View Full Version : who supports the lib/con coallition?
alexxxxx
11-05-2010, 10:09 PM
I do because i think the sensible policies and ideals of both parties will shine through (europe, electoral reform, fiscal sensibilities) whilst the bad sides will be rejected (further privatisation, 'big society' rubbish). Or am I deluded that I think they will work together fairly well?
-:Undertaker:-
11-05-2010, 10:12 PM
The Liberal Democrats have signed themselves upto electoral suicide, theres nothing to stop Cameron calling an election when the government splits/when the polls are looking good. Clegg blew it big time. I would say its going to last 2 years maximum, anything longer and i'll eat my keyboard.
Jordy
11-05-2010, 10:13 PM
I'm optimistic with David Cameron as leader and Nick Clegg as deputy. I'm also pleased about George Osbourne continuing as Chancellor but really I need to see the rest of the cabinet and policies to be released to come to any conclusion, but so far so good.
Glad to see the Conservatives dropping the inheritance tax and married couples tax cut changes, they really weren't that popular or necessary during these times.
alexxxxx
11-05-2010, 10:15 PM
The Liberal Democrats have signed themselves upto electoral suicide, theres nothing to stop Cameron calling an election when the government splits/when the polls are looking good. Clegg blew it big time. I would say its going to last 2 years maximum, anything longer and i'll eat my keyboard.
nah i disagree, i think if he manages to pass electoral reform and some other policies - and block others, it would be a massive scoop for them. and honestly - a weak lib/lab/others "progressive" coalition, which would essentially be branded (wrongly) as a losing coalition by the press, not exactly great for the country as a whole. i think we'll have to look at this over time to make a good judgment.
GommeInc
11-05-2010, 10:51 PM
It's more democratic than a Lab/Lib Coalition. Seeing as the Electorate were clearly more in favour of the Tories than Labour, and that the Liberal Democracts and the Conservatives would make a clear majority than a Labour and Lib Dem coalition, which would still not make a majority. The only down side are (or were) the conflicting interests, but as far as I can tell, the Liberal Democrats are proving, yet again, that they can't make their minds up and have gone against PR, Policy and "democracy" (not sure why people are saying that, but that's the opinion so far that they're going against democracy).
PaulMacC
11-05-2010, 11:52 PM
Judging by this Facebook post the majority of Liberal Democrat supporters do not - http://www.facebook.com/libdems?v=wall&story_fbid=121934297824730
Tintinnabulate
12-05-2010, 12:06 AM
When they fail, Labour MP's will use it as an excellent campaigning tool in the next election and point out all the failures of Lib Dems. :)
marriott0.01
12-05-2010, 12:57 AM
I would never support ConDem-nation. It's actually awful that the Lib Dems would sell out to a party which screws everything up everytime they get into power.
FlyingJesus
12-05-2010, 01:18 AM
I'm not sure why people are talking about the Lib Dems "selling out" when it's Cameron who's changing a load of policy in order to get them - including some hardline stuff like electoral reform. As has (I believe) been said by certain party members, he's working on his own ego getting through the Number 10 door and sacrificing the ideals of his party. I'm not particularly bothered myself as I've never felt that political agendas were down to me and I'm generally quite happy with someone else making the big decisions as long as they don't intrude on my personal liberty - which hasn't happened much - but I can see why people on both sides of this unlikely alliance would be unhappy for various reasons.
MrPinkPanther
12-05-2010, 12:59 PM
The Liberal Democrats have signed themselves upto electoral suicide, theres nothing to stop Cameron calling an election when the government splits/when the polls are looking good. Clegg blew it big time. I would say its going to last 2 years maximum, anything longer and i'll eat my keyboard.
5 Year fixed parliament says not. I'm happy with a lot that has been negotiated and I fully support a Lib-Con coalition since it has a greater mandate than Lib-Lab. HOWEVER I am extremely disappointed that PR was not pushed further, AV is not a proportional system.
-:Undertaker:-
12-05-2010, 07:21 PM
5 Year fixed parliament says not. I'm happy with a lot that has been negotiated and I fully support a Lib-Con coalition since it has a greater mandate than Lib-Lab. HOWEVER I am extremely disappointed that PR was not pushed further, AV is not a proportional system.
The 5 year parliament legislation does not make sense, if the coalition fails then the government will collapse and a Conservative minority would not be able to function, thus why an election would have to be called despite the legislation. That piece of legislation is nothing more than a show-piece.
alexxxxx
12-05-2010, 07:40 PM
The 5 year parliament legislation does not make sense, if the coalition fails then the government will collapse and a Conservative minority would not be able to function, thus why an election would have to be called despite the legislation. That piece of legislation is nothing more than a show-piece.
i think the legislation they want to bring is that if 55% give a vote of no confidence then they will call an election - which doesnt sound all that hard tbh.
jam666
12-05-2010, 10:37 PM
5 Year fixed parliament says not. I'm happy with a lot that has been negotiated and I fully support a Lib-Con coalition since it has a greater mandate than Lib-Lab. HOWEVER I am extremely disappointed that PR was not pushed further, AV is not a proportional system.
Oh please, a vote of no confidence will destroy this coalition and thats coming from a conservative supporter :). The only reason you support a con/lib coalition is because your man clegg has a chance of grasping some power after his party being in the wilderness for decades.
On the subject of PR, how dare you wish PR was not pushed further. Now its simple maths but which party won the most seats? the answer is Conservatives with 307, the liberals came third and have 57 and as a result are in no position what so ever to make demands and am partially pleased these have not being fully met but i am dissapointed with the fact that a vote on AV has been agreed as from most thatcherite torys its betrayal. The Conservatives could of easily formed an minority government without the lib dems and fair enough it probably would not of being stable and therefore the lib dems were practically not needed.
As a result i believe this coalition wont last long. Bring on a general election in 1 years time as id love to see how labour and lib-dem people manage to campaign with a lack of funds :P.
Ajthedragon
13-05-2010, 07:38 PM
I love what changes they've made in the past 2 days. They seem to get on now. I hope they continue to do so in a professional manner, I'm all for this new government.
Catzsy
13-05-2010, 07:43 PM
The 5 year parliament legislation does not make sense, if the coalition fails then the government will collapse and a Conservative minority would not be able to function, thus why an election would have to be called despite the legislation. That piece of legislation is nothing more than a show-piece.
It only applies to the fact that it is a fixed date so any pm won't be able to go at a time that he thinks is the best. There can still be a split in the coalition, a vote of no confidence which will spark off an election. I really think it is too early to tell at the moment but I was shocked that they intend to put CGT up from 18% to 40% for people who have second homes.
Technologic
13-05-2010, 07:53 PM
Cutting ID cards, biometrix passports and the 3rd heathrow runway... I'm happy
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