BROWN QUITS, CAMERON TAKES CONTROL

[Technologic]

Making a speech now, hes about to go to the queen. Updates coming

[marriott0.01]

Such a shame, such a good man.

[Kipp]

Oh dear new Prime Minister. Good luck David. I kinda liked Brown

[Kieran]

Shame he waited so long and then got thrown in to such a mess.

[xxMATTGxx]

Camerom doesn't take control yet. ;)

[Hecktix]

Didn't think it'd happen tonight thought it'd be first thing, Queen's gonna be up late!

The LD's and Torys havent officially made a deal yet, they need a majority vote by their MPs and Cameron isn't meeting his til 8.

[marriott0.01]

Camerom doesn't take control yet. ;)

I know has to be invited by the queen. Would be funny if she turned around and listened to his advice and just said '**** that ain't having that posh **** as PM'

[Misawa]

such a good man.

Funniest words of the year.

[xxMATTGxx]

I know has to be invited by the queen. Would be funny if she turned around and listened to his advice and just said '**** that ain't having that posh **** as PM'

I would love the Queen to say certain words towards David Cameron. It would make my day!

[Kieran]

BBC just said that Cameron will be making his way to the palace as soon as Brown leaves.

[MrPinkPanther]

Tory scum! Tory scum! Tory scum!

...Brilliant

[Technologic]

Tory scum! Tory scum! Tory scum!

...Brilliant

Im loving it!

[Jam]

Bah. I'd have prefered Lab/Lib with Gordon as PM opposed to that git having any power.

[Jordy]

I so hope he called her a bigot for a laugh when driving away then. Good riddance sir!

[Fez]

Funniest words of the year.

Minimum wage, saving the British economy.

Let's just blame Gordon.

[alexxxxx]

now... how long will the possible coalition last?

[Hecktix]

now... how long will the possible coalition last?

1 year tops.

all my thanks & luck go to Gordon Brown :)

[Tintinnabulate]

1 year tops.

all my thanks & luck go to Gordon Brown :)

It will depend on the conditions of the LD/Tories deal.

[xxMATTGxx]

It will depend on the conditions of the LD/Tories deal.

I don't expect it to last very long really.

[LucasLuke]

Cameron has just gone into the palace now.

[Mathew]

Watching it live on Sky News, Harriet Harman is becoming acting Labour leader. David Cameron just gone in the palace!

[Kieran]

Watching it live on Sky News, Harriet Harman is becoming acting Labour leader. David Cameron just gone in the palace!

Yeah it's on BBC News :)

[dbgtz]

I just wanna watch eastenders!
I'll miss brown, hes fun to take the mick out of :P

[Mathew]

It's now official... David Cameron is Prime Minister :) On his way to Downing Street to do a speech now!

[marriott0.01]

It's now official... David Cameron is Prime Minister :) On his way to Downing Street to do a speech now!

He's still in the Palace?

[Neversoft]

He is on his way to Downing Street now. Mathew must own a time machine.

[Mathew]

I am epic.

Wondering where the police bikes are though.. :P

[Jordy]

Aha it's finally happened. Where is his police escort though, he's prime minister?

[Inseriousity.]

Mathew must own a time machine.

Mathew isn't his real name; it's David Cameron! Sorry for insulting you, David Mathew

well good luck to him, gonna need it trying to run this country. Full of pessimists :p

[Frodo13.]

I'm scared for my future. I want a job in the public sectore (teacher to be precise) and under Conservatives, those hopes are uncertain.

I am a person who relys on the NHS when I become ill - the Conservatives bring uncertainty to the NHS with the cuts that will come.

Heres hoping that David Cameron is moved swiftly back to the opposite side of the House of Commons.

[marriott0.01]

I am epic.

Wondering where the police bikes are though.. :P

The car bomb didn't go off - unfortunately :(

Shame he is now PM

[Swastika]

I hope Cameron makes a good prime minister, sad to see Brown go though, its all about labour up north.
I actually cant believe he's prime minister to be honest, i hope he reassures mine and alot of peoples uncertainties about him being PM.
Wouldn't mind a riot though. :P

[Mathew]

Mathew isn't his real name; it's David Cameron! Sorry for insulting you, David Mathew

well good luck to him, gonna need it trying to run this country. Full of pessimists :p
If only I was on his salary! :P


The car bomb didn't go off - unfortunately :(
Can someone arrest this guy please.

Well that's it, all done. Imagine sleeping in the same bed as Gordon Brown once did..
May I also add, lol at all the protesters!

[MattFr]

Wheyyyyyy Cameron <3

[kuzkasate]

Thats just ruined my whole day. He cannot run a country, why did people vote for him? Its idiotic.

