Time to stop this..

[AgnesIO]

Just out of interest why does Habbox still allow the ridiculous, no discussion threads in Discuss Anything?

I mean one was made earlier today (albeit to prove how silly it is getting), to ask people how many RADIATORS people have in their house?

I would like to point out that is probably more worthy of being called spam than the actual spam forum? A sub forum should be made with NO post count for these threads. I bet no one would post them anymore :rolleyes:

[buttons]

that was a piss-take on exactly what you're talking about and if you haven't noticed those threads are popular regardless the question. some DO get moved to spam but the rest are doing no harm, take them out and what will be left to be posted in that section? it'll just die, there's nothing specific you're MEANT to talk about there. spam and discuss anything are different because of post count, they'll get moved there if it's just people posting one reply after another. normally you get one reply each in a discuss anything thread because they know they'll be told off for spamming so doubt it's anything to do with post count..
anyway yeah they're fine, report them if you think they belong in spam (where they won't be replied to or taken seriously, at least in discuss anything a lot of the forum get involved)

[AgnesIO]

that was a piss-take on exactly what you're talking about and if you haven't noticed those threads are popular regardless the question. some DO get moved to spam but the rest are doing no harm, take them out and what will be left to be posted in that section? it'll just die, there's nothing specific you're MEANT to talk about there. spam and discuss anything are different because of post count, they'll get moved there if it's just people posting one reply after another. normally you get one reply each in a discuss anything thread because they know they'll be told off for spamming so doubt it's anything to do with post count..
anyway yeah they're fine, report them if you think they belong in spam (where they won't be replied to or taken seriously, at least in discuss anything a lot of the forum get involved)


Popular for post count with most members - isn't there a rule saying you can't post if it doesn't help discussion or something lol

Discuss anything always used to have some good threads in there. Most of the 'Do you'/'How many' used to be by Jake who did it for discussion (and knowing Jake post count xD), but then people copied and it's slightly pointless now?

I just don't personally thinking posting 'yeh i live in a £2 billion home' (I know that is exaggerated, although most people seemed to be bill gates in that thread)

Just my opinion but you know.

[Hecktix]

that was a piss-take on exactly what you're talking about and if you haven't noticed those threads are popular regardless the question. some DO get moved to spam but the rest are doing no harm, take them out and what will be left to be posted in that section? it'll just die, there's nothing specific you're MEANT to talk about there. spam and discuss anything are different because of post count, they'll get moved there if it's just people posting one reply after another. normally you get one reply each in a discuss anything thread because they know they'll be told off for spamming so doubt it's anything to do with post count..
anyway yeah they're fine, report them if you think they belong in spam (where they won't be replied to or taken seriously, at least in discuss anything a lot of the forum get involved)

Jen, you're gonna do me out of a job here.

What buttons has said is true really, Discuss Anything is a very broad topic and a lot of the topics in there are reasonably interesting to read through, the radiators thread was left because the thread actually recieved a positive response - proving to W00TZEH who made the thread to take the piss that these threads can generate discussion. A while ago people were moaning that discuss anything was too quiet, I guess there really is no pleasing some people.

[AgnesIO]

Jen, you're gonna do me out of a job here.

What buttons has said is true really, Discuss Anything is a very broad topic and a lot of the topics in there are reasonably interesting to read through, the radiators thread was left because the thread actually recieved a positive response - proving to W00TZEH who made the thread to take the piss that these threads can generate discussion. A while ago people were moaning that discuss anything was too quiet, I guess there really is no pleasing some people.

To be fair Oli I have never moaned about Discuss Anything being too quiet. If other's thinks it's fine then I won't moan, although I do think what used to be an interesting section has been ruined.

Although I have just gone through the thread, and there's about 3 posts out of 50 odd which are 'on-topic' discussion. The others could all easily be off topic posts lol

Anyway clearly some people don't agree that 'six in my house' is a crap discussion, oh well will just stay out of that forum I guess :D

[Hecktix]

Do you mind asking who you are?

If you have any issues with any posts then click the report post button, although I have had moderators watching that thread and scanned through it myself and there are no problems with it.

[AgnesIO]

Do you mind asking who you are?

If you have any issues with any posts then click the report post button, although I have had moderators watching that thread and scanned through it myself and there are no problems with it.

I don't have time to report every post that offers no discussion (since in my opinion that would be every thread haha). But for who I am, just remember our little conversation not long ago Oli. I asked you to unban one of my previous account's too, but I forgot the password and email :L

EDIT: Sorry the first sentence in my post looks quite forceful, I didn't mean for it to look that angry :P

[Hecktix]

I don't have time to report every post that offers no discussion (since in my opinion that would be every thread haha). But for who I am, just remember our little conversation not long ago Oli. I asked you to unban one of my previous account's too, but I forgot the password and email :L

EDIT: Sorry the first sentence in my post looks quite forceful, I didn't mean for it to look that angry :P

I don't remember every single person I speak to, a name would be nice. None of the other threads are reported for being too spam like and if they are they get moved to spam instantly by one of my moderators.

[AgnesIO]

I don't remember every single person I speak to, a name would be nice. None of the other threads are reported for being too spam like and if they are they get moved to spam instantly by one of my moderators.

