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United-Clowgon
05-05-2010, 07:17 PM
It's just ridiculous, you get the teams like Chelsea, City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, that just inflate the market with the the ridiculous bids they make.

It's unfair that (mostly city) try and buy players for like 50+ million when they are not even worth it, other top teams should get the chance as well.

The market is inflated.. Augero 40 - 50 Mill. Ribbery 50 mill, Torres 60 - 80 mill.... ridiculous.

They moan that Clubs are in so much debt and not doing much to clear it off w/e but they need to do their bit as well, by putting in caps and making teams spend on the basis of what they can afford/earn.

The premier league/FA w/e make it so easy for ANYONE, to buy a football Club. Which shouldn't be allowed, people shouldn't be able to buy A Club if they are soley are going to gather the funds by borrowing money to pay for the bid and then putting it on the Club - Maybe if this were the case over 5 and half years ago, the Biggest Club in wouldn't be in so much debt.

Rant over/
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AlexOC
05-05-2010, 07:32 PM
I think teams should be able to spend as much as they want.

United-Clowgon
05-05-2010, 07:48 PM
It's just ridiculous, you get the teams like Chelsea, City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, that just inflate the market with the the ridiculous bids they make.

It's unfair that (mostly city) try and buy players for like 50+ million when they are not even worth it, other top teams should get the chance as well.

The market is inflated.. Augero 40 - 50 Mill. Ribbery 50 mill, Torres 60 - 80 mill.... ridiculous.

They moan that Clubs are in so much debt and not doing much to clear it off w/e but they need to do their bit as well, by putting in caps and making teams spend on the basis of what they can afford/earn.

The premier league/FA w/e make it so easy for ANYONE, to buy a football Club. Which shouldn't be allowed, people shouldn't be able to buy A Club if they are soley are going to gather the funds by borrowing money to pay for the bid and then putting it on the Club - Maybe if this were the case over 5 and half years ago, the Biggest Club in wouldn't be in so much debt.

Rant over/

Biggest Club in the world*


I think teams should be able to spend as much as they want.

that isn't fair though.

Blinger$
05-05-2010, 08:07 PM
Isn't that how the world works though? It works for everything, buying companies, getting a job, etc. You go for the best price you can get.
It's fair IMO, if clubs want to spend that much then let them. The poorer clubs need richer owners, better sponsers yo raise enough for more decent players

Browney
05-05-2010, 08:27 PM
I think teams should be able to spend as much as they want.

Now speak taking all the bias out of that sentence.

Jibbish
05-05-2010, 08:50 PM
Would you be moaning if you managed to land David Villa, Torres, Augero for big money this summer?

Tristan
05-05-2010, 08:55 PM
that isn't fair though.

awwwww. :(


... this is football.
Real Madrid can afford and earn the money that they spend, they're backed by the National Bank or something. You think limiting clubs to what they earn will do good for other clubs, leagues or football in general? That's silly.

Jack.Lfc
05-05-2010, 09:21 PM
It wasnt long ago man u broke the british transfer record?

brandon
05-05-2010, 10:42 PM
To be fair if you had billions like Man City you wouldn't be saying this.

If there's going to be a salary cap then it needs to be in all the best leagues otherwise all the great players will just go to La Liga and the Premier League will weaken.

Kieran
05-05-2010, 10:43 PM
I think there should be a cap on everything football related... Wages, transfers etc. I think it's rediculous how much they get paid :l

Smits
05-05-2010, 10:51 PM
I dont think theres any need for a cap on anything.

The money is there, spend it. The money comes ultimately from the fans through tickets & merchandising, and then because of all the fans advertisers and other people invest. The fans want to see the players so why shouldnt they get a lot of the money.

JackBuddy
05-05-2010, 10:58 PM
I don't mind teams spending big as long as it is sustainable and money made from within the club.

CHA!NGANG
05-05-2010, 11:00 PM
I think there should be a cap on everything football related... Wages, transfers etc. I think it's rediculous how much they get paid :l

Footballers get payed on average say... £70,000 a week? I'm talking about ones that play for top clubs that are good players, but not the biggest players, such as say Nasri for us.

70 x 52 = £3.64 Mill a year.

According to google, Rob Pattinson got payed £8 Mill for the New Moon film, which probably took around 8 months, so basically was on £12 Mill a year.

In 2007/2008, Miley Cyrus earnt Miley Cyrus: £12.5 Million.

Footballers really don't earn that much when you compare it to other entertainers...

