E3

[Fez]

There's a little sneak peek at the MGS-3DS game here: http://kotaku.com/5564183/checking-out-metal-gear-solid-on-the-nintendo-3ds

[kk.]

In the US the price differences are more dramatic, at least i believe they are ;). Sorry, + Rep anyway :)


errrmm....its not a new iteration of the DS.....its a sequel to the DS.....it is a new console....

there is a major difference between a new console, and a new handheld console.. the technology is completely different

[Neil]

The fanboyism in this thread is just ridiculous, some people need to grow up seriously.

To be honest no one "wins" E3, it's not a competition it's a conference to show of what they're bringing out and what they're working on, God some of you guys are sad.

Looking forward to getting some of the stuff they discussed, like Kinect, 360 Slim and Fable 3 but you guys know you can read about it on any games website like half an hour after the event is on right?

[MrPinkPanther]

there is a major difference between a new console, and a new handheld console.. the technology is completely different

''/. A handheld console is just that. A console. Its different to a Home Console sure but its still a console. I believe handhelds outsell home consoles anyway.

[dbgtz]

I will admit the 3DS will affect 3d gaming and tbh I think they could adapt this in future so we don't need glasses. Did they say the cost by any chance?

Also @the 360vsWii thing most people will go for the hard drive really, for example halo+dlc>need a hdd that's how alot of them will see it imo. But I also think the 360 as a machine is pretty poor with quite a repetitive library apart from the odd few which tend to be crap or flop like ****. The 360 probably has the tighest target market imo.

@Above they do because they're generally cheaper. The PSP just sucks and will never live to the DS.


I'm not liking naked snake on the 3DS :(. PS3 better get some snake bites soon.

[Niall!]

My mistake, I thought you were a Microsoft fanboy.

Still, Nintendo has won. There shall be no arguing because it's impossible to beat a presentation which showed hardly anything but GAMES.

[Chris]

Whats happened to the lived stream on youtube? It's gone!

[kk.]

''/. A handheld console is just that. A console. Its different to a Home Console sure but its still a console. I believe handhelds outsell home consoles anyway.

they outsell more because theyre handheld.. they tend to be cheaper, as well as the games being cheaper. you cant compare the two because theyre completely different.

[MrPinkPanther]

Assassins Creed
Saints row
Mario Kart
Animal Crossing
Nintendogs
Ninja Gaiden
Kingdom Hearts
Paper Mario
Star Fox
Pilot Wings
Kid Icarus
Metal Gear Solid
Professor Laton
Street Fighter
Driver
Resident Evil.

If that isn't one hell of a lineup then i don't know what is.

[kk.]

I will admit the 3DS will affect 3d gaming and tbh I think they could adapt this in future so we don't need glasses. Did they say the cost by any chance?

Also @the 360vsWii thing most people will go for the hard drive really, for example halo+dlc>need a hdd that's how alot of them will see it imo. But I also think the 360 as a machine is pretty poor with quite a repetitive library apart from the odd few which tend to be crap or flop like ****. The 360 probably has the tighest target market imo.

@Above they do because they're generally cheaper. The PSP just sucks and will never live to the DS.


I'm not liking naked snake on the 3DS :(. PS3 better get some snake bites soon.

TVs are in development and probably use the same technology as the 3DS so you can view without glasses.

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My mistake, I thought you were a Microsoft fanboy.

Still, Nintendo has won. There shall be no arguing because it's impossible to beat a presentation which showed hardly anything but GAMES.

i think sony will probably have a lot of games lined up to show us tbh. Hopefully they dont focus too much on move and 3D though

[dbgtz]

I think the 3D thing will just flow in with the games that are in 3d.

And someone link me to where I can see Sony.

[kk.]

I think the 3D thing will just flow in with the games that are in 3d.

And someone link me to where I can see Sony.

you ask every time. just use the same links provided. the youtube one will be back in a bit, and the gametrailers one you just click the sony logo..

