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Hitman
15-06-2010, 04:13 PM
A group of extremist Muslims prompted violent clashes at a homecoming parade for British troops today after they heckled soldiers and called them 'murderers.'
Members of the Muslim Against the Crusade group clashed with far right protesters as they shouted 'murderers, murderers, murderers' and 'British troops go to hell' as members of the 1st Battalion the Royal Anglian Regiment paraded down the streets of Barking, Essex.
The chants were drowned out by a large mob on the opposite side of the street who retaliated with jeers of 'Traitors' to the Muslim protesters.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1286784/Muslim-protesters-brand-war-heroes-murderers-homecoming-parade-turns-violent.html#ixzz0qwH6WPcb
Scumbags! Kick them out of the country! When will people wake up?
Did laugh at this though:
The hour-long parade had been delayed due to growing tensions between the two sides, with anti-Mac protestors singing God Save the Queen and drinkers at a nearby pub hurling frozen pork sausages at the Muslims.
Caution
15-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Lol at the last bit. KICK THEM OUT
JACKTARD
15-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Wouldn't mind them being in the country if they lived our way of life. If they don't like our way of life then be my guest to leave. Think I can speak for most of the country on that one.
GommeInc
15-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Meh, they're thick as pig do do, let them shout murderers if they want, they'll only make things worse :P As far as I see it, they have no right to chant anything while here, especially when they're living in a country that has fought for freedoms and won. Without this, they'll be rotting in some middle east country no doubt being killed or going to war against the east, being the hypocrites they so rightly are.
Heck, if they support the terrorism in the Middle East, they technically should be chucked out of this country as they pose a risk. If not, then they're hypocrites for not supporting us in what we "feel" is right, and if this "war on terror" fails, then surely they're contradicting the reason for being here? They make no sense :/
*they = the ignorant minority of Muslims, not the silent majority who are here enjoying England for what it is not asking for any troubles.
Erotica
15-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Its nice to see community cohesion is alive and well.
BeanEgg
15-06-2010, 04:48 PM
They disagree with us going to Afghanistan. - Why did we bother wasting OUR money, and risk OUR troop's in a country that doesn't bother us?
International peace-keeping should be the last on our agenda - we have terrorists in our own country, that's the real threat.
Believe in me, if you were living in another country and that country happened to be attacking yours, I can GUARANTEE you would be doing such actions.
When will people like you wake up?
Hitman
15-06-2010, 05:51 PM
They disagree with us going to Afghanistan. - Why did we bother wasting OUR money, and risk OUR troop's in a country that doesn't bother us?
International peace-keeping should be the last on our agenda - we have terrorists in our own country, that's the real threat.
Believe in me, if you were living in another country and that country happened to be attacking yours, I can GUARANTEE you would be doing such actions.
When will people like you wake up?Haha you clearly don't understand the Afgan war do you? I do not agree with the war, but at least I understand why we are there. The Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, almost all of it, and from there they carried out terror attacks - 9/11. Obviously we can't have a nation that is run by extremist nutters who have access to weapons of mass destruction and the like, so the US went over and regained control. We and the NATO troops went in and helped alongside the Americans to push the Taliban out, and that is what is currently happening. We are working with the Afgan Government to bring stability and peace into the region - we are not working against the Afgan Government, as you are suggesting; we are attacking the Taliban, who are Islamic extremists that want to destroy YOUR freedom, if you didn't know or realise.
These protesters are extremists, much like the Taliban. I recommend you open your eyes and realise what is happening in this world, clearly you do not know nor understand.
Regardless to all that, it is still so disrespectful to the Armed Forces - they risk their lives and want to do these jobs yet are called murderers and the likes by lazy extremist nutters? Then to top it off, you go and side with them! RAF banner in your sig... pfftt...
cocaine
15-06-2010, 06:03 PM
islam is the one at war with itself, muslims create the image they are the victims, its ******* annoying me now
BeanEgg
15-06-2010, 08:05 PM
The Taliban were in power, yes however they see the west as a religious enemy. - They believe that their people will take on western beliefs and acts.
They want us to leave their country, and allow the Taliban to have their own extremists, something that they see as normal.
In case you did not no, 9 /11 (Strongly condemned by most Muslims from other countries) occurred because of our involvement in the Middle East, we both know that the Jewish influence supports Palestine and we also need oil. - This directly links back to us.