[Tintinnabulate]

Thats just ruined my whole day. He cannot run a country, why did people vote for him? Its idiotic.

People wanted a change, they obviously didnt care what kind of change.

[Oleh]

Theres goes my income for the next 2 years of my life aswell as hopes for any sort of future

[kuzkasate]

BBC just said that Cameron will be making his way to the palace as soon as Brown leaves.

then brown should take his time.. pretend he has a stitch or something and keep on dropping everything, then keep on going back in and out.

[Jordy]

Haha I'm immensely happy, what a speech that was by Mr Cameron! The coalition still needs to be revealed (The cabinet and policies) but either way I'm very glad to see Cameron in Number 10.

It's certainly been good debating with you guys on HabboxForum over the past few weeks and months. Many decent discussions have been had, -:Undertaker:-, Jam666, Catzsy, Alexxxxx, Saurav, Tash., Flyduo in particular :) - Cheers guys and gals.

[Swastika]

Be great if Obama phoned him and called him every name under the sun.

[MattFr]

Be great if Obama phoned him and called him every name under the sun.

why would he do that? He's a hero.

[Tintinnabulate]

Haha I'm immensely happy, what a speech that was by Mr Cameron! The coalition still needs to be revealed (The cabinet and policies) but either way I'm very glad to see Cameron in Number 10.

It's certainly been good debating with you guys on HabboxForum over the past few weeks and months. Many decent discussions have been had, -:Undertaker:-, Jam666, Catzsy, Alexxxxx, Saurav, Tash., Flyduo in particular :) - Cheers guys and gals.

Indeed it has.

Today is a very grim day for this country. Lets hope Labour win in 4 years time.

[Mathew]

Haha I'm immensely happy, what a speech that was by Mr Cameron! The coalition still needs to be revealed (The cabinet and policies) but either way I'm very glad to see Cameron in Number 10.

It's certainly been good debating with you guys on HabboxForum over the past few weeks and months. Many decent discussions have been had, -:Undertaker:-, Jam666, Catzsy, Alexxxxx, Saurav, Tash., Flyduo in particular :) - Cheers guys and gals.
While I don't get stuck in and debate in politics, I've read every thread following the election process and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Been nice to see other people's views.

I must also agree, great speech; he's a naturally good speaker. Rather him than me saying all that to millions of viewers though :P



Be great if Obama phoned him and called him every name under the sun.

LOL!
On another note, nice to see all those political avatars and signatures making an exit!

[Tintinnabulate]

President Obama is 'deeply frustrated' that the Gulf oil leak has not been plugged - spokesman

that was on the marquee on bbc news.
i was hoping it would say "President Obama is 'deeply frustrated' that Cameron is PM - spokesman"

[MattFr]

Indeed it has.

Today is a very grim day for this country. Lets hope Labour win in 4 years time.
Lol, I'd love a repeat of the last 13 years too!!!!!!!

[Catzsy]

Well congrats, Jordy! Let's hope he has some substance. Not unhappy though now Gordon has gone and hopefully David Milliband will become leader. Best option for them I think to regroup. Can't see it lasting for too long tbh - they are so far apart on policies but I guess everyone can learn. Should be a 'honeymoon' period to start with though. Had to laugh they have found names for the tory/libdems already. Cleggons! :D

[Tintinnabulate]

Well congrats, Jordy! Let's hope he has some substance. Not unhappy though now Gordon has gone and hopefully David Milliband will become leader. Best option for them I think to regroup. Can't see it lasting for too long tbh - they are so far apart on policies but I guess everyone can learn. Should be a 'honeymoon' period to start with though. Had to laugh they have found names for the tory/libdems already. Cleggons! :D

Fixed term government :(.

[PaulMacC]

2010, marks the end of the United Kingdom as we know it. Its been nice knowing you all. There probably will be a nuke inbound within the next year

[Catzsy]

Fixed term government :(.

Saurav there might be an agreement for for a FT but seriously the cracks will appear within a few months and then that means nothing. What they gonna do? Sue each other for breach of agreement? :P :D

[-:Undertaker:-]

An awful speech by Cameron and when you disect it you can see just how hollow those words ring, for example to rent a phrase 'rebuilding families' - well i'm sorry but you cannot rebuild families that have split. This will be a government of one-nation conservatism and liberalism from the Liberal Democrats which have failed in the past. I see one-nationism as a sideline to socialism, a idealogy which allows socialism to continue and Cameron has already told us that he will still allow the European Union to make our laws, he will increase foreign aid, he will increase taxes - he is no conservative.

The real winners are Herman Van Rompuy, Jose Barroso and the rest of the eurocrats in Brussels.

[Swastika]

why would he do that? He's a hero.
I fail to see how he's a hero, unless you earn £50k plus a year, then its very clear why you like him.