[dbgtz]

I didn't see a gametrailers link and one of them was nintendo
I cant find it on gt either and I want one just in case the utube doesn't go back up.

[kk.]

http://www.gametrailers.com/e3/livefeed/sony

[samsaBEAR]

The youtube one worked today and yesterday

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Oh god I already don't like this guy

[Chris]

Youtubes working now. ctrl+F5 should work.

[Neil]

Youtubes working now. ctrl+F5 should work.

You don't need to hit ctrl you know.

[Muct]

Not everyone has the same key mappings as you ^

I had to press Ctrl too.

[samsaBEAR]

Not everyone has the same key mappings as you ^

I had to press Ctrl too.
Ctrl+F5, and just F5 do two different things, he's just saying he didn't have to press Ctrl

[Muct]

And ****, this game is so cool.

EDIT: He didn't say he didn't press it, hes saying you dont have to, how do you know he even tried it? :S

[dbgtz]

KZ3 looks amazing and by the reaction I imagine the 3d was good AND move wow! Quite quickly too.

[samsaBEAR]

Oh does it even matter. Killzone 3 looks pretty cool, when I played the first one I didn't realise it would blow up to be a series this big haha

[kk.]

GT5 in 3D. confirmed now i guess lol

[samsaBEAR]

Lol yeah, wonder when it'll come out though. The glasses look stupid

[dbgtz]

Crysis 2 in 3d too, might just get it now lol and considering it's "amazing graphics" (obv I havn't played it so).

[samsaBEAR]

Whatever was just demoed I missed completely because the livestream went wonky, what did they show?

[Neil]

Crysis 2 will not look as good on consoles as it does on the PC to be honest, don't buy it because it has pretty visuals, that's just pathetic, it might suck like KZ2. ¬¬

[samsaBEAR]

This guy keeps reading the prompter, public speaker fail

[Muct]

It went wonky because of the sound, the mic went dodgy, sounded like there was about 10 of them talking 1 second apart.

[dbgtz]

I liked kz2 (gameplay not story or mp)
I wish they would just get to the games

[samsaBEAR]

I love this Playstation Move advert's blatent dig at the Wii and Kinect

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Move looks pretty awesome, definitely looks better than Kinect

[dbgtz]

sorcery actually looks pretty decent for what I think is gonna be a launch title. Good to show the tech too.

[Muct]

I love the way he bends it!

Nice game too :S

[Neil]

Should be called Playstation Pii since it's such an obvious Wiimote clone.

[Muct]

Should be called Playstation Pii since it's such an obvious Wiimote clone.


Why, whats a Pii?

[kk.]

Should be called Playstation Pii since it's such an obvious Wiimote clone.

it looks like the wii mote, but id like you to see come up with a better way to design it..
the difference is that it measures depth and precision

[Neil]

it looks like the wii mote, but id like you to see come up with a better way to design it..
the difference is that it measures depth and precision

With a light bulb.

[kk.]

With a light bulb.

you obviously dont understand

[dbgtz]

omg jak!!!! and ratchet!!!! OMG YES
pun too


KEVIN BUTLER!!!!11!!111

[Neil]

you obviously dont understand

It's exactly the same as a wiimote.. Perhaps a little more accurate, and maybe better, but it's still the same thing.
Just like Kinect is the same as EyeToy and whatever they called the PS3 version, just Kinect is better.

Also @Jak, Ratchet and Sly, I do hope that wont be some sort of mash up, those games are all good but please.. Sequels, not mash ups. ¬¬

[Muct]

I think Sony has passed Nintendo just with the people they chose to represent them...
Audience going mad for 'em :/

EDIT: PMSL ATG THE PICTURE!!!

[kk.]

It's exactly the same as a wiimote.. Perhaps a little more accurate, and maybe better, but it's still the same thing.
Just like Kinect is the same as EyeToy and whatever they called the PS3 version, just Kinect is better.

