NEW Xbox 360 Avaliable.. TODAY!

[Craze]

Wow.. Just finished watching the live stream from E3 2010.. Last 10 minutes of it were AMAZING.
Now i know there is talk about this new Project Natal/Kinect thing that Microsoft has released.. But never mind that.. A NEW XBOX 360 IS AVALIABLE TODAY! Yes.. TODAY! They announced it at E3 10 minutes ago (20:00GMT) and it has Built in Wi-Fi (Saves you buying a network adapter) 250GB HDD, Bigger Fan and the price? Well it stays the same as a normal X360.. $299 for a Normal 250GB X360.. $299 for the NEW 250GB X360.
http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/gamesgear/e3_2010/xboxslim.jpg


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Moved to this forum from 'Technology Discussion' .

[Recursion]

I seriously can't wait for Project Natal (Microsoft Kinect), It is actually going to blow the Playstation Move out of the water.

[Jam]

Money grabbing *****.

[Apolva]

EyeToy anyone? Kinect is just a novelty in my opinion.

New console looks pretty sweet, mine's probably gonna die soon.

[W00TZEH]

It's SHIPPING today, it's AVAILABLE later this week.

[AlexOC]

Meh, nothing special.

[dbgtz]

It won't boost sales if it's the exact same price? LOL. Oh no wait it has a built in wifi. Oh wait I could have had that and bluray and bluetooth on the ps3, for the same price (U.S.) and since september. It's a fail tactic by M$, the reason the slim sold so well is because of the price drop not because of the new design, the design was really to give the ability for a price drop and a proper redesign but the 360 has the same logo, the same branding. It's pretty much just a new SKU.

[Muct]

Saw it at E3, I don't see why people are complaining about the case, it looks pretty nice.
Would you rather have a square cube with a few buttons that easily fall off? :/

[GoldenMerc]

Anyone know a online video of the e3 thing?
Ross

[dbgtz]

I think it's game trailers, there's videos on the actual E3 site too.

[Recursion]

EyeToy anyone? Kinect is just a novelty in my opinion.

New console looks pretty sweet, mine's probably gonna die soon.

EyeToy is crap in relation to the Wii, PS Move and the MS Kinect.

MS Kinect is going to change the way consoles are used.

[W00TZEH]

Kinect is the start of Minority Report technology :D

[MrPinkPanther]

Heres the reasons Kinect fails:

1) Its an accessory, accessories are never supported. Lets take the Wii Fit balance board shall we? Kinect will never outsell the balance board. In fact I believe that even if every xbox owner purchased Kinect it would not outsell the balance board. How many games do you see coming out for that? Loads at first, a year later? None. The same with WiiMotionPlus and the Eyetoy.

2) Its WAY less precise than even the standard WiiMote. The reason the WiiMote works well its because of its accuracy and speed.

3) Kinects appeal is "no controller" right? Well I challenge you you need a controller. You HONESTLY expect me to play Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda or Metroid WITHOUT an analogue stick. Thats what I mean when I say 3D Cameras have a place in gaming but only to compliment the controller. A controller is always required.

4) Following on from the controller point I think you need a controller for feedback. I don't see why people are so ready for this "controller-less gaming". I mean they just showed Star Wars, lets have a look at that. Would you rather swing a light sabre holding a WiiRemote with gives you feedback in the form of a rumble and sound in the form of a slash or nothing at all?

5) Penultimately Kinect has yet to be proved. I believe it was IGN who said just yesterday that it was still "jittering". Not to mention that it is yet to have a "killer title"

6) Finally and perhaps most importantly is the fact that Kinect doesn't have Nintendo. Look at every wii game that uses motion control well, who are they made by? Nintendo. 3rd party companies have failed time and time again. It's exactly the same as the DS touchscreen. Nintendo are the only ones that seem to be able to use it well.

[dbgtz]

Heres the reasons Kinect fails:

1) Its an accessory, accessories are never supported. Lets take the Wii Fit balance board shall we? Kinect will never outsell the balance board. In fact I believe that even if every xbox owner purchased Kinect it would not outsell the balance board. How many games do you see coming out for that? Loads at first, a year later? None. The same with WiiMotionPlus and the Eyetoy.

2) Its WAY less precise than even the standard WiiMote. The reason the WiiMote works well its because of its accuracy and speed.

3) Kinects appeal is "no controller" right? Well I challenge you you need a controller. You HONESTLY expect me to play Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda or Metroid WITHOUT an analogue stick. Thats what I mean when I say 3D Cameras have a place in gaming but only to compliment the controller. A controller is always required.