As for being a NATO country, it's only a a treaty on paper. I'm sure of Blair didn't want to get involved he could have simply said no. (We're in Europe, why don't we change our currency like the other countries? - Same thing, we can disagree with things, why not NATO?) He decided to follow America.
As for my status, I have a relative who is an officer in the RAF, and he tells me that nothing is improving with our presence and some what worse.
I do support our troops, I don't believe they should be there and risk their lives any more than they need to. - They don't even want us there, let it be. Let them run their own country however they want, make it 100% strict Islamic, I do not care.
Hitman
15-06-2010, 08:27 PM
The Taliban were in power, yes however they see the west as a religious enemy. - They believe that their people will take on western beliefs and acts.
They want us to leave their country, and allow the Taliban to have their own extremists, something that they see as normal.
In case you did not no, 9 /11 (Strongly condemned by most Muslims from other countries) occurred because of our involvement in the Middle East, we both know that the Jewish influence supports Palestine and we also need oil. - This directly links back to us.
As for being a NATO country, it's only a a treaty on paper. I'm sure of Blair didn't want to get involved he could have simply said no. (We're in Europe, why don't we change our currency like the other countries? - Same thing, we can disagree with things, why not NATO?) He decided to follow America.
As for my status, I have a relative who is an officer in the RAF, and he tells me that nothing is improving with our presence and some what worse.
I do support our troops, I don't believe they should be there and risk their lives any more than they need to. - They don't even want us there, let it be. Let them run their own country however they want, make it 100% strict Islamic, I do not care.
You don't quite get it do you... obviously we're not wanted there by the extremists, if we weren't there then they would thrive and be able to make weapons, bombs, etc. which would be a nightmare - imagine fighting the Taliban in 10 years time when they have planes and nuclear bombs? It's better to take them out while they're still using out of date weapons, not new state of the art stuff.
The people of Afghanistan don't want the Taliban in power... maybe some do, but not all. The Taliban terrorise the people, that's really gonna win them brownie points with the locals. :rolleyes:
I respect your relative for being in the armed forces but I imagine he doesn't know the goings on of every operation. You keep saying 'they don't want us to be there', yes THEY DO! They do want us there, to eradicate the Taliban and to restore peace. If we leave then the Government will be overthrown, the Taliban would come back into power and they would then be able to create mass terrorism with planes, bombs, etc. as I have said.
alexxxxx
15-06-2010, 09:37 PM
so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?
and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.
Jordy
15-06-2010, 09:50 PM
so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?
and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.I'm not so sure free speech permits you to walk round calling people murderers. If they were to call Tony Blair a murderer though I wouldn't have an issue, it's the politicians who should be blamed not the armed forces.
alexxxxx
15-06-2010, 09:59 PM
I'm not so sure free speech permits you to walk round calling people murderers. If they were to call Tony Blair a murderer though I wouldn't have an issue, it's the politicians who should be blamed not the armed forces.
you aren't forced to join the armed forces. you have to accept that if you go into the armed forces you are in effect, part of the system and subscribing to it.
Jordy
15-06-2010, 10:01 PM
you aren't forced to join the armed forces. you have to accept that if you go into the armed forces you are in effect, part of the system and subscribing to it.Very true but I'm still not convinced you can go round accusing people of murder.
alexxxxx
15-06-2010, 10:07 PM
Very true but I'm still not convinced you can go round accusing people of murder.
well it's obviously not a very nice thing to say. and they probably didn't murder anyone in the legal sense of the word. calling a large group of people murderers without making any specific allegations probably wouldn't warrant being illegal.
******* hypocrotical ******s
BeanEgg
15-06-2010, 11:08 PM
Some of us are not helping anything, are we? Protecting freedoms?
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:heroes-persecuted-by-zeros&catid=42:feature-stories
Let's try to protect theirs in this country first then ours.
Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.
powerlifter
16-06-2010, 01:04 AM
You don't quite get it do you... obviously we're not wanted there by the extremists, if we weren't there then they would thrive and be able to make weapons, bombs, etc. which would be a nightmare - imagine fighting the Taliban in 10 years time when they have planes and nuclear bombs? It's better to take them out while they're still using out of date weapons, not new state of the art stuff.
