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Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 06:52 PM
I think the below three addons might help HabboxForum. I think they will be beneficial but it would be good to see what others think.

1) Gift Donor
2) Double post merge
3) Football Predictions


1) Gift Donor
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=237351

Currently, to buy donor for a friend, you have to buy it for yourself and then send a private message to brandon asking for it to be transferred onto the friend. However, this way, it would be be automatic. You will just have to enter the friends name while buying it.

2) Double post merge
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233234

This addon will mean any double post will automatically be merged, meaning users will not have to worry about it. Say if you are replying to a debate or something, and you post a reply, and if someone else posted something before you (but before you pressed reply) and you want to reply to them too, you wont have to re-edit your post, just have to reply to it and it will be automatically merged.
Some people in debates or other forums write a long reply, and by the time they finish, theres like 10 new posts, so it would be easier if double posts are automatically merged to prevent the person having to edit their post again.
This would mean there would be no more warnings and if a new user / old user makes a mistake, they don't get warned.

You can set which forums to enable it in, and only to merge posts which are posted within 15 minutes. This way it can be disabled in Announcements, Staff Forums, Spam, Forum Games etc.

3) Football Predictions
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=238043

Its upto the sports forum users about this one. I think they might like it, but at the end of the day, its their opinions which matters as they will be the ones using it.
Its an addon which lists all the football leagues and all the matches. You can place your predictions before the match and if you are right, you get a point. There is also a hall of fame showing users points. It might be a fun little competition for sports members and maybe Forum Management can hand out prizes for those who get the most correct ones per month / per season etc.

Here is what it looks like:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qwecqo.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/20544uw.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/zlw96f.png

http://i48.tinypic.com/2aan7m9.png

These are just ideas which I think might help habboxforum and make it a bit more enjoyable :).

Thanks.

Nixt
18-05-2010, 06:54 PM
I am all for the first and second ones. I see no reason why these shouldn't be added and would be beneficial. Obviously their installation will need to be discussed with forum and general management fully but from my point of view, it would be quite cool.

I feel we would need to see a lot more opinions before passing judgement on the last one, however.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 06:57 PM
By the way, the match results are updated automatically so forum management will not have to do anything.

dogboy123
18-05-2010, 06:59 PM
For the double post ones, how will the person get reminded (oe w/e mods pm them to tell them theyve double posted)?

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 07:01 PM
The first one would only be available by PayPal and I think this would have to be cleared by Jin, I am in support of it though :)

I'm struggling to see the need for the second one, as double posts arent a major issue. Although if it's a popular option I'm willing to look into it.

The third one I don't like at at all, it's too much in my opinion, the sports forum isn't that huge of a community :)

I'd like to see Jamesy's opinion on these too, from a technical aspect.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:01 PM
For the double post ones, how will the person get reminded (oe w/e mods pm them to tell them theyve double posted)?

There will be no reminders as it will be automatically merged - therefore there will be no double post.

Sharon
18-05-2010, 07:01 PM
1) Yes definately
2) Probably not, mods are fine.
3) Not fussed

Nixt
18-05-2010, 07:01 PM
For the double post ones, how will the person get reminded (oe w/e mods pm them to tell them theyve double posted)?

It won't be necessary as the double posts are automerged. There is no rule there to be break :P

xxMATTGxx
18-05-2010, 07:04 PM
I do like the first two plugins you have suggested and would be nice to see them both added onto the forum. Last one, I'm not a huge fan of it due to it being too much and we don't have a big enough sports community.

dogboy123
18-05-2010, 07:06 PM
For the 1st one, if you donate by SMS you cangive it as a gift?

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 07:08 PM
For the 1st one, if you donate by SMS you cangive it as a gift?

As we use an external system it'll have to work int he same principle it does now.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:09 PM
For the 1st one, if you donate by SMS you cangive it as a gift?

As Oli said, it will only work for those by PayPal.

Adamm
18-05-2010, 07:11 PM
I agree with the football one. Think about it as an add-on to the arcade only for us sports fans. It looks fun and would definitely increase my activity on the forum, I'm sure it'd be the same with other sports members (15+) of us.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:13 PM
I agree with the football one. Think about it as an add-on to the arcade only for us sports fans. It looks fun and would definitely increase my activity on the forum, I'm sure it'd be the same with other sports members (15+) of us.