Calm down Oli - no need to get rude at me :D

[Hecktix]

Calm down Oli - no need to get rude at me :D

My post is not rude :S

[AgnesIO]

My post is not rude :S

"I don't remember every single person I speak to, a name would be nice"

Not sure rude as he right word to be honest, more of erm unhappy? Probably just how I read it though :L

[Hecktix]

Well no rudeness was intended :) Whoever you are, thanks for the feedback - whilst each persons opinion is respected I don't think the threads are too much of a hassle, as buttons said if they werent there, there'd be no threads at all for now and some of them are interesting insightful topics, it's the ones that just target 1 word answers which will be cracked down upon soon.

[Tintinnabulate]

A while back, there was a similar thread to what I am about to say. I think it was decided that the threads were not going to be allowed and instead be moved to Forum Games, but I don't think it ever took effect - maybe I am wrong and it wasn't decided - but I think it was.

Anywayyyyy, Discuss Anything was known for interesting threads and discussions. Now its filled with one word answer threads which are just useless and as there are so many now, it means other people post more, thus the forum is filled with them

The following are from the first page of Discuss Anything:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656219
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656217
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655946
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655795
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655562

These threads are just useless and I can make 100's of silly ones like these. The forum should be for proper and not crap like that.

Edited by Mr-Trainor (Forum Super Moderator): Merged in to previous thread as they both have discussion about the same topic.

[jackass]

I agree with this, but at the same time, where do you draw the line?

As you said, there are 100s of threads that could be made, but some are quite interesting and CAN provoke discussion, so it would seem wrong to just shove them into spam.

[Hecktix]

In my opinion, these threads aren't really too bad - they provide a discussion to some extent and they fit into discuss anything perfectly, Discuss Anything hasn't been what it was for a couple of years now and that's probably because there are so many areas of the forum which can accommodate the more worthwhile posts, these posts aren't exactly spam - some of them are interesting, the what colour is your bedroom one for instance, I like it as the colour of someones bedroom can say a lot about them, some people don't reply with one word answers which is good.

I think it may be better to introduce a constructive posting rule for discuss anything (or even forum wide) to state that you cannot simply post a one word answer to a thread, this would thus eradicate any threads which can only be answered by one word - perhaps such as the radiator thread, although it will make threads such as "what colour is your room" better, as you would get more substantial responses.

I shall wait and see what other people think, although I think this would be a positive line to take.

[W00TZEH]

ITS A USEFUL WAY OF COLLECTING DATA.

[Geraint]

Jake used to make 10 a day.

[Blinger$]

pointless moaning tbh. not targetting anyone but why does it matter?

[Richie]

its pointless simple as, people abuse it.

[AgnesIO]

its pointless simple as, people abuse it.

Totally agreed.

To some extent these threads are ok but it is a joke now..

If the orum serves no useful purpose, you always go on about 'needing the cut the forum down' - here's a place to start

[Tintinnabulate]

pointless moaning tbh. not targetting anyone but why does it matter?

Did you not read my first post :rolleyes: it clearly explained why it matters.

---------- Post added 15-07-2010 at 08:58 AM ----------

Also I apologise but I just realised someone else posted it a few hours before me. I talked about it with the FM earlier in the day and posted to see what others think.

The other thread can be found here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656197

I will request a moderator to lock this.

[Tintinnabulate]

HabboxForum was known for it's quality of threads but now it seems the current management are only concerned with quantity.

To me it looks like Discuss Anything is Spam #2 as by the looks of this thread, it suggests that what is posted in Spam (well a lot of it) can be posted in Discuss Anything.

[Hecktix]

As mentioned in my previous post I feel that it would be more beneficial to put a stop to one word replies rather than these kind of threads, by putting a stop to one word replies it should ensure that most of these topics get substantial repiles which I believe some of them are capable of, it will also eradicate the need for the more stupid pisstake ones which can only really be responded with a one word answer.

[Tintinnabulate]

As mentioned in my previous post I feel that it would be more beneficial to put a stop to one word replies rather than these kind of threads, by putting a stop to one word replies it should ensure that most of these topics get substantial repiles which I believe some of them are capable of, it will also eradicate the need for the more stupid pisstake ones which can only really be responded with a one word answer.

Would you allow "What colour is your bedroom wall?"

You said it suggests the persons personality (or something like that) but a lot of people never repaint their rooms and leave it the way it has been. Its also a one word thread.

[Hecktix]

Would you allow "What colour is your bedroom wall?"

You said it suggests the persons personality (or something like that) but a lot of people never repaint their rooms and leave it the way it has been. Its also a one word thread.

I don't personally have a problem with a thread like that, some people do repaint, some don't. With that thread most replies (such as the one by yourself may I add) are more than one word, I would rather tackle people using one word to reply when it takes no longer to add something else, "what colour is your bedroom" could still be there with an extended constructive posting rule in place, however other threads such as 'how many radiators are in your house' probably wouldn't.

[Tintinnabulate]

I don't personally have a problem with a thread like that, some people do repaint, some don't. With that thread most replies (such as the one by yourself may I add) are more than one word, I would rather tackle people using one word to reply when it takes no longer to add something else, "what colour is your bedroom" could still be there with an extended constructive posting rule in place, however other threads such as 'how many radiators are in your house' probably wouldn't.

The only reason mine was more than one word is the wall is more than one colour :P
But yeah, the quicker you can make a rule on whats allowed and what isn't, it would be good as "Which hand do you write with?" is useless.

