Spam Rules

[Tintinnabulate]

I cannot remember if it was in the rules before, but the new rule thread posted by Oli today states:


~ You must not advertise any websites in the spam forum

Yes we have a 'Show Off Your Websites' section but I just think this rule is silly. On one hand you say you want to be more lenient, on the other you make silly rules such as above.

We have always been allowed to advertise sites in spam, why suddenly change it?

i.e. http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=650871

[Hecktix]

It's never been allowed :)

[Calvin]

It's never been allowed :)People have been putting websites there for a while, it was never removed. I personally think it's just a silly rule and doesn't need to be there.

[Tintinnabulate]

It's never been allowed :)

If its been in the rules, then it seems moderators chose to ignore the rule and let us do it - and so have past admins. I have done it several times and never been warned. I think the rule should be removed. Its Spam, don't be strict. Yes, don't allow mass spamming of sites, but not allowing it at all isn't fair at all.

[Hecktix]

If its been in the rules, then it seems moderators chose to ignore the rule and let us do it - and so have past admins. I have done it several times and never been warned. I think the rule should be removed. Its Spam, don't be strict. Yes, don't allow mass spamming of sites, but not allowing it at all isn't fair at all.

I've not seen it be ignored in my time in the department, we are talking about blatent advertisment here by the way - people simply trying to channel traffic to their sites or their friends sites or whatever.

[Tintinnabulate]

Secondly, the rule was made by Seacat when the forum was stricter. I thought the new management were aiming to be lenient? There is no harm in doing so. The rule was probs made for mass spamming and people being silly. I have posted links to my site there before, never been warned as no moderator has ever really saw it as a problem.

[hah]

yeah its always been there and always been a stupid rule.... along with "dont act like a mod"

[Hecktix]

Secondly, the rule was made by Seacat when the forum was stricter. I thought the new management were aiming to be lenient? There is no harm in doing so. The rule was probs made for mass spamming and people being silly. I have posted links to my site there before, never been warned as no moderator has ever really saw it as a problem.

It's not going to change as there's no need to use spam to advertise websites - we have a specific forum for it.

[Tintinnabulate]

yeah its always been there and always been a stupid rule.... along with "dont act like a mod"

That I think is a ******ed rule. We are saying "hey its already been posted here: link" or "Its the wrong forum, its better suited here: link" is helping the member and most times the member is quicker than the mod. If someone says it nicely, should be allowed but if its said harshly, it shouldn't be allowed.

[hah]

yeah i remember some time last year catzsy (not targeting it was only her :l) edited my posts for things like ":o you avoided the filter"
i know she is just doing her job....but its a stupid rule lol

[Hecktix]

yeah i remember some time last year catzsy (not targeting it was only her :l) edited my posts for things like ":o you avoided the filter"
i know she is just doing her job....but its a stupid rule lol

I am not saying Catzsy was wrong as last year moderation was entirely different, but such posts would not get dealt with now.

We use the "please leave moderating to the moderators" rule now when people are simply posting to be a pain and tell other members that they've posted in the wrong place etc - this can appear intimidating to some members especially if they are new and unfamiliar with the rules, we hire the moderators to sort out any problems around the forum - a member doesn't need telling they've done the wrong thing by a member too.

[dirrty]

so you essentially can't post any websites in spam as some way or another it's advertising?

[hah]

so you essentially can't post any websites in spam as some way or another it's advertising?

if this is the case then does that mean posting youtube links is against the rules :L

[Hecktix]

so you essentially can't post any websites in spam as some way or another it's advertising?

You cannot post a thread in spam simply advertising a site - if you are posting a link for another reason then it's fine, but blatent advertisements are not.

I really don't see what the issue is, this rule has been around for years.

[dirrty]

if this is the case then does that mean posting youtube links is against the rules :L
because technically that's advertising youtube as your telling people to on their site and thus the site gets more traffic or w.e :l

[xxMATTGxx]

This rule has been in place for a long time. Basically: If you want to advertise your own website then do it in the correct forum. If you are linking to websites about something such as BBC News or whatever then it isn't an issue.