Ah thats good :). I thought they might like it as it will give them something to go on and predict the scores and get points.

Jamesy
18-05-2010, 07:13 PM
I don't see the harm in the first one. If it slipstreams what sounds like a bit of a faff then I am all for it.

I also don't see the harm in the second one. Double Posts may not be much of a problem but I can see how replying twice quickly and getting a pm from a moderator may be off putting. It would also mean the rules page could lose a rule which is never a bad thing.

The last one... I am not so keen on. It seems like it is a minority who would find it useful and a great majority probably watch the game, view the news through normal channels and they seem to be doing fine with that. So, that ones a 'prefer not' from me.

Adamm
18-05-2010, 07:15 PM
The last one... I am not so keen on. It seems like it is a minority who would find it useful and a great majority probably watch the game, view the news through normal channels and they seem to be doing fine with that. So, that ones a 'prefer not' from me.
You haven't even read what it is.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:16 PM
I don't see the harm in the first one. If it slipstreams what sounds like a bit of a faff then I am all for it.

I also don't see the harm in the second one. Double Posts may not be much of a problem but I can see how replying twice quickly and getting a pm from a moderator may be off putting. It would also mean the rules page could lose a rule which is never a bad thing.

The last one... I am not so keen on. It seems like it is a minority who would find it useful and a great majority probably watch the game, view the news through normal channels and they seem to be doing fine with that. So, that ones a 'prefer not' from me.

What has putting your predictions down before the match have anything to do with watching the game and news channels? Its main feature is so users can predict the scores and earn points. Its like a competition between the sports members.

Jamesy
18-05-2010, 07:17 PM
What has putting your predictions down before the match have anything to do with watching the game and news channels? Its main feature is so users can predict the scores and earn points. Its like a competition between the sports members.

Oh my apologies, I must confess I skimmed the third one as I'm not logged on vbulletin.org on this laptop. I still stand by the fact it is a small group who would benefit rather than the larger community.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:19 PM
Oh my apologies, I must confess I skimmed the third one as I'm not logged on vbulletin.org on this laptop. I still stand by the fact it is a small group who would benefit rather than the larger community.

Most members here wont be members on vB.org thats why I posted the screenshots here for them :).
Its what Adam said, its the same as the arcade but for the sports members.

The arcade is rarely used. Lets be honest, only a minority use it but that exists.

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Most members here wont be members on vB.org thats why I posted the screenshots here for them :).
Its what Adam said, its the same as the arcade but for the sports members.

The arcade is rarely used. Lets be honest, only a minority use it but that exists.

The arcade is also far too restrictive which probably causes this, I know of users who just don't bother as they know they will get hooked and the limits aren't enough - limits will soon be lifted though.

HotelUser
18-05-2010, 07:24 PM
I think the first two sound awesome, but not everyone likes or follows football!

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:25 PM
The arcade is also far too restrictive which probably causes this, I know of users who just don't bother as they know they will get hooked and the limits aren't enough - limits will soon be lifted though.

It wasnt used much before either when there was no limits ;). Thats why they wiped the scores in the middle to try and get it more active but it didnt work.


I think the first two sound awesome, but not everyone likes or follows football!

But its the most talked about sport in the Sports section :)

Adamm
18-05-2010, 07:36 PM
I think the first two sound awesome, but not everyone likes or follows football!
not everyone likes the arcade either.

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 07:39 PM
not everyone likes the arcade either.

But it has the scope to be liked by every forum member whereas the football add-on would only be liked by a small community and in all fairness add-ons should benefit all, or at least have the capacity to do so.

Alkaz
18-05-2010, 07:40 PM
First and second seem like alrite ideas :)

Adamm
18-05-2010, 07:49 PM
But it has the scope to be liked by every forum member whereas the football add-on would only be liked by a small community and in all fairness add-ons should benefit all, or at least have the capacity to do so.
Yay!

Wonderful news.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 07:58 PM
But it has the scope to be liked by every forum member whereas the football add-on would only be liked by a small community and in all fairness add-ons should benefit all, or at least have the capacity to do so.