StefanWolves
06-05-2010, 01:54 PM
Omg stop crying, this is life, the richer get richer and the poorer get poorer, you cannot moan Clowgon, you spend like £32million on Berbanob - bad decision yes but your club splashed the money, you cannot moan.

You weren't crying when you gained £70million for the sale of Ronaldo, were you? *Removed*

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Adamm
06-05-2010, 04:58 PM
There should be a salary cap, not a transfer cap.

JackBuddy
06-05-2010, 07:23 PM
There should be a salary cap, not a transfer cap.
94% of City's revenue is spent on wages, that's unreal.

Read somewhere the other day that UEFA are planning to impose a rule which means that teams can only spend £10m over what they can afford for themselves or something.

CHA!NGANG
06-05-2010, 07:33 PM
It's hard to put a Transfer cap on. Look at Ronaldo, Madrid have almost made up the £80 Mill through shirt sales. By the end of next season, they probably will have made it up. It all relates to how much a player is worth to the club. Saying that, maybe they can put a cap on the total cost of transfers to a club, say about £60 Mill, but that is net spendage. (No idea if net is the right term but sounds good), so basically if say we had this £60 Mill, sold Fabregas for £45 Mill, then we could make a £105 Mill bid for Messi if we wanted too as the sale of Fabregas will to the budget. Yes I know none of what I said will happen anytime soon but meh.

alexxxxx
06-05-2010, 07:50 PM
i cant believe a man u fan says this. teams will just trade players more if you did this.

all you need to do is put a cap on all spending.

ifuseekamy
06-05-2010, 08:47 PM
94% of City's revenue is spent on wages, that's unreal.

Suffice to say what they pay in income tax is probably doing wonders for the British economy.

Adamm
07-05-2010, 08:04 AM
Suffice to say what they pay in income tax is probably doing wonders for the British economy.
doing wonders for asylum seekers, yeah.

DieselShaq
07-05-2010, 10:54 AM
It makes no sense to have a transfer cap. You're not gonna see great players move until they decide not to renew their contracts (which they probably won't do) since their club won't release them for the price being offered. And since they are so great, they'll already be in the top clubs (e.g. Messi in Barcelona) winning competitions, satisfied with where they are, unwilling to move to another club. I agree that the amount of money spent is ridiculous (namely Cristiano Ronaldo last summer) but what are you going to do about it?

To make matters worse, which currency are you going to use for your cap? The exchange rate fluctuates every day and it goes to multiple decimal places. UEFA is likely going to use the Euro, and if they set it at, say, EUR 80m before the summer transfer window, it's GBP 69,663,540.66 one day and if one currency crashes over autumn, it may end up being just GBP 52,523,536.89 (obvious exaggeration, I hope) in January.

Same goes for the salary cap. Even though most of Europe uses the Euro, two countries like Spain and Greece shouldn't have the same cap, right? If they do have the same cap, using Barcelona and Olympiacos as examples here, Olympiacos would obviously have a lot more room to work with, so if I'm Lionel Messi, I'd consider a move over to Olympiacos for the money.

It's just not going to work.

FlyingJesus
07-05-2010, 02:28 PM
Attempting to cap finances on private companies is ridiculous. If they were all government funded then sure it would need looking into, but if someone is rich and owns the club then he should be free to spend whatever he likes on it. It's big business, and frankly if Athletico could only get £5m instead of 50 for Aguero there'd be no reason for them to sell - capping transfer funds would mean teams remained fairly static because no-one would want to sell their superstars or up-and-coming players.

JackBuddy
07-05-2010, 04:02 PM
It makes no sense to have a transfer cap. You're not gonna see great players move until they decide not to renew their contracts (which they probably won't do) since their club won't release them for the price being offered. And since they are so great, they'll already be in the top clubs (e.g. Messi in Barcelona) winning competitions, satisfied with where they are, unwilling to move to another club. I agree that the amount of money spent is ridiculous (namely Cristiano Ronaldo last summer) but what are you going to do about it?

To make matters worse, which currency are you going to use for your cap? The exchange rate fluctuates every day and it goes to multiple decimal places. UEFA is likely going to use the Euro, and if they set it at, say, EUR 80m before the summer transfer window, it's GBP 69,663,540.66 one day and if one currency crashes over autumn, it may end up being just GBP 52,523,536.89 (obvious exaggeration, I hope) in January.

Same goes for the salary cap. Even though most of Europe uses the Euro, two countries like Spain and Greece shouldn't have the same cap, right? If they do have the same cap, using Barcelona and Olympiacos as examples here, Olympiacos would obviously have a lot more room to work with, so if I'm Lionel Messi, I'd consider a move over to Olympiacos for the money.