4) Following on from the controller point I think you need a controller for feedback. I don't see why people are so ready for this "controller-less gaming". I mean they just showed Star Wars, lets have a look at that. Would you rather swing a light sabre holding a WiiRemote with gives you feedback in the form of a rumble and sound in the form of a slash or nothing at all?

5) Penultimately Kinect has yet to be proved. I believe it was IGN who said just yesterday that it was still "jittering". Not to mention that it is yet to have a "killer title"

6) Finally and perhaps most importantly is the fact that Kinect doesn't have Nintendo. Look at every wii game that uses motion control well, who are they made by? Nintendo. 3rd party companies have failed time and time again. It's exactly the same as the DS touchscreen. Nintendo are the only ones that seem to be able to use it well.


@#6 that's only because it's cheap and easy to make wii/ds games :L Anyway I agree with the rest and tbh it pretty much will do everything the eyetoy does, they're even bringing out a pet game like the eyepet., kinectimals(?). Sounds so crap.

[Black_Apalachi]

Haven't read into anything regarding that Kinect thing so no idea what it is but I find even the PS3's six-axis thing a pointless novelty so I doubt I'll be interested. I even find the Wii's motion stuff annoying and that's probably the best there is.

That aside, this new XBOX sounds pretty good, but it's basically what it should have been (the Elite anyway) in the first place - minus the reduced size (is it reduced size or just purely thinner?). Need to see more pics tbh

[GommeInc]

Heres the reasons Kinect fails:

1) Its an accessory, accessories are never supported. Lets take the Wii Fit balance board shall we? Kinect will never outsell the balance board. In fact I believe that even if every xbox owner purchased Kinect it would not outsell the balance board. How many games do you see coming out for that? Loads at first, a year later? None. The same with WiiMotionPlus and the Eyetoy.

2) Its WAY less precise than even the standard WiiMote. The reason the WiiMote works well its because of its accuracy and speed.

3) Kinects appeal is "no controller" right? Well I challenge you you need a controller. You HONESTLY expect me to play Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda or Metroid WITHOUT an analogue stick. Thats what I mean when I say 3D Cameras have a place in gaming but only to compliment the controller. A controller is always required.

4) Following on from the controller point I think you need a controller for feedback. I don't see why people are so ready for this "controller-less gaming". I mean they just showed Star Wars, lets have a look at that. Would you rather swing a light sabre holding a WiiRemote with gives you feedback in the form of a rumble and sound in the form of a slash or nothing at all?

5) Penultimately Kinect has yet to be proved. I believe it was IGN who said just yesterday that it was still "jittering". Not to mention that it is yet to have a "killer title"

6) Finally and perhaps most importantly is the fact that Kinect doesn't have Nintendo. Look at every wii game that uses motion control well, who are they made by? Nintendo. 3rd party companies have failed time and time again. It's exactly the same as the DS touchscreen. Nintendo are the only ones that seem to be able to use it well.
Can't really judge, but I completely agree with your point on receiving feedback from your actions. I'd rather have something in my hand that makes a sound or vibrates giving me feedback on what I've done. It would be like fighting a ghost, or thin air, where neither one of the characters can do anything.

It's interesting they've released this new Xbox 360 when there doesn't appear to be much mentioned about it. Like Black_Apalachi said... It's what the Xbox should of been at the start, or the Elite which was praised as the ultimate Xbox, despite many gamers using wireless connectivity than wired.

[samsaBEAR]

The whole idea of motion gaming/gaming without a controller just doesn't appeal to me full stop. I prefer holding a controller to play games, it makes me feel like I'm in the game for more than gestures ever will. That Star Wars demo alone was enough to put me off, you can't move the character, the game has to move you forward. I thought that was banished with 2D side scroller games

[dbgtz]

IMO, to get a proper motion controller game it would cost thousands and you would need to have pinpoints on your body to move parts of the character. Like one on your head to turn the characters head.

[Oleh]

The new slim 360 is £200 same as the 120gb elite.

Ships 16th july.

I was thinking of getting one of these until the 3ds was shown. i already have everything the slim is. but it looks so hot.

[Neil]

The new slim 360 is £200 same as the 120gb elite.

Ships 16th july.

I was thinking of getting one of these until the 3ds was shown. i already have everything the slim is. but it looks so hot.

Haha, if I didn't need a new TV I'd pre-order one now, I'll just wait and trade in my xbox to get one later in the year I think.

[kk.]

Haha, if I didn't need a new TV I'd pre-order one now, I'll just wait and trade in my xbox to get one later in the year I think.

How much can you get for a preowned xbox with network adapter? :S hopefully the design looks better irl, cus if not I know I wouldn't get it, ever.

