Habboxlive - Scrapped head djs role

[Richie]

Do you think it was a good idea or a bad idea to have two assistant radio managers?


I personally think its ******ed, ahh sure make the whole three of them radio managers.... lol

[wiktoria]

There's gonna be a new head dj I think. I think it's a good idea and Gemma deserves it.

[myke]

No real need for it imo, it's like the same as the forum one, if there's a really good SMOD, they're not going to be turnt into asst. dept manager?

its confusing tbh

[Keri?!]

There's gonna be a new head dj I think. I think it's a good idea and Gemma deserves it.

I'm sure there wouldn't be, considering there's already 3 management now ;p

[xxMATTGxx]

The Head DJ role is non-existent no more. The role was pretty much the same as the Manager/Assistant Manager apart from the few things, since it is one of the largest departments at Habbox it was best to make Gemma the second Assistant and scrap the role of Head DJ. Gemma is also international which would be a benefit for when all of the English speaking hotels merge together and the two main UK Managers are offline. Not only that Gemma works hard and deserves the role.



No real need for it imo, it's like the same as the forum one, if there's a really good SMOD, they're not going to be turnt into asst. dept manager?

its confusing tbh

Well if the Forum Manager wishes to have an Assistant, it is normally one of the Super Moderators anyway. Although its not the same department, they are quite different. ;)

[Hecktix]

I think it's highly beneficial considering Gems,x is from Australia and can manage whilst Jess and Scott are in bed - it must have been quite a task for them to ensure that the radio is running well during these times - especially as from what I've seen they want to be making the radio a lot more active through the night to aid our international members.

[Nixt]

HabboxLive is a massive department. In the summer months it will consist of up to 50 members of staff. This is very difficult for two members of staff to manage. In fact, it has always been difficult for two members of staff to manage. Therefore the role of Head DJ existed to provide management support. At the end of the day it seems only fair that someone who is conducting a managerial role is given the official managerial position which allows them to execute their job properly. This is particularly beneficial given the fact that Gems is from an international background and, with the coming merge, catering for international users is extra important.

That extra layer of management in the department just confuses things, this makes much more sense overall.

The comparison to Super Moderator is null. Their position is nothing like that of Head DJ in comparison?

[Richie]

The Head DJ role is non-existent no more. The role was pretty much the same as the Manager/Assistant Manager apart from the few things, since it is one of the largest departments at Habbox it was best to make Gemma the second Assistant and scrap the role of Head DJ. Gemma is also international which would be a benefit for when all of the English speaking hotels merge together and the two main UK Managers are offline. Not only that Gemma works hard and deserves the role.




Well if the Forum Manager wishes to have an Assistant, it is normally one of the Super Moderators anyway. Although its not the same department, they are quite different. ;)


I think it's highly beneficial considering Gems,x is from Australia and can manage whilst Jess and Scott are in bed - it must have been quite a task for them to ensure that the radio is running well during these times - especially as from what I've seen they want to be making the radio a lot more active through the night to aid our international members.


HabboxLive is a massive department. In the summer months it will consist of up to 50 members of staff. This is very difficult for two members of staff to manage. In fact, it has always been difficult for two members of staff to manage. Therefore the role of Head DJ existed to provide management support. At the end of the day it seems only fair that someone who is conducting a managerial role is given the official managerial position which allows them to execute their job properly. This is particularly beneficial given the fact that Gems is from an international background and, with the coming merge, catering for international users is extra important.

That extra layer of management in the department just confuses things, this makes much more sense overall.

The comparison to Super Moderator is null. Their position is nothing like that of Head DJ in comparison?


HEY GUYS CAN U READ MY SIG TY

lol


oh nd about having 50 djs, is terrible imo too, what happens after summer if no1 resigns? nd i can only imagine how hard it is to get a slot now, when I worked there and there was like 30 djs it was hard enough getting slots.

but yh so is there gonna be 2 ass managers for other departments?

[Nixt]

2 Assistants will only be considered for departments that reach a considerable size and require it. There is no need for any other department to have two assistants at this point in time.