[W00TZEH]

You cannot post a thread in spam simply advertising a site - if you are posting a link for another reason then it's fine, but blatent advertisements are not.

I really don't see what the issue is, this rule has been around for years.
Because it was about the user who posted the thread and he wanted to show us, Misawa is disliked by most people (no offence to him ) but this thread just proves that people thought what he posted was ok.

[Hecktix]

People clearly can't crack the fact that nothing's changed, it's been the same a very long time.

You are allowed to refer to websites so long as linking the website has a purpose other than blatently trying to get traffic onto their site.

I.e.


LOL look at the images on this page, they are so funny http://funnyimageshere.com/funnyimages2.html"

This is allowed, as it always has been and the way people post on a daily basis like this, links to news articles etc etc etc

threads posted with the sole intention of advertising sites, simply LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE: WWW.MYSITE.COM (http://WWW.MYSITE.COM) etc are not allowed.

Misawa, was clearly trying to advertise some radio interview he was part of - which he can do, in the correct forum.

[hah]

You cannot post a thread in spam simply advertising a site - if you are posting a link for another reason then it's fine, but blatent advertisements are not.

I really don't see what the issue is, this rule has been around for years.

but if someone makes a thread and only has a youtube in the videos thats essentially advertising the youtube site.... so you're saying thats not allowed :S

[W00TZEH]

If i had an audio interview with say Wayne rooney and I put it on my website, would I be allowed to post a link to that?

[Hecktix]

If i had an audio interview with say Wayne rooney and I put it on my website, would I be allowed to post a link to that?

No - as it would validly fit in another forum if you posted it in spam you are clearly just trying to advertise it.

[hah]

You're contradicting yourself oli... he was posting a radio interview asking people to go to the site and listen
whats the difference between someone posting a youtube link and saying look?

[W00TZEH]

No - as it would validly fit in another forum if you posted it in spam you are clearly just trying to advertise it.
Of course I'm trying to advertise it, why wouldn't I want to advertise it? What's wrong with advertising it? Why close the thread instead of moving to the relevant forum?

[Hecktix]

You're contradicting yourself oli... he was posting a radio interview asking people to go to the site and listen
whats the difference between someone posting a youtube link and saying look?

He was advertising his own site - purely to get listeners.

This rule has never caused problems before so I don't see what the issue is. It will not be changing.

[hah]

look everyone i can bold certain words


its a stupid rule.... end of. it should just be done away with in spam.... i dont see how its going to affect ANYONE if he shows people an interview on his site

[Hecktix]

I have amended the rule in spam to make it clear for those who don't understand.

[myke]

if he posted advertising a radio interview he was in and it got removed then that's kinda harsh lol ... he was probably proud of himself or w.e and then posted it to get a discussion going, but rather than posting it in a forum that is very 'constructive' about it, he decided to post in the most laid back forum...

i do this sometimes if i don't want to discuss something so seriously, or only want to share a thought or something in the spur of the moment, i post in spam.

e.g. when i got my invisible car, i didnt want to post in the car section, so i posted in spam for a more laid back discussion?

if he had said CLICK THIS LINK AND COME TO MY WEBSITE

then ok... but w.e im not too bothered cus i dont know the full story

[dirrty]

i didn't think it was his radio though as he was being interviewed on an internet radio.

so really, if one words their post correctly, it can be easily avoided (advertising). i don't post threads rly anyway so doesn't affect me lol.

[Hecktix]

if he posted advertising a radio interview he was in and it got removed then that's kinda harsh lol ... he was probably proud of himself or w.e and then posted it to get a discussion going, but rather than posting it in a forum that is very 'constructive' about it, he decided to post in the most laid back forum...

i do this sometimes if i don't want to discuss something so seriously, or only want to share a thought or something in the spur of the moment, i post in spam.

e.g. when i got my invisible car, i didnt want to post in the car section, so i posted in spam for a more laid back discussion?

if he had said CLICK THIS LINK AND COME TO MY WEBSITE

then ok... but w.e im not too bothered cus i dont know the full story

Not that moderators decisions should be discussed in feedback, but what he did was pretty much the same as if someone from Clubhabbo came along and posted "LISTEN TO MY RADIO SHOW - CLUBHABBO.NET" in the spam forum. It's not necessary.

