Manhunt for Moat

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The 2010 Northumbria Police manhunt is an ongoing major police operation in North East England in which armed police officers of the Northumbria Police force are attempting to apprehend Raoul Moat, a 37-year-old man from Newcastle upon Tyne, who is believed to have shot three people, killing one. Moat is still at large. The shootings and police raids were spread across the Northumbria Police area, which includes the Tyne and Wear metropolitan county and the rural county of Northumberland.

The manhunt began in the early hours of 3 July 2010 following an incident in in Birtley, Tyne and Wear. Moat, having been released from Durham Prison two days earlier, reportedly shot and wounded his ex-girlfriend Samantha Stobbart, while also fatally shooting her partner Chris Brown, with a shotgun. Nearly 22 hours later, a shooting of a traffic police officer David Rathband, in East Denton in Newcastle, also with a shotgun, was linked to Moat. After a sighting on the night of 5 July in an armed robbery in Seaton Delaval on the Northumberland coast, on 6 July it was announced Moat was believed to be in the village of Rothbury in central Northumberland. When the manhunt moved to Rothbury, it emerged Police had thought Moat had taken two men hostage in Birtley; these same two men were then arrested in Rothbury on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder.
As information about Moat emerged following the Birtley shootings, it became apparent he holds a grudge against the police. His ex-girlfriend had told him she had been in a relationship with a police officer but later stated this was not true and that she had told him that because she was frightened of him. Moat is believed to have posted threats to police and others on his Facebook profile shortly after being released, and made further detailed threats in two subsequent letters and several phone calls to police. Moat, a former bouncer and bodybuilder, was reported to be prone to bouts of anger due to steroid abuse, known as 'roid rage'.
The initial incidents and subsequent intelligence caused Northumbria Police to declare a major incident and deploy armed officers, dog units, and helicopters, as well as drafting in assistance from several other neighbouring police forces. The hunt sparked several possible sightings and false alarms across the region. The belief Moat was in Rothbury led to an exclusion zone to be set up around the village, with armed guards posted at local schools.
It emerged that Northumbria Police had been informed by Durham Prison on 2 July that Moat had intended to harm his girlfriend, and as a result the force voluntarily referred the case to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Moat

All over the news. It's all that Sky News are reporting at the moment. What a sick *******.

The letter especially.. very strange situation.

[Robbie]

cornered channel 501

[Accipiter]

He's been found with a gun to his head on a river bank now but the police still can't go close :l let him kill himself i say...

nothing bad to have layed on your mind if he does.

[Hitman]

He's been found with a gun to his head on a river bank now but the police still can't go close :l let him kill himself i say...

nothing bad to have layed on your mind if he does.
Wonder if he has any ammo left... could be an empty gun. They should just go behind him and shout "BOO" lol. Or go behind him and get some ninja to take him out!

[Hitman]

LOL tha hell Gazza is there LOL

[Mathew]

I've been following this on Sky News since Monday, it's been constantly covered all week. Just let him kill himself, or shoot him. He's killed one person and injured two so just get all this rubbish over with.

Of course, they'd much rather keep him alive by using our money in the NHS.. :rolleyes:

[Hitman]

I've been following this on Sky News since Monday, it's been constantly covered all week. Just let him kill himself, or shoot him. He's killed one person and injured two so just get all this rubbish over with.

Of course, they'd much rather keep him alive by using our money in the NHS.. :rolleyes:
And pay for his time in prison... or maybe he'll make a ****-and-bull story about being mental and they'll cart him off to a nice mental home where they have custard creams on the finest china!

[-:Undertaker:-]

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.

[Robbie]

fgs just shoot him, shoot to kill or at least just SHOOT TO DISABLE. The police firearms laws in this country are a joke. SHOOT. TO. DISABLE.

[AlexOC]

Agreed. Either shoot his shoulder or kneecaps, takes a what, 2 second window? for 10 officers to jump on him.

But ofcourse in this country, we are only allowed to shoot AFTER somebody gets hurt, not before, to prevent it.

[Hitman]

I want to go bed, hurry up and shoot the ******!

[xxMATTGxx]

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.

I think that was Sky News (biased news), no one else reported that. The BBC didn't at all, they have not been moved back by "10 miles". They have been moved back, but it isn't 10 miles.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think that was Sky News, no one else reported that. The BBC didn't at all, they have not been moved back by "10 miles". They have been moved back, but it isn't 10 miles.