[xxMATTGxx]

HEY GUYS CAN U READ MY SIG TY

lol

but yh so is there gonna be 2 ass managers for other departments?

Only if we feel that department needs two Assistant managers, this is mainly for the large departments.

[Calvin]

Whats the difference between Senior DJs and Management? Its exactly like the Head DJ role isn't it? And it'd make more sense if you listed Gems as the International Radio Manager. Overall, I think its an alright idea but I think Senior DJs should also be scrapped as its exactly like the Head DJ role.

[myke]

alright blimey ... 8-)

the example directly relates... if you have an international one then make them afm and they can do the work that oli can't whilst he's in bed.

i'm not arguing because i'm out numbered ;l

[Grig]

I remember news once had 2 asst. managers in 2007, so wouldn't have been unheard of lol.

But I actually thought Head DJs was just management anyway without the extra forums and a slight bit less of perms. So I'm happy to see such a large hierarchy scrapped.

[Richie]

but the forum has a bigger community to look after than habboxlive.. and theres only one one manager and no assistant managers -shocked face-

[xxMATTGxx]

I remember news once had 2 asst. managers in 2007, so wouldn't have been unheard of lol.

But I actually thought Head DJs was just management anyway without the extra forums and a slight bit less of perms. So I'm happy to see such a large hierarchy scrapped.

This is what came to my head when I asked what the Head DJ roles were. Which is why this was decision made to make her the second Assistant Manager, nothing has "major" changed really! :)

[Hecktix]

but the forum has a bigger community to look after than habboxlive.. and theres only one one manager and no assistant managers -shocked face-

the community don't take much looking after, I can imagine 50 HxL staff do :P

[Nixt]

alright blimey ... 8-)

the example directly relates... if you have an international one then make them afm and they can do the work that oli can't whilst he's in bed.

i'm not arguing because i'm out numbered ;l

Oli doesn't need an AFM and the international argument is quite irrelevant in a sense. The forum doesn't require an international AFM because in fairness (right now) the forum is quieter in evenings and the majority of the role can be performed at whatever time :). The FM doesn't do any moderation. HabboxLive, on the other hand, has a large amount of international DJs and is attempting to run at full capacity in terms of DJing 24 hours a day.

But let's be clear, this wasn't the only reason she was promoted. She deserved the position and the position of Head DJ was pretty much management anyway.

[,Jess,]

Whats the difference between Senior DJs and Management? Its exactly like the Head DJ role isn't it? And it'd make more sense if you listed Gems as the International Radio Manager. Overall, I think its an alright idea but I think Senior DJs should also be scrapped as its exactly like the Head DJ role.

The senior DJ role is different to the Head DJ one, the Head DJ one was more like a manager role whereas the Senior DJs are there to help out DJs and offer support whilst reporting any rulebreaks on the radio and complaints. Management are then the ones that deal with the rulebreaks and stuff, Seniors don't do that.

[Richie]

YAS R LIKE A PACK OF GAY DOGS


nd calv +rep good point


the senior dj role is to make radio djs who put effort in feel special innit jessica haha

[myke]

Oli doesn't need an AFM and the international argument is quite irrelevant in a sense. The forum doesn't require an international AFM because in fairness (right now) the forum is quieter in evenings and the majority of the role can be performed at whatever time :). The FM doesn't do any moderation. HabboxLive, on the other hand, has a large amount of international DJs and is attempting to run at full capacity in terms of DJing 24 hours a day.

But let's be clear, this wasn't the only reason she was promoted. She deserved the position and the position of Head DJ was pretty much management anyway.

The idea of trying to run it 24 hours a day isn't a good idea... have you seen the listening stats so far? HxL used to be up in the 100s, now rarely does it hit the 100s. I mean there's 84 now, which is during half term time so imagine what it will be like non term time, about 30, so there's no need for it to run 24 hours a day and the international Habbo will be doing the same as you are just now, they will be gearing their sites up ready to try and grab some UK listeners and stuff, do you get my flow?