It's just not going to work.
It would work if clubs were restricted to spending a certain % on club revenue on wages. Clubs should be alot more financially stable that way as they'll be living within their means.

DieselShaq
07-05-2010, 04:17 PM
It would work if clubs were restricted to spending a certain % on club revenue on wages. Clubs should be alot more financially stable that way as they'll be living within their means.
Then there's another problem. The revenue each year is different. If a team's revenue drops, they can't just lower their players' wages in order to get within the cap. Makes no sense.

JackBuddy
07-05-2010, 04:58 PM
Then there's another problem. The revenue each year is different. If a team's revenue drops, they can't just lower their players' wages in order to get within the cap. Makes no sense.
Then they'd have to sell players they can't aford to keep. Relegated clubs do it.

CHA!NGANG
07-05-2010, 05:27 PM
Then they'd have to sell players they can't aford to keep. Relegated clubs do it.

Well then players will have to be sold over and over again and it will just make the transfer market more populated and more like a loan/trade market and if you have to sell a player due to not being in the cap then you will have to sell the player for a smaller price and take a loss. Makes no business sense.

Mexel
07-05-2010, 06:35 PM
Moaning because City can outbid United these days me thinks.

Spend away.

AgnesIO
07-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Yeh this is comical. Just because Man United can't do it?

I do think there should be a cap on salaries and maybe transfers, although you oly complain because Man United are like the only team that (that are world famous) hat can't do it.

United-Clowgon
07-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Would you be moaning if you managed to land David Villa, Torres, Augero for big money this summer?

I'll admit, i probably wouldn't.


To be fair if you had billions like Man City you wouldn't be saying this.


admittedly, yes - I wouldn't be saying this.


Omg stop crying, this is life, the richer get richer and the poorer get poorer, you cannot moan Clowgon, you spend like £32million on Berbanob - bad decision yes but your club splashed the money, you cannot moan.

You weren't crying when you gained £70million for the sale of Ronaldo, were you? shut up.

First of all, does it look like I'm crying? :rolleyes: And don't tell me to shut up, who do you think you are? Some bigshot? I see and come across people like you EVERYDAY, you don't scare me. *Removed*

Attempting to cap finances on private companies is ridiculous. If they were all government funded then sure it would need looking into, but if someone is rich and owns the club then he should be free to spend whatever he likes on it. It's big business, and frankly if Athletico could only get £5m instead of 50 for Aguero there'd be no reason for them to sell - capping transfer funds would mean teams remained fairly static because no-one would want to sell their superstars or up-and-coming players.

I guess your right, it wouldn't work out, but i think there should be a rule change, if you cant afford to buy some or w/e don't buy them. Portsmouth for example..


Yeh this is comical. Just because Man United can't do it?

I do think there should be a cap on salaries and maybe transfers, although you oly complain because Man United are like the only team that (that are world famous) hat can't do it.

:rolleyes:

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AgnesIO
07-05-2010, 08:57 PM
What you say asking for means Man United should not be allowed to buy ANY players until they pay off all £700million debt. Have fun.

DieselShaq
08-05-2010, 02:01 AM
Then they'd have to sell players they can't aford to keep. Relegated clubs do it.
Makes no sense whatsoever. Clubs will be selling players for far less than their worth to other clubs just to be below the salary cap. And after losing those players, their revenue will fall again due to fewer jersey sales and they'll sell more players the next season. Not going to work.

And what if a team only uses 60% of their cap one season? Does the extra 40% carry onto the next? I don't think UEFA/FIFA wants to keep all those numbers around for every club there is.

Tristan
08-05-2010, 09:47 AM
First of all, does it look like I'm crying? :rolleyes: And don't tell me to shut up, who do you think you are? Some bigshot? I see and come across people like you EVERYDAY, you don't scare me. Now, you.. SHUT UP.

You're always crying at other people on the forums.
"omg why r u bein mean to me?!?! shut up u rnt beta dan me!!!!!!"

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StefanWolves
08-05-2010, 04:56 PM
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United-Clowgon
08-05-2010, 05:24 PM
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AgnesIO
08-05-2010, 05:41 PM
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JackBuddy
08-05-2010, 11:21 PM
******* arguments in every single thread.

Tristan
09-05-2010, 09:54 AM
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Matthew
09-05-2010, 10:23 AM
its quite funny how clowgon accuses people of being things that he himself is.

if you really are going to insist on calling other people names, then try to call them something that cant just be fired straight back. youll look a lot better then ;)

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