I expect the news corporations were asked and then consulted solictors working for themselves on whether or not the police had that power, turned out that they did not have the power to push them back to a ten mile radius, although the distance they are at even now seems far too far away from the scene.

[xxMATTGxx]

I expect the news corporations were asked and then consulted solictors working for themselves on whether or not the police had that power, turned out that they did not have the power to push them back to a ten mile radius, although the distance they are at even now seems far too distant.

Undertaker GIVE IT A BREAK. They were not asked to, stop reading the crappy newspapers for once.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Undertaker GIVE IT A BREAK. They were not asked to, stop reading the crappy newspapers for once.

No you give it a break Matthew because you are talking absolute and utter rubbish i'm afraid - this has nothing to do with the Daily Mail or any other newspaper so dont try and play dirty by branding me with that brush again, grow up.

I heard it on Sky News as did you, not the bloody Daily Mail or any other newspaper. Yet again the likes of the Mail are brought into it - you heard Sky News report it and so did I.

[Hecktix]

Too far from the scene? You are absolutely outrageous lol, they are 400 yards away - the guy has a SHOTGUN....

AMGZ LETS LET THESE MEDIA PPLS GET RLY CLOSE AND GET SHOT.

[xxMATTGxx]

No you give it a break Matthew because you are talking absolute and utter rubbish i'm afraid - this has nothing to do with the Daily Mail or any other newspaper so dont try and play dirty by branding me with that brush again, grow up.

Ok, shall we say Sky News? Or whatever you have been watching. It wasn't reported or mentioned on BBC News since the major operation has been going on. Not only that, the media DO NOT have to be close to the action. They are safe where they are and the Police do not want the media to get in the way, there is good reasons for that. If you want to get close and have "top coverage" of it all, then fine but you are putting your life at risk. They are not "MILES" away at the moment, they are just fine.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Too far from the scene? You are absolutely outrageous lol, they are 400 yards away - the guy has a SHOTGUN....

AMGZ LETS LET THESE MEDIA PPLS GET RLY CLOSE AND GET SHOT.

*REMOVED*


Ok, shall we say Sky News? Or whatever you have been watching. It wasn't reported or mentioned on BBC News since the major operation has been going on. Not only that, the media DO NOT have to be close to the action. They are safe where they are and the Police do not want the media to get in the way, there is good reasons for that. If you want to get close and have "top coverage" of it all, then fine but you are putting your life at risk. They are not "MILES" away at the moment, they are just fine.

We have already established its Sky News, nice climbdown by yourself there. I never said it was reported by the BBC News did I? or did I? would you like to provide me even mentioning the BBC because guess what? I haven't mentioned the BBC regarding the 10 mile radius. The media on the other hand being asked to go back 10 miles is absolute madness, the media is here to inform and we are no police state. The media cannot jeapodise this operation because Mote does not have a paper or any other means of turning on Sky or BBC news, nor would he really care to.

Edited by Nixt (Assistant General Manager): Please do not attempt to cause arguments.

[Hitman]

I really cba watching it anymore, he's just gonna sit there all night... why did they give him food? He might have fainted if they hadn't, which would be been a great outcome...

[Tintinnabulate]

No you give it a break Matthew because you are talking absolute and utter rubbish i'm afraid - this has nothing to do with the Daily Mail or any other newspaper so dont try and play dirty by branding me with that brush again, grow up.

I heard it on Sky News as did you, not the bloody Daily Mail or any other newspaper. Yet again the likes of the Mail are brought into it - you heard Sky News report it and so did I.

Tell you what, why don't you walk right next to him with a camera? Its just a shotgun who cares, not like it will kill you hey?

[Dinosaurawrr]

why are you arguing.
stop arguing
b4 i wack u both ;l


AND id let him shoot himself.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Tell you what, why don't you walk right next to him with a camera? Its just a shotgun who cares, not like it will kill you hey?

Oh come on, does Mote have a shotgun thats capable of a range of 10 miles? really now.

[Hitman]

The only people in danger now are the police really, and Moat. If he turns the gun then they will either shoot or be prepared to shoot. Gun is on himself atm.

Oh and he stole ONE tomato LOL.

[Hecktix]

*REMOVED*


So I don't get a reply because I was right, surprise surprise.

[-:Undertaker:-]

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Yet wait, you only reply with that because I am right.