[scott]

Whats the difference between Senior DJs and Management? Its exactly like the Head DJ role isn't it? And it'd make more sense if you listed Gems as the International Radio Manager. Overall, I think its an alright idea but I think Senior DJs should also be scrapped as its exactly like the Head DJ role.

Good idea there. I loved being a part of the discussion in getting rid of such a big role within HabboxLive and also promoting someone. :rolleyes:

Well done gemma, you'll do good :)

[Richie]

The idea of trying to run it 24 hours a day isn't a good idea... have you seen the listening stats so far? HxL used to be up in the 100s, now rarely does it hit the 100s. I mean there's 84 now, which is during half term time so imagine what it will be like non term time, about 30, so there's no need for it to run 24 hours a day and the international Habbo will be doing the same as you are just now, they will be gearing their sites up ready to try and grab some UK listeners and stuff, do you get my flow?


its cos they fired me, na but rlly yh stats hav dropped rlly bad.



No offence to habbox management but the amount of terrible decisions they have made is ridiculous, its killing habbox innit, the amount of people who are getting fired for petty things needs sorting out too (I'm not referring to me, cos it was my own fault)

[xxMATTGxx]

Good idea there. I loved being a part of the discussion in getting rid of such a big role within HabboxLive and also promoting someone. :rolleyes:

Well done gemma, you'll do good :)

From my knowledge you were told last night. I do wonder why you never said anything until recent.

[scott]

From my knowledge you were told last night. I do wonder why you never said anything until recent.

Yeah i was told about a PM you sent to Jess which i have no idea why i wasn't included in? lol.. I was then told that it was still being discussed maybe i thought i might have been brought into a discussion about it rather than getting a PM asking her if she wanted to be promoted, nice one.

[immense]

i'm not sure it even needs a manager any more with the amount of listeners they get

[Richie]

i'm not sure it even needs a manager any more with the amount of listeners they get

lollll


gonna regret this ;l but +rep

[Nixt]

The idea of trying to run it 24 hours a day isn't a good idea... have you seen the listening stats so far? HxL used to be up in the 100s, now rarely does it hit the 100s. I mean there's 84 now, which is during half term time so imagine what it will be like non term time, about 30, so there's no need for it to run 24 hours a day and the international Habbo will be doing the same as you are just now, they will be gearing their sites up ready to try and grab some UK listeners and stuff, do you get my flow?

HabboxLive has always tried to cater for the international community and run for 24 hours a day. Nothing has changed.


hey have made imo, the amount of people who are getting fired for petty things needs sorting out too (I'm not referring to me, cos it was my own fault)

Do you want to cite some of these 'terrible' decisions. The Head DJ role is identical to that of Assistant Manager. NOTHING has changed apart from the title Gems has been given.

People are fired because they break rules. Don't break rules and they don't get fired. Again, this is no different to how it's always been.

[Calvin]

I think Habbox management need to communicate more because all the recent decisions they have made are rubbish and they don't bother to tell the other manager until its posted in the announcements forum.

[Grig]

Although the hierarchy is interesting because when I first started out the Head DJ and Senior DJ roles were different and I think they should have kept to a clear cut hierarchy from there. Head DJs became more management in the middle of 2007 I think if I remember correctly.

[Richie]

HabboxLive has always tried to cater for the international community and run for 24 hours a day. Nothing has changed.



Do you want to cite some of these 'terrible' decisions. The Head DJ role is identical to that of Assistant Manager. NOTHING has changed apart from the title Gems has been given.

People are fired because they break rules. Don't break rules and they don't get fired. Again, this is no different to how it's always been.

Peter it needs to be a little more lenient bud

[xxMATTGxx]

Peter it needs to be a little more lenient bud

Well if people don't listen to several private messages they receive for breaking the rules, then we wouldn't have an issue! :P

[Richie]

Well if people don't listen to several private messages they receive for breaking the rules, then we wouldn't have an issue! :P


but its like 'Lets fire loadsa our decent staff for posting pointlessly' although posting pointlessly is extreme : P

[Calvin]

Peter it needs to be a little more lenient budI agree with Richie, you need to be more lenient like lots of Staff have been fired for pointless posting recently which I think they should only recieve a reminder, not a warning.