[Catzsy]

I have to agree. These are not constructive threads at all and how on earth can members be expected to reply constructively to weak threads like these because they attract one or two word answers. Wootzeh was making a point and I think we all know they are more suitable for spam and not long ago they clogged up the new posts for quite awhile. It is just posting for post count - nothing more, nothing less. Its not all about stats and how many threads are posted. Habbox has always been known for quality threads and quite honestly the members who do post quality threads will be put off by what is basically spamming. Bad decision I feel to let them happen in the first place. It set a bad precedent which others have followed. If you had a quick Q&A forum where the post count was disabled they would disappear in a flash.

[FlyingJesus]

As I said when this last came up and as is still the case, these threads do not generate discussion. Having a lot of replies is not discussion, it basically amounts to a poll with a post count.

http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656217 2 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656219 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655946 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655795 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655562 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655913 1 person with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=650549 4 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655797 no-one with more than 1 post

These threads have lots of answers but cannot be called discussion because nobody is discussing anything, it's just an answer per person then leave for the most part. Discuss Anything is literally spam with post count enabled, considering anything with an actual topic can be housed elsewhere.

[Grig]

Yeh, it's annoying when people get their posts up by one worded answers. Imo, should be made a guideline for that forum that it has to be more than one rule and constructive. Most of these post bore me for the fact that the answers are not insightful, that's why I'm not a regular posted within that section and such.

[W00TZEH]

the radiators thread was left because the thread actually recieved a positive response - proving to W00TZEH who made the thread to take the piss that these threads can generate discussion.
WHAT? I POSTED IT EXPECTING PEOPLE TO REPLY OBVIOUSLY? :S ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T GO AS FAR AS SAYING IT CREATED 'DISCUSSION'.#

AND FYI, I MADE THE THREAD CAUSE I SAW 'DO YOU HAVE BLINDS OR CURTAINS' AND I WAS ALL LIKE ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH -.- -.- -.-

*REMOVED*

Edited by Mr-Trainor (Forum Super Moderator): please do not be rude towards other members.

[Catzsy]

Yeh, it's annoying when people get their posts up by one worded answers. Imo, should be made a guideline for that forum that it has to be more than one rule and constructive. Most of these post bore me for the fact that the answers are not insightful, that's why I'm not a regular posted within that section and such.

Well Grig what do you expect when the thread isn't of any substance? :P

[Tintinnabulate]

WHAT? I POSTED IT EXPECTING PEOPLE TO REPLY OBVIOUSLY? :S ALTHOUGH I WOULDN'T GO AS FAR AS SAYING IT CREATED 'DISCUSSION'.#

AND FYI, I MADE THE THREAD CAUSE I SAW 'DO YOU HAVE BLINDS OR CURTAINS' AND I WAS ALL LIKE ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH -.- -.- -.-

*REMOVED*

I complained too ... just that my thread was merged. And why does it matter if the user only has 23 posts :S

[W00TZEH]

I complained too ... just that my thread was merged. And why does it matter if the user only has 23 posts :S
THANKS FOR TELLIN ME THAT MATE, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE.

[AgnesIO]

The pure ignorance of some users. FYI I previously had thousands of posts. I also think the fact you are saying I can't post feedback because I am 'new/returned' is pathetic.

I am lad after this thread has progressed though I am not the only one to not like this. I would like to ask you this thought Oli, what threads actually make a decent discussion? Give me 5 out of the billion previously posted. They are useless threads.

Also I 100% agree with Catzy, make section in the forum for these stupid threads AND turn off post count. Before long NOBODY would use them.

[GommeInc]

They're hardly spam, some are quite informative. If anything you're pointing out when it crosses the line and becomes pointless to discuss these things. It'll die down, no point changing forums or making new ones for a phase :P

[Hecktix]

The pure ignorance of some users. FYI I previously had thousands of posts. I also think the fact you are saying I can't post feedback because I am 'new/returned' is pathetic.

I am lad after this thread has progressed though I am not the only one to not like this. I would like to ask you this thought Oli, what threads actually make a decent discussion? Give me 5 out of the billion previously posted. They are useless threads.

Also I 100% agree with Catzy, make section in the forum for these stupid threads AND turn off post count. Before long NOBODY would use them.

Some of them are quite interesting about people (such as the what colour is your bedroom one) however I feel that if we enforce a rule which would mean a substantial reply then such threads would cease to exist, rather than banning the threads change the rules for posting protocol, banning short one worded answers (which aren't worthy of a postcount anyway) and closing any thread which can only be responded to by a one or two word answer.

I agree with Gomme, these threads aren't spam and some are quite informative - there just needs to be more strict guidelines on how to reply to them.

[AgnesIO]

Some of them are quite interesting about people (such as the what colour is your bedroom one) however I feel that if we enforce a rule which would mean a substantial reply then such threads would cease to exist, rather than banning the threads change the rules for posting protocol, banning short one worded answers (which aren't worthy of a postcount anyway) and closing any thread which can only be responded to by a one or two word answer.

I agree with Gomme, these threads aren't spam and some are quite informative - there just needs to be more strict guidelines on how to reply to them.

I would be happy if a rule change was made, although I can personally see a lot of people saying things like 'I have 10 windows in my house. Windows are nice they let in light' - that extra sentence was simply be added just to get around the rule :P

Of course new rules could be tried, but I still think if a section was made for them with NO post count, people would gradually not other posting!

