Unfiltering an acronym.

[MrPinkPanther]

Shouldn't HBXF unfilter a certain word now that Habbo are using it in headlines?
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Credit to Saurav for this:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=652038&p=6561746#post6561746

[Sameer!]

Guess so but people could start abusing it.

[xxMATTGxx]

Habbo are using it in a different context compared to what most people on this forum would use.

[Stryderman]

Tbh theres no real reason why it should be unfiltered its got the "f" word in which is filtered all over the forum

[Calvin]

Guess so but people could start abusing it.How can they abuse the word 'wtf'?

And yeah, it shouldn't really be filtered in the first place.. :S

[Stryderman]

^ yh it should like i said the last letter stands for a word which is filtered if u unfilter the word in OP then you could argue to unfilter the f word?

[Calvin]

Who cares if it has a swear word in it, **** obviously wouldn't be unfiltered but theres no point filtering silly abbreviations like this because they aren't considered offensive or anything.

[xxMATTGxx]

Who cares if it has a swear word in it, **** obviously wouldn't be unfiltered but theres no point filtering silly abbreviations like this because they aren't considered offensive or anything.

Most of them got unfiltered once, then there was an uproar when users were being punished for avoiding the filter with other words and complained that people got away with it with ***** etc.

[Calvin]

Well maybe you should check what it means before warning users?

[xxMATTGxx]

Well maybe you should check what it means before warning users?

I know what *** means. We have said time and time again we don't want to let users swear on the forum as it makes the place look untidy and what not.

[Calvin]

I know what *** means. We have said time and time again we don't want to let users swear on the forum as it makes the place look untidy and what not.Would be nice for a no filter option then.

[xxMATTGxx]

Would be nice for a no filter option then.

I'm not sure if that is even possible. If there's an add-on for it, then we won't be installing that I'm afraid.

Reason behind it:

People don't need to swear on the forum, it is unnecessary. If you want to make a point with something, then there is other words you can use. Although the way Habbo is using it is for a different context. It would also cause moderation issues which we don't want either.

[Nemo]

I know what *** means. We have said time and time again we don't want to let users swear on the forum as it makes the place look untidy and what not.
How does *** look any different from wth? I understand perhaps **** as its the full word and can look untidy, but *** is hardly that. Also, if you wanna bring up the case of younger people learning swear words, if they know what the f is then they knew how to swear anyway.

[Calvin]

I'm not sure if that is even possible. If there's an add-on for it, then we won't be installing that I'm afraid.

Reason behind it:

People don't need to sear on the forum, it is unnecessary. If you want to make a point with something, then there is other words you can possible use. Although the way Habbo is using it, is for a different context. It would also cause moderation issues which we don't want either.w t f(riday)

But yeah, I know people don't need to swear but there is no point of it being filtered as it isn't offensive, if they said 'what the f' then obviously they'll face the consequences. But I guess your main audience is kids so there you go.

[xxMATTGxx]

How does *** look any different from wth? I understand perhaps **** as its the full word and can look untidy, but *** is hardly that. Also, if you wanna bring up the case of younger people learning swear words, if they know what the f is then they knew how to swear anyway.

What the hell looks a lot better than ***. I wasn't even going to bring up the younger argument, I'm just saying there is not going be an on/off function for the filter.

[Nemo]

What the hell looks a lot better than ***. I wasn't even going to bring up the younger argument, I'm just saying there is not going be an on/off function for the filter.
Im not typing what the hell or what the **** though, we're talking about abbreviations here, and personally, i dont see the trouble between 2 letters. It can't even be used in an offensive way and if people are like YEH BUT I CAN SWEAR HERE WHY NOT THERE, just tell em to shut up if im honest. Oh and i dont mind having an on/off function, i dont really care massively about swearing, i just find it a bit silly (which kind of voids my post but yeh ^^, i guess i like to argue :()

[Hecktix]

I know what *** means. We have said time and time again we don't want to let users swear on the forum as it makes the place look untidy and what not.


I'm not sure if that is even possible. If there's an add-on for it, then we won't be installing that I'm afraid.

Reason behind it:

People don't need to swear on the forum, it is unnecessary. If you want to make a point with something, then there is other words you can use. Although the way Habbo is using it is for a different context. It would also cause moderation issues which we don't want either.

Matt's pretty much summed up the arguments against taking these abbreviations out of the filter and turning off the filter would be a logistical nightmare.

Whilst we allow filter avoidance in context, for example saurav avoided the W T F to post the thread in news & rumours - this is perfectly acceptable but it's not something we are going to permit forumwide and this decision will not change, sorry guys!