[Hitman]

Indeed it has.

Today is a very grim day for this country. Lets hope Labour win in 4 years time.
No, lets hope not.

The country can't get much worse. I hope something is done on immigration, I was surrounded by immigrants on the top deck today all talking in different languages and shouting...

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, lets hope not.

The country can't get much worse. I hope something is done on immigration, I was surrounded by immigrants on the top deck today all talking in different languages and shouting...

We'd all like some control over immigration, but sadly those powers no longer rest with the elected British government and rests elsewhere.

[Robbie]

Can I ask, have the Conservatives EVER said "we will be scrapping EMA" - because all these claims people are making on Facebook etc. seem to have no substance as of yet.

[Swastika]

I hope he doesn't, i don't think he realises it helps alot of teenagers get by.

[PaulMacC]

Am I the only one who thinks the government will collapse in under a year

[Catzsy]

Can I ask, have the Conservatives EVER said "we will be scrapping EMA" - because all these claims people are making on Facebook etc. seem to have no substance as of yet.

No they haven't. They have said they will be scrapping tax credit for middle class families earning 50k and over.

[Tintinnabulate]

Can I ask, have the Conservatives EVER said "we will be scrapping EMA" - because all these claims people are making on Facebook etc. seem to have no substance as of yet.

they love rich ppl so probs

[Swastika]

Am I the only one who thinks the government will collapse in under a year
No, i agree with you.

[Jordy]

Can I ask, have the Conservatives EVER said "we will be scrapping EMA" - because all these claims people are making on Facebook etc. seem to have no substance as of yet.No. I specifically remember him saying "We've looked into it and we think EMA is a good thing!" when asked in a college a few months back.

[Misawa]

Obama gave his support to Cameron when they met a few months ago and backed him as next PM.

[MattFr]

I fail to see how he's a hero, unless you earn £50k plus a year, then its very clear why you like him.

Well my family do, but I certainly don't. I'm able to form my own opinions, without input from my family.

[Tintinnabulate]

No. I specifically remember him saying "We've looked into it and we think EMA is a good thing!" when asked in a college a few months back.

I highly doubt he will say to students he wants to scrap EMA.

[Robbie]

My news feed is like OOOOMGGGGGGG EMAAAAAAA I HATE CAMERON UNIIIIIIIIIISSS EMA BUS FAREEEEEEE POVERTY STARVVING AFRICA DEATH

[-:Undertaker:-]

they love rich ppl so probs

Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson and many others certainly love the rich.. thats why they joined them!

[jam666]

Yep, thanks everyone for the great debates over the last few months! :).

To all who dislike DC as PM, Get real.

13 years of socialism has brought this country to its knees and now its time for change. Youve had your time in power and now its time to let go, sit back, and allow DC and the Con/Lib coalition stand up and govern this country.

(DC is NOT a fully fledged tory, but we are back in power!)

[PaulMacC]

Yep, thanks everyone for the great debates over the last few months! :).

To all who dislike DC as PM, Get real.

13 years of socialism has brought this country to its knees and now its time for change. Youve had your time in power and now its time to let go, sit back, and allow DC and the Con/Lib coalition stand up and govern this country.

(DC is NOT a fully fledged tory, but we are back in power!)
Dont you mean ruin this country. I hope your around next year when you see this country has been destroyed by the Tory government.

[Jordy]

Obama gave his support to Cameron when they met a few months ago and backed him as next PM.That's not right, foreign leaders typically remain neutral as it's not their problem. We'd probably of heard of it too.

[jam666]

Dont you mean ruin this country. I hope your around next year when you see this country has been destroyed by the Tory government.

Ive been around here for over 5 years, im sure ill still be around next year :). This country wont be destroyed, it will prosper :)

[Catzsy]

Yep, thanks everyone for the great debates over the last few months! :).

To all who dislike DC as PM, Get real.

13 years of socialism has brought this country to its knees and now its time for change. Youve had your time in power and now its time to let go, sit back, and allow DC and the Con/Lib coalition stand up and govern this country.


(DC is NOT a fully fledged tory, but we are back in power!)



I don't agree with you but yes lets see what happens. I can't see it lasting for long though as realistically they are poles apart but they haven't done anything wrong yet! :P

[jam666]

I don't agree with you but yes lets see what happens. I can't see it lasting for long though as realistically they are poles apart but they haven't done anything wrong yet! :P

Im going to be open and say aswell that i dont think the coalition will last and id actually quite like another general election but we shall have to wait and see what happens.

[Jordy]

Dont you mean ruin this country. I hope your around next year when you see this country has been destroyed by the Tory government.Okay then, how are they going to ruin this country? All I'm hearing is a constant stream of crap coming out your mouth and it's time you spoke some policies :P

[Swastika]

Yep, thanks everyone for the great debates over the last few months! :).