[Catzsy]

They're hardly spam, some are quite informative. If anything you're pointing out when it crosses the line and becomes pointless to discuss these things. It'll die down, no point changing forums or making new ones for a phase :P

Any examples, Gomme?

[GommeInc]

Of course new rules could be tried, but I still think if a section was made for them with NO post count, people would gradually not other posting!
That would be a waste of time for the management. It'll die down, this forum is a master at phases, this is just one of those thread phases that'll fizzle out in time and it'll return to the more informative threads what ask for more detailed information. If anything, the moderator(s) in the Discuss Anything forum could just move them to spam.


Any examples, Gomme?
Any ones that are statistical or say anything about the member. Bedroom colour for example, and the number of televisions in the house. Radiators is kinda pointless because every house should have a radiator in every major room - it would be easier just to say how many rooms there are in the house and work out the number of radiators from there if it's ofthat much interest :P

[Catzsy]

That would be a waste of time for the management. It'll die down, this forum is a master at phases, this is just one of those thread phases that'll fizzle out in time and it'll return to the more informative threads what ask for more detailed information. If anything, the moderator(s) in the Discuss Anything forum could just move them to spam.


Any ones that are statistical or say anything about the member. Bedroom colour for example, and the number of televisions in the house. Radiators is kinda pointless because every house should have a radiator in every major room - it would be easier just to say how many rooms there are in the house and work out the number of radiators from there if it's ofthat much interest :P

I don't think so, really tbh. Dan's one about windows is fine as he actually asks about the age and charactor of the house which attracts constructive answers. The others just attract one word answers so not really constructive.

[The Don]

I always try my best to provide interesting topics in that forum, but they always get swarmed away by the hordes of threads like the ones saurav posted. Heres a few I posted recently:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655308
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=654449 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=654449&highlight)
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=653013 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=653013)
I think it's hard to come up with new disscusions in that forum as everything else has been covered as Oli said. I don't think you should get rid of these threads as they do sometimes add interesting topics, but come on, how many radiators do you have. That's just stupid.

Ahh sorry, posted it wrong. I Didnt mean saurav posts loads of threads, I meant the ones he posted in this thread as examples

[-:Undertaker:-]

If you do not like the topic then do not post in it, the one I made I tried to make more interesting with two subjects in one. Are we going to ban favourite food/drink threads aswell as they are one word reply threads? are we going to ban what sexuality are you threads because they are one word replys? the list is endless.


A while back, there was a similar thread to what I am about to say. I think it was decided that the threads were not going to be allowed and instead be moved to Forum Games, but I don't think it ever took effect - maybe I am wrong and it wasn't decided - but I think it was.

Anywayyyyy, Discuss Anything was known for interesting threads and discussions. Now its filled with one word answer threads which are just useless and as there are so many now, it means other people post more, thus the forum is filled with them

The following are from the first page of Discuss Anything:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656219
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656217
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655946
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655795
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655562

These threads are just useless and I can make 100's of silly ones like these. The forum should be for proper and not crap like that.

You yourself posted in the bottom three threads you linked us to.

[The Don]

If you do not like the topic then do not post in it, the one I made I tried to make more interesting with two subjects in one. Are we going to ban favourite food/drink threads aswell as they are one word reply threads? are we going to ban what sexuality are you threads because they are one word replys? the list is endless.



You yourself posted in the bottom three threads you linked us to.

No one was on about the thread you made, you added to it, and made it more interesting. I was on about the first one, which is just a one word answer, I'm sure everyone else were on about that aswell. However, the topics in there are quite boring now, there are becoming less threads which you can have discusions in.

Edit- Ok i just saw that saurav included a link to your thread. However yours isn't a one word answer because of what you added to it.

[GommeInc]

I don't think so, really tbh. Dan's one about windows is fine as he actually asks about the age and charactor of the house which attracts constructive answers. The others just attract one word answers so not really constructive.
Who's to say one word answers aren't constructive? Learning about someone's room colour could encourage conversation, or at least learn what another member's likes and/or dislikes are. But what Undertaker has done is useful as it is purely there to encourage good answers, perhaps encouraging this could work? If the threads aren't constructive, then you move them. It's quite simple really :P

[myke]

eurgh dear lord i've just logged on and mentioning no names there's like 40 threads in there from one person asking questions

its boring

that is all

[buttons]

what's the problem seriously
even though people are taking the piss, there's more people who normally don't post much that are replying. idc if you find it boring i personally like seeing everyone's answers

[flatface]

what's the problem seriously
even though people are taking the piss, there's more people who normally don't post much that are replying. idc if you find it boring i personally like seeing everyone's answers

I agree - I find some of the quite interesting to read

[W00TZEH]

YEH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING DONT EVEN POST THEIR OWN THREADS IN THERE SO THEY SHOULD PUT UP OR SHUT UP

[Catzsy]

Who's to say one word answers aren't constructive? Learning about someone's room colour could encourage conversation, or at least learn what another member's likes and/or dislikes are. But what Undertaker has done is useful as it is purely there to encourage good answers, perhaps encouraging this could work? If the threads aren't constructive, then you move them. It's quite simple really :P


eurgh dear lord i've just logged on and mentioning no names there's like 40 threads in there from one person asking questions

its boring

that is all
Yes and it clogs up the new posts and so is classed as spam - always has been. There is a rule about non-constructive threads, Gomme they are called pointless and I am sure they put some posters off.




what's the problem seriously
even though people are taking the piss, there's more people who normally don't post much that are replying. idc if you find it boring i personally like seeing everyone's answers

Nail hit on the head with that comment and I have noticed recently that the numbers on the forum are actually dropping.