Lets be honest with ourselves here, arcade is not popular. It hasn't been every time its been tried. Its been tried by so many Forum Management before but they have failed to make it popular every time. Why? Because people get bored after playing once or twice.

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 08:00 PM
Lets be honest with ourselves here, arcade is not popular. It hasn't been every time its been tried. Its been tried by so many Forum Management before but they have failed to make it popular every time. Why? Because people get bored after playing once or twice.

The tournaments we ran over easter got full quite quick though, so perhaps it does just need more attention to it.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 08:03 PM
The tournaments we ran over easter got full quite quick though, so perhaps it does just need more attention to it.

People only joined because of the prizes ;). If you look at the custom user made ones, they weren't that popular as they offered no prizes.
Either way, it will be good to see Sports Members opinions.

Stephen
18-05-2010, 08:06 PM
I'm not bothered about the football thing. But I think I'd use it even though I don't post in the sports forum. Maybe have it so you can only access it by going into the sports forum?

Inseriousity.
18-05-2010, 08:08 PM
If it doesn't take too much space on the [insert insanely cool techie word here] then don't really see a problem with any of the three tbh. Sure, the majority of people may not like sport but that doesn't mean the majority should just ignore the minority.

W00TZEH
18-05-2010, 08:11 PM
The third one I don't like at at all, it's too much in my opinion, the sports forum isn't that huge of a community :)

It's bigger than 90% of all other 'communities'
Football one would be great for the world cup, and league matches would have to be limited to English leagues.

Hecktix
18-05-2010, 08:14 PM
It's bigger than 90% of all other 'communities'
Football one would be great for the world cup, and league matches would have to be limited to English leagues.

Which is quite bad considering with the Habbo merge we will be changing into an International fansite.

This really does benefit a minority of users and I can't see it happening, sorry guys.

Stephen
18-05-2010, 08:16 PM
What is bad about getting it though? If you're worried that it would look weird having it listed on the top menu then do what I said and have it as a redirection forum in the sports forum

Adamm
18-05-2010, 08:22 PM
What is bad about getting it though? If you're worried that it would look weird having it listed on the top menu then do what I said and have it as a redirection forum in the sports forum
Too much hassle to please the 'minority'.

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 08:23 PM
Sports forum is a large part of this forum.

Adamm
18-05-2010, 08:33 PM
I know that.
You know that.

Mathew
18-05-2010, 08:40 PM
First and second addons look useful. Making the donator system easier and saving the mods a task.

Even though I don't use the Sports forum, I think it would be a good idea for the people who actually do use it. They seem to be a small group who stay in the sports forum, minding their own business - give them something back :P I also think it would be particularly good with the World Cup coming up - or is there something similar being planned..? Hmm..

Adamm
18-05-2010, 08:40 PM
First and second addons look useful. Making the donator system easier and saving the mods a task.

Even though I don't use the Sports forum, I think it would be a good idea for the people who actually do use it. They seem to be a small group who stay in the sports forum, minding their own business - give them something back :P I also think it would be particularly good with the World Cup coming up - or is there something similar being planned..? Hmm..
we usually have a fantasy football / sweepstakes for things like this in our own little world.

FlyingJesus
18-05-2010, 10:09 PM
Buying donator for others is something that I've long thought would be useful as poor Brandon's had to switch around my VIP/donator stuff in the past and it would be easier for everyone if this wasn't a necessary process. Double post merge may be useful but isn't a huge problem as far as I'm aware, perhaps a nice addition if management feel that plugins and such are the way forward but it's not something we can't live without. The football thing might be nice for those who actually use the sports section, but if you lot feel that strongly about it then I doubt it's anything you can't sort out in a thread rather than a full program.

immense
18-05-2010, 10:12 PM
HxF has something that no other fansite does. With all due respect to all other official fansites, their sports forums are crap. It's something that can be built on and I think the 3rd add on would be really nice touch. It would make it more fun for newer members who have an interest in sport to get involved also. I really think HxF can build on making the sports forum (a very good forum) bigger and better. Sure it would only please the minority but this minority, generally speaking, are older members who have done a fair bit for Habbox. I know it won't help or enhance the visit to Habbox of many users but I'm all for it :)

Tintinnabulate
18-05-2010, 10:16 PM
I have installed a demo which you can see
http://saurav.co.uk/foot/vbsoccer.php
It has the world cup.
Register and try it.