To all who dislike DC as PM, Get real.

13 years of socialism has brought this country to its knees and now its time for change. Youve had your time in power and now its time to let go, sit back, and allow DC and the Con/Lib coalition stand up and govern this country.

(DC is NOT a fully fledged tory, but we are back in power!)
Get real? Yeah that's great response to people who don't like the tories.
How can you say sit back and tell labour to let go? You probably weren't even interested in politics the last time the tories where in power, your the one who needs to get real LOL.

[jam666]

Get real? Yeah that's great response to people who don't like the tories.
How can you say sit back and tell labour to let go? You probably weren't even interested in politics the last time the tories where in power, your the one who needs to get real LOL.

Ive always being interested in politics, however quite rightly i was too young to take a major interest in it. However i have read dozens of documents, articles, blogs, bios and personal statements and have concluded my own opinion of 1979-1997. My own family prospered under the last Conservative government and therefore i believe we shall be fine once again :)

[PaulMacC]

Okay then, how are they going to ruin this country? All I'm hearing is a constant stream of crap coming out your mouth and it's time you spoke some policies :P
Removed for coming across as a ****.

[Catzsy]

Im going to be open and say aswell that i dont think the coalition will last and id actually quite like another general election but we shall have to wait and see what happens.

I actually see it as quite an exciting time in politics. It will be very interesting to see how they perform.

[Jordy]

I'd say the same but I think all tories speak **** and are *****. My opinion ;)LOL well at least they actually talk about policies rather than speak out obscenities like they're uneducated.

Just grow up if you've nothing decent to say, you clearly know nothing about politics. I don't ruin your call of duty threads by screaming about how rubbish it is.

[PaulMacC]

LOL well at least they actually talk about policies rather than speak out obscenities like they're uneducated.

Just grow up if you've nothing decent to say, you clearly know nothing about politics.
I probably dont, but neither does the majority of the population of the United Kingdom.

[jam666]

I probably dont, but neither does the majority of the population of the United Kingdom.

Your the prime example of why i believe people should be made to pass an IQ test before they can vote :P.

13 years of depression has lifted in the last few minutes, now the country can recover and get on with creating some wealth for our kids to enjoy.

Any hard working right thinking person should be happy that now, although it will be hard at first we can look forward to a better future and our tax money will be put to bet...ter use.

All you scroungers spend your last benefit payment on some work clothes because now hopefully you will have to work and support yourselves.

All you Immigrants tell your families and friends the doors are closed no more scroungers needed.

We've just got to get rid of those Limp Dems.

These are not my words but are of Jez Sanders - Conservative Party Blogger

[Swastika]

Ive always being interested in politics, however quite rightly i was too young to take a major interest in it. However i have read dozens of documents, articles, blogs, bios and personal statements and have concluded my own opinion of 1979-1997. My own family prospered under the last Conservative government and stherefore i believe we shall be fine once again :)
Well fair play to you, but unless you actually experienced what Britain was like with a Conservative government, i cant really see how you can comment on the tories being the best choice for the future of our country.

[Jordy]

Well fair play to you, but unless you actually experienced what Britain was like with a Conservative government, i cant really see how you can comment on the tories being the best choice for the future of our country.History doesn't have all that much to do with todays politics. If only the people who won't take a look at the Tories because of Thatcher realised that.

[Tintinnabulate]

Your the prime example of why i believe people should be made to pass an IQ test before they can vote :P.

13 years of depression has lifted in the last few minutes, now the country can recover and get on with creating some wealth for our kids to enjoy.

Any hard working right thinking person should be happy that now, although it will be hard at first we can look forward to a better future and our tax money will be put to bet...ter use.

All you scroungers spend your last benefit payment on some work clothes because now hopefully you will have to work and support yourselves.

All you Immigrants tell your families and friends the doors are closed no more scroungers needed.

We've just got to get rid of those Limp Dems.

These are not my words but are of Jez Sanders - Conservative Party Blogger

What about those people who work but also rely on benefits.

[Catzsy]

History doesn't have all that much to do with todays politics. If only the people who won't take a look at the Tories because of Thatcher realised that.

That is very true and tbf this is the first opportunity to see what the modern tory party now stands for. Intriguing. I would never have thought they would give away the inheritance tax or married persons tax allowance away or even considered an AV. Only thing is that DC always reminds me of Ken out the barbie doll collection. :( :P

[Swastika]

History doesn't have all that much to do with todays politics. If only the people who won't take a look at the Tories because of Thatcher realised that.
I have nothing against the Tories but i am worried for the future of Britain with somebody in charge of whom i know little about.
But to say Conservatives are great and are the best choice for the future its abit silly, when the person has never experienced what its like with the Tories in charge.