[GommeInc]

Yes and it clogs up the new posts and so is classed as spam - always has been. There is a rule about non-constructive threads, Gomme they are called pointless and I am sure they put some posters off.
Not everyone will be interested in what the new posts section has to offer :P People who tend to use it tend to be interested in the whole forum, so it would be likely random crap would come up. If you like a specific thing, you go to the specific forum(s) for it. You could just remove the forum from the new posts section, but not all those threads are pointless or spam :/

[Catzsy]

Not everyone will be interested in what the new posts section has to offer :P People who tend to use it tend to be interested in the whole forum, so it would be likely random crap would come up. If you like a specific thing, you go to the specific forum(s) for it. You could just remove the forum from the new posts section, but not all those threads are pointless or spam :/

I agree not all but the majority of them and why bypass the new posts facilty - it is there for members to use. :P

[GommeInc]

I agree not all but the majority of them and why bypass the new posts facilty - it is there for members to use. :P

There isn't really any other use for the Discuss Anything forum, it's a forum that has useful posts that do not really fit anywhere else but they're not pointless enough to be spam. It's where the moderator who mods that section comes in to remove all the pointless ones and leave the other statistical threads where you discuss information about yourselves :P

[Catzsy]

There isn't really any other use for the Discuss Anything forum, it's a forum that has useful posts that do not really fit anywhere else but they're not pointless enough to be spam. It's where the moderator who mods that section comes in to remove all the pointless ones and leave the other statistical threads where you discuss information about yourselves :P

Yes well we used to have a posting for postcount sake rule but I guess it's been replaced by the new 'discuss nothing' forum. :P

[Axel]

As I said when this last came up and as is still the case, these threads do not generate discussion. Having a lot of replies is not discussion, it basically amounts to a poll with a post count.

http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656217 2 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656219 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655946 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655795 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655562 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655913 1 person with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=650549 4 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655797 no-one with more than 1 post

These threads have lots of answers but cannot be called discussion because nobody is discussing anything, it's just an answer per person then leave for the most part. Discuss Anything is literally spam with post count enabled, considering anything with an actual topic can be housed elsewhere.

Agree 100% with this post. I had a rant about it a bit earlier in the year, with immenseman posting dumb threads like 'if you were a vegetable what would you be' or something. These threads will never create discussion, except for maybe people going, in the example of 'how many windows does your house have', "oh wow, you have a lot of windows on your house" or something, and that'd be it. It's more of a stupid and random question forum than a discuss anything forum sometimes.

[GommeInc]

Yes well we used to have a posting for postcount sake rule but I guess it's been replaced by the new 'discuss nothing' forum. :P

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656376 - Quite interesting, you can't really chuck a one word answer in there and it actually makes you think :P

Anything about greatest memory on HxF etc are fine, the rest I think used to go in the Forum Games for, if it still exists?

[Catzsy]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656376 - Quite interesting, you can't really chuck a one word answer in there and it actually makes you think :P

Anything about greatest memory on HxF etc are fine, the rest I think used to go in the Forum Games for, if it still exists?

I didn't say all, Gomme. :P

[AgnesIO]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656376 - Quite interesting, you can't really chuck a one word answer in there and it actually makes you think :P

Anything about greatest memory on HxF etc are fine, the rest I think used to go in the Forum Games for, if it still exists?

That thread is slightly different to 'how many windows does your house have?' or 'What colou are the bricks on your house?'

[Catzsy]

That thread is slightly different to 'how many windows does your house have?' or 'What colou are the bricks on your house?'

I am surprised we haven't had one asking how many times we cut our toenails in a year. :P

[AgnesIO]

I am surprised we haven't had one asking how many times we cut our toenails in a year. :P

There's nothing wrong with that according to Oli lol

[Catzsy]

There's nothing wrong with that according to Oli lol

Well he is the boss but it seems the forum is turing into a bit of a spam zone. It used to be about quality threads.

[AgnesIO]

Well he is the boss but it seems the forum is turing into a bit of a spam zone. It used to be about quality threads.

On the other hand I would have thought anyone using their brain could see it is spam (that was not being offensive, but I think it is pretty obvious) :P I still think turn off post count for one month and posts would decrease

[Catzsy]

On the other hand I would have thought anyone using their brain could see it is spam (that was not being offensive, but I think it is pretty obvious) :P I still think turn off post count for one month and posts would decrease

Well what's 'spam' to us seems to have a different interpretation these days but woe betide anybody giving one word answers in the Welcome Forum or Graphics section as they would be leaned upon heavily for spamming for post count. Don't really see what the difference is tbh with the majority of threads.

[AgnesIO]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&p=6613094#post6613094

Some of the replies to that thread.. pointless.

[Hecktix]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&p=6613094#post6613094

Some of the replies to that thread.. pointless.

Tis in spam now, in future if you report the post rather than posting it in feedback it may get dealt with through the proper lines :P

The pointless posting rule will be expanded upon this weekend to include the banishing of one word answers.

[AgnesIO]

Tis in spam now, in future if you report the post rather than posting it in feedback it may get dealt with through the proper lines :P

The pointless posting rule will be expanded upon this weekend to include the banishing of one word answers.