You can select which leagues you want in admincp.

Btw it took less than 5 minutes to install.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 06:52 PM
Idc about numbers on or two.

But seriously are you mad? How can management POSSIBLY even suggest rejecting option 3. That would the the BEST feature this forum has had in a LONG time. I would LOVE to have that third one. What leagues can you choose to bet on Saurav?? I would generally adore it. +Rep Saurav, and as I think it was Jake who said it, new members, imo, would love this sort of thing if they have an interest in sport. You could give a month of vip or something for whoever has the most points each month. Please please please please bring in the third addon :)

EDIT: Seen now about the leagues. I am all for it as long as we, during the english football season, can have league 2, 1 and championship? After all now all fans support Manchester United (well most do but anyway).

Also I can see it being very popular in the world cup, even people who are not mad football fans would like it I think.

Nixt
19-05-2010, 06:55 PM
We're going to consider installing this third addon for the world cup.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 06:55 PM
Idc about numbers on or two.

But seriously are you mad? How can management POSSIBLY even suggest rejecting option 3. That would the the BEST feature this forum has had in a LONG time. I would LOVE to have that third one. What leagues can you choose to bet on Saurav?? I would generally adore it. +Rep Saurav, and as I think it was Jake who said it, new members, imo, would love this sort of thing if they have an interest in sport. You could give a month of vip or something for whoever has the most points each month. Please please please please bring in the third addon :)

It has pretty much all of them. I have managed to persuade them (after a lot of begging and being hated by them now (H)) to reconsider it. However if they do it, it will only be for the World Cup.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 06:58 PM
It has pretty much all of them. I have managed to persuade them (after a lot of begging and being hated by them now (H)) to reconsider it. However if they do it, it will only be for the World Cup.

To be honest, I think hey are being pathetic saying 'it will be 100% definite that it will only be for the world cup'.. That's stupid - it's hardly a terrorist threat if e have it for longer..

And to whatever *REMOVED* in the other thread that said about if you are real football fans then surely you could organise this in a thread, don't be so dumb. Clearly people don't realise there are like 46 odd games a week, that would be havoc..

Edited by Nicola (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude about others.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:00 PM
To be honest, I think hey are being pathetic saying 'it will be 100% definite that it will only be for the world cup'.. That's stupid - it's hardly a terrorist threat if e have it for longer..

And to whatever idiot in the other thread that said about if you are real football fans then surely you could organise this in a thread, don't be so dumb. Clearly people don't realise there are like 46 odd games a week, that would be havoc..

Doing it in a thread is no way possible. It would involved 960 calculations just for the group stages if only 20 members enter.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:02 PM
The football add-on will be used for a World Cup Competition, and it will only use the World Cup games. It will then be uninstalled after the world cup and myself and General Management have many reasons for this, if you'd like to read the two dedicated threads to this add-on you will see them.

We will be adding it for the World Cup, however it will be going after and this is non-negotiable.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:04 PM
Doing it in a thread is no way possible. It would involved 960 calculations just for the group stages if only 20 members enter.

Yeh I know that's what I am saying *REMOVED* lol.

Edited by Nicola (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude about others.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:06 PM
Yeh I know that's what I am saying*REMOVED* lol.

Lol. Atleast we will have it for the World Cup :).

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:08 PM
Just want to point out, thanks for the infraction for saying 'whatever idiot' next time I will lick management's arse xx :S

I think the reasoning for refusing it is stupid, go over to America and come back and tell me that they don't follow English football, in general more than 'soccer', and singapore and aussie's? Oh please.

Sounds more like a reason just because most of management don't like football.

Oh wow two posts and two infractions.

I would of thought 1 would have been enough considering it was the same thing lol

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:10 PM
Just want to point out, thanks for the infraction for saying 'whatever idiot' next time I will lick management's arse xx :S

I think the reasoning for refusing it is stupid, go over to America and come back and tell me that they don't follow English football, in general more than 'soccer', and singapore and aussie's? Oh please.

