never seen this before, im genuinely shocked a Muslim can get away with that.
If it was vice versa and a Christian wrote "Christianity will dominate the world" on something that represents Muslim or Islamic heritage, there would be hell-on and before somebody even says there wouldn't, have a chat with yourself please.
This country is a mess.

[Jahova]

That's discusting and in my eyes, is an act of terrorism. Life sentence for that is what I would give.

[Swastika]

^ amen.

[Mathew]

Just shows how messed up this country can be. People are trying too hard to avoid being racist to the point where they end up being racist to themselves.

[Tintinnabulate]

... crazy... should be kicked out of the country. When will people wake up? Seriously.

"glorifying Osama Bin Laden"
That is so disrespectful to those who died in 9/11 and in the London bombings.

Its idiots such as these who give people a terrible image of asians in this country.

[-:Undertaker:-]

"glorifying Osama Bin Laden"
That is so disrespectful to those who died in 9/11 and in the London bombings.

Its idiots such as these who give people a terrible image of asians in this country.

I dont think its just the people who do this, what fuels it is that our justice system [which is totally and utterly balls] and our government side with the bad guys and until its addressed, more people are just going to get so wound up they will turn to the extremes and rivers of blood will run on the streets as Enoch Powell predicted.

[Browney]

This thread screamed Daily Mail to me, and guess what? :P

[Hitman]

This thread screamed Daily Mail to me, and guess what? :P
Your point being? It is a real story and the ******* got away with it.

[Catzsy]

Well for once I agree - how can this be anything other than racially motivated? Very confused at the court ruling here.
I am not sure that Enoch Powell is relevent though as his speech was made in 1968 which is 42 years ago and
as Suarav says it give asians a bad name and those doing it represent a tiny minority. As I have said before if there was a real problem people would riot in the streets. That's what happens - you only have to look at Greece at the moment. If something means that much to a large majority of the population then they will takle action.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well for once I agree - how can this be anything other than racially motivated? Very confused at the court ruling here.
I am not sure that Enoch Powell is relevent though as his speech was made in 1968 which is 42 years ago and
as Suarav says it give asians a bad name and those doing it represent a tiny minority. As I have said before if there was a real problem people would riot in the streets. That's what happens - you only have to look at Greece at the moment. If something means that much to a large majority of the population then they will takle action.

This country seldom takes to the streets as with most countries, you cannot go on allowing unlimited bad immigration and say its all ok because nobody is rioting about it - the rivers of blood speech warned of this and it came true in France a few years back, if you go on allowing the creation of racial ghettos then you build the foundations for racial/religious war in the future and its very very dangerous.

[Hitman]

If the situation does not vastly improve regarding immigration then there will one day be riots. People don't riot at the minute because they're still bottling it up and not complaining, but one day it will get so bad there'll be big trouble - unless the next Government(s) fix it.

I'm all for 'good' immigration, providing it's controlled to ensure limited numbers of people with skills we need come in (or people who are willing to learn the language and work).

All extremists, such as the **** in the original story, should be kicked out. UKIP want to expel Islamic extremists which is another reason why I support them... not because I want to look cool and join a bandwagon, as some people suggested a while ago.

[Browney]

Your point being? It is a real story and the ******* got away with it.

My point is, it's fear mongering. The Daily Mail does more to damage the reputation of Asians in this country than extremists ever will. My Grandmother reads the daily mail and locks the car doors when she entires an area densely populated with asians. Good, honest asians. This song will demonstrate this, in a catchy rythm! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI)


If the situation does not vastly improve regarding immigration then there will one day be riots. People don't riot at the minute because they're still bottling it up and not complaining, but one day it will get so bad there'll be big trouble - unless the next Government(s) fix it.

I'm all for 'good' immigration, providing it's controlled to ensure limited numbers of people with skills we need come in (or people who are willing to learn the language and work).

All extremists, such as the **** in the original story, should be kicked out. UKIP want to expel Islamic extremists which is another reason why I support them... not because I want to look cool and join a bandwagon, as some people suggested a while ago.

HIYA BABE.

[Catzsy]

This country seldom takes to the streets as with most countries, you cannot go on allowing unlimited bad immigration and say its all ok because nobody is rioting about it - the rivers of blood speech warned of this and it came true in France a few years back, if you go on allowing the creation of racial ghettos then you build the foundations for racial/religious war in the future and its very very dangerous.

I dont think it's right to quote him after 42 years, Dan. You might as well quote nostrodamus.

[Smits]

My point is, it's fear mongering. The Daily Mail does more to damage the reputation of Asians in this country than extremists ever will. My Grandmother reads the daily mail and locks the car doors when she entires an area densely populated with asians. Good, honest asians. This song will demonstrate this, in a catchy rythm! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI)



HIYA BABE.

The Daily Mail might be notorious for being racist, but this has happened and has been published in many other papers. This muslim did graffiti this memorial with religous, racist hate and he did get away with it.