You mean like when you -repped me because I kept asking you to back up how UKIP were a racist party? I would also point out that its not correct conduct from the likes of you to question my position on Habbox which has nothing to do with my opinions. I work in my position because I worked for it, not because I should agree with you and your own views.

Do you think a 10 mile radius is sensible then?

[Hitman]

I was thinking, everyone is a hypocrite at some point and my thought has been backed up time and time again with the help of hxf. I have even been hypocritical to my brothers, shock horror.

I am tired and talking drivel but come on SOMETHING HAPPEN.

[xxMATTGxx]

Oh come on, does Mote have a shotgun thats capable of a range of 10 miles? really now.

Where does it say they are 10 miles right now? No where. They are NOT 10 miles away from the scene. Like I have expressed in my other posts the media do not have to be close to the actual scene at all. Yes they are their to inform the public of this country but that does not mean they should start getting "up close" and start "peaking in the bushes" or whatever.

This is not any old person, this is a person who is armed and has already killed and shot someone. He does not care if you are a Police officer or media. The Police have done the right thing to keep people away, 10 miles might be a bit OTT but they are NOT 10 miles away.

[Tintinnabulate]

Whats wrong with sending them 10 miles back? Does no bloody harm :S
They might have a reason they don't want to disclose.

[Hitman]

I beg your pardon? You will never win member of the month on this forum because you are incredibly rude to other members and your attitude is absolutely despicable, you shouldn't even have the position you have at Habbox with your disgusting attitude.

Yet wait, you only reply with that because I am right.
lol edited.

What do you reckon will happen?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Where does it say they are 10 miles right now? No where. They are NOT 10 miles away from the scene. Like I have expressed in my other posts the media do not have to be close to the actual scene at all. Yes they are their to inform the public of this country but that does mean they should start getting "up close" and start "peaking in the bushes" or whatever.

This is not any old person, this is a person who is armed and has already killed and shot someone. He does not care if you are a Police officer or media. The Police have done the right thing to keep people away, 10 miles might be a bit OTT but they are NOT 10 miles away.

I have not said they are at a 10 mile radius, all I did was to comment on the fact that it was reported that the media were requested to move back to a 10 mile radius which you have now taken out of context and then went onto the newspapers which has nothing to do with this.

[Hitman]

Whats wrong with sending them 10 miles back? Does no bloody harm :S
They might have a reason they don't want to disclose.
lol well 10 miles away they won't be able to see updates first hand, they'll have to wait for the police to tell them every few hours or so...

[Frodo13.]

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.

The 10 miles radius would be to protect the media I imagen. Media interference also had the potential to ruin this entire opperation.

[Special]

why don't they say shoot him in the shoulder or arm or arm just to put his attention off & so it gives them chance to arrest him

[Tintinnabulate]

I have not said they are at a 10 mile radius, all I did was to comment on the fact that it was reported that the media were requested to move back to a 10 mile radius which you have now taken out of context and then went onto the newspapers which has nothing to do with this.

Yes requested, not forced.

[Dinosaurawrr]

can you all like stop arguing if u wanna argue do it over msn you should be setting examples like.. ;s....

and i doubt there 10 miles away but media are spose to be prepared to risk there life. they always are.

[Hitman]

why don't they say shoot him in the shoulder or arm or arm just to put his attention off & so it gives them chance to arrest him
My guess is that the shock from the noise or pain may make him pull the trigger quickly... they should put sleeping drugs in his food - powerful ones that just knock him out.

[xxMATTGxx]

I have not said they are at a 10 mile radius, all I did was to comment on the fact that it was reported that the media were requested to move back to a 10 mile radius which you have now taken out of context and then went onto the newspapers which has nothing to do with this.


Oh come on, does Mote have a shotgun thats capable of a range of 10 miles? really now.

You keep going on about "10 miles". I mentioned newspapers because Sky News reminds me of the newspapers, they are not the greatest news channel.


My guess is that the shock from the noise or pain may make him pull the trigger quickly... they should put sleeping drugs in his food - powerful ones that just knock him out.

I think that might be why they won't taser him as well. Encase it actually makes him pull the trigger on the gun he has.

[Hitman]

You keep going on about "10 miles". I mentioned newspapers because Sky News reminds me of the newspapers, they are not the greatest news channel.
Unfortunately Sky seems to have a delay on their "live" channel... :( But I like everything else.