[GommeInc]

We only have them (re)filtered because Sammeth had kittens and power abused. He had 2 points against blocking them and a few of us had one which were all countered, but obviously his head was bigger than his brain so he went with our one point proven wrong against his two points proven wrong. Avoiding the filter vs. rudeness and swearing. They do avoid the filter (where I and a few others were wrong), but he and a few others were proven drastically wrong, because they are not swearing nor rude.

Abbreviations are not a form of swearing, never have been, never will. When they were unfiltered they were perfectly fine, it was like reading Facebook or a normal forum where communcation is free (without appearing rude, and abbreviations are certainly NOT rude OR appearing as swear words, because they're not swearing). The only thing they do is border breaking the "avoiding the filter" rule, though avoiding the filter usually is with regards with whole words and not words that are abbreviations.

My 2 cents.

[Tintinnabulate]

We only have them (re)filtered because Sammeth had kittens and power abused ... obviously his head was bigger than his brain so

Couldn't agree more. I don't mind if its unfiltered really.

[GommeInc]

Couldn't agree more. I don't mind if its unfiltered really.
It's how the "kids" speak nowadays. They're not intentionally being rude and they're certainly not swearing, and I bet they're not intentionally "avoiding the filter", seeing as it is common to speak like that. Surely we should be going by intentions, and not mindless systematic responses of " it R avoiding"?

[Grig]

When I first saw something filtered on the news feed I was like WHAT lol, then I realized it was that and it was filtered on the forum. Maybe unfilter it for the Habbo UK News forum only or something?

[Hecktix]

When I first saw something filtered on the news feed I was like WHAT lol, then I realized it was that and it was filtered on the forum. Maybe unfilter it for the Habbo UK News forum only or something?

The filter can be avoided (like Saurav did when posting it) in contexts like this :)

[Recursion]

Habbo don't mean it in a different way at all, and even if they do, everyone in their heads probably say the F word before their brain reacts to the (riday) bit.

They are talking about a help service on a friday, so the headline actually reads "What The **** Friday", people are thinking "***??" when they don't get something, and Friday is the day they can ask, combining the two.

But I also agree with the fact it makes the forum look untidy, leave the swear filter in.

[MrPinkPanther]

I don't really like swearing but I think that since Habbo is using it it should be acceptable in a certain context and I suppose like you say it is Oli. But I personally think it should be unfiltered and people should be punished for abusing it. For example if I called someone an idiot then my post would be edited for being rude, maybe the same rule could be applied for W T F? Despite what it stands for I don't think it can be used in a particuarly abusive way, as someone said it equates to "WTH" which is of course not filtered. You can't really tell someone to "W T F off", well you could but you'd look like a fool.

Anyway I don't really mind if it's filtered or not, I just thought I'd bring it up since I saw it on Habbo :).

[Hecktix]

My main issue with this is that if we unfilter certain abbreviations people will want more unfiltered and there has to be a line drawn somewhere, I did disagree with them getting re-filtered last time although I did see the point.

General Management are also against it to my knowledge, but Idk - I was extremely for it when I became AFM but then all that kaffuffle happened with Sammeth & titch and it was just like woahhhh...

[GommeInc]

My main issue with this is that if we unfilter certain abbreviations people will want more unfiltered and there has to be a line drawn somewhere, I did disagree with them getting re-filtered last time although I did see the point.

General Management are also against it to my knowledge, but Idk - I was extremely for it when I became AFM but then all that kaffuffle happened with Sammeth & titch and it was just like woahhhh...
That was such a pointless argument - titch only wanted to know what the rules were regarding it. No line was drawn, but apparently everyone crossed the line and all hell broke loose! Besides, there is no line with abbreviations. OM.F.G is fine, it's only really bad when people spell out swear words claiming they're abbreviations.

[xxMATTGxx]

I hope you enjoy the fancy words from now on. ;)

[GommeInc]

Well slap me thrice and hand me to my mumma :O

[Hecktix]

That was such a pointless argument - titch only wanted to know what the rules were regarding it. No line was drawn, but apparently everyone crossed the line and all hell broke loose! Besides, there is no line with abbreviations. OM.F.G is fine, it's only really bad when people spell out swear words claiming they're abbreviations.

Yes, you are right. Oh, I forgot **** - will remove that too.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well slap me thrice and hand me to my mumma :O

Sure! :P

[Nixt]

wtf they're letting us use abbreviations. this is insane.

[Hecktix]

wtf they're letting us use abbreviations. this is insane.

lmfao garion :S

[xxMATTGxx]

wtf they're letting us use abbreviations. this is insane.


lmfao garion :S

omfg this is crazy!!!