[Fez]

You're all very rather deluded that a change of government will equate to change. Including me in that matter.

I was a hardcore Tory, then I was a leaning Lib Dem. Now I consider myself politically ambiguous. An observer. My mother leans UKIP, and I slightly do, but I think I will always be 'the floating voter'.

The next few years will be good to just watch.

Let the fun begin.

[Mathew]

History doesn't have all that much to do with todays politics. If only the people who won't take a look at the Tories because of Thatcher realised that.

I daresay many people are uneducated on exactly what Thatcher did. It seems to me at school (and on this forum), many people jump on the band-wagon and agree with others about "Thatcher being an idiot" rather than reading it exactly and forming their own opinions. I have no opinion of her, for the simple reason being I'm unsure what she did so badly.

Then again, the majority of us aren't even voting age - intresing how we try to understand and debate politics.

[GommeInc]

No. I specifically remember him saying "We've looked into it and we think EMA is a good thing!" when asked in a college a few months back.
Then he's an idiot ;) Giving money out willy-nilly to teenagers is a bad idea and a waste of money. Just give them bus passes and transport costs, that's all they need. Anything else is just greed (woo, rhyme!).

[Oleh]

Me being a teenager - I would have Free travel fare and the odd loyalist reward now and again (for working hard in 6 form) but im also par with EMA (£30 a week for what ive been doing most of my life, can't say no)

[Swastika]

Then he's an idiot ;) Giving money out willy-nilly to teenagers is a bad idea and a waste of money. Just give them bus passes and transport costs, that's all they need. Anything else is just greed (woo, rhyme!).
EMA is supposed to be spent on equipment you may need for college such as overalls if your in construction or other uniforms you may need for your course. It is also supposed to be used on stuff like pencils and pens and other equipment.
Although i have to admit, mine very rarely does - but it does genuinely help out college kids who don't have jobs.

[Jam]

What's happening to the education funding then? Clegg wanted to spend more money but Cameron wanted less.

[ifuseekamy]

What's happening to the education funding then? Clegg wanted to spend more money but Cameron wanted less.

I imagine EMA will be cut, at least to a degree. The bonus thing will probably go. Both parties have shown disapproval of the system, the Lib Dems want it cut so that more money can be pumped into colleges which don't get as much funding as sixth forms.

[Pyroka]

I imagine EMA will be cut, at least to a degree. The bonus thing will probably go. Both parties have shown disapproval of the system, the Lib Dems want it cut so that more money can be pumped into colleges which don't get as much funding as sixth forms.

any generous funds towards the middle/lower class citizens of the UK will be cut majorly. same with alot of public sector jobs, expect redundancies in the police and medical sectors. i wouldnt be surprised if they rid of PCSO's either, i mean getting rid of the BBC because rupert murdoch told them to will probably happen. dirty goings on behind the scenes, i mean why would any voter want to rid of the bbc? if all conservative voters knew that, they wouldnt vote conservative.

shows just how misinformed they are.

[Grig]

Can't judge till he actually starts strutting his stuff as pime minster, no one can and talk is all talk, but it's all about action and substance.

Labour had a good ideology but is in shambles and the country didn't exactly prosper under Brown, although feel sorry for the guy- he had to be prime minister in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

Let's hope this will serve some good.

[AgnesIO]

Sad really that David Cameron is going to HAVE to become un-popular for England to do well.

Labour skipped all the tax rises that were essential, so the Tories need to introduce the tax etc, unpopular decisions can be heroic though.

[MattFr]

What about those people who work but also rely on benefits.
Well feel free to report those people to the authorities and they will be sorted. That sorts your concern!


I daresay many people are uneducated on exactly what Thatcher did. It seems to me at school (and on this forum), many people jump on the band-wagon and agree with others about "Thatcher being an idiot" rather than reading it exactly and forming their own opinions. I have no opinion of her, for the simple reason being I'm unsure what she did so badly.

Then again, the majority of us aren't even voting age - intresing how we try to understand and debate politics.
Thank you.


EMA is supposed to be spent on equipment you may need for college such as overalls if your in construction or other uniforms you may need for your course. It is also supposed to be used on stuff like pencils and pens and other equipment.
Although i have to admit, mine very rarely does - but it does genuinely help out college kids who don't have jobs.
I have no job, I receive no EMA yet I'm fine. What about the people that get full EMA, yet receive a free bus pass, and credit to buy educational supplies at college? Although I am against people on EMA getting so much, I live in a Conservative run county and that's an example of them helping the working class. How can anyone say the Tories are only going to help the rich when things such as this happen?


any generous funds towards the middle/lower class citizens of the UK will be cut majorly. same with alot of public sector jobs, expect redundancies in the police and medical sectors. i wouldnt be surprised if they rid of PCSO's either, i mean getting rid of the BBC because rupert murdoch told them to will probably happen. dirty goings on behind the scenes, i mean why would any voter want to rid of the bbc? if all conservative voters knew that, they wouldnt vote conservative.

shows just how misinformed they are.
No, that just shows how deluded you are, you completely misinformed fool. Please back all that crap up with evidence. The Tories want to cut pointless labour spending, the front line staff in our main services will not be affected. PCSOs are the biggest waste of money EVER. What do they do? Walk around, looking like idiots, trying to enforce law when they have no power? Fantastic!