[hah]

yeah its great that she is international and can help with international listeners, but first you need some international listeners. In the last month i dont think ive seen habbox go over 100 listeners and i can only imagine how many there is at night when "all these international listeners" tune in.

and 50 DJS ?? LOL You're acting like its the biggest radio around :L

[Catzsy]

but its like 'Lets fire loadsa our decent staff for posting pointlessly' although posting pointlessly is extreme : P


I agree with Richie, you need to be more lenient like lots of Staff have been fired for pointless posting recently which I think they should only recieve a reminder, not a warning.

Nobody knows why the staff were fired except them and the Management - it's all rumour and assumption but in any event staff should be much better behaved than the ordinary member as they are representing Habbox.

As to the appointment of a new assistant HXL manager I feel it makes perfect sense with the merge coming to have somebody on at night to keep the radio running & safe. A very good decision and a very neat bit of forward planning in anticipation of Habbox being able to capitalise on the merge and recruit more international members. We used to have an Smod from New Zealand which was fantastic as it meant the forum was covered at night.

[scott]

yeah its great that she is international and can help with international listeners, but first you need some international listeners. In the last month i dont think ive seen habbox go over 100 listeners and i can only imagine how many there is at night when "all these international listeners" tune in.

and 50 DJS ?? LOL You're acting like its the biggest radio around :L


One day last week we did have 140 listeners aroudn 3/4/5/6 something like that can't remember :p

[myke]

Nobody knows why the staff were fired except them and the Management - it's all rumour and assumption but in any event staff should be much better behaved than the ordinary member as they are representing Habbox.

As to the appointment of a new assistant HXL manager I feel it makes perfect sense with the merge coming to have somebody on at night to keep the radio running. A very good decision. We used to have an Smod from New Zealand which was fantastic as it meant the forum was covered at night.

Gems is rarely on during the night. She is on during the day (UK School Times) which is normally covered by Dinasaw and Jess....

[hah]

that whole representing habbox thing is a load of ****..... it makes all the staff seem like bumlicking mother ******* fake ***** :)
to put it nicely


@dinasaw - obv fixin the listeners ;l

[Richie]

that whole representing habbox thing is a load of ****..... it makes all the staff seem like bumlicking mother ******* fake ***** :)
to put it nicely


@dinasaw - obv fixin the listeners ;l

na bud i was staff then nd yh shes on in the morning

[Catzsy]

Gems is rarely on during the night. She is on during the day (UK School Times) which is normally covered by Dinasaw and Jess....

I thought she was from Australia?


that whole representing habbox thing is a load of ****..... it makes all the staff seem like bumlicking mother ******* fake ***** :)
to put it nicely


@dinasaw - obv fixin the listeners ;l

This is your opinion but in my view totally unfair and unjustified considering that the majority of the forum are well behaved which doesn't actually equate to them being fake or 'bumlicking' as you call it.

[Grig]

She's from my timezone, and is on from the UK mornings to evenings/afternoons more or less on weekdays- GMT+8/ BST+7 timezone

[Richie]

they should of hired a american ass manager if thats the case

[Grig]

The times that I've rarely seen covered by a member of radio management unless it's Gemma on a weekend or weekday holiday is from like 2/3ish am- 7/8 am UK time.

[hah]

I thought she was from Australia?



This is your opinion but in my view totally unfair and unjustified considering that the majority of the forum are well behaved which doesn't actually equate to them being fake or 'bumlicking' as you call it.


of course you would disagree :)
I have loads of staff on msn and they don't act like they do on the forum, which is my opinion is fake, but i dont blame them tho, they have to in order to keep their jobs ( i would probs do the same if i had a job init cus u have to). Im sure you do it to from the things I've heard :)

[xxMATTGxx]

I agree with Richie, you need to be more lenient like lots of Staff have been fired for pointless posting recently which I think they should only recieve a reminder, not a warning.

I don't believe lots of staff have been fired due to pointless posting. If staff wish to break the rules then they should expect to be punished in whatever way is necessary. We don't like firing staff a lot of the times but if they don't behave or listen to the warnings they get sent then action has to be taken.

