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-:Undertaker:-
29-06-2010, 10:23 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/7861400/David-Cameron-will-back-down-in-fight-with-EU-say-officials.html
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1746-marta-disgusted-at-secret-aifm-meeting


David Cameron will break his promise not to transfer powers to Brussels by yielding to plans for an EU "economic government" and City regulation, senior unelected European officials have predicted.



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Britain has opposed German and French calls for European Commission scrutiny of national budgets and is against the creation of Europe-wide financial supervisors that can overrule British regulators in the City of London. Both issues are top of the agenda for Belgium as it takes over the EU's six month rotating presidency on July 1, giving the small, federalist country a leading role in negotiations.

A senior Belgian official has suggested that the Prime Minister will ultimately back down now that elections, and forming a government, were behind him. "We will wait until some weeks after the elections," said the official. "It is sometimes easier to discuss after elections." Belgian negotiators are convinced that Mr Cameron's hard line opposition to giving more sovereignty up to the EU, a pledge written into his coalition government's agreement, will be sacrificed in the interests of pragmatism. The senior source observed that no EU agreements would ever be possible if all European leaders stuck to the "totality" of their election manifestoes.

"It is impossible to have compromise with total programmes," he said. Conservatives have dismissed the Belgian claim as wishful thinking and an exercise of "viewing the world through their own eyes". "We are pragmatic but we are also robust in defence of the national interest," said a conservative source. Belgium has acknowledged that there will be a major battle over proposals to give the EU powers to vet budgets before they are presented to national parliaments. Formal legislative proposals on "budget peer review" and increased "budgetary surveillance" to prevent another euro zone debt crisis will be tabled by the Commission Wednesday.

"There is a question of sovereignty if the role of the European Commission in economic government is reinforced," admitted the Belgian source. Belgian officials, with strong French and German support, are pushing hard to set up new EU supervisors to police financial markets, giving European authorities the power to dictate to regulators in the City of London. "It is necessary to transfer some decisions away from national to European authorities," said the source. EU officials have warned British diplomats that the Lisbon Treaty means it will have to compromise on sovereignty because Britain does not have veto for either the budget scrutiny or financial market supervision measures.

Belgium is also ready to pick a fight with Britain over plans for new European-wide taxes to directly fund the EU independently of contributions from national treasuries. "We can also explore, for example, the financing of European projects via new sources of revenue," said the government source. Britain, along with other countries, does not want to give Brussels any tax raising powers and is deeply suspicious of EU attempts to get a share of new types of taxation, such as levies on financial transactions or CO2 emissions. "Couldn't these new types of income at least in part be channelled towards major European-level projects? This is a debate we should be holding," said the Belgian source. "We shouldn't bury everything in national budgets."The European Union is now trying to tax your family, our business and so forth directly meaning that the EU will be able to charge for taxation to fund its own, overbloated budget of which its accounts have not been signed off for over a decade with billions suspected missing in corruption and fraud. The whole point of democracy and elections is that you vote in the people you want to make your social policy, economic policy (which of course includes taxation) and political policy - the EU on the other hand has moved into nearly all of these areas, has never been voted for and is not even elected.

Do you support new EU wide taxes?
Do you think the EU should have anything to do with taxation?

It may be another EU thread, but its important people realise whats going on with this project and the sooner we wake up, the better. It may also interest supporters of David Miliband in the Labour leadership contest that he is a euro-federalist who would quite happily abolish the United Kingdom and establish a United States of Europe - of course if you are supporting him, the question you must ask yourself is why is he standing for office in a country he wishes to cease to exist?

Thoughts?

Caution
29-06-2010, 10:31 PM
I just wonder how much longer it will take people to see what the EU really is. What's the point in electing people to run the country when there's unelected people running it outside of the country as well. Of course the EU should have nothing to do with taxation.

alexxxxx
30-06-2010, 09:25 AM
funny how this hasnt been reported anywhere else

ifuseekamy
30-06-2010, 01:26 PM
Why don't we just reclaim the British Empire? :S I'm sure that'd be better for our trade and services.

Alkaz
30-06-2010, 01:39 PM
Why don't we just reclaim the British Empire? :S I'm sure that'd be better for our trade and services.
Because that is immoral and racist, also you would come up against a lot of health and safety and other rules and regulations so we just wouldn't bother.

FlyingJesus
30-06-2010, 01:40 PM
funny how this hasnt been reported anywhere else

That's because it's just a prediction rather than something that's actually going on lol

Joe how is having an empire racist

ifuseekamy
30-06-2010, 03:56 PM
Because that is immoral and racist, also you would come up against a lot of health and safety and other rules and regulations so we just wouldn't bother.
What why is it immoral and racist :S only if we enforced the health and safety rules

-:Undertaker:-
04-07-2010, 07:21 PM
funny how this hasnt been reported anywhere else

The BBC and co aren't that keen on criticising the European Union or reporting it at all, afterall the BBC is funded by the EU so its hardly suprising.

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