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xxMATTGxx
15-07-2010, 12:58 AM
LoopInsight, Engadget and others are reporting that Apple will be holding a press conference this Friday.

Apple on Wednesday invited select press to a special press conference to be held this Friday in California. Apple would only say that the press conference would be regarding the iPhone 4. No other information was available when I spoke with them tonight.
The topic of discussion, of course, is the iPhone 4 which has received much press over the past few weeks regarding a signal loss issue when it is held in certain ways. A Consumer Reports article reignited discussion of this issue earlier this week.

Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/14/apple-holding-iphone-4-press-conference-on-friday/

Interesting indeed, what do you think they will say?

GommeInc
15-07-2010, 01:01 AM
Source: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/14/apple-holding-iphone-4-press-conference-on-friday/

Interesting indeed, what do you think they will say?
" ...and we personally blame each carrier, it's their fault and not ours. It is a phone, so just stop moaning about it. Worse things happen at sea, it's where Bill Gates was conceived, and you know how evil and corrupt he is. Google are evil too, we hate them, it's their fault, they planted a bug." Yadda yadda yadda, not our fault. Not sure what the point is of this conference, just fix the sodding things and not waste money booking conferences and so forth. Imbesiles.

W00TZEH
15-07-2010, 01:03 AM
ALL YOUR MONEY ARE BELONG TO US

IS WHAT THEY'LL SAY

StefanWolves
16-07-2010, 04:50 PM
i hope they recall it, i already got a big hefty scratch on the front of mine :(

xxMATTGxx
16-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Free case for every iPhone 4, refund if you bought a bumper. Every iPhone 4 Purchased through September 30.

Proximity sensor issue is being worked on. White iPhone shipping at end of month. July 30th: iPhone to 17 more countries.

Jordy
16-07-2010, 05:41 PM
What a load of crap, don't fall for these jokers. It took them 22 days to realise they need to hand out free cases?! I'm sorry but there's no way they're off the hook with that. People pay premium prices for Apple products because of their reliability and fantastic support, I no longer see how they can justify this seeing as it does neither anymore.

kk.
16-07-2010, 09:48 PM
What a load of crap, don't fall for these jokers. It took them 22 days to realise they need to hand out free cases?! I'm sorry but there's no way they're off the hook with that. People pay premium prices for Apple products because of their reliability and fantastic support, I no longer see how they can justify this seeing as it does neither anymore.

How long did the Wii take to notice their remotes were breaking things?


What are you meant to do if you've bought a different case :l and how do you go about getting one?

Sharon
16-07-2010, 10:01 PM
A free case? Better than nothing.

xxMATTGxx
16-07-2010, 10:28 PM
On their "Android" testing video. It just shown the bars go down, but they still have signal and able to send messages, do calls and load up internet pages. Where as the iPhone 4 actually has problems with that if you do the so called death grip. But Apple say most smartphones/phones have the same issue? When that isn't the case.

StefanWolves
16-07-2010, 11:34 PM
free bumper, good stuff

makes me laugh people persistently deny that their beloved androids don't lose signal when squeezed abnormally in a certain area.

xxMATTGxx
16-07-2010, 11:59 PM
free bumper, good stuff

makes me laugh people persistently deny that their beloved androids don't lose signal when squeezed abnormally in a certain area.

I'm not denying it. But the way Apple were showing other smartphones having the so called "same issue as the iPhone 4" is not correct. iPhone 4 when you cover that area of the phone, the signal goes and you have issues calling people/loading internet pages. The way Apple shown does not affect how people on Android text/call/load internet pages, as actually there is still signal.

Meaning Apple saying "other phones have the same issue" is not correct in that sense. Yes the signal drops but they didn't show they had problems such as drop calls/loading internet pages etc etc etc. They just shown the strength going down...

GommeInc
17-07-2010, 12:27 AM
How long did the Wii take to notice their remotes were breaking things?