Please get off the bandwagon and do some research before you try and argue, ignorant fool.

[Pyroka]

Well feel free to report those people to the authorities and they will be sorted. That sorts your concern!


Thank you.


I have no job, I receive no EMA yet I'm fine. What about the people that get full EMA, yet receive a free bus pass, and credit to buy educational supplies at college? Although I am against people on EMA getting so much, I live in a Conservative run county and that's an example of them helping the working class. How can anyone say the Tories are only going to help the rich when things such as this happen?


No, that just shows how deluded you are, you completely misinformed fool. Please back all that crap up with evidence. The Tories want to cut pointless labour spending, the front line staff in our main services will not be affected. PCSOs are the biggest waste of money EVER. What do they do? Walk around, looking like idiots, trying to enforce law when they have no power? Fantastic!

Please get off the bandwagon and do some research before you try and argue, ignorant fool.

:eusa_doh:
:eusa_doh:
:eusa_doh:
:eusa_doh:

I'm not on the bandwagon. I voted lib dems, I despise Cameron for what he stands for and I think the Labour party could've done a better job with Lib dems supporting them. Define pointless labour spending btw, seeing as you think you know it all lol. i didnt read the tory manifesto looking for evidence nope nope nope not me. :rolleyes:

and i think the correct word for me isn't ignorant fool, its commoner, just like alot of the people who DIDNT vote conservative. oh snap.

[Tintinnabulate]

Well feel free to report those people to the authorities and they will be sorted. That sorts your concern!


Thank you.


I have no job, I receive no EMA yet I'm fine. What about the people that get full EMA, yet receive a free bus pass, and credit to buy educational supplies at college? Although I am against people on EMA getting so much, I live in a Conservative run county and that's an example of them helping the working class. How can anyone say the Tories are only going to help the rich when things such as this happen?


No, that just shows how deluded you are, you completely misinformed fool. Please back all that crap up with evidence. The Tories want to cut pointless labour spending, the front line staff in our main services will not be affected. PCSOs are the biggest waste of money EVER. What do they do? Walk around, looking like idiots, trying to enforce law when they have no power? Fantastic!

Please get off the bandwagon and do some research before you try and argue, ignorant fool.

I wasn't on about working illegally...

And I agree with you Grig. Tony Blair left at the right time.

[MattFr]

Define pointless labour spending btw, seeing as you think you know it all lol.

I saw something on the news about teams of people in an area going out and giving people £50 fixed penalties for dropping cig ends. A team of 4 people issued 2 fixed penalties all day. Hey, brilliant use of spending! PCSOs are pointless too, everyone here laughs at them.

[Hitman]

I saw something on the news about teams of people in an area going out and giving people £50 fixed penalties for dropping cig ends. A team of 4 people issued 2 fixed penalties all day. Hey, brilliant use of spending! PCSOs are pointless too, everyone here laughs at them.
PCSOs are useless indeed - no proper powers and people here think they're a joke too. They are not seen as police because really they aren't. What is the point in having a really lovey dovey police force? With name badges, etc? Maybe Community Support Officers would be good for helping gather information after a crime has been committed or for things that aren't so important and the real police should deal with real crime. Criminals aren't friendly so why should the police be? Criminals just laugh and take this piss... then they get a short prison sentence, or even community support (and I heard two lads laughing about it, one said he stabbed an officer in the arm with a scalpel) and then they come out and do it again.

Sorry for the rant.

[-:Undertaker:-]

any generous funds towards the middle/lower class citizens of the UK will be cut majorly. same with alot of public sector jobs, expect redundancies in the police and medical sectors. i wouldnt be surprised if they rid of PCSO's either, i mean getting rid of the BBC because rupert murdoch told them to will probably happen. dirty goings on behind the scenes, i mean why would any voter want to rid of the bbc? if all conservative voters knew that, they wouldnt vote conservative.

shows just how misinformed they are.

The BBC will sadly not be privatised by the Conservatives, although I dont understand why Labour supporters are against free market commercial television that nearly every other country has. If I want to pay to watch the BBC then let me, if I dont want to watch BBC then dont force me to pay for television I have no desire in watching.