[Tintinnabulate]

lmfao garion :S

WTF. STOP POINTLESS POSTING OR I WILL REPORT U.
[caps off]

[GommeInc]

WTF. STOP POINTLESS POSTING OR I WILL REPORT U.
[caps off]
OMFG. LEAVE MODERATING TO THE MODERATORS. WTF?
FYL :P

/caps

Awww, so many flips and flippings :D

[Martin]

will somebody tell me wtf is happening? :'( Are these words allowed now? or are you all just messin? -Is confused-

[xxMATTGxx]

will somebody tell me wtf is happening? :'( Are these words allowed now? or are you all just messin? -Is confused-

Read the latest Dev announcement and you will find out and no it isn't a joke!

[Martin]

omfg that's great :D I didn't see that announcement. ;)

[Hecktix]

omfg like fml i have to go out now.

Glad this change seems liked :D I have a few more up my sleeve for sunday :D

[Tintinnabulate]

Sammeth says: FML

He is probs fuming right now.

[GommeInc]

Bolt mentioned FF.S in the moderator questions/help forum. That's a pretty harmless one, and probably more harmless than WTF :P

[Tintinnabulate]

Bolt mentioned FF.S in the moderator questions/help forum. That's a pretty harmless one, and probably more harmless than WTF :P

oh so thats what he was referring to. yeah should be unfiltered

[Inseriousity.]

lmfao at oli giving answers to questions that haven't even been asked yet :P

agreed with martin, that should be unfiltered too :)

[Tintinnabulate]

lmfao at oli giving answers to questions that haven't even been asked yet :P

agreed with martin, that should be unfiltered too :)

what questions?

[Inseriousity.]

what questions?

exactly, good to see your brain's working today.

it's the 'questions/queries about habbox' forum and no-one's asked anything and oli's making threads is what I was getting at. :P

[Nemo]

We won? OMFG

[Tintinnabulate]

exactly, good to see your brain's working today.

it's the 'questions/queries about habbox' forum and no-one's asked anything and oli's making threads is what I was getting at. :P

i thought u meant in this thread
yeah lol i pointed it out via VM to him

he probs meant to me it in Mods only forum

[Martin]

Have moved that thread now. :P I was thinking Gomme had access to the mod only forums for a minute then and got a little worried I was being stalked, since I didn't notice it was in the wrong place either. :D

[GommeInc]

Have moved that thread now. :P I was thinking Gomme had access to the mod only forums for a minute then and got a little worried I was being stalked, since I didn't notice it was in the wrong place either. :D
Heavens no, I stalk you through other things ;)

[Inseriousity.]

Heavens no, I stalk you through other things ;)

psst he works in a tesco, bakery...

LOL aww bless oli, he must be tired managing this forum if he's posting in the questions/queries about Habbox. I mean, they're not even close!

[GommeInc]

psst he works in a tesco, bakery...
*cough*
I know... ;) I have a picture of him standing straight with his hands on his hips, and a baguette placed on a table infront of him pointing out from his crotch. It gives me much pleasure ;)
*end cough*

[MrPinkPanther]

OMFG I can't believe this is happening, WTF why couldn't it have happened before I grew up and stopped swearing unless I hurt myself (which is quite often ^^). FML.

High five Oli.

[Inseriousity.]

*cough*
I know... ;) I have a picture of him standing straight with his hands on his hips, and a baguette placed on a table infront of him pointing out from his crotch. It gives me much pleasure ;)
*end cough*

lolol he used to work in the fish counter but a piece of cod placed on the table didn't quite work as well tbh :(

anyway, yeah this new update thing... it's good.

[MrPinkPanther]

wtf they're letting us use abbreviations. this is insane.


omfg this is crazy!!!


lmfao garion :S

Edited by MrPinkPanther (Forum Nobody): Please do not avoid the filter in line with the HabboxForum rules which you agreed to when you signed up

http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=swearing&titleandtext=1&match=all

[Mathew]

Edited by MrPinkPanther (Forum Nobody): Please do not avoid the filter in line with the HabboxForum rules which you agreed to when you signed up

http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=swearing&titleandtext=1&match=all

lmfao.

I don't really swear so it didn't matter either way to me, but I do think in today's society, these words are losing their meaning.
Oh, and I do love the latest Competitions Staff Changes (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=652114&p=6562438) showcasing these new acronyms.. :P

[Warchamp7]

What the friday is wrong with using wtf?

[GommeInc]

No-one frigging knows. Hopefully we'll get a response from a freakin' admin though :P

[MrPinkPanther]

I'm tempted to request a name change to FML now.

[Calvin]

LOL Mike, legend!

[Hecktix]

psst he works in a tesco, bakery...