[Browney]

The Daily Mail might be notorious for being racist, but this has happened and has been published in many other papers. This muslim did graffiti this memorial with religous, racist hate and he did get away with it.

"Muslim daubs memorial" why not say "Extremist daubs memorial"? They use extremely emotive language to play on the prejudices in the public. I don't have a problem with any of Murdoch's pawns, but the Daily Mail. And yes, I have read it. I used to read it religiously, taking with it the recommended pinch of salt. On days of national importance, The Daily Mail ran with anti-Labour slurs. There's bias, then there's plain, smack in the face incendiary propaganda. If there are riots in the street it will be thanks to papers like the Daily Mail. If everyone met an immigrant, and put their prejudice aside people would learn there's much to be gained from a complete community that does not harbour hate, rather than one that is being driven apart by a selfish branch of a media corporation that has it's own agenda.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I dont think it's right to quote him after 42 years, Dan. You might as well quote nostrodamus.

It is apparent to quote him because we have politicians with views which mirror those of your own [when you said because we dont have riots its all perfectly fine and dandy] which show you would rather we ignore it which creates problems, infact Enoch Powell was one of the last politicians who would speak up about the problem and he was totally correct taking into the account that the problem has spiralled out of control even futher in recent years under this disasterous Labour government.


"Muslim daubs memorial" why not say "Extremist daubs memorial"? They use extremely emotive language to play on the prejudices in the public. I don't have a problem with any of Murdoch's pawns, but the Daily Mail. And yes, I have read it. I used to read it religiously, taking with it the recommended pinch of salt. On days of national importance, The Daily Mail ran with anti-Labour slurs. There's bias, then there's plain, smack in the face incendiary propaganda. If there are riots in the street it will be thanks to papers like the Daily Mail. If everyone met an immigrant, and put their prejudice aside people would learn there's much to be gained from a complete community that does not harbour hate, rather than one that is being driven apart by a selfish branch of a media corporation that has it's own agenda.

Oh here we go yet again on the media issue instead of actually debating the real issue which the paper highlights. This is the problem with Labour supporters/left wingers - you dont like the fact that people/newspapers dont actually agree with you and you cant seem to be able to accept that fact. I think you will find the vast majority of people and the Daily Mail are totally fine with immigration but seriously now just listen, just for once open your ears up;- we do not agree with uncontrolled immigration.

Controlled immigration and uncontrolled immigration - big difference, realise that.

[ifuseekamy]

I don't understand what the "loophole" was? It sounds stupid.

[Browney]

"Oh here we go yet again on the media issue instead of actually debating the real issue which the paper highlights. This is the problem with Labour supporters/left wingers - you dont like the fact that people/newspapers dont actually agree with you and you cant seem to be able to accept that fact. I think you will find the vast majority of people and the Daily Mail are totally fine with immigration but seriously now just listen, just for once open your ears up;- we do not agree with uncontrolled immigration.

Controlled immigration and uncontrolled immigration - big difference, realise that."

What real issue? The kid wrote some stupid stuff. No worse than some racist stuff written in my park. Using the n-word. Refer back to me when a white racist gets this sort of coverage. The Sun is famous for swapping to the winning team, and the Daily Mail has always been tripe. This has never concerned me. Like I said, I used to read the Daily Mail. I love you're calling me biased. I don't even have a party. It's true, my ideals probably lie in left-wing, but I do not blindly follow where Brown or Clegg goes. I don't have a party. It's clear that you are the biased one. Signatures, campaigning, using a right-wing paper... To be fair, I'm up against it.

It's a fair point that uncontrolled immigration is damaging, though, the ill-feelings between the English and said immigrants is not thanks to a deep-rooted and personal hatred of one another, but of chinese whispers. It's not exactly like we are a labour powerhouse of the world. A pole took your job washing dishes? Then go to college, learn a trade, get qualifications. I truly believe in a happy, pansy world where we can live together if we thought for ourselves for once. If we weren't told immigrants will make us run out of air or whatever tripe there'd be no problem. I do, though, realise this will never happen. Media will always be bias, hell I have bias.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I will repeat what I said very clearly, the media and the majority of the British public support immigration if it is controlled and managed properly which is far from the system we have at the moment in this country. To blame this hatred on the media is wrong because its not hatred (at the moment at least) - we just want somebody to listen for once and put some sort of decent control back on immigration. Uncontrolled immigration is the biggest social ill facing this country and it'd be downright wrong of the papers to censor and not cover this - its in our interest and its our concern so deal with it.

Newspapers are bought because people like what they say and they want to read a paper which fits their beliefs, hence why the right wing papers such as the Daily Mail, the Sun, the Telegraph and various others outperform the Guardian with the only good selling left wing newspaper being the Daily Mirror - and while the Daily Mail may be biased as with everything as you state, the Daily Mail at least moves around a bit whereas the Daily Mirror would support the Labour Party even if the country was totally ablaze.