Also @Jak, Ratchet and Sly, I do hope that wont be some sort of mash up, those games are all good but please.. Sequels, not mash ups. ¬¬

so whats the problem? everyone copies ideas and develops them.

[Jibbish]

"If you get an awesome girlfriend...
And someone else gets an awesome girlfriend...
EVERYONE wins" :D

[Muct]

Really? I was laughing more at the sweat under his armpite, but OK :S

[Neil]

so whats the problem? everyone copies ideas and develops them.

I don't have a problem, not my fault people get so annoyed when you say "bad things" about a piece of plastic.

[kk.]

i didnt expect it to be out soon O_O

[dbgtz]

Whens it out? I missed it.

[kk.]

Whens it out? I missed it.

september for most, we get it before N america O_O

[Jibbish]

i wanna see ps3 stuff -.-

[Chris]

Missed all of the sony one until now but doesn't look like ive missed very much. :)

[kk.]

finally. to the content lol

[Niall!]

2007:
Sony fans: LOL NINTENDO FANS YOU'RE ALL BABIES CASUAL LOL WIIMOTE I WANT TO PLAY GAMES NOT WAVE MY ARMS AROUND

2010
Sony Fans: LOL NINTENDO LOOK AT US WE CAN WAVE OUR ARMS AROUND NOW 2 ARENT YOU SO JEALOUS LOLOL WII IS FINISHED

You Sony fans are worse than Microsoft fans.

[Jibbish]

finally some details about a subscription

[dbgtz]

Plus looked good until he said "it is yours for as long as your subscription remains" so youre basically renting it. I wanna see GT5 info

[Niall!]

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9033963

HOLY **** OOT REMAKE CONFIRMED FOR 3DS

NINTENDO WINS FOREVER IT'S OVER GO HOME

[Neil]

Seems ridiculous that you lose that content if you don't keep paying for it.

[dbgtz]

OMG ITS THE GUY FROM THE MOH COVER LOLOLO

[Chris]

Liking medal of honor. Sort of a cross between cod 4 and bad company. Haha.

[dbgtz]

Yeah but the limited edition SUCKS ASS

[Niall!]

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9033963

HOLY **** OOT REMAKE CONFIRMED FOR 3DS

NINTENDO WINS FOREVER IT'S OVER GO HOME

OH IS THIS TRUE

THE BEST GAME EVER IS BEING REMADE BUT NO ONE GIVES A **** BECAUSE IT'S NOT MODERN WARFARE: THE RIPOFF?

[Neil]

OH IS THIS TRUE

THE BEST GAME EVER IS BEING REMADE BUT NO ONE GIVES A **** BECAUSE IT'S NOT MODERN WARFARE: THE RIPOFF?

It's because Nintendo have so many remakes it's not even a surprise any more.

[Chris]

OMG PORTAL 2! Excited.

[dbgtz]

PORTAL 2 HAHAHA
god hes a beast but hes funny

[Niall!]

It's because Nintendo have so many remakes it's not even a surprise any more.

This is OOT. Think carefully about which words you choose to use.

[Neil]

This is OOT. Think carefully about which words you choose to use.

Never got into Zelda so I don't really care for it.

[Niall!]

Huh. PS3 got Portal 2.

[Neil]

Not that surprising, I laughed when he said the PS3 version will be the best version.

[Technologic]

GAAAAAABE. I almost creamed when he walked on.

[dbgtz]

Sonys actually going quite strong me thinks, exclusive stuff and the ability to play ac:b beta

[Chris]

Oh well that just sucks. Assassins creed beta on ps3 only. >:[

[Warchamp7]

Anyone got a link to a video of this Portal 2 on PS3 stuff?

[dbgtz]

Yes they showed the top gear track on GT5!!! I SO WANT GT5

*waits for release date*

NOVEMBER 2ND
oh that might not be for us :l

[Jibbish]

gran turismo 2nd novemebr 2010
omg twisted metal :O

[Neil]

About time they got Twisted Metal on PS3. ¬¬

[dbgtz]

Sony has had alot of surprises. I wanna see resistance 3 but I don't think they're showing it :(

[Chris]

Hate to say it but ps3 has topped xbox and nintendo by a mile. Great games and move looks good too.