[Catzsy]

of course you would disagree :)
I have loads of staff on msn and they don't act like they do on the forum, which is my opinion is fake, but i dont blame them tho, they have to in order to keep their jobs ( i would probs do the same if i had a job init cus u have to). Im sure you do it to from the things I've heard :)

Well. whatever you have heard - I don't. Perhaps you should listen to less gossip and ask me directly:P I have always spoken my mind, sometimes maybe too much, which is probably why I was fired in the past. Probably in private rather than on the public forum though. I agree with Matt on this - I am sure nobody likes firing anybody.

[immense]

i loved firing people made me feel so secure and powerful and safe from the outside world

[Black_Apalachi]

I'm sure Gemma does do a lot of UK night time as well because she was like my bezzie when I used to be an insomniac Habbo addict innit. Hi Gems :D

[Molly.22]

Habboxlive is the biggest department. With about 40 people if it hard to manage. With half international it makes sence that there is someone in management to be there at those times.

[Nixt]

Peter it needs to be a little more lenient bud

I assure you that I am lenient enough as it is. A couple of those fired recently, were admittedly, fired earlier than a lot of staff would have been. This is because I allowed them to be hired when they didn't have perfect records in the first place - something that didn't happen so often in the past. So I am lenient, but if I am to be lenient I also expect people to respect me by showing me that the trust I placed in them was not put in them wrongly.

Besides, with respect you do not know the full scale of the situation and therefore have no real idea of the reason behind a lot of the decisions that have been made.

[immense]

can't criticise garion soz because under old regimes some of the people wouldn't have even allowed to be hired (i.e. YOUUUU richie)

[leah]

meh it seems odd scrapping a role that's always been there, it always worked well having two managers, 3 head DJs and about 6 senior DJs even when the staff toll was huge because it was always easily managed, that's why international head/senior DJs were hired. I do think Gemma is deserving of the role it's just a bit sad to see a roll scrapped thats always played a part in the department. Not only were head DJs a big asset to have to help management with reports and dishing out punishments but they were there as an option for management say a manager was fired or resigned. Now, the next time a new manager is hired you're gonna have to pick from seniors, and the transition from senior DJ to manager is a lot harder and broader than that from head DJ to manager.


adding on to the idea that staff are treated too strictly on habbox then i have to agree with that, no other site treats the staff this way, all staff here have to agree and be polite and somewhat mindless on the forum and on habbo and if they're seen to argue or even be rude to a degree punishment is always the result.

[Richie]

can't criticise garion soz because under old regimes some of the people wouldn't have even allowed to be hired (i.e. YOUUUU richie)

lol but I got fired straight away :P

I would of kicked up a fuss because I was fired unfairly maybe I shouldn't of been hired but I was, the only reason I'm not defending myself is cos i'd be putting the blame on ppl who probably wanted me to stay. Tbf though I don't deserve to be staff atm but being put on the dnhl is harsh, its not like i hacked anyone or actually got fired lol but whatever your inta jacinta.





adding on to the idea that staff are treated too strictly on habbox then i have to agree with that, no other site treats the staff this way, all staff here have to agree and be polite and somewhat mindless on the forum and on habbo and if they're seen to argue or even be rude to a degree punishment is always the result.

This. Only cos if they dnt agree they sound like they r being rude, so they can't lalala.

[hah]

yeah init....... staff account share as a joke on chf and only get 2day ban
here its a perm and 50 lashes

[Nixt]

Staff are expected to follow the forum rules the same way as any other members. They aren't asked to be mindless or anything, just follow the rules. We do enforce things to an extent on Habbo but when staff are in official Habbox rooms they are ambassadors of Habbox and should be behaving accordingly. Not to mention I don't want staff who are cautioned or temporarily banned?

I really do dislike it when people use the "well other fansites" comparison (sorry Leah). It's stupid. We aren't any other fansite. We are Habbox.