The people of Afghanistan don't want the Taliban in power... maybe some do, but not all. The Taliban terrorise the people, that's really gonna win them brownie points with the locals. :rolleyes:
I respect your relative for being in the armed forces but I imagine he doesn't know the goings on of every operation. You keep saying 'they don't want us to be there', yes THEY DO! They do want us there, to eradicate the Taliban and to restore peace. If we leave then the Government will be overthrown, the Taliban would come back into power and they would then be able to create mass terrorism with planes, bombs, etc. as I have said.
I dnt normally read these forums but i stumbled upon this...
lemme just clarify something for you , since when do america actually give a *Removed* what happens in other countries were there is no benefit too them sudan civil war , somalia civil war , lebanese revolution thousands of people died and were opressed they really couldn't care less but ooo iraq , afganistan and soon too be iran hmm lemme see wot they have in common hmm OIL!
Trust me the people there want you out hence the increased the terroist activity , of course that dosnt justify blowing urself up but if there french were occupying our lands under false pretences of course you would want them out , your only outlet too how those people feel are the media which lets face it can be manipulated read below..
We were ordered and instructed on how too feel about the wars we have partaken in e.g. iraq o sadam hussain threat too our lives he is the new nazi.. has weapons when he repeatdly said in various interviews he hadn't and they could check however of course they weren't televised , GUESS WHAT NO WEAPONS! but hey we freed iraq from opression right , GUESS WHAT WAY MORE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND OPPRESSED WITH OUR current STAY IN IRAQ THAN UNDER SADAM HUSSAINS REGIME. even the soldiers dnno wot they r doing there lol
Another thing all nuclear weapons heads are under the main power houses of europe u know the usual suspects AMERICA , RUSSIA so there is no chance of any1 else getting em mite be able too get hands on a few machine guns but hey 20 of our lives vs millions of theres?
U really beleive in international freedom the prison of ghazi which has held thousands of people hostage for many years now , nothing is aloud in no cameras no food nothing and no palestine is aloud out , it breaks every single international humaneterian law there is but guess whos funding it? hey USA, they spend over 2 billion a year in foreign aid too israel which in turn use it too imprison palestine which is twice as much as any country on this planet receives , starving african children any1? makes me laugh how its taken 4 years for the goverment too finally broadcast something about the imprisonment of gaza , manipulation much? You only see what they want you too see.
But hey it isnt our fault we the british are americas pupets.
sort of made a few relevant points lol
wanna end with what i feel is appropriate too this topic
geogre carlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICwyV5ppLU&feature=related
rant/
Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.
ifuseekamy
16-06-2010, 06:58 AM
Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.
Most Islamic countries are hellholes run by extremists. "Sharia will be in London before Democracy is in Afghanistan" - says it all really.
Hitman
16-06-2010, 08:35 AM
so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?
and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.
Inciting violence and hatred is not freedom of speech, that's where it gets passed the line. These people can dislike the Armed Forces providing they don't incite hatred or violence - calling somebody a murderer is hatred. It is still downright disrespectful. If the UK came under attack and a war broke out between Britain and France, for arguments sake, then these troops would be fighting for our freedom, including the freedom of these stupid Islamic extremists.
@powerlifter, I'd appreciate it if you at least used words instead of substituting them for numbers... lots of short speak can be annoying to read. Again, of course the terrorists do not want us in the country - if we aren't there then they can run amok, which is what they want. Them being in power = increase in terror attacks. If they have access to planes, bombs, weapons etc. then they will not hesitate to use them against other countries, look at 9/11 - they had to hijack those planes, if they have their own it'll be easier.
The people who want a democratic, safe and peaceful Afghanistan want us there, to thwart the Taliban and bring that peace and stability. Not everyone in Afghanistan is a terrorist. or extremist ;)
The reason a lot of Muslims, not just extremists, dislike our troops is because they see it as a war of religion. Christian/atheist troops vs Muslim extremists. Of course, not all of them do, there have been [very few] Muslims in the army, however my friend certainty doesn't like the Armed Forces and he's no extremist.
Dusty-09
16-06-2010, 03:48 PM
Haha you clearly don't understand the Afgan war do you? I do not agree with the war, but at least I understand why we are there. The Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, almost all of it, and from there they carried out terror attacks - 9/11. Obviously we can't have a nation that is run by extremist nutters who have access to weapons of mass destruction and the like, so the US went over and regained control. We and the NATO troops went in and helped alongside the Americans to push the Taliban out, and that is what is currently happening. We are working with the Afgan Government to bring stability and peace into the region - we are not working against the Afgan Government, as you are suggesting; we are attacking the Taliban, who are Islamic extremists that want to destroy YOUR freedom, if you didn't know or realise.