The thread wasn't he problem though. I would say hat was one of the BETTER threads, it was people answering who ruined it - although I can't see why u randomly talk to strangers but anyway :L

By one word, does hat banish clearly pointless ones too like '5 windows, i love my wooden windows'

[Hecktix]

The thread wasn't he problem though. I would say hat was one of the BETTER threads, it was people answering who ruined it - although I can't see why u randomly talk to strangers but anyway :L

By one word, does hat banish clearly pointless ones too like '5 windows, i love my wooden windows'

Well, the windows thread is actually one of the better ones as Undertaker poses multiple questions in there with it, but yes overall this will restrict threads that can only be answered by one word but will still cater for threads like "What colour is your bedroom?" because with a new rule users would be advised to explain why it's that particular colour, or things like what colours it has been before etc can be added.

[GommeInc]

That thread is slightly different to 'how many windows does your house have?' or 'What colou are the bricks on your house?'

Roughly the same though, they're statistical (if that's a word) but have a more varied answer than yes, no and colours :P

And I know you didn't say all Catzsy m'dear :P I think we're repeating ourselves but agree that some are okay, some are not :P

[Catzsy]

Tis in spam now, in future if you report the post rather than posting it in feedback it may get dealt with through the proper lines :P

The pointless posting rule will be expanded upon this weekend to include the banishing of one word answers.

It would be more constructive to ban threads that are weak in substance in the first place, unless in spam, like it used to be.

The OP post is the most important and if it is just a 'closed' question it is bound to attract one word answers. Quality threads don't do this.

I feel decisions are just being made on the hoof without really considering the full effects.

[Hecktix]

It would be more constructive to ban threads that are weak in substance in the first place, unless in spam, like it used to be.

The OP post is the most important and if it is just a 'closed' question it is bound to attract one word answers. Quality threads don't do this.

I feel decisions are just being made on the hoof without really considering the full effects.

A rule against one word answers will eradicate closed questioned threads really, yet still leave the potential for some of the topics that are there currently to expand.

[Catzsy]

A rule against one word answers will eradicate closed questioned threads really, yet still leave the potential for some of the topics that are there currently to expand.

So will it eradicate them or not? A closed question is just that and quite honestly I cannot imagine anybody actually holding their hands up and saying they are not doing it just for the post count.

[Jordy]

As I said when this last came up and as is still the case, these threads do not generate discussion. Having a lot of replies is not discussion, it basically amounts to a poll with a post count.

http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656217 2 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=656219 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655946 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655795 no-one with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655562 3 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655913 1 person with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=650549 4 people with more than 1 post
http://www.habboxforum.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=655797 no-one with more than 1 post

These threads have lots of answers but cannot be called discussion because nobody is discussing anything, it's just an answer per person then leave for the most part. Discuss Anything is literally spam with post count enabled, considering anything with an actual topic can be housed elsewhere.


I have to agree. These are not constructive threads at all and how on earth can members be expected to reply constructively to weak threads like these because they attract one or two word answers. Wootzeh was making a point and I think we all know they are more suitable for spam and not long ago they clogged up the new posts for quite awhile. It is just posting for post count - nothing more, nothing less. Its not all about stats and how many threads are posted. Habbox has always been known for quality threads and quite honestly the members who do post quality threads will be put off by what is basically spamming. Bad decision I feel to let them happen in the first place. It set a bad precedent which others have followed. If you had a quick Q&A forum where the post count was disabled they would disappear in a flash.


HabboxForum was known for it's quality of threads but now it seems the current management are only concerned with quantity.

To me it looks like Discuss Anything is Spam #2 as by the looks of this thread, it suggests that what is posted in Spam (well a lot of it) can be posted in Discuss Anything.To be honest I was going to make a thread about this as it's just ridiculous, failing that I was going to respond to this thread but I can't argue with the three people above, they've all got it bang on.

Oli I don't know why you're pretending the colour of your bed sheet is interesting cause it's just crap, and if I'm honest you just seem to be struggling to come up with a good rule to stop them. Personally I would go with the common sense approach and just move them to spam, therefore removing the need to think up yet another confusing rule. Discuss Anything used to have quality threads which provoked interesting and constructive debate, these threads are purely to prove a point and rank up post count.

As for Immenseman, while he did start the craze of spamming up Discuss Anything, his threads were actually quite constructive.

[hah]

Well he is the boss but it seems the forum is turing into a bit of a spam zone. It used to be about quality threads.

Sorry but i don't see you creating threads in order for people to discuss things, these one word answer threads (which there are very few of) are getting people posting. Not everyone here likes to read quality, intellectual threads like you and most of the people complaining in this thread.

You're trying to ban threads which get people posting yet none of yous are suggesting ideas to get people posting if they are banned.

It seems like a very small majority of the forum only agree these threads are pointless. Im sure if a poll was done you would see most people enjoy the threads

[Hecktix]

So will it eradicate them or not? A closed question is just that and quite honestly I cannot imagine anybody actually holding their hands up and saying they are not doing it just for the post count.

If a thread appears which can only really be responded to with A or B and no more can be said regarding the discussion then it's not a discussion and the thread will either be moved to spam or closed.

The rule will state that posts must not be of one or two words outside spam or forum games, this means any thread made that will only attract one or two word answers which cannot be expanded on will find their way to being closed.