[dbgtz]

whats this KOJIMA TEASTER ABOUT THEN!

saying that now it was probs the fact u could slice things accurately in rising

[Chris]

Also here is the schedule for the rest of the day

Tuesday
8:30AM -- 5:30PM PST

9:00 AM Nintendo Media Briefing
12:00 PM Sony Media Briefing
2:00 PM Gears of War 3
2:20 PM Fable III
2:40 PM Driver: San Francisco
3:00 PM Crysis 2
3:20 PM Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
3:40 PM Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2
4:00 PM Madden NFL 11
4:20 PM Sony Move - Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11
4:40 PM NCAA Football 11
5:00 PM EA Sports MMA
5:20 PM Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
5:40 PM Halo: Reach

I'll have to watch most of those tomorrow because of the time zone. :[

[dbgtz]

Sony won imo purely because of the surprises and just what they had lined up, but the start was really slow.

Now till next year. Uncharted 3, MW3, the last guardian, GTA something and probably some form of metal gear, assassins creed and other IPs. Can't wait ;)

[Fez]

Nintendo had the best conference, followed closely behind Sony and EA. Microsoft completely off the radar, along with Ubisoft.

Too many games!

[kk.]

whats this KOJIMA TEASTER ABOUT THEN!

saying that now it was probs the fact u could slice things accurately in rising

its about being able to chop anything, hence the chopping of the watermelon

[MrPinkPanther]

Oh my Jesus. The messiah has come.......Ocarina of time remake on the 3DS......

[Fez]

Oh my Jesus. The messiah has come.......Ocarina of time remake on the 3DS......

...

Good... god.

[Chris]

I found the microsoft conference showed of kinect too much. Anyway, I just saw the Gears 3 beast mode and it looks BEASTLY! It's basically hoard but in reverse. You play as the monsters and have to take on the soldiers. You can play as tickers, it dont get much better than that!

[Fez]

I love 'Beast' mode, I'm gonna grief as the Ticker.

[MrPinkPanther]

...

Good... god.
Lylat wars + Ocarina of time + 3DS = Satisfaction

[Neil]

Rage at people thinking someone "won", seriously are you children or something?

Fable 3 info soon I believe? Interested in that.

[Chris]

I love 'Beast' mode, I'm gonna grief as the Ticker.

Yep and the i cant wait to play the wretch. Playing a tick will be so fun teasing the ai. Lmao

[Fez]

Rage at people thinking someone "won", seriously are you children or something?

Fable 3 info soon I believe? Interested in that.

We can say who had the best presentation though, and generally, it was Nintendo. They all did well though. Great games coming out.

Molyneux is going on the Gamespot E3 live show.

[Neil]

We can say who had the best presentation though, and generally, it was Nintendo. They all did well though. Great games coming out.

Molyneux is going on the Gamespot E3 live show.

Yea I mean fair enough who had the best show but "Sony won" etc. is just.. No.. It's not a competition.

Also what time is that?

[kk.]

We can say who had the best presentation though, and generally, it was Nintendo. They all did well though. Great games coming out.

Molyneux is going on the Gamespot E3 live show.

because demos that dont work cus of interference looked professional lol

[Fez]

Yea I mean fair enough who had the best show but "Sony won" etc. is just.. No.. It's not a competition.

Also what time is that?

It's literally NOW I think, they're talking about Brink.

Saying NINTENDO WON. etc. is a bit too far.

[dbgtz]

Yea I mean fair enough who had the best show but "Sony won" etc. is just.. No.. It's not a competition.

Also what time is that?

Technically it is a competition, business is competition.

[Fez]

Technically it is a competition, business is competition.

Between businesses, not consumers.

[Neil]

Technically it is a competition, business is competition.