LOL aww bless oli, he must be tired managing this forum if he's posting in the questions/queries about Habbox. I mean, they're not even close!

ah but when you type "mod" into the address bar both comes up and forum moderators only is usually the first :'(

[Tintinnabulate]

ah but when you type "mod" into the address bar both comes up and forum moderators only is usually the first :'(

rename it to:

sauravisgreat Forum Moderators Only

that way you will always get the right forum for sure in the future

[Recursion]

WTF. Unneeded change :(

[Hecktix]

WTF. Unneeded change :(

It's not much difference either way, it's not blatent swearing and if I'm honest seeing *** all over pisses me off, and I do like to say FML.

[The Professor]

Slippery slope is slippery. Past mistakes don't seemed to be learned from.

If it goes breasts up, I called it.

[Hecktix]

Slippery slope is slippery. Past mistakes don't seemed to be learned from.

If it goes breasts up, I called it.

I have quite strong values when it comes to swearing here, I don't mind the acronyms but that's quite simply where it stops and there's no discussing that as far as I'm concerned and I think a lot of people agree.

[hah]

hey guys i just got infracted for saying i word i thought was unfiltered
why wasn't it made clear lol?





jkes great change oli x

[Stephen]

wtf omfg fml lmfao


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts.

[GommeInc]

Slippery slope is slippery. Past mistakes don't seemed to be learned from.

If it goes breasts up, I called it.
What past mistake? The last time abbreviations were unfiltered it worked well. No-one knows why they we re-filtered, someone asked what the ruling was and apparently that means "over-stepping the line".

[Camy]

I think this was a good decision, the acronyms unfiltered are pretty commonly used ones, and aren't really offensive.
It's as far as swearing should go though, any more isn't needed.

[Grig]

What past mistake? The last time abbreviations were unfiltered it worked well. No-one knows why they we re-filtered, someone asked what the ruling was and apparently that means "over-stepping the line".

There was a whole inncident with Sammeth and Titch, where Titch got warned and made a whole big deal out of some things being filtered, whilst others not and saying all things should be filtered. Sammeth decided to do so.

[Inseriousity.]

Slippery slope is slippery. Past mistakes don't seemed to be learned from.

If it goes breasts moobs up, I called it.

I don't think it'll be a slippery slope if the forum moderators put a carpet down* (nice analogy eh?). lolol reminds me of those lessons in school "how fast will this car go down the slope with a) bubble wrap, b) carpet etc."

in other words, they put some rules down, which I think they already have. It's really hard to put these abbreviations into a context that allows it to break the other rules imo

[MrPinkPanther]

I'm bored of these now, can we filter them again? ^^

[Catzsy]

I'm bored of these now, can we filter them again? ^^

Lol:) Just wait and see if the members are happy with it or if it's a case of them posting threads in the weeks to come to to try and extend it further. They are the most harmless forms of swearing and it's correct to say that they couldn't be used to be rude to people so see how it goes.

[GommeInc]

There was a whole inncident with Sammeth and Titch, where Titch got warned and made a whole big deal out of some things being filtered, whilst others not and saying all things should be filtered. Sammeth decided to do so.
And we witnessed it. He (Titch) asked what the ruling was and our dear old EX-General Manager went on some power hungry spree and re-filtered them pointlessly, with no reason :/other than "people were given an inch and took a mile", yet there was no evidence of this as again, all that happened was a member asking (quite politely) what the rules are regarding them, even though there are rules to ensure rudeness and bullying do not happen. Thankfully, he's gone now.


Lol:) Just wait and see if the members are happy with it or if it's a case of them posting threads in the weeks to come to to try and extend it further. They are the most harmless forms of swearing and it's correct to say that they couldn't be used to be rude to people so see how it goes.
I love you sometimes ;)

[Adamm]

what about f f s?

[GommeInc]

what about f f s?
I think *** was unfiltered? Bolt was discussing it at some point in another thread. Not sure *posts*

EDIT: No :P

[Martin]

has been mentioned (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=652045&p=6562444#post6562444), but yeah I would like to see that one get unfiltered too, as it's very similar (if not less harmless) than the others, and is used a lot these days.


Will ask Oliva when he gets back for yous. xD

[Hecktix]

*** I forgot ***, consider it doneee (:

[Recursion]

offs. More being unfiltered?!

Bored of these now LOL, the asterisks added a certain... je ne sais quoi to posts :P

[MrPinkPanther]

offs. More being unfiltered?!

Bored of these now LOL, the asterisks added a certain... je ne sais quoi to posts :P

It shows how angry you are. I might just start putting stars in for the hell of it.

[FlyingJesus]

I'm away for two days...

In my view abbreviated swearing is still swearing because unless it's an abbreviation which has become a word in itself (lol, PETA, and so on) I read it as the phrase rather than the lettering. Also it wasn't pointlessly refiltered as part of a power trip before, it was done because Garion had been rash in his decision to unfilter them and had to my memory made odd choices on what should and shouldn't still on the filter.