As for kinect, hmm. It's interesting, but sounds like it would only be useful if you had something on your head Reading your thoughts. THAT will likely be the next big thing. It is already in development, and combining the two is what is needed

[Charles]

http://n4g.com/news/544076/e310-new-xbox-360-destroys-disks-when-moved

Not saying everyone picks up their consoles while a game is loading, but I think this is pretty funny. So if you're getting one of these then don't pick it up while a game is in!

[Camy]

http://n4g.com/news/544076/e310-new-xbox-360-destroys-disks-when-moved

Not saying everyone picks up their consoles while a game is loading, but I think this is pretty funny. So if you're getting one of these then don't pick it up while a game is in!
Wow, they managed to make that have a worse effect..impressive lol.

[Neil]

http://n4g.com/news/544076/e310-new-xbox-360-destroys-disks-when-moved

Not saying everyone picks up their consoles while a game is loading, but I think this is pretty funny. So if you're getting one of these then don't pick it up while a game is in!

If you're dumb enough to move your console while playing games in the first place then you shouldn't be allowed to own one.


How much can you get for a preowned xbox with network adapter? :S hopefully the design looks better irl, cus if not I know I wouldn't get it, ever.

I don't really know, depends what type it is I guess, probably £80-100 or something? I don't really know much about trade-ins. :P

[dbgtz]

A large vibration will move the console? I think it's a fail how they couldn't even fix a problem, infact making it worse. LOL.

[kk.]

The reason it scratches is more than likely due to them using a disk tray, and if you have it standing up.

[samsaBEAR]

It's pretty much common sense not to move your xbox around when a disc is running

[Dragorn]

Lol. It's funny how the PS3 fanboys are trying to take advantage of the 'xbox moving scratching disc' thing to try and make the new xbox sound. I'm defiantly going to get it for my birthday looks awesome! The wifi would help me alot!

[kk.]

Lol. It's funny how the PS3 fanboys are trying to take advantage of the 'xbox moving scratching disc' thing to try and make the new xbox sound. I'm defiantly going to get it for my birthday looks awesome! The wifi would help me alot!

I don't know who you're talking about here, but of it's me, I was giving the reason why it scratches. The other two consoles don't seem to scratch disks and what's the difference? They don't use disk trays..

[Moh]

I still don't trust the Xbox, I'll see how the reviews go.

Heres the reasons Kinect fails:

1) Its an accessory, accessories are never supported. Lets take the Wii Fit balance board shall we? Kinect will never outsell the balance board. In fact I believe that even if every xbox owner purchased Kinect it would not outsell the balance board. How many games do you see coming out for that? Loads at first, a year later? None. The same with WiiMotionPlus and the Eyetoy.

2) Its WAY less precise than even the standard WiiMote. The reason the WiiMote works well its because of its accuracy and speed.

3) Kinects appeal is "no controller" right? Well I challenge you you need a controller. You HONESTLY expect me to play Mario Galaxy, Legend of Zelda or Metroid WITHOUT an analogue stick. Thats what I mean when I say 3D Cameras have a place in gaming but only to compliment the controller. A controller is always required.

4) Following on from the controller point I think you need a controller for feedback. I don't see why people are so ready for this "controller-less gaming". I mean they just showed Star Wars, lets have a look at that. Would you rather swing a light sabre holding a WiiRemote with gives you feedback in the form of a rumble and sound in the form of a slash or nothing at all?

5) Penultimately Kinect has yet to be proved. I believe it was IGN who said just yesterday that it was still "jittering". Not to mention that it is yet to have a "killer title"

6) Finally and perhaps most importantly is the fact that Kinect doesn't have Nintendo. Look at every wii game that uses motion control well, who are they made by? Nintendo. 3rd party companies have failed time and time again. It's exactly the same as the DS touchscreen. Nintendo are the only ones that seem to be able to use it well.
There have been tests on vibrations in the house with an Xbox 360 too. The test results showed that jumping around damages the disc lol. So, jumping around with Kinect may damage your disc lol.

You will also need a fairly large room to use it, most people have their xboxs in their bedrooms and wont even have space to play.

I also don't think Halo will be any good :)

[Andii]

It won't boost sales if it's the exact same price? LOL. Oh no wait it has a built in wifi. Oh wait I could have had that and bluray and bluetooth on the ps3, for the same price (U.S.) and since september. It's a fail tactic by M$, the reason the slim sold so well is because of the price drop not because of the new design, the design was really to give the ability for a price drop and a proper redesign but the 360 has the same logo, the same branding. It's pretty much just a new SKU.

naw its wayyyy betr than ps3 and it will be much easier to use when the project comes out ooooo im gunna buy 1 lmao since my other 1 broke -.-

[Charles]

If you're dumb enough to move your console while playing games in the first place then you shouldn't be allowed to own one.