---------- Post added 10-07-2010 at 12:35 AM ----------

If Moat is still sitting there tomorrow morning I am gonna be pissed off, I've been watching since 7 o clock. MISSED ALL THE SOAPS. Hope he's happy now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes requested, not forced.

Who has said they were forced?


You keep going on about "10 miles". I mentioned newspapers because Sky News reminds me of the newspapers, they are not the greatest news channel.

I think that might be why they won't taser him as well. Encase it actually makes him pull the trigger on the gun he has.

Oh what a poor climbdown, it 'reminds you of the papers' well this is what i'm up against here. I am not debating news channels I am commenting on what Sky News reported that they were asked to move back 10 miles, I find that wrong and an abuse of power by the police - that post did not deserve the bashing you gave me which then went onto the newspapers and media biased.

Media bias is another topic and another day, this is about what was reported.

[Special]

My guess is that the shock from the noise or pain may make him pull the trigger quickly... they should put sleeping drugs in his food - powerful ones that just knock him out.

hmm i suppose & sleeping tablets are a good idea, but then again he might be prepared for it & know resulting in suicide

[xxMATTGxx]

Who has said they were forced?



Oh what a poor climbdown, it 'reminds you of the papers' well this is what i'm up against here. I am not debating news channels I am commenting on what Sky News reported that they were asked to move back 10 miles, I find that wrong and an abuse of power by the police - that post did not deserve the bashing you gave me which then went onto the newspapers and media biased.

Media bias is another topic and another day, this is about what was reported.

I doubt there is even a rule on how far the Police can move you back. If its the matter of public safety, then I don't see an issue of "10 miles". But hey, they probably didn't even ask.

[Hitman]

You keep going on about "10 miles". I mentioned newspapers because Sky News reminds me of the newspapers, they are not the greatest news channel.



I think that might be why they won't taser him as well. Encase it actually makes him pull the trigger on the gun he has.
Yeah that will be why. I suppose they could shoot his hand, but I doubt they are allowed to.

hmm i suppose & sleeping tablets are a good idea, but then again he might be prepared for it & know resulting in suicideHmm possibly, he had food already so he could have been suspicious already... pffft I'm going to bed now, stupid Moat. Bet he'll be here tomorrow morning still.

[Hecktix]

From the story the BBC have been telling the picture is like this:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8223982/moat.png

there is 1 set of beeb reporters on the street and one in the gardens of the houses the otherside.

Looks like 10 miles to me...

[-:Undertaker:-]

I doubt there is even a rule on how far the Police can move you back. If its the matter of public safety, then I don't see an issue of "10 miles". But hey, they probably didn't even ask.

I agree with public safety and what you have wrote here, but what I was getting at was the apparent suggestion by the police (which Sky News reported) that the media move back to a 10 mile radius was absolute madness considering he's cornered by hundreds of marksmen and the media are already at a good distance away from the crime. I'm not complaining about the media not being allowed feet away from him, but when theres safety on one hand and an OTT reaction on the other.

The same goes for protests around Westminister palace, I feel very strongly and always will do about civil liberties.

[Hitman]

Keep posting ladies and gentlemen, I am off to the land of nod. I hope they either hurry the **** up or I can keep watching tomorrow.

[Tintinnabulate]

I agree with public safety and what you have wrote here, but what I was getting at was the apparent suggestion by the police (which Sky News reported) that the media move back to a 10 mile radius was absolute madness considering he's cornered by hundreds of marksmen and the media are already at a good distance away from the crime. I'm not complaining about the media not being allowed feet away from him, but when theres safety on one hand and an OTT reaction on the other.

The same goes for protests around Westminister palace, I feel very strongly and always will do about civil liberties.

kk so they were wrong about the 10 miles thing, how do you propose to solve this then?

[Hecktix]

THERE IS NO 10 MILES THE BBC ARE AROUND 400 YARDS AWAY

[xxMATTGxx]

There is a restriction of 10 miles but not on the ground. Which does not affect the media on the ground.

[Tintinnabulate]

THERE IS NO 10 MILES THE BBC ARE AROUND 400 YARDS AWAY

lets just pretend there is, i want to know how he proposes to solve it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

kk so they were wrong about the 10 miles thing, how do you propose to solve this then?

Solve what? all I did was to comment on report by Sky News which said the police had requested the media move back to a 10 mile radius, a few minutes after they said that nothing happened and still hasnt happened as Oli has said below, so theres nothing to solve.