What are you meant to do if you've bought a different case :l and how do you go about getting one?
Not on purpose, that's a user problem with idiots being too violent with them. An Apple equivilent would be someone chucking an iPhone at a TV, or more realistic, someone blaming Apple for them (the individual) dropping it on the floor. So your comparison doesn't really work.


free bumper, good stuff

makes me laugh people persistently deny that their beloved androids don't lose signal when squeezed abnormally in a certain area.
*squeezes Sony Ericsson Xperia x10 running Android 1.6* Nope, nothing. Where are your sources? Non-existent? Try again, you've said this before and got proven wrong :P

kk.
17-07-2010, 01:04 AM
Not on purpose, that's a user problem with idiots being too violent with them. An Apple equivilent would be someone chucking an iPhone at a TV, or more realistic, someone blaming Apple for them (the individual) dropping it on the floor. So your comparison doesn't really work.


Well, it is.. Like I said in another thread, I'm not affected by it because I don't hold it in such a way that disturbs the signal. So it is user error. Not everyone threw the wiimote at the tv but they offered it to everyone when it became apparent people were actually doing it, and having problems.. Just like apple. Only apple seem to have a turn around of 20 something days whereas nintendo corrected it after months.

---------- Post added 17-07-2010 at 02:06 AM ----------

You have to find the arial too btw:

http://www.apple.com/antenna/

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 01:07 AM
Well, it is.. Like I said in another thread, I'm not affected by it because I don't hold it in such a way that disturbs the signal. So it is user error. Not everyone threw the wiimote at the tv but they offered it to everyone when it became apparent people were actually doing it, and having problems.. Just like apple. Only apple seem to have a turn around of 20 something days whereas nintendo corrected it after months.

---------- Post added 17-07-2010 at 02:06 AM ----------

You have to find the arial too btw:

http://www.apple.com/antenna/

So your saying holding the iPhone 4 like you would with any other phone in your left hand is a user problem? :S

HotelUser
17-07-2010, 05:21 AM
So your saying holding the iPhone 4 like you would with any other phone in your left hand is a user problem? :S

I would say it's preventable by the user but because the user has to go out of his or her way to do it is absurd.

My Nexus One loses service when I hold it in my left hand, but I have to be gripping it pretty intensely. I don't think it helps that I live in Canada and so my closest radio tower is very far away anyhow (I do not get full coverage in my home).

I read on Engadget that Apple's giving out some sort of free bumper / case or something. Ah well--it's better than nothing I suppose, for those poor folks who are locked in on their 3 year contracts.

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 07:57 AM
I would say it's preventable by the user but because the user has to go out of his or her way to do it is absurd.

My Nexus One loses service when I hold it in my left hand, but I have to be gripping it pretty intensely. I don't think it helps that I live in Canada and so my closest radio tower is very far away anyhow (I do not get full coverage in my home).

I read on Engadget that Apple's giving out some sort of free bumper / case or something. Ah well--it's better than nothing I suppose, for those poor folks who are locked in on their 3 year contracts.


That was Apple's first comment regarding it. It isn't an issue and hold it different, but that's how you hold phones in your left hand near your ear and whatever else. What is the need of "changing" that just for one phone. Yes, the user can change how they hold it but they shouldn't have to and Apple should of realized that but hey, you get a free case.

Also on your Nexus one, do you get the "X" on the signal?

kk.
17-07-2010, 08:24 AM
That was Apple's first comment regarding it. It isn't an issue and hold it different, but that's how you hold phones in your left hand near your ear and whatever else. What is the need of "changing" that just for one phone. Yes, the user can change how they hold it but they shouldn't have to and Apple should of realized that but hey, you get a free case.

I'm saying that holding it in your left hand in a specific way and squeezing is a user problem. Does it affect everyone? No. Because I hasn't affected me. Therefore, it is only specific to some users..

Also on your Nexus one, do you get the "X" on the signal?
Why are you pushing the part about it actually having an 'x' or saying no service? It depends where you are. If you're in a city with great signal, it doesn't go all the way down to nothing. They said that the formula to calculate it was wrong anyway.

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 08:27 AM
Why are you pushing the part about it actually having an 'x' or saying no service? It depends where you are. If you're in a city with great signal, it doesn't go all the way down to nothing. They said that the formula to calculate it was wrong anyway.

I'm talking about his Android phone which works different to the iPhone? :S

"Android has "5" levels of these bars, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 bars, we still have signal at 0, we don't have any when it turns to an X."

Hence me asking if he ever gets the "X".

kk.
17-07-2010, 08:38 AM
I'm talking about his Android phone which works different to the iPhone? :S

"Android has "5" levels of these bars, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 bars, we still have signal at 0, we don't have any when it turns to an X."