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I'm not on the bandwagon. I voted lib dems, I despise Cameron for what he stands for and I think the Labour party could've done a better job with Lib dems supporting them. Define pointless labour spending btw, seeing as you think you know it all lol. i didnt read the tory manifesto looking for evidence nope nope nope not me. :rolleyes:

and i think the correct word for me isn't ignorant fool, its commoner, just like alot of the people who DIDNT vote conservative. oh snap.

European Union, Olympics, cushy prisons for criminals (Xboxs etc), expenses, out of control welfare system, throwing billions at the NHS which doesnt solve anything, paying private contractors over the top prices to build hospitals, the client state that has been created under Labour (the public sector) with jobs such as 'diversity manager' on £30k+ a year - all can be found in the Guardian jobs pages.

I mean you could go on and on although i'm not with the Tories on this either, they propose £6 billion worth of cuts - it needs to be well over £60 billion in cuts if we are to get ourselves out of debt. We have a debt of well over £1 trillion and we spend more on debt interest than we do on the entire education/military budgets and they are having a laugh if they think £6 billion is at all a serious saving.

[AgnesIO]

You always deny it Dan, but I PROMISE you always use the services in one way or another.

Also how can you possibly even say the Guardian as as point?

Also the tories are worse than Labour.

[Jxhn]

Well feel free to report those people to the authorities and they will be sorted. That sorts your concern!

rely


I have no job, I receive no EMA yet I'm fine. What about the people that get full EMA, yet receive a free bus pass, and credit to buy educational supplies at college? Although I am against people on EMA getting so much, I live in a Conservative run county and that's an example of them helping the working class. How can anyone say the Tories are only going to help the rich when things such as this happen?
If you have no job, don't recieve EMA and are fine then you must get money from your parents. Not all parents can afford to give out cash to their kids all the time. You can't recieve free bus passes at all so I don't know where you got that from.

[MattFr]

rely


If you have no job, don't recieve EMA and are fine then you must get money from your parents. Not all parents can afford to give out cash to their kids all the time. You can't recieve free bus passes at all so I don't know where you got that from.

I got that from my Brother's girlfriend who has full EMA and has a free bus pass. I guess she's obviously lying since you know better.

[Jxhn]

I got that from my Brother's girlfriend who has full EMA and has a free bus pass. I guess she's obviously lying since you know better.

well maybe you misunderstood her or something. if there were free bus passes for under 18s then everyone would have them, you can get reduced fair passes that mean you only have to pay childs fair, but thats still £7 a week here

[-:Undertaker:-]

You always deny it Dan, but I PROMISE you always use the services in one way or another.

Also how can you possibly even say the Guardian as as point?

Also the tories are worse than Labour.

I did not say I didnt use those services, I believe you should have the simple choice over the matter of what broadcasting service you use.
The Guardian is a very good point, we all know of government non-jobs and the public sector in this country has expanded massively which is the cause of the massive deficiet in this country and others, the public sector does not create wealth - the private one does.

[MattFr]

well maybe you misunderstood her or something. if there were free bus passes for under 18s then everyone would have them, you can get reduced fair passes that mean you only have to pay childs fair, but thats still £7 a week here

Or maybe you just need to accept that I'm right and stop arguing when you're wrong?

[Catzsy]

I did not say I didnt use those services, I believe you should have the simple choice over the matter of what broadcasting service you use.
The Guardian is a very good point, we all know of government non-jobs and the public sector in this country has expanded massively which is the cause of the massive deficiet in this country and others, the public sector does not create wealth - the private one does.

That is agreed if the creation of wealth is the only priority. That's where the philosophies differ.

[Jxhn]

Or maybe you just need to accept that I'm right and stop arguing when you're wrong?

Or maybe you need to focus less on 'arguing' and actually read what I'm saying

[MattFr]

Or maybe you need to focus less on 'arguing' and actually read what I'm saying

I'm reading it, and it's wrong.

[Jxhn]

I'm reading it, and it's wrong.

Well it isn't, maybe you can get free passes wherever you live but here you can't. You can't take EMA away from everyone just because a few people that don't need it get it.

You still haven't told me how you're fine without EMA, a job or money from your parents.

[MattFr]

Well it isn't, maybe you can get free passes wherever you live but here you can't. You can't take EMA away from everyone just because a few people that don't need it get it.

You still haven't told me how you're fine without EMA, a job or money from your parents.
Well, I get a little bit of money, but nothing substantial. I generally save money I do get, for example from birthdays, for future use. I do do freelancing though, but I wouldn't count that as a job.

[Becca]

David Cameron needs to become a toyboy and get a life.

[Browney]

At the time of the election appointment I was disappointed, sure. But now, I'm willing to give Cameron a chance.