*HYPOTHETICAL* Had there been a 10 mile radius I would call it a big overreaction on the part of the Police forces.


THERE IS NO 10 MILES THE BBC ARE AROUND 400 YARDS AWAY

Nobody has said there is a 10 mile radius in operation.

[Hecktix]

Solve what? all I did was to comment on report by Sky News which said the police had requested the media move back to a 10 mile radius, a few minutes after they said that nothing happened and still hasnt happened as Oli has said below, so theres nothing to solve.

*HYPOTHETICAL* Had there been a 10 mile radius I would call it a big overreaction on the part of the Police forces.



Nobody has said there is a 10 mile radius in operation.

You said they tried to impose it, they didn't - what they have done is imposed a 10 mile exclusion zone above the town for aircraft - to avoid media aircraft flying over. Which is fair enough, i'd rather a helicopter wasn't shot at.

[xxMATTGxx]

You said they tried to impose it, they didn't - what they have done is imposed a 10 mile exclusion zone above the town for aircraft - to avoid media aircraft flying over. Which is fair enough, i'd rather a helicopter wasn't shot at.

It also annoys the people who live there. They already had to deal with the Police Helicopter for four hours and more and also an RAF Tornado. So I do agree with that.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You said they tried to impose it, they didn't - what they have done is imposed a 10 mile exclusion zone above the town for aircraft - to avoid media aircraft flying over. Which is fair enough, i'd rather a helicopter wasn't shot at.

I did not say they tried to impose it, had the police imposed it, they would have imposed it full stop. I reported what Sky News reported earlier on in the day which was that the police had requested/wanted a 10 mile radius around the area - I then gave my opinion on that assuming that was the case that the Police had asked them to move back, like Sky News had reported.

So no, I did not say the Police had tried to impose anything.

Totally got the wrong end of the stick here.

[Hecktix]

I did not say they tried to impose it, had the police imposed it, they would have imposed it full stop. I reported what Sky News reported earlier on in the day which was that the police had requested/wanted a 10 mile radius around the area - I then gave my opinion on that assuming that was the case that the Police had asked them to move back, like Sky News had reported.

So no, I did not say the Police had tried to impose anything.

Totally got the wrong end of the stick here.

Well you clearly based your opinions on false media (where have I seen that before..)..

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well you clearly based your opinions on false media (where have I seen that before..)..

Another newspaper reference, yet again.

To add to that, who knows if it is false media? the Police could very well of requested the media to move back past a 10 mile radius and then gone back on it/the media groups may have consulted solicitors working for them to see if that was viable and it turns out it wasnt (as you have pointed out and as I have seen all night with my eyes whilst watching both Sky and BBC news who have remained in the same position all night).

I believe biased media has nothing or little to do with this topic anyway, so please dont drag the thread off-topic onto what is biased and what is not.

[Tintinnabulate]

So no, I did not say the Police had tried to impose anything.


Yeah you did.

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.
*REMOVED*

Anyway both you of ... well all three of you, stop arguing, you are managers - especially what you said to him Oli before you removed it - well at least you removed it I guess.
*REMOVED* You love moaning about whatever you can. You moaned that there wasn't enough cuts in the budget, then you moaned that they shouldn't have made cuts as £5bn doesn't matter. To me, its clear contradiction. Either you say there needs to be more cuts or you don't moan about the cuts they do saying they shouldn't have done it as £5bn doesn't affect anything. *REMOVED* and seem to just repeat what the Daily Mail says. I worry if the Daily Mail ever shuts down, you might commit suicide as you won't be able to fake your own opinions.

Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

[Hecktix]

Why would the police even bother suggesting a 10 mile radius? It'd be impossible to enforce, Sky News clearly got it mixed up - it's the air radius that they wanted and if you think about it a 10 mile air radius makes a lot of sense.

Looking at the town on google maps a ten mile radius would pretty much mean that they'd be out of the town.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah you did

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.

See ^

Anyway both you of ... well all three of you, stop arguing, you are managers.

'I heard' being the important part. I never said the Police enforced or imposed anything, they merely suggested it according to Sky News earlier on in the night at the start of the siege.


Why would the police even bother suggesting a 10 mile radius? It'd be impossible to enforce, Sky News clearly got it mixed up - it's the air radius that they wanted and if you think about it a 10 mile air radius makes a lot of sense.