Sounds more like a reason just because most of management don't like football.

You are wrong, most of the forum don't like football and follow it to the extent they would use an add-on weekly.

Most people follow the World Cup which is why it is being added for the World Cup, and the World Cup only. This isn't really up for discussion, the discussion's happened, if you'd like to see it, as I said view the two threads which were subsequently closed.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:10 PM
Just want to point out, thanks for the infraction for saying 'whatever idiot' next time I will lick management's arse xx :S

I think the reasoning for refusing it is stupid, go over to America and come back and tell me that they don't follow English football, in general more than 'soccer', and singapore and aussie's? Oh please.

Sounds more like a reason just because most of management don't like football.

All my cousins in India follow English football too. Lets see how popular it is over the WC. If it turns out no one ends up using it, it will be pointless.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:11 PM
You are wrong, most of the forum don't like football and follow it to the extent they would use an add-on weekly.

Most people follow the World Cup which is why it is being added for the World Cup, and the World Cup only. This isn't really up for discussion, the discussion's happened, if you'd like to see it, as I said view the two threads which were subsequently closed.

That's the point, they were closed :l

Most the forum don't like a lot of changes, but you still do them.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:11 PM
That's the point, they were closed :l

Most the forum don't like a lot of changes, but you still do them.

Example please.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:18 PM
Example please.

I think he means that if its already installed, you may aswell leave it and let them use it as it requires no input from members of staff. Anyway, thank you for agreeing for the World Cup :).

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:30 PM
Example please.

You only need to trawl over feedback for examples :l

And thanks Saurav.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:31 PM
You only need to trawl over feedback for examples :l

And thanks Saurav.

Nope, I'm not seeing any "OMG WHY DID YOU CHANGE THIS" in feedback.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:35 PM
Nope, I'm not seeing any "OMG WHY DID YOU CHANGE THIS" in feedback.

I think the Chat is a very good example. It was added without input from members and it was a failure.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:35 PM
Nope, I'm not seeing any "OMG WHY DID YOU CHANGE THIS" in feedback.

Apparently you haven't looked very well.

The general point is there is no problem with this add on, who gives a toss if 5 american people want all their leagues? The majority of the forum will remain English (don'[t even bother thinking here will be a flood oif American's, sadly for you it's just not going to happen.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:39 PM
Apparently you haven't looked very well.

The general point is there is no problem with this add on, who gives a toss if 5 american people want all their leagues? The majority of the forum will remain English (don'[t even bother thinking here will be a flood oif American's, sadly for you it's just not going to happen.

Ahh, so you can't back it up with evidence then, didn't think so :)

The general point is the football add-on is being added for the world cup (which a lot of forum users will use) and being removed after the world cup as most users aren't interested, and that's the way it's staying. Tbh it's something we're even adding it for the World Cup.

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:42 PM
Ahh, so you can't back it up with evidence then, didn't think so :)

The general point is the football add-on is being added for the world cup (which a lot of forum users will use) and being removed after the world cup as most users aren't interested, and that's the way it's staying. Tbh it's something we're even adding it for the World Cup.

After the world cup and the beta trial, would you be willing to do a poll with the notice (quite similar to the user rank one) to get a lot of people to vote to see if they will use it? That way we can be certain if the majority will use it or not.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:43 PM
After the world cup and the beta trial, would you be willing to do a poll with the notice (quite similar to the user rank one) to get a lot of people to vote to see if they will use it? That way we can be certain if the majority will use it or not.

General Management have said that the feature will not be used after the World Cup and that that decision will not be changing.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:44 PM
Ahh, so you can't back it up with evidence then, didn't think so :)

The general point is the football add-on is being added for the world cup (which a lot of forum users will use) and being removed after the world cup as most users aren't interested, and that's the way it's staying. Tbh it's something we're even adding it for the World Cup.

The fact that over the past year there must have been THOUSANDS of changes, I can hardly pick every thread. But you have to be a compete fool f you can honestly say the members love every change.

You don't realise that just because people don't post in the sports forum much, that doesn't mean they don'#t love it?

I hardly ever post in the section, since it's asking for an infraction because the moderation is so pathetically tight, however if this came in where I wouldn't have to post, it would be fun etc I would do it.