These protesters are extremists, much like the Taliban. I recommend you open your eyes and realise what is happening in this world, clearly you do not know nor understand.
Regardless to all that, it is still so disrespectful to the Armed Forces - they risk their lives and want to do these jobs yet are called murderers and the likes by lazy extremist nutters? Then to top it off, you go and side with them! RAF banner in your sig... pfftt...
Personally, I respect the decision of troops being in afghanistan, they risk their lives for our freedom and I feel privileged to live in this country. These extremists give muslims a bad name and simply are ignorant and I agree, they should shut their mouths because half the muslims out there live in this country because of its freedom. I'm a muslim and I could never do what the troops do in war, they do it for us and for that I respect them.
BeanEgg
16-06-2010, 04:57 PM
@ifuseekamy - Name another one?
That quote is from a site that is completely biased and again Islam, how ignorant can you get?
Ajthedragon
16-06-2010, 05:17 PM
Send them back.
Wig44.
16-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Some of us are not helping anything, are we? Protecting freedoms?
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=204:heroes-persecuted-by-zeros&catid=42:feature-stories
Let's try to protect theirs in this country first then ours.
Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.
But it isn't just the extremists that are taught to hate the west, that we are born muslim and stray from our path and that they must actively try to convert or kill non-muslims, no, that is taught to most if not all muslims. People who aren't taught this are not muslim. I know I'll get flamed for this but it only highlights the ignorance on this forum (incoming someone calling me ignorant).
Erotica
16-06-2010, 05:54 PM
A lot of the people who call Islam things like "the religion of peace" and other nonsense have never even read the Qu'ran or any other Islamic literature like the Ahadith. If people read into it I am sure that they would find their opinion on Islam would change drastically - I know mine did when I read the Qu'ran.
@BeanEgg - Somalia and Yemen are also countries which have problems with extremists.
BeanEgg
16-06-2010, 06:13 PM
So another 2 then, out of the 53? - Compare.
As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace. ONCE AGAIN, there's a minority and Wig44. - don't be pathetic. I have several Muslim friends who have NO intention of killing 'Non-Muslims'. - In fact one of them is in a relationship with a Jewish girl. - He is a proper Muslim, he preys, fasts and doesn't drink or even eat pork.
I know many people like this. Countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Senegal, Syria, Niger, Chad, Libya, Jordan, Kosovo, Gambia, and the UAE (A LOT MORE) are all muslim countries, they don't hate Christians. Some of these countries have both Christians and Muslims, they live as unity, in one society with no issues.
Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria had great Jewish influence and supposedly all muslims hate Jews? - These countries are currently the most important in the resolution of the Arab - Israeli conflict and are working close with America, and happen to be Islamic.
Erotica
16-06-2010, 06:56 PM
So another 2 then, out of the 53? - Compare.
As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace. ONCE AGAIN, there's a minority and Wig44. - don't be pathetic. I have several Muslim friends who have NO intention of killing 'Non-Muslims'. - In fact one of them is in a relationship with a Jewish girl. - He is a proper Muslim, he preys, fasts and doesn't drink or even eat pork.
I know many people like this. Countries like Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Senegal, Syria, Niger, Chad, Libya, Jordan, Kosovo, Gambia, and the UAE (A LOT MORE) are all muslim countries, they don't hate Christians. Some of these countries have both Christians and Muslims, they live as unity, in one society with no issues.
Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria had great Jewish influence and supposedly all muslims hate Jews? - These countries are currently the most important in the resolution of the Arab - Israeli conflict and are working close with America, and happen to be Islamic.
An opinion you are entitled to. And as a Christian myself, I do not believe it is a religion of peace. There are incredibly violent verses in the Qu'ran mandating violence against Christians, Jews, Pagans and many more.
In Islam a male Muslim is permitted to marry a Christian or Jew as they are 'People of the Book' but this is not extended to female Muslims because in Islam offspring will follow the father's religion. If this relationship is not marriage (which I assume it is not, please correct me if I am wrong) then it is un-Islamic because in Islam it is strictly mandated that there is no "dating" and that there is only marriage.