Looking at the town on google maps a ten mile radius would pretty much mean that they'd be out of the town.

Thank you, thats why I said it would be stupid and wrong to impose a 10-mile exclusion zone because it would be too big and would be an overreaction. It turns out that afterall we agree.

[Tintinnabulate]

Yeah you did.

I heard the police wanted the media away from a ten mile radius - how disgraceful in a so called democracy. I find that very wrong indeed, but as usual if you give something or somebody power then they will use it even if it need not be used at all.

*REMOVED*

Anyway both you of ... well all three of you, stop arguing, you are managers - especially what you said to him Oli before you removed it - well at least you removed it I guess.

* REMOVED*You love moaning about whatever you can. You moaned that there wasn't enough cuts in the budget, then you moaned that they shouldn't have made cuts as £5bn doesn't matter. To me, its clear contradiction. Either you say there needs to be more cuts or you don't moan about the cuts they do saying they shouldn't have done it as £5bn doesn't affect anything.*REMOVED* and seem to just repeat what the Daily Mail says. I worry if the Daily Mail ever shuts down, you might commit suicide as you won't be able to fake your own opinions.

I edited my previous post for anyone who is interested.

[Hecktix]

I just don't see the point in the discussion if it was just over Sky News getting confused about air & ground.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Undertaker, seriously, you are a pathetic person. You moan moan moan. You love moaning about whatever you can. You moaned that there wasn't enough cuts in the budget, then you moaned that they shouldn't have made cuts as £5bn doesn't matter. To me, its clear contradiction. Either you say there needs to be more cuts or you don't moan about the cuts they do saying they shouldn't have done it as £5bn doesn't affect anything. You are pathetic and seem to just repeat what the Daily Mail says. I worry if the Daily Mail ever shuts down, you might commit suicide as you won't be able to fake your own opinions.

Gone off on one yet again Saurav and havent even bothered responding to that fact I never said the Police were imposing this, you all assumed it. On the cuts (being dragged off topic yet again) I havent complained about any cuts.

I was told you were over the age of 18 yet you have just posted saying I would commit suicide if the Mail closed down (a bad joke on your part?) - hardly even worth a response and only brings into question your age to my mind.

We can discuss cuts (I gladly would like to, it hasnt been discussed properly yet on here) back in the original thread and I am awaiting a response there at the moment, heres the link; http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=654289&page=2


I just don't see the point in the discussion if it was just over Sky News getting confused about air & ground.

Neither did I and it was taken grossly out of context.

[Tintinnabulate]

Surprised the Police cannot shoot to disarm.

[Misawa]

Seeing as I'm in the media, I thought I'd drop in. It's no secret that we get in the way. Well, not me since I'm a film and TV journalist, but news reporters are notorious when they're up close to the action and it's a very wise decision. This guy has a gun and is surrounded by about 50 guns. It's logic and after such a manhunt, it makes perfect sense for the police to handle this alone, without distractions. The media can pick up the pieces when he's dead.

[Tintinnabulate]

Gone off on one yet again Saurav and havent even bothered responding to that fact I never said the Police were imposing this, you all assumed it. On the cuts (being dragged off topic yet again) I havent complained about any cuts.

I was told you were over the age of 18 yet you have just posted saying I would commit suicide if the Mail closed down (a bad joke on your part?) - hardly even worth a response.

I went off topic as you didnt reply to it in the previous thread (in regards to the £5bn) ... just used it as an example. No you said you heard the police wanted it ... kinda similar. Stop trying to make lame excuses now.

Yeah well you were generalising all university students saying all they do is get drunk and not save up and stuff - exactly what the Mail had said until me and Catzsy proved you wrong - so yeah you don't ever form your own opinions, the Mail does it for you.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I went off topic as you didnt reply to it in the previous thread (in regards to the £5bn) ... just used it as an example. No you said you heard the police wanted it ... kinda similar. Stop trying to make lame excuses now.

Yeah well you were generalising all university students saying all they do is get drunk and not save up and stuff - exactly what the Mail had said until me and Catzsy proved you wrong - so yeah you don't ever form your own opinions, the Mail does it for you.

I did reply yesterday at 6:15 pm, I am awaiting your own reply.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=654289&page=2

I did hear the Police said they wanted a 10 mile exclusion zone, MattGarner himself heard it on Sky News earlier on and has already commented on it. Not an excuse, both me and Matt heard it live on Sky News.