No.. It's a conference.. Where they show of what they are working on, it's not to say "hey look at how awesome we are with all this"
Without stuff like this you'd have to rely on crap like Twitter for info.
Business is a competition yes but no one "wins" E3.

[dbgtz]

Well yeah
best pitch = best sales theoretically.

[Axel]

Ok so Portal 2 previews are good, has there been any news on Half Life yet though?

[Chris]

An extension to the blackops mission was shown on gamespot a moment ago. Finally force unleashed 2 gameplay was also shown on Gamespot. Amazing.

[Jam]

Has OnLive been on yet?

[Chris]

*Yawn* Time to sleep, I'll catch it all up tomoz. Ign and Gamespot are good for the game floor coverage.

[Simmzay]

Pros:
MGS Rising
3DS
Portal 2
Donkey Kong remake

Cons:
Kinect
Zelda

Indifferent:
everything else

[samsaBEAR]

Gears Of War 3's Beast mode looks so amazing, so it's just a copy of Left 4 Dead 2's mode where you can play as the Infected things, but hey, how many games copied Horde from Gears. God I cannot wait for it to come out

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Also the PSN+ thing I think is good news for everyone. Obviously the PS3 players are gonna get lots of cool ****, but I'm hoping Xbox will see this and start offering up some stuff that is similar, or maybe even cuts the price a little. Did any get the price of PSN+,. I didn't watch the whole stream and I can't find it anywhere

[samsaBEAR]

haha I'm watching the Black Ops demo Q+A thingy, and I love all the subtle digs at IW this guy is saying, stuff like feedback from DLC and weapon balancing and what not

[dbgtz]

I think PS+ was $50 so I guess arond £30-£40 (a year). $17.99 for 3 months and theres a 3 month extra bonus (but this might be USA only atm).

[Neil]

Gears Of War 3's Beast mode looks so amazing, so it's just a copy of Left 4 Dead 2's mode where you can play as the Infected things, but hey, how many games copied Horde from Gears. God I cannot wait for it to come out

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Also the PSN+ thing I think is good news for everyone. Obviously the PS3 players are gonna get lots of cool ****, but I'm hoping Xbox will see this and start offering up some stuff that is similar, or maybe even cuts the price a little. Did any get the price of PSN+,. I didn't watch the whole stream and I can't find it anywhere

Gears did NOT create "horde game modes".

[samsaBEAR]

Gears did NOT create "horde game modes".
Maybe not, but look how many games put them in after Gears did. They certainly made it popular

[Adamm]

Maybe not, but look how many games put them in after Gears did. They certainly made it popular
ever played perfect dark?

[MrPinkPanther]

Maybe not, but look how many games put them in after Gears did. They certainly made it popular

....no.

[Fez]

Game of the Show, so far:

Rayman Origins.

Followed closely by Medal of Honor and Portal 2.

[Coheed&Cambria]

Microsoft failed here with kinect, Sony seemed like they where going down the same path untill Gabe come onstage and then Twisted Metal was announced.

Nintendo stole the show with Goldeneye, 3DS, Mario sports, Zelda and DK.

[Jam]

Game of the Show, so far:

Rayman Origins.

Followed closely by Medal of Honor and Portal 2.

This. Loving the fact people will now know who Rayman is instead of just having a cameo in a stupid mini game bundle, played it loads as a child and recently from DSWare.

[kk.]

Game of the Show, so far:

Rayman Origins.

Followed closely by Medal of Honor and Portal 2.

My personal favourite was MGS: Rising

[dbgtz]

Mine was lbp2 tbh. I'm not liking the look of rising in the sense it isn't a solid really, just metal gear. I want snake on ps3 (not psp ****). :(

[MrPinkPanther]

My fav game was Donkey Kong.

[Muct]

So, whose time to shine is it now? :D

[kk.]