I've moved my consoles in the past while playing games when I haven't fit in the scart lead correctly, or any other wires for that matter. You saying I'm not allowed to own a console?

[samsaBEAR]

I've moved my consoles in the past while playing games when I haven't fit in the scart lead correctly, or any other wires for that matter. You saying I'm not allowed to own a console?
I think he means move it around as much as the guy did on the video. Just moving it slightly is fine

[Neil]

I've moved my consoles in the past while playing games when I haven't fit in the scart lead correctly, or any other wires for that matter. You saying I'm not allowed to own a console?

Yes.. That's exactly the amount of detail I went into, good one but you're not funny nor clever, it's quite obvious I meant moving like in the video, maybe you shouldn't have anything if this is how you think.

[Fez]

I'm laughing at some of these comments such as "Natal will crush Move."

Did you see the conference? It was a role-reversal, Nintendo and Microsoft, it was an absolute embarrassment when it came to 'Kinetic'. I'm still going to call it Natal because that's what I've been calling it for over a year anyway.

'Move' has potential, they're just showing the tech off right now (what MS did last year, while Sony showed the concept). We'll see how it evolves, but Microsoft are launching this into the casual market. Other than the dashboard interface and possible goodies with Fable 3, I really have zero interest in it.

'Move' I will be buying for Dead Space Extraction, Littlebigplanet 2 and for Heavy Rain. I don't expect to use it as much as I would do a Wii, though, but I'm not investing (estimated) £130 into Kinetic.

[Jam]

They're all pretty awful in all honesty. If they are aimed at 'casual' gamers, then those who don't have a console are evidently going to go for the tried & tested Wii rather than a £200 console plus the additional money for these.

Just as long as I'm not forced to use motion control or play a game 'in 3D' then I'm happy for the time being.

[Fez]

They're all pretty awful in all honesty. If they are aimed at 'casual' gamers, then those who don't have a console are evidently going to go for the tried & tested Wii rather than a £200 console plus the additional money for these.

Just as long as I'm not forced to use motion control or play a game 'in 3D' then I'm happy for the time being.

They're already chasing a market which Nintendo spent the last 4 years saturating.

I'll be honest in that I won't invest in Move immediately, but I do see its potential.

Oh and you can play Killzone 3... in 3D... with Move.

You'll look like a total plonker.

[dbgtz]

naw its wayyyy betr than ps3 and it will be much easier to use when the project comes out ooooo im gunna buy 1 lmao since my other 1 broke -.-

Youre going to buy a console that has the same problems, becuase your other one broke? Great logic there.

Anyway I think move and 3d will be completely optional, I do look forward to playing heavy rain with move though :D

[Neil]

Oh and you can play Killzone 3... in 3D... with Move.

You'll look like a total plonker.

That's just stupid, holding the light bulb sticks with a pair of stupid glasses on? You'd be punched in the face.

[Fez]

That's just stupid, holding the light bulb sticks with a pair of stupid glasses on? You'd be punched in the face.

I can imagine playing it and then my mother walking in.

I don't know what I'd say.

[Neil]

I can imagine playing it and then my mother walking in.

I don't know what I'd say.

I wonder how long until a dumb Japanese girl thinks "ohh I have a fun idea" while using Move, didn't take long with the Wii.

[dbgtz]

I wonder how long until a dumb Japanese girl thinks "ohh I have a fun idea" while using Move, didn't take long with the Wii.
well well well ;)

[Fez]

I wonder how long until a dumb Japanese girl thinks "ohh I have a fun idea" while using Move, didn't take long with the Wii.

Didn't think you thought in that way, Neil.

[samsaBEAR]

I wonder how long until a dumb Japanese girl thinks "ohh I have a fun idea" while using Move, didn't take long with the Wii.
She's going to have to a bit bucket-esque to be able to take that huge ball (that's what she said)

[Black_Apalachi]

Really don't see why the new Xbox didn't just have a slot instead of a tray. Looks better, suits smaller machines and solves a lot of issues in the process.

[Neil]

Didn't think you thought in that way, Neil.

That's because you have to be a good boy on Habbox, you should hear some of the conversations my friends and I have, pretty messed up stuff.

[samsaBEAR]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/16/xbox-360-slim-17-smaller-than-original-incapable-of-rrod-ing/ at least it won't get RROD

[kk.]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/16/xbox-360-slim-17-smaller-than-original-incapable-of-rrod-ing/ at least it won't get RROD

no, it will just do some other error XD it sounds like theyve tried to get rid of the stigma of RROD :P