[Swastika]

Or maybe you just need to accept that I'm right and stop arguing when you're wrong?
OR maybe, your wrong and you can't get completely free bus passes? You can get half price passes, that's about all connections will give you, otherwise we'd all have free ones.


Well, I get a little bit of money, but nothing substantial. I generally save money I do get, for example from birthdays, for future use. I do do freelancing though, but I wouldn't count that as a job.
For you not to get EMA your parents obviously earn too much money for you to qualify.
How do you get by though during the week, you can't save everything and you need a decent amount for a week?

Your obviously a stuck up snob from a wealthy family background or something and jumping on the Torie bandwagon, go get some scones with Mr Cameron.

[-:Undertaker:-]

For you not to get EMA your parents obviously earn too much money for you to qualify.
How do you get by though during the week, you can't save everything and you need a decent amount for a week?

Your obviously a stuck up snob from a wealthy family background or something and jumping on the Torie bandwagon, go get some scones with Mr Cameron.

Or maybe he doesnt expect to get everything free in life and from the state as you obviously do with that sense of self-entitlement.
Before you go accusing Conservatives of being upper class/snobbish, take a look at the Labour frontbench.

[MattFr]

OR maybe, your wrong and you can't get completely free bus passes? You can get half price passes, that's about all connections will give you, otherwise we'd all have free ones.

Ok, I'm wrong. You know this person better than me, she totally doesn't have a free bus pass and full EMA. I apologize.

Or possibly, you're too stupid to realise that it's controlled by the local authority. The Cambridgeshire local authority is Conservative, and they provide free bus passes for people under a certain income threshold. If you want to have an argument, please phone them up and tell them they're wrong. I can get the number for you, if you want?



For you not to get EMA your parents obviously earn too much money for you to qualify.
How do you get by though during the week, you can't save everything and you need a decent amount for a week?

Your obviously a stuck up snob from a wealthy family background or something and jumping on the Torie bandwagon, go get some scones with Mr Cameron.
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I get £20 a month from my parents, and whatever money I have in my account from savings. I think it's more to do with me appreciating the value of money, making the little amount I have personally go far. I personally think that the attitude of expectancy of free money from the state is poor and will only hurt you in further life. £20-30 a week is a lot, maybe you should have some more respect for it.

My whole family is from a very working class, northern background. My dads family were all miners, my mums worked in factories. We're definitely not rich s****, and I don't appreciate you labelling me as that. I've formed my own political opinions, thank you, I'm not a sheep.

Maybe I suggest you should learn to appreciate the value of money, and stop jumping on the anti-tory bandwagon :)


Or maybe he doesnt expect to get everything free in life and from the state as you obviously do with that sense of self-entitlement.
Before you go accusing Conservatives of being upper class/snobbish, take a look at the Labour frontbench.
Haha +rep if I can.

[AgnesIO]

EDIT: Re read what he said :P

[Wig44.]

OR maybe, your wrong and you can't get completely free bus passes? You can get half price passes, that's about all connections will give you, otherwise we'd all have free ones.


For you not to get EMA your parents obviously earn too much money for you to qualify.
How do you get by though during the week, you can't save everything and you need a decent amount for a week?

Your obviously a stuck up snob from a wealthy family background or something and jumping on the Torie bandwagon, go get some scones with Mr Cameron.

My family is above the income threshold for EMA, yet we are pretty skint most of the time, due to several things - some of these are: there are 5 of us living together, my dad works in london and the money needed to travel there and back from Eastbourne comes from his pocket, we have been repeatedly over taxed and trying to get reimbursed is like trying to get blood from a rock.

If you have, say, a single mother earning £25,000 per year with one child, or a couple with 4 kids together earning £31,000. Who gets EMA? The 6 people sharing £31,000 or the 2 people sharing £25,000? Just because someone doesn't qualify for EMA doesn't mean anything - you're a complete idiot if you think so.

Edit: That all being said, whilst I could use EMA, I would rather live off my own back than burden the taxpayer further.

[MattFr]

My family is above the income threshold for EMA, yet we are pretty skint most of the time, due to several things - some of these are: there are 5 of us living together, my dad works in london and the money needed to travel there and back from Eastbourne comes from his pocket, we have been repeatedly over taxed and trying to get reimbursed is like trying to get blood from a rock.

If you have, say, a single mother earning £25,000 per year with one child, or a couple with 4 kids together earning £31,000. Who gets EMA? The 6 people sharing £31,000 or the 2 people sharing £25,000? Just because someone doesn't qualify for EMA doesn't mean anything - you're a complete idiot if you think so.

Edit: That all being said, whilst I could use EMA, I would rather live off my own back than burden the taxpayer further.

Finally someone with the right attitude. Kudos to you brother.