As for your list of Muslim countries and the alleged peaceful co-existence, I cannot comment on all of them as I mainly search up on Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, but Egypt has absolutely no place on that list. If you want more links then just ask.
Egypt:
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Crowd-of-3-thousand-Muslims-attack-a-Coptic-Christian-community,-25-injured-17876.html
http://www.aina.org/news/20090708140417.htm
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Egyptian-police-arrest-13-Copts,-victims-of-attack-by-Islamic-extremists-17922.html
I am not quite sure where you got that I said that some of those societies were not influenced by Jews, so I do not know what to say there. Secondly, I have nowhere stated that all Muslims hate Jews - so I kindly ask you to refrain from putting words in my mouth. I would still insist that someone does not prejudge someone because of their religion just like I would insist that they do not judge someone on other things like their race, nationality, sexuality etc.
Edit: As for your -rep, lol. Honestly, I think the fact you have resorted to pretty much the lowest common denominator shows that this debate is over. If you are going to bow out in future, may I suggest you do so in a more graceful manner. That way you don't look so petty.
beanegg, of course this is a VERY SMALL minority of muslims but that doesn't mean we can't rant about islam extremists? they're allowed their own opinion but they're obviously going to be hated, and for a darn good reason. i feel really sorry for 99.99999% of muslims who aren't like this, because they know and we know, most people are going to see it as just a tiny few.
ifuseekamy
17-06-2010, 02:30 AM
As a Christian, I still believe Islam is a religion of peace.
I'm not so sure the victims of terrorism and honour killings, the rape victims, fornicators, gays and converts, persecuted in the name of god, would agree.
alexxxxx
17-06-2010, 07:28 AM
I'm not so sure the victims of terrorism and honour killings, the rape victims, fornicators, gays and converts, persecuted in the name of god, would agree.
all religions are nutty though tbh. it's not like there hasn't been a war over christianity. or people killed by christians. the crusades anyone?
Hitman
17-06-2010, 08:11 AM
all religions are nutty though tbh. it's not like there hasn't been a war over christianity. or people killed by christians. the crusades anyone?
Indeed you are correct, I would say every religion has had it's "bad" times, meaning cruel/immoral/brutal/medieval. Christianity has evolved/changed from what it was hundreds of years ago. Islam on the other hand has not... gays have no place in a Muslim world at all, women don't have rights, women are killed if they have sex before marriage, stoned to death if they are raped, I could go on. It hasn't caught up with the modern world whereas nearly all the other religions have.
BeanEgg
17-06-2010, 09:09 AM
I accept the fact that there are extremeists but most people here, except a few are tying to make out that all Muslims are extremists.
There's a great difference between Modern Islam and the extremist Traditional Islam,]
The modern version is seen as 'updated'.
From what I have been told, they do not reject homosexuality and a lot of others.
@ifuseekamy, this occurs in all religions so your argument is pointless. Muslims mostly condemn Extremists and are indeed ashamed; they still believe this is a religion of peace, and do not have such hatred views in the majority of Muslim countries.
Of course Muslims would have Negative views on Christianity and Judaism etc. but so do we.
This is just a vicious circle, where religion is the cause of most issues.
Hitman
17-06-2010, 10:16 AM
Eggy,
I understand this and I am sure others do. Islamic extremists call the 'modern' Mulims non-Muslims because they don't follow everything to the point and are more integrated into British society then extremists. I have a Muslim friend and he's not a terrorist so of course I realise that. ;)
Regarding homosexuality, my 'modern' Muslim friend despises gays and Jews.
RedStratocas
17-06-2010, 06:57 PM
hasnt this been the way every war ever fought has worked? one side's hero is another side's terrorist. its not a right/wrong thing its a matter of perspective.
honestly i think they have every right to protest, never should we let unpopular opinions be unheard. people expressing things like this is what keeps government in line. to them, the military is full of "murderers," just like their muslim extremists are "murderers" to us. while their opinions sound offensive, they remain opinions just like any other.