[Angel-Light]

Figured I'd add my tidbit from being Radio Management in the past :P

As people have mentioned the listener numbers are not very high during the day and in my honest opinion they will never be high during the night. Yes we have tried in the past to get DJs to DJ during the night (often times I would be up just streaming and that only got around 50 listeners). The best thing I believe would be either close the radio at a certain time of night or try and find a system that will play a list of songs (We had a system before where Auto-dj would kick in if a DJ was not on air).

In the Head DJ role being scrapped, it is stupid. Head DJs had the role of being a team leader and also a person who DJs could contact personally if any problems were to occur. Now this has been taken away and you have the big step of DJs > Senior DJs > Management. That is a hefty step to make and I know that the habbox staff are all about communication but in reality this does not work!

Onto another matter, I am sure Gems is brilliant at her job but I am very annoyed the fact that they say communication is key where they don't actually involve people who play a big part in the discussion until the last minute? Normally when choosing a high member of staff to promote, ALL of management is involved from the very start not right at the end where it is a simple yes or no answer.

To go back on topic, Head DJs should not really have the same job as Assistant Manager for security issues (I won't go into what I have heard about that) but I do believe Head DJs are a key role in helping run the department and assisting the Assistant Manager should the main manager be on holiday or something.

[myke]

didn't stu from Habboforum say something about users that work on fansites can't be called staff for legal reasons because they can sue or something... sorry that this has nothing to do with this but it kinda comes in with the bit about being 'staff' and behaving well and stuff.. and it was just in my head :S

Agreed with Angel-Light, the head dj was more of a peer mentor than someone of a higher position.

[Inseriousity.]

adding on to the idea that staff are treated too strictly on habbox then i have to agree with that, no other site treats the staff this way, all staff here have to agree and be polite and somewhat mindless on the forum and on habbo and if they're seen to argue or even be rude to a degree punishment is always the result.

I have to disagree with that, just ask poor roxy who has to put up with my arguments :p
Although I do agree that the punishment system seems to be really harsh. I don't know all the details but there seems to have been a lot of fired staff recently and I'm not sure if there's a balance between having fun (its only an online job after all) and doing the job that you applied for.

Anyway, as for scrapping the Head DJ role, this probably wasn't thought of at the last minute. It took me months before I decided to scrap the Senior Comps staff role to Assistant. It won't make much of a difference imo, I expect their roles will remain virtually the same. The only difference is the extra staff forums she gets to see, I expect! Well done Gemma :)

[-Nick]

Well on hxl staff the next head dj will be the next person in like e.g if dj rocker was at the front of senior djs she'll be asked if she wants the job as head dj that how I think it works like Scott was head and then he went up to assitant rm when melisa went pm for more help I carnt really explain ATM ian on ipod but I do think it's an idea becasue deptant growning big :P

thanks

nick

[immense]

at myke yeah. he was a control freak though. he said a flaw with fansites is they call their "volunteers" "staff", and they could go down unfair dismissal tribunals and all this lol can't really remember his explanations. i'm sure he knows what he's on about though (lol well he might do)

[Grig]

I think the problem was that over the past year or two the Head DJ role transfered to nearly management which was quite silly indeed and really that needed to be stopped whilst it was happening. The Head DJ role in its past form was always useful and vital with transition from that to management. Managers are management and no one else should be, I think it was quite silly to even start defining them that. Leah and Hayley brought perfect points out there. I think one manager and one assistant is too much, we shouldn't be making the management bigger, it should in my opinion be two managers, two Head DJs, 4-6 seniors and the rest. I am not doubting Gemma's hard work and effort here, I am simply stating this role of Head DJ did change too much into a managerial role and there should have been a platform kept between senior and managers.

[Pyroka]

Do you think it was a good idea or a bad idea to have two assistant radio managers?