[Catzsy]

It is apparent to quote him because we have politicians with views which mirror those of your own [when you said because we dont have riots its all perfectly fine and dandy] which show you would rather we ignore it which creates problems, infact Enoch Powell was one of the last politicians who would speak up about the problem and he was totally correct taking into the account that the problem has spiralled out of control even futher in recent years under this disasterous Labour government.

Oh here we go yet again on the media issue instead of actually debating the real issue which the paper highlights. This is the problem with Labour supporters/left wingers - you dont like the fact that people/newspapers dont actually agree with you and you cant seem to be able to accept that fact. I think you will find the vast majority of people and the Daily Mail are totally fine with immigration but seriously now just listen, just for once open your ears up;- we do not agree with uncontrolled immigration.

Controlled immigration and uncontrolled immigration - big difference, realise that.

Well it hasn't spiralled out of control as there haven't been riots on the streets. It's an old cliche that people with views like yours wheel out to make a point and it is of no relevence at all. The Labour Government hasn't been disastrous at all as far as I am concerned unless you are suggesting they could have stopped a global recesssion on their own and they have coped remarkably well with this one. Latest figures show that Manufactoring and Exports are the highest they have been in 15 years.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well it hasn't spiralled out of control as there haven't been riots on the streets. It's an old cliche that people with views like yours wheel out to make a point and it is of no relevence at all. The Labour Government hasn't been disastrous at all as far as I am concerned unless you are suggesting they could have stopped a global recesssion on their own and they have coped remarkably well with this one. Latest figures show that Manufactoring and Exports are the highest they have been in 15 years.

It hasn't spiralled out of control!?

We have just under one million people here who are here illegally - that has spiralled out of control and unless you stop this madness then it will decend into violence and hatred. The Labour government concerning the economy has been disasterous, you say its a global disaster then it surely was also a global boom at home also so in reality, they did very little except sell our gold stocks at a fraction of the price of their value and they removed powers from the Bank of England to the tick-box bureaucrats at the FSI - boom and bust happens and is a good thing if you look at long term economics (not the mention the fact it is essential) however do not try and pull the wool over our eyes.

[Browney]

It hasn't spiralled out of control!?

We have just under one million people here who are here illegally - that has spiralled out of control and unless you stop this madness then it will decend into violence and hatred. The Labour government concerning the economy has been disasterous, you say its a global disaster then it surely was also a global boom at home also so in reality, they did very little except sell our gold stocks at a fraction of the price of their value and they removed powers from the Bank of England to the tick-box bureaucrats at the FSI - boom and bust happens and is a good thing if you look at long term economics (not the mention the fact it is essential) however do not try and pull the wool over our eyes.

No. The media causes hatred. Without an incendary flame, what is a pile of wood? Yeah, issues are piling up, but its sensationalist media such as this that strikes the match. There is only hatred because we are told to hate them. I know why they do it though. If a paper came out and said "You know what, immigration isn't so bad" then they wouldn't sell. Tug at the heartstrings, use emotive language to get people wound up and hey-ho. You have people buying your paper then saying to friends "Do you know what I read in the Daily Mail? Immigrants give us cancer!"

[Hitman]

My point is, it's fear mongering. The Daily Mail does more to damage the reputation of Asians in this country than extremists ever will. My Grandmother reads the daily mail and locks the car doors when she entires an area densely populated with asians. Good, honest asians. This song will demonstrate this, in a catchy rythm! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI)



HIYA BABE.
I live in a city where it's 50% whites, 50% ethnic minorities. Most are Asians. My friend is an Asian. Now, I can see for myself and do not need the Daily Mail or any other paper or site to tell me what's going on.

It is still a real story and is showing how the **** got away with it.

[Catzsy]

It hasn't spiralled out of control!?

We have just under one million people here who are here illegally - that has spiralled out of control and unless you stop this madness then it will decend into violence and hatred. The Labour government concerning the economy has been disasterous, you say its a global disaster then it surely was also a global boom at home also so in reality, they did very little except sell our gold stocks at a fraction of the price of their value and they removed powers from the Bank of England to the tick-box bureaucrats at the FSI - boom and bust happens and is a good thing if you look at long term economics (not the mention the fact it is essential) however do not try and pull the wool over our eyes.


Well that is a load of scaremongering with nothing to back it up at all apart from your Enoch Powell speech of 42 years ago. Just because you think it does not mean it is going to happen and it hasn't even at the peak when Poland and Rumania joined the EU and did flood in.

Labour Government:
Miniumum Wage
Reduced tax from 23% to 20%Child Tax Credit
Working Tax Credit
Raising threshold of inheritance tax
Scrappage allowance on cars that has lifted the car industry out of recession
10 years of sustained growth in our economy
Winter Fuel Allowance
Pensions linked to earnings
Pension Credit
Raising of stamp duty thresholds
Cut VAT for a period of time to stimulate economy. Remember it was the Tory government who raised it from 8% to 15% but in that case you say it was imperative for them to do it then because the economy was in a state and then want to cut taxes now when it would be the worst time possible.
Wool over your eyes? There in none so blind as those who cannot see or do not want to see that there is a possibilty that they have done anything right.