[AgnesIO]

If a thread appears which can only really be responded to with A or B and no more can be said regarding the discussion then it's not a discussion and the thread will either be moved to spam or closed.

The rule will state that posts must not be of one or two words outside spam or forum games, this means any thread made that will only attract one or two word answers which cannot be expanded on will find their way to being closed.

Soo no it won't eradicate the threads that should have no post count, and I and others are still awaiting an answer on why there is post count for such silly threads :L

[Hecktix]

Soo no it won't eradicate the threads that should have no post count, and I and others are still awaiting an answer on why there is post count for such silly threads :L

If the posts have a point then they deserve a post count :S It's posts which have one or two word answers and don't explain anything that don't deserve a post count. By adding a new rule that posting must be substantial rather than one or two words, then people will either A) Not reply to such threads therefore such threads will eventually cease to exist or B) reply constructively turning such threads into a more substantial discussion about the individuals (as this is what they are, apart from some weird and stupid ones like radiators in your house and what colour is your front door etc) - if the replies to the threads are substanial and have explanations/reasons why there's no reason why they shouldn't get a post count, editing the rule will solve the problem - I don't see why you can't understand this.

[Jordy]

If a thread appears which can only really be responded to with A or B and no more can be said regarding the discussion then it's not a discussion and the thread will either be moved to spam or closed. What about this thread then? http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655562

[Hecktix]

What about this thread then? http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=655562

Not against the rules at the moment Jordy, I have said I will change the rule this weekend :)

[Mickword]

I thought it was just to discuss anything random or pointless...

[Hecktix]

I thought it was just to discuss anything random or pointless...

Most definitely not pointless, that's what spam's for :P

[AgnesIO]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&page=2

Oh what a surprise - it was moved to spam and nobody replied since.

Isn't that proof lol.

[hah]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&page=2

Oh what a surprise - it was moved to spam and nobody replied since.

Isn't that proof lol.

no that is just a really boring thread. i wouldnt reply to it even if it was in discuss anything

[AgnesIO]

no that is just a really boring thread. i wouldnt reply to it even if it was in discuss anything

Let's be honest. Most people would.

You cannot possibly say talking about the colour of your door is interesting.

[Catzsy]

Sorry but i don't see you creating threads in order for people to discuss things, these one word answer threads (which there are very few of) are getting people posting. Not everyone here likes to read quality, intellectual threads like you and most of the people complaining in this thread.

You're trying to ban threads which get people posting yet none of yous are suggesting ideas to get people posting if they are banned.

It seems like a very small majority of the forum only agree these threads are pointless. Im sure if a poll was done you would see most people enjoy the threads

The threads I post are thought out and don't require one word answers. Perhaps if there was not so much clogging up with these weak threads members would be encouraged to post more. Habbox has survived very well before this new recent trend and will be better if they are banned. That's my opinion and why have you specifically pointed me out?

@ Oli

If a thread appears which can only really be responded to with A or B and no more can be said regarding the discussion then it's not a discussion and the thread will either be moved to spam or closed.

The rule will state that posts must not be of one or two words outside spam or forum games, this means any thread made that will only attract one or two word answers which cannot be expanded on will find their way to being closed.

Yes that seems to make a great deal of sense and hopefully members will see the logic of it.

[Hecktix]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&page=2

Oh what a surprise - it was moved to spam and nobody replied since.

Isn't that proof lol.

Yes, you don't need to keep going on about it I've said what's going to be happening :P

[AgnesIO]

Yes, you don't need to keep going on about it I've said what's going to be happening :P

I just like to put my point across :L

[AgnesIO]

no that is just a really boring thread. i wouldnt reply to it even if it was in discuss anything

Sorry for double posting however.

To be fair sex you wouldn't want the rule changed - 9 out of 20 threads on that page are by you lol.

I have nothing against making the forum more active, but making it active through curtain colour seems silly lol

I would rather it were not as active,

[buttons]

Not everyone here likes to read quality, intellectual threads like you and most of the people complaining in this thread.
definitely, hardly anyone has the brain to post anything more than 2 paragraphs long anyway.
you want threads which involve giving a thought out answer more 'intelligent' replies? go to the debates section.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=656475&page=2

Oh what a surprise - it was moved to spam and nobody replied since.

Isn't that proof lol.
uh, no? that's proof that moving the threads to spam decreases posting activity. a lot of people don't reply to spam threads because of the people there, putting them in discuss anything allows everyone to join in.

honestly someone go post a complex question which requires using your brain (a lot of those 'pointless threads' do, for me at least) instead of complaining and we'll see how much replies you get. personally there's nothing more off putting, boring and depressing than reading threads which have all replies more than 4 or 5 lines. hardly anyone will read it. if i'm in that kind of mood i head over to debates, if i want to post to get involved i like health, life etc and discuss anything.

[Catzsy]

definitely, hardly anyone has the brain to post anything more than 2 paragraphs long anyway.you want threads which involve giving a thought out answer more 'intelligent' replies? go to the debates section.

uh, no? that's proof that moving the threads to spam decreases posting activity. a lot of people don't reply to spam threads because of the people there, putting them in discuss anything allows everyone to join in.

honestly someone go post a complex question which requires using your brain (a lot of those 'pointless threads' do, for me at least) instead of complaining and we'll see how much replies you get. personally there's nothing more off putting, boring and depressing than reading threads which have all replies more than 4 or 5 lines. hardly anyone will read it. if i'm in that kind of mood i head over to debates, if i want to post to get involved i like health, life etc and discuss anything.