I personally think its ******ed, ahh sure make the whole three of them radio managers.... lol

one radio manager

one assistant radio manager

one radio technician (i could be being stupid as thats probs jin lol)

and the rest all normal djs i mean come on i dont get the jip with head dj, what r u, better than everyone else or something? :S::S:S:S assistant radio manager should be doing the head djs job, and the whole senior dj and junior dj shouldnt exist, just keep ur titles to urself on who u think is a better dj than others. i mean the radio ppl know whos gna be better, why do u need to give them the equivelant of giving a 15 yr old a gold star sticky 2 wear on his head so he feels better than every1 else?

i mean thats just my 2 cents tho i have more cents in ma wallet i think its very silly and shud be RID OF despicable i say good day to u all

[myke]

one radio manager

one assistant radio manager

one radio technician (i could be being stupid as thats probs jin lol)

and the rest all normal djs i mean come on i dont get the jip with head dj, what r u, better than everyone else or something? :S::S:S:S assistant radio manager should be doing the head djs job, and the whole senior dj and junior dj shouldnt exist, just keep ur titles to urself on who u think is a better dj than others. i mean the radio ppl know whos gna be better, why do u need to give them the equivelant of giving a 15 yr old a gold star sticky 2 wear on his head so he feels better than every1 else?

i mean thats just my 2 cents tho i have more cents in ma wallet i think its very silly and shud be RID OF despicable i say good day to u all

ryan was you drunk when you wrote this? :l

ya don't get the jist do you?

the senior dj's are like the moderators of the radio, they make sure that any complaints are dealt with and report errors or problems that occur, e.g. swearing on the radio and generally offer support to the dj's if any of it is needed.

the head dj does all the 'paperwork' side of it i guess and is more of a mentor for the seniors and 'juniors' as you put it.

thts all i can remember, it's early

[scott]

one radio manager

one assistant radio manager

one radio technician (i could be being stupid as thats probs jin lol)

and the rest all normal djs i mean come on i dont get the jip with head dj, what r u, better than everyone else or something? :S::S:S:S assistant radio manager should be doing the head djs job, and the whole senior dj and junior dj shouldnt exist, just keep ur titles to urself on who u think is a better dj than others. i mean the radio ppl know whos gna be better, why do u need to give them the equivelant of giving a 15 yr old a gold star sticky 2 wear on his head so he feels better than every1 else?

i mean thats just my 2 cents tho i have more cents in ma wallet i think its very silly and shud be RID OF despicable i say good day to u all

Senior DJs are there to help other DJs as well as reporting stuff to management that was going on the radio. If swearing etc is played then the senior DJs will report it, then the head DJ would send warnings or private messages.

I agree with quite a lot of the points here in the fact that now when someone resigns it's going to be going straight from Senior DJ to Management, which is one huge gap, from reporting a few DJs to having to fire/hire/manage a site/warn DJs etc. I still don't think it should have been scrapped but hey!

[xxMATTGxx]

didn't stu from Habboforum say something about users that work on fansites can't be called staff for legal reasons because they can sue or something... sorry that this has nothing to do with this but it kinda comes in with the bit about being 'staff' and behaving well and stuff.. and it was just in my head :S

Agreed with Angel-Light, the head dj was more of a peer mentor than someone of a higher position.


at myke yeah. he was a control freak though. he said a flaw with fansites is they call their "volunteers" "staff", and they could go down unfair dismissal tribunals and all this lol can't really remember his explanations. i'm sure he knows what he's on about though (lol well he might do)

He probably did mention that and maybe a ton of other things too knowing him. Although I do wonder why Sulake didn't force this from day one really? If this is the case but nevermind. I don't know much about these laws and regulations in regarding calling it "staff".


I think the problem was that over the past year or two the Head DJ role transfered to nearly management which was quite silly indeed and really that needed to be stopped whilst it was happening. The Head DJ role in its past form was always useful and vital with transition from that to management. Managers are management and no one else should be, I think it was quite silly to even start defining them that. Leah and Hayley brought perfect points out there. I think one manager and one assistant is too much, we shouldn't be making the management bigger, it should in my opinion be two managers, two Head DJs, 4-6 seniors and the rest. I am not doubting Gemma's hard work and effort here, I am simply stating this role of Head DJ did change too much into a managerial role and there should have been a platform kept between senior and managers.


Senior DJs are there to help other DJs as well as reporting stuff to management that was going on the radio. If swearing etc is played then the senior DJs will report it, then the head DJ would send warnings or private messages.