Mine was lbp2 tbh. I'm not liking the look of rising in the sense it isn't a solid really, just metal gear. I want snake on ps3 (not psp ****). :(

I never thought it was meant to be an mgs game, otherwise they'd have espionage in the title rather than lightning fast lol

[Chris]

Just seen some more medal of honor, really cant wait for this game!

[dbgtz]

I never thought it was meant to be an mgs game, otherwise they'd have espionage in the title rather than lightning fast lol
lightning bolt action*
it should just be "metal gear:rising" unless they decide to include snake in it somehow which I hope they don't, but there will probably be some sort of cameo or something.

[Fez]

lightning bolt action*
it should just be "metal gear:rising" unless they decide to include snake in it somehow which I hope they don't, but there will probably be some sort of cameo or something.

Why no 'Solid'? :P

[dbgtz]

because its not solid in it, so really mgs3 shouldnt be solid either.
they should get rid or replace it to like, METAL GEAR SONIC: RISING, or METAL GEAR FLASH: RISING, or METAL GEAR WATERMELONS: RISING.

[Callum.]

don't fancy reading through 10 pages so can anyone give me a brief outline of what's gone on.

i've seen the kenect thing, new xbox and gow 3 gameplay.

[Fez]

because its not solid in it, so really mgs3 shouldnt be solid either.
they should get rid or replace it to like, METAL GEAR SONIC: RISING, or METAL GEAR FLASH: RISING, or METAL GEAR WATERMELONS: RISING.

Just because Solid Snake ain't in it doesn't mean it shouldn't be called MGS. It's just a whole entire franchise, yeah we keep shortening it to just 'Metal Gear', but I doubt it would have the same appeal if you actually strip it off the boxart.

[kk.]

lightning bolt action*
it should just be "metal gear:rising" unless they decide to include snake in it somehow which I hope they don't, but there will probably be some sort of cameo or something.

Ok soz, maybe you shouldve corrected the first as well and said tactical espionage..
I can't wait for the game to come out lol. And I hope the gameplay is actually as good as they made it out to be lol

[dbgtz]

Metal gear existed before. I guess it would have the same effect of taking "COD" from "MW2".

tactical espionage action*
there you go lol

[Fez]

Metal gear existed before. I guess it would have the same effect of taking "COD" from "MW2".
l

Pretty much yeah.

[kk.]

Metal gear existed before. I guess it would have the same effect of taking "COD" from "MW2".

tactical espionage action*
there you go lol

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[Arch]

Sadly missed most of it, although i caught some of the xbox/ps3 stuff looks pretty interesting although,
i think the kinect for xbox is kinda gimmicky

[samsaBEAR]

Metal gear existed before. I guess it would have the same effect of taking "COD" from "MW2".

tactical espionage action*
there you go lol
Calling it Metal Gear: Rising may confuse it with the original Metal Gear games, which really is far away from them so idk. Metal Gear Solid just has a ring to it

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Also, apparently Dead Rising 2 is multiplatform, guess Microsoft didn't pay them enough to keep it exclusive haha

[Black_Apalachi]

Haven't seen the new Rayman game but the series went **** when it went 3D.

[Jam]

Its a 2D platformer like it always should be.

[Lost_Addict]

E3 seems very underwelming this year -.-

[Black_Apalachi]

Its a 2D platformer like it always should be.

My interest. You now has it. :D

[Fez]

For those who haven't seen Rayman Origins yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvhwWXF-LfU

[dbgtz]

Good trailer imo, might buy if it's cheap.

[Fez]

It'll be a downloadable title, so cheap as chips hopefully.

[Black_Apalachi]

Oh right, so it's basically Tarzan for the PS1 combined with Little Big Planet? :P I might check to see if the original one is on the PSN, that'll never be beaten.

[Fez]

Oh right, so it's basically Tarzan for the PS1 combined with Little Big Planet? :P I might check to see if the original one is on the PSN, that'll never be beaten.

It's classic Rayman.

I have the PSone Rayman 1 on my HDD, it is still fun as hell.