Hitman
17-06-2010, 07:34 PM
hasnt this been the way every war ever fought has worked? one side's hero is another side's terrorist. its not a right/wrong thing its a matter of perspective.
honestly i think they have every right to protest, never should we let unpopular opinions be unheard. people expressing things like this is what keeps government in line. to them, the military is full of "murderers," just like their muslim extremists are "murderers" to us. while their opinions sound offensive, they remain opinions just like any other.
oh well that's fine then. :rolleyes: of course they can have their opinion, but to protest when the soldiers have just got back from Afghanistan is just awful. And if we were in a war which threatened the UK directly, these men and women in the Armed Forces would be fighting for everybody in the country - even these Islamic extremists, yet they will still slate them, even when they are saving their ungrateful backsides.
It is just downright disrespectful and disgusts me.
alexxxxx
17-06-2010, 09:23 PM
youve got to remember that islam is a new(er) religion than christianity and perhaps it's just at the end of its religious war phase. A large proportion of muslims do sort of disregard their religion and its teachings in the west. trust me i know. ;)
eventually islam will water itself down to christianity now.
Rapidshare
18-06-2010, 12:02 PM
I quote
The majority of Muslims who are killed and injured by bombs and bullets are killed and injured by OTHER MUSLIMS, not by western troops. What do these people think would happen if NATO troops were not in Afghanistan? Do they think it would turn overnight into a peaceful nation where everybody loved and respected everybody else, where nobody was killed or injured, where everyone lived a decent, productive life, protected by just laws? Get real! I am sick of seeing Muslims depicting themselves as victims. Islam is at war with itself. Muslims must start being honest about who the real enemy is and address this issue.
I cant be arsed to agrue why people who protest. They just deserved to be deported.
BeanEgg
20-06-2010, 01:37 PM
This may be interesting for some people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA&feature=player_embedded#at=149
Hitman
20-06-2010, 01:43 PM
Dunno what to think. Maybe AL Qaeda doesn't exist, but the Taliban does.
-:Undertaker:-
25-06-2010, 04:51 PM
so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?
and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.
Hang on a second, havent you in the past (forgive me if you havent) been one of those who have attacked me when I say we should abolish all anti-discrimination laws and allow total free speech - strange how it only works one way isnt it?
I would personally allow total free speech - because thats what free speech is. However to prevent this sort of thing happening on the scale that it is now, I would have this country out of the European Union and it would regain control of its borders and have a proper immigration system in place. I can gurantee that most muslim nutcases do not work and are on benefits and that should not be happening, thus they then wouldnt be here to air those views.
Omfg? They are voicing their opinion on the war by doing the only thing possible to get someone to listen?!@#$$$ how dare they!_#)##(
Sameer!
27-06-2010, 07:22 AM
I'm a Muslim, yes. I COMPLETELY DISAGREE AND HATE THESE KIND OF PROTESTS. This is not the way to protray our religion, these guys are just stupid and the EXTRMIST Muslims should be kicked out, not the peaceful and right ones.
Hitman
27-06-2010, 08:58 AM
Omfg? They are voicing their opinion on the war by doing the only thing possible to get someone to listen?!@#$$$ how dare they!_#)##(
Yeah great opinion by shouting murderers, that's REALLY going to get people to listen to them. Fool. And have you not realised it's the Government NOT the soldiers who can change anything, so they are wasting their time if they are protesting - but they're not, they are simply on a hate campaign against the soldiers.
I'm a Muslim, yes. I COMPLETELY DISAGREE AND HATE THESE KIND OF PROTESTS. This is not the way to protray our religion, these guys are just stupid and the EXTRMIST Muslims should be kicked out, not the peaceful and right ones.
Hear hear! These people are a minority and need to be kicked out of the country - they are always threatening bloodshed and violence. And the PC brigade, don't start crying that it's their options and freedom of speech - these extremists hate freedom of speech and freedom altogether, which is ironic, wanting to kill people are threaten violence is where the line should be drawn. But oh no, they are extremists, we wouldn't want to offend them now would we? -.-
Sameer!
27-06-2010, 10:15 AM
WHat, just the extreme ones?
Hitman
10-07-2010, 12:59 PM
WHat, just the extreme ones?
Sorry for not replying, didn't see this. Yeah, the extremists need to be kicked out (didn't mean all Muslims! :P)
-:Undertaker:-
11-07-2010, 12:25 AM
I myself are for complete freedom of speech provided it does not direct people to harm others. However I could gurantee that under an ideal immigration system, these islamic extremists would not even gain access in the first place and why? not because I dont agree with their views, but because I can safely bet that the majority of this lot do not even work and have never worked - and thus would not be allowed into the United Kingdom in the first place.
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