[W00TZEH]

I have amended the rule in spam to make it clear for those who don't understand.
Still not clarified, Show off your website is for websites being created, meaning the layout. What comes under etc? You said news articles, images ??? video? audio? interviews?

[xxMATTGxx]

Ok, let's make this clear.

This RULE has been here for over two years. The rule does not need changing, advertising your own website for your own benefit such as "TUNE INTO WWW.YOURDOMAIN.COM AT 9PM" is NOT allowed in spam. If you wish to advertise your website for whatever reason or a website you may work on then there is a correct section for that.

If you are posting links to websites such as: Youtube, Wikipedia, BBC and so on. That is not really advertising for your own benefit, there would be reasons behind that. Such as "Lmao at this video www.youtube.com/blahblahblah.

It has been like this for donkeys like it has been mentioned time and time again.

End Of.

[Hecktix]

Ok, let's make this clear.

This RULE has been here for over two years. The rule does not need changing, advertising your own website for your own benefit such as "TUNE INTO WWW.YOURDOMAIN.COM AT 9PM" is NOT allowed in spam. If you wish to advertise your website for whatever reason or a website you may work on then there is a correct section for that.

If you are posting links to websites such as: Youtube, Wikipedia, BBC and so on. That is not really advertising for your own benefit, there would be reasons behind that. Such as "Lmao at this video www.youtube.com/blahblahblah.

It has been like this for donkeys like it has been mentioned time and time again.

End Of.

Doesn't have to be your website remember Matt - see above example.

[xxMATTGxx]

Doesn't have to be your website remember Matt - see above example.

I also mentioned if it's a website they work on, it's a no no.

[Inseriousity.]

if he posted advertising a radio interview he was in and it got removed then that's kinda harsh lol ... he was probably proud of himself or w.e and then posted it to get a discussion going, but rather than posting it in a forum that is very 'constructive' about it, he decided to post in the most laid back forum...

I agree with this. :)
I think that spam should be treated as just that; spam. Not intended for serious discussion, just a chilling out forum. I think only the basic rules should apply in there (e.g. do not offend other members).

[myke]

if he was on the radio at that precise second, spam is much like a shoutbox and most people read spam rather than specified forums, so it'd get instant people listening?

god knows

*leaving thread now, quite bored*

[Hecktix]

if he was on the radio at that precise second, spam is much like a shoutbox and most people read spam rather than specified forums, so it'd get instant people listening?

god knows

*leaving thread now, quite bored*


Thus using spam for advertising which has been against the rules here since the beginning.

[hah]

so if i dj posts saying tune into habboxlive.com to hear me dj is that banned because they work there :rolleyes:

[Hecktix]

Ok, let's make this clear.

This RULE has been here for over two years. The rule does not need changing, advertising your own website for your own benefit such as "TUNE INTO WWW.YOURDOMAIN.COM (http://WWW.YOURDOMAIN.COM) AT 9PM" is NOT allowed in spam. If you wish to advertise your website for whatever reason or a website you may work on then there is a correct section for that.

If you are posting links to websites such as: Youtube, Wikipedia, BBC and so on. That is not really advertising for your own benefit, there would be reasons behind that. Such as "Lmao at this video www.youtube.com/blahblahblah (http://www.youtube.com/blahblahblah).

It has been like this for donkeys like it has been mentioned time and time again.

End Of.

As Matt has stated this rule has been how it is for ages. We simply will not allow spam used for advertisments, whilst we are more lax on the rules in spam, it should be for general chit-chat and not somewhere to go spam your advertisements to get more hits on your site/radio show etc.

Although rather blunt, Matt hits the nail on the head when he says "end of" at the end of his explanation, which clearly shows what is allowed and what isn't.

@ Graham - in my opinion, HabboxLive DJ's shouldn't be using spam to advertise either - they have a community noticeboard forum for that

Thread closed.