You seem to have a very low opinion of the members here and don't forget the spam section is for pointless threads - the only downside is there is no post count which I feel is the main reason for these threads and posts anyway. Perhaps the spam section members could consider being a little more welcoming to new members?

[buttons]

You seem to have a very low opinion of the members here
or i just have a high one of myself? :)

and don't forget the spam section is for pointless threads
yes, yes it is. pointless as in people use it to rant/chat etc. it's rarely used to asked questions, the ones in discuss anything do. i totally agree "what colour" and "how many" should be dealt with. the ones jake used to do and some of graham's are not too bad, i enjoyed jake's anyway. i see why people are complaining but don't see anyone who contributes to that forum anyway so if there wasn't any of these threads it'd be dead. it only happens every so often and the recent ones are only because people are moaning or because some want to deliberately post pointless ones to "prove a point". no-ones forcing anyone to post and no-ones stopping anyone posting their own threads which they think are much more relevant than the rest :rolleyes: i would like to see an example of one which promotes discussion? or are we complaining just because we can?

Perhaps the spam section members could consider being a little more welcoming to new members?
i think you know very well that's unlikely. even members who've used it for a while still aren't "welcome" :S

[AgnesIO]

or i just have a high one of myself? :)

yes, yes it is. pointless as in people use it to rant/chat etc. it's rarely used to asked questions, the ones in discuss anything do. i totally agree "what colour" and "how many" should be dealt with. the ones jake used to do and some of graham's are not too bad, i enjoyed jake's anyway. i see why people are complaining but don't see anyone who contributes to that forum anyway so if there wasn't any of these threads it'd be dead. it only happens every so often and the recent ones are only because people are moaning or because some want to deliberately post pointless ones to "prove a point". no-ones forcing anyone to post and no-ones stopping anyone posting their own threads which they think are much more relevant than the rest :rolleyes: i would like to see an example of one which promotes discussion? or are we complaining just because we can?

i think you know very well that's unlikely. even members who've used it for a while still aren't "welcome" :S

About the ones which promote discussion it used to have some really good topics in the forum - just they slowly fizzled out while these one's came in. Discuss anything always used to be one of my favoured forums, now though I much prefer other forum's in the general and tech section

[Catzsy]

or i just have a high one of myself? :)

yes, yes it is. pointless as in people use it to rant/chat etc. it's rarely used to asked questions, the ones in discuss anything do. i totally agree "what colour" and "how many" should be dealt with. the ones jake used to do and some of graham's are not too bad, i enjoyed jake's anyway. i see why people are complaining but don't see anyone who contributes to that forum anyway so if there wasn't any of these threads it'd be dead. it only happens every so often and the recent ones are only because people are moaning or because some want to deliberately post pointless ones to "prove a point". no-ones forcing anyone to post and no-ones stopping anyone posting their own threads which they think are much more relevant than the rest :rolleyes: i would like to see an example of one which promotes discussion? or are we complaining just because we can?

i think you know very well that's unlikely. even members who've used it for a while still aren't "welcome" :S

So you are saying that the people against the pointless posting in this thread don't contribute to that forum? Probably because it is just so full of pretty superficial ones. I think three decent threads is worth 20 pointless ones and the new posts system being clogged up with them is a problem. It started with Jake and then started again recently. Nobody has to 'prove a point' as the threads are there to see. The forum is not dead and is not dying. As far as you comment about spam is concerned it should be looked into as it is shouldn't be up to a few members of one forum to decide who posts there.

[ecstasy]

If a thread appears which can only really be responded to with A or B and no more can be said regarding the discussion then it's not a discussion and the thread will either be moved to spam or closed.

The rule will state that posts must not be of one or two words outside spam or forum games, this means any thread made that will only attract one or two word answers which cannot be expanded on will find their way to being closed.
I think this is the best option. Discuss Anything is full of crap threads but there are some interesting ones (some have been linked in here) so it should, in theory, get red of the crap ones and leave the decent ones


As far as you comment about spam is concerned it should be looked into as it is shouldn't be up to a few members of one forum to decide who posts there.
Its not like people are deciding who can post in there, people just tend not to cause threads from people new to spam seem to get shot down

[Catzsy]

I think this is the best option. Discuss Anything is full of crap threads but there are some interesting ones (some have been linked in here) so it should, in theory, get red of the crap ones and leave the decent ones


Its not like people are deciding who can post in there, people just tend not to cause threads from people new to spam seem to get shot down

So essentially is there any difference? The effect is the same. :)

[ecstasy]

So essentially is there any difference? The effect is the same. :)
No ones stopping them from posting there, their threads just tend to be crap/uninteresting. If someone who normally posts in spam posts a crap thread then that'll get buried too. Its the crap threads that aren't 'accepted', they just tend to be from people new to spam

[Hecktix]

Any "shooting down" of members anywhere will be dealt with severely (as it already is in spam).

[FlyingJesus]

honestly someone go post a complex question which requires using your brain (a lot of those 'pointless threads' do, for me at least) instead of complaining and we'll see how much replies you get.

It's not really about the amount of replies, if there's 50 people replying to a thread once and then leaving it then it doesn't mean it's a good thread because there's no actual discussion, might as well be in forum games.