[Misawa]

On topic: Shot heard.

[xxMATTGxx]

Unconfirmed shot has been heard. Although nothing is confirmed and someone who was on the phone to the BBC at the time has mentioned they have not heard or seen any movement changes. But we shall see!

[Geraint]

Ohhh drama. Just about to go to bed too.

[Tintinnabulate]

They believe Moat has shot himself.

Ambulance went.
Stretcher has been lowered.

[xxMATTGxx]

It seems he may of shot himself. Although we won't know yet. :(

[kk.]

ffs I wanna go sleep!!

[Meanies]

bbc says it was 2 shots

& an ambulance just left with police escort

[Jayke]

Tango tango we have a shot fired.

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Susan says hes shot himself and police jumped on him.

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Heading south with 2 police cars, confirmed sky news he has shot himself.

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Police confirmed a shot has been fired on the suspected moat, I bet he will survive.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am still amazed he walked into the town centre in broad daylight did he not? I always had the impression the guy was pretty intelligent and knew his stuff from being a hardend criminal. He has killed somebody though and I do believe in the death penalty, hopefully he will not walk out of this alive.

[Hecktix]

he has been shot - nothing to say who by

[Meanies]

yeh he got shot by himself/police

[kk.]

I am still amazed he walked into the town centre in broad daylight did he not? I always had the impression the guy was pretty intelligent and knew his stuff from being a hardend criminal. He has killed somebody though and I do believe in the death penalty, hopefully he will not walk out of this alive.

That the thing tho, no one would suspect he would do that.

[Axel]

Northumbria Police: Raoul Mout has a gunshot wound and is receiving treatment. No officers have been injured

From Sky.

I was betting on the fact he'd get captured, but at least shoot one officer. My predictions fail. :<

[xxMATTGxx]

He is currently receiving treatment.


I am still amazed he walked into the town centre in broad daylight did he not? I always had the impression the guy was pretty intelligent and knew his stuff from being a hardend criminal. He has killed somebody though and I do believe in the death penalty, hopefully he will not walk out of this alive.

No one was fully aware of what he was going to do. We know that he declared war on that Police force and he was also a threat to the wider public. Although, the Police always thought he was still in the area and they were correct.

[Jayke]

God, he looks like a normal person. I bet when he knew he was captured he was thinking what the **** have I done.

:/

[Geraint]

worlds worst news conference. told us what we knew in exactly the same words.

[Misawa]

How could he shoot an officer? A shotgun has terrible range and they're all at a safe distance.

[Tintinnabulate]

bump to see Misawa's post.

[Axel]

How could he shoot an officer? A shotgun has terrible range and they're all at a safe distance.

Police would try and suprise jump him then bam.

Sorry that I don't think about everything completely logically every second of every day, it's called being boring.

[Rapidshare]

Police musta have shot him...

Otherwise his face would have been blown tbh

[Jayke]

I haz his facebooks.

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Police musta have shot him...

Otherwise his face would have been blown tbh

I was thinking this, he would of been dead if he shot himself, I think police shot him in the leg then jumped on him hence the shouting.

[Meanies]

I haz his facebooks.

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I was thinking this, he would of been dead if he shot himself, I think police shot him in the leg then jumped on him hence the shouting.

do people think the shouting was 'get the dog away' or 'get the gun away'

[xxMATTGxx]

do people think the shouting was 'get the dog away' or 'get the gun away'

I thought it was gun to be honest.

[Meanies]

I thought it was gun to be honest.

idunno, both times i heard it i thought it was dog more than gun and there was a dog barking, but the woman on bbc thought it was 'put that gun away', how can he do that if he's just been shot:S

[Jayke]

"Get the gun away", my guess is the police saying it to Moats gun as it was probably loaded and they didnt want it to go off. I also think the police shot him in the leg and maybe dived on him, this seems the most logical as if he shot himself there would off been nothing to take to the hospital.

[Meanies]

"Get the gun away", my guess is the police saying it to Moats gun as it was probably loaded and they didnt want it to go off. I also think the police shot him in the leg and maybe dived on him, this seems the most logical as if he shot himself there would off been nothing to take to the hospital.

possible, but it could also have been getting the dog away so it didn't attack police officers going to him. I'M STICK BY MY STORY!!