If habbox want to keep u with other fansites after the merge they need to stop being dumb and install a few add ons - let's be honest over the last year clubhabbo has caught up hugely with habbox.

And I think saurav posted states not too long ago PROVING that.

And if CH is getting more posting members than habbox, then clearly (I never thought I would say this) they are doing something right.

Barmi
19-05-2010, 07:44 PM
After the world cup and the beta trial, would you be willing to do a poll with the notice (quite similar to the user rank one) to get a lot of people to vote to see if they will use it? That way we can be certain if the majority will use it or not.

I don't think that's necessary. Management can see how actively it gets used. It's pointless asking people if they want to keep it, if same people didn't actually use it.

@Android: are you sure you're on the right forum? We get the same accusations thrown our way too.

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:46 PM
The fact that over the past year there must have been THOUSANDS of changes, I can hardly pick every thread. But you have to be a compete fool f you can honestly say the members love every change.

You don't realise that just because people don't post in the sports forum much, that doesn't mean they don'#t love it?

I hardly ever post in the section, since it's asking for an infraction because the moderation is so pathetically tight, however if this came in where I wouldn't have to post, it would be fun etc I would do it.

If habbox want to keep u with other fansites after the merge they need to stop being dumb and install a few add ons - let's be honest over the last year clubhabbo has caught up hugely with habbox.

And I think saurav posted states not too long ago PROVING that.

And if CH is getting more posting members than habbox, then clearly (I never thought I would say this) they are doing something right.

Nope, still not finding any changes that the majority of users seem to dislike... apart from several under the management of ---MAD---, but hey, that was so 2007.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Oli so you are saying no matter how many people like it, you won't change your decision? That is plain stupid. IF it is a huge flop then I will 100% agree you guys made the right choice, but I think the fact you are saying no before we even know if it is good is pathetic.

EDIT: I think you will find there was quite a lot of moaning after the change to vB 4.0/4.1 whatever the update was

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 07:48 PM
Oli so you are saying no matter how many people like it, you won't change your decision? That is plain stupid. IF it is a huge flop then I will 100% agree you guys made the right choice, but I think the fact you are saying no before we even know if it is good is pathetic.

I think it's pretty obvious that there will be a majority of the forum that follow the world cup, yet a minority that follow English league football. Period. The decision is final. It's for a one of competition and that's how it's going to stay.

Jamesy
19-05-2010, 07:49 PM
EDIT: I think you will find there was quite a lot of moaning after the change to vB 4.0/4.1 whatever the update was

vB4 was an enormous change and so I was not suprised to see it receive some negative attention. That's died down now people have become accustomed to it. Furthermore that was not a decision taken by the current forum management / general management teams.

FlyingJesus
19-05-2010, 07:49 PM
Only recent change I can think of that people hated was slackening up on the filter when certain abbreviations were allowed for a while, but that was always a stupid plan.

xxMATTGxx
19-05-2010, 07:49 PM
I can't believe we are still going on about this when we have already said it would probably be installed for the world cup only, until then there is no point debating that we should see how popular it is and if we should keep it on the forum after the WC. We may as well not install it!


Oli so you are saying no matter how many people like it, you won't change your decision? That is plain stupid. IF it is a huge flop then I will 100% agree you guys made the right choice, but I think the fact you are saying no before we even know if it is good is pathetic.

EDIT: I think you will find there was quite a lot of moaning after the change to vB 4.0/4.1 whatever the update was

Only because they didn't like the way it was looking and everything, not many people do like "big" changes. Although many members got used to Vb 4 within the first week or so after the upgrade. :)

Tintinnabulate
19-05-2010, 07:53 PM
I think it is best to wait till after the WC. If it turns out its hugely popular, management might change their mind. However, lets not fool ourselves here, majority of this forum are English and they follow English football. Chances are if they use it for the World Cup, they will use it for the normal leagues too.

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 07:54 PM
vB4 was an enormous change and so I was not suprised to see it receive some negative attention. That's died down now people have become accustomed to it. Furthermore that was not a decision taken by the current forum management / general management teams.