I agree with quite a lot of the points here in the fact that now when someone resigns it's going to be going straight from Senior DJ to Management, which is one huge gap, from reporting a few DJs to having to fire/hire/manage a site/warn DJs etc. I still don't think it should have been scrapped but hey!

The Head DJ role was too management like and therefore Gemma may of well of had the title as "Assistant Radio Manager". Maybe this is something we should of enforced to be changed, that might be something for the future if any of them decide to resign. Regarding the point Dinasaw is making when someone resigns they would go straight to Management, that won't be the case straight away. You mention its a huge gap but isn't that like Super Moderator > Assistant Forum Manager though? (My example) The role changes, you don't really moderate and you do the Management side of things. Which they can learn from the Manager or whoever.

[Andii]

i think its better and as Oli said yea its great that Gemma can look after the radio when Jess n Scotty are sleeping lol. Becasue Bascially Gemma is looking after the Internation Djs and Scotty is looking after the Uk djs. They Should actually have a International Radio Manager tbh

[Black_Apalachi]

Adzeh would have the answer.

[Grig]

Adzeh would have the answer.

Most true post ever- plus rep is needed here!!!

Although the gap is much wider between senior DJ and manager to super mod and manager.

[scott]

He probably did mention that and maybe a ton of other things too knowing him. Although I do wonder why Sulake didn't force this from day one really? If this is the case but nevermind. I don't know much about these laws and regulations in regarding calling it "staff".





The Head DJ role was too management like and therefore Gemma may of well of had the title as "Assistant Radio Manager". Maybe this is something we should of enforced to be changed, that might be something for the future if any of them decide to resign. Regarding the point Dinasaw is making when someone resigns they would go straight to Management, that won't be the case straight away. You mention its a huge gap but isn't that like Super Moderator > Assistant Forum Manager though? (My example) The role changes, you don't really moderate and you do the Management side of things. Which they can learn from the Manager or whoever.

Not at all, DJs& Senior DJs are basically moderators, moderators edit/djs dj, moderators report things/senior djs report things. SMOD and Senior DJs are one hell of a lot of difference lol.

[xxMATTGxx]

Not at all, DJs& Senior DJs are basically moderators, moderators edit/djs dj, moderators report things/senior djs report things. SMOD and Senior DJs are one hell of a lot of difference lol.


It was an example scott. I wasn't saying they were the same as one is "forum" and the other is "radio".

[scott]

I know but you're using them in comparison to each other when they are actually quite different in every way :P

[xxMATTGxx]

I know but you're using them in comparison to each other when they are actually quite different in every way :P

I was saying that the transision is like the same.

Super Moderator does everything an SMOD do. Then they get asked if they want to be Manager or Assistant then they have to learn the ropes on what that job has to do. Then stop doing most of the tasks of what they used to do.

I would of thought the same would apply to Senior to Management. :P

[Nixt]

Agreed with Angel-Light, the head dj was more of a peer mentor than someone of a higher position.

The Head DJ was not a peer mentor though, it was another pointless layer of management. By promoting Gems we have simply eradicated a layer of management that was doing the position of a manager anyway. It was that or force the change in role completely and then the role of Head DJ would have become obsolete as it wouldn't be much different to Senior DJ.

The jump from Staff to Manager is essentially the same in any other department. I see no reason why it's any different in HxL.

[,Jess,]

I think that the Head DJ role developed into a managerial one because that was what was needed and it has been beneficial to HabboxLive which is why it has been scrapped because it is a lot of work, the Senior > Asst jump may seem big but really Senior DJs get to see and know how things work and have normally been at HabboxLive for a while so will pick up things. There will always be an adjustment when someone gets made manager because it is different but I don't think going from senior to asst manager will affect people that badly because the person that is picked is going to be the person best for the role and is obviously already going to have qualities that a manager would need.

[Hecktix]

To back Matt's point up, the jump from Super Moderator to Assistant Forum Manager is phenomenal - I've been there and done that - and it worked well so I see no reason for this not working as long as the right Senior DJ is chosen for the job.