[Jayke]

possible, but it could also have been getting the dog away so it didn't attack police officers going to him. I'M STICK BY MY STORY!!

It could be anything at this time, you never know it might not even be moat?

[Rapidshare]

Either way, surprised police shot him first.

[xxMATTGxx]

I can hear "gun" instead of "dog". I can hear the "un" bit. :P

[Jayke]

Im 100% sure he says;

"Get the gun away" - "Geyyyt the gun awaiiiii"

[xxMATTGxx]

Northumbria Police say Moat shot himself and no shots were fired by police.

[Robbie]

Sky say he's dead

[HotelUser]

It looks as if this person needed a little more attention when he was in prison (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=653730).

[Misawa]

Shot himself and was already dead when you were arguing. Surprised he didn't die instantly from a point-blank shotgun shell to the face. It would have been messy, rarely a clean wound like in Kurt Cobain's instance.

[xxMATTGxx]

A spokesman said 37-year-old Moat shot himself. He was later pronounced dead in hospital at 0220 BST on Saturday. Well at least it's now all over.

[Sarah]

Oh at least people can go back to living normally..

[Hitman]

I went to bed just before he shot himself! Pfftt! Oh well, good ending I suppose, at least the taxpayer wont have to pay for him in prison and nobody else got hurt.

[Robbie]

I went to bed just before he shot himself! Pfftt! Oh well, good ending I suppose, at least the taxpayer wont have to pay for him in prison and nobody else got hurt.

Gotta pay for a useless ipcc investigation.

[Hitman]

Gotta pay for a useless ipcc investigation.
Yeah just saw that... why the hell? The police did a good job, no additional people hurt or dead, no shots fired by police... pfft.

[Mathew]

About time. If only he did that days ago.. :rolleyes:

[Hitman]

About that exclusion zone or whatever...


Police imposed a 10-mile (16km) exclusion zone around the town and armed officers from forces across the country were brought in to assist in the search.

- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10583839.stm

Bottom of the page... remember seeing people arguing.

[Jayke]

Im so glad I stayed up and watched it. It was so interested, shame it ended as it did.

RIP Moat.

[xxMATTGxx]

About that exclusion zone or whatever...



- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10583839.stm

Bottom of the page... remember seeing people arguing.

But the media was not told or pushed back 10 miles which was what people was debating about. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Reports are coming in about the following: "It has emerged police fired a taser at Moat before he shot himself"

[Rapidshare]

Reports are coming in about the following: "It has emerged police fired a taser at Moat before he shot himself"


That didnt work for sure then...

[xxMATTGxx]

That didnt work for sure then...

Well nothing seems to be confirmed on the website. Although I've been told in a conference they said it was after and sky news have on their site that it did not lead to his death. So yeah!

[Misawa]

Who cares? He's dead. And like the snows of yesteryear, gone from this earth.

[Hitman]

Who cares? He's dead. And like the snows of yesteryear, gone from this earth.
Yeah the world will continue, not many people will miss him; more will be glad he has gone. Sounds sad and dire, but it's the truth... the world will continue when you and I die, the world will not stop.

[xxMATTGxx]

Who cares? He's dead. And like the snows of yesteryear, gone from this earth.

I don't really care but I have an interest. So does a lot of other people, that's why they watch the news and keep updated and tweet about this whole thing. Example: Famous person has died, you might not actually "care" but you will read something about it. People will read it because they are interested in that story etc.

[Misawa]

Yes, the whole hunt was of interest, but he's dead now, and it'll drift from the news because the story has lost its sensationalism. Tomorrow the UK will be saying "Raoul who?" because it's the World Cup final. Most people have already forgotten the name of the shotgun maniac from last month, or May, or whenever it was. Like me. It was only ever going to end with him in the morgue.

[xxMATTGxx]

Yes, the whole hunt was of interest, but he's dead now, and it'll drift from the news because the story has lost its sensationalism. Tomorrow the UK will be saying "Raoul who?" because it's the World Cup final. Most people have already forgotten the name of the shotgun maniac from last month, or May, or whenever it was. Like me. It was only ever going to end with him in the morgue.

Doesn't mean people won't be interested still. I know for a fact some people would want to know why the Police used tasers near the end either way, yes it will be out of the media soon but I'm just saying it's still in "interest" at the moment. Oh and not everyone is a fan of football or the world cup. ;)

[Misawa]

Well, I agree on the latter.