Big change doesn't always mean bad things. Again, people don't actually like the changes still. I am not saying I don't as I personally LOVE upgrades :P However many still dislike things, an I know for sure many satill hate those isgusting userbars lol.


I can't believe we are still going on about this when we have already said it would probably be installed for the world cup only, until then there is no point debating that we should see how popular it is and if we should keep it on the forum after the WC. We may as well not install it!



Only because they didn't like the way it was looking and everything, not many people do like "big" changes. Although many members got used to Vb 4 within the first week or so after the upgrade. :)

Most users still ate the userbars. Just every time it get's mentioned you end up getting PM's telling you off :l

I just hate how it has been shot down that there is no chance of keeping it after the world cup - only a complete ****** would do that. It could for all you know be the biggest, most popular feature every installed/added to habbox. But then you wouldn't want it, as Oli has said there is 100% no way of habbox keeping it.

Jamesy
19-05-2010, 07:57 PM
Big change doesn't always mean bad things. Again, people don't actually like the changes still. I am not saying I don't as I personally LOVE upgrades :P However many still dislike things, an I know for sure many satill hate those isgusting userbars lol.



Most users still ate the userbars. Just every time it get's mentioned you end up getting PM's telling you off :l

I just hate how it has been shot down that there is no chance of keeping it after the world cup - only a complete ****** would do that. It could for all you know be the biggest, most popular feature every installed/added to habbox. But then you wouldn't want it, as Oli has said there is 100% no way of habbox keeping it.

In my mind you are now scraping the bottom of the barrel with unsubstantiated claims of management mishandling and abuse. There was a U-Turn in installing it, so I don't honestly see what the problem is.

xxMATTGxx
19-05-2010, 07:57 PM
Big change doesn't always mean bad things. Again, people don't actually like the changes still. I am not saying I don't as I personally LOVE upgrades :P However many still dislike things, an I know for sure many satill hate those isgusting userbars lol.



Most users still ate the userbars. Just every time it get's mentioned you end up getting PM's telling you off :l

I just hate how it has been shot down that there is no chance of keeping it after the world cup - only a complete ****** would do that. It could for all you know be the biggest, most popular feature every installed/added to habbox. But then you wouldn't want it, as Oli has said there is 100% no way of habbox keeping it.

Why would you get PM's telling you off when you mention you hate the userbars? Unless you are doing it in a rude and aggressive manner. :S

AgnesIO
19-05-2010, 08:00 PM
In my mind you are now scraping the bottom of the barrel with unsubstantiated claims of management mishandling and abuse. There was a U-Turn in installing it, so I don't honestly see what the problem is.

You mind is apparently wrong. I have never said management abuse people? If I thought management abused people I wouldn't have donated so much towards habbox.. My problem is how you refuse to even consider it after, without a half decent reason.


Why would you get PM's telling you off when you mention you hate the userbars? Unless you are doing it in a rude and aggressive manner. :S

Hate to tell you but members that are over 12 don't consider things like 'for **** sake just listen to me for one minute' as the worlds most horrible thing. Wen if I now said 'for god sake...' it would be fine. But anyway.

xxMATTGxx
19-05-2010, 08:07 PM
You mind is apparently wrong. I have never said management abuse people? If I thought management abused people I wouldn't have donated so much towards habbox.. My problem is how you refuse to even consider it after, without a half decent reason.



Hate to tell you but members that are over 12 don't consider things like 'for **** sake just listen to me for one minute' as the worlds most horrible thing. Wen if I now said 'for god sake...' it would be fine. But anyway.

But there is no reason for that type of attitude on the forum though. If you have an issue with something that is on Habbox, then you state what it is and other members reply with their views. Then if its something that Management wish they feel that needs changing, then they will change it. Oli has already stated that the userbars won't be getting changed again for a reason.

jackass
19-05-2010, 08:07 PM
I agree with the first and second one, but the Football one just seems like something that really isn't needed for this forum. :P

Hecktix
19-05-2010, 08:14 PM
Right it's pretty clear that circles are starting to appear and tension is rising.

Management Decision

Add-on 1: Awaiting approval of Jin, likely to be installed
Add-on 2: Will be installed soon
Add-on 3: Will most probably be installed for a one-off World Cup Competition and removed after.

Thanks for all your input :)

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