Hence me asking if he ever gets the "X".

Yes but it was obvious what you were getting at.. You were going for the 'iPhone drops the signal all the way down but it doesn't happen in other phones' argument. As I said, it depends what your signal is like in the first place. Mine for example, is crap in my area, and so it'll say no service. But in others, if you squeeze tight, it might only drop 3 bars

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 08:39 AM
Yes but it was obvious what you were getting at.. You were going for the 'iPhone drops the signal all the way down but it doesn't happen in other phones' argument. As I said, it depends what your signal is like in the first place. Mine for example, is crap in my area, and so it'll say no service. But in others, if you squeeze tight, it might only drop 3 bars

I wanted to see what he meant by "no service" as he might mean just no bars or even the X on the phone. We all know that Apple didn't fully explain the "Testing other mobile phones" correctly. ;)

Recursion
17-07-2010, 08:46 AM
At above, Matt copied what I said on another forum, Android STILL HAS A GOOD ENOUGH SIGNAL TO MAKE CALLS AND SURF THE INTERNET AT 0 BARS. When it cannot do these, it turns to an X. When I did the "Death grip" on my Desire, it dropped from 4 bars to 3 bars, oh, and yes, I could still make and receive calls ;)

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 08:47 AM
Apple have also annoyed Nokia and RIM with their so called "Phone testing" with Nokia saying comments such as:

"As you would expect from a company focused on connecting people, we prioritize antenna performance over physical design if they are ever in conflict."

kk.
17-07-2010, 08:48 AM
I wanted to see what he meant by "no service" as he might mean just no bars or even the X on the phone. We all know that Apple didn't fully explain the "Testing other mobile phones" correctly. ;)

If they haven't tested them properly they'll be called up by some government agency about product bashing as well as possible court sentences due to the other manufacturers likely loss of product sales


At recursion, why not read what I've been saying first..

Recursion
17-07-2010, 08:49 AM
Apple have also annoyed Nokia and RIM with their so called "Phone testing" with Nokia saying comments such as:

"As you would expect from a company focused on connecting people, we prioritize antenna performance over physical design if they are ever in conflict."

And that's why Nokia have been doing so well in "connecting people" :D

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 08:52 AM
If they haven't tested them properly they'll be called up by some government agency about product bashing as well as possible court sentences due to the other manufacturers likely loss of product sales


At recursion, why not read what I've been saying first..

I wish but that probably won't happen. All they shown was phones can drop bars while doing the death grip. But that's not the main issue with the iPhone 4, it actually could not make calls or load up webpages which they did not show on any other device. Which is then why companies like Nokia and RIM are also not happy!

kk.
17-07-2010, 09:01 AM
I wish but that probably won't happen. All they shown was phones can drop bars while doing the death grip. But that's not the main issue with the iPhone 4, it actually could not make calls or load up webpages which they did not show on any other device. Which is then why companies like Nokia and RIM are also not happy!

Look, I'm really not willing to argue anymore. If you say you're not some sort of droid fanboy then that is the biggest lie of the century. You'll go out of your way to make a thread for the conference, and ten still bash it even when apple give a fix. This thread isn't about why it loses signal, or how others apparently don't, it's about what apple are doing to resolve it.

Recursion
17-07-2010, 09:06 AM
Look, I'm really not willing to argue anymore. If you say you're not some sort of droid fanboy then that is the biggest lie of the century. You'll go out of your way to make a thread for the conference, and ten still bash it even when apple give a fix. This thread isn't about why it loses signal, or how others apparently don't, it's about what apple are doing to resolve it.

It's a good thing that Apple have announced free bumpers and returns, but they should have done something about it sooner, and I do know they are looking at a hardware fix for September, but I still think that they spent 15 minutes of that conference bashing other phones and giving unneccessary "statistics" and sales data.

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 09:07 AM
Look, I'm really not willing to argue anymore. If you say you're not some sort of droid fanboy then that is the biggest lie of the century. You'll go out of your way to make a thread for the conference, and ten still bash it even when apple give a fix. This thread isn't about why it loses signal, or how others apparently don't, it's about what apple are doing to resolve it.

This thread is to share your views on what Apple said at the conference and this is one of the things they said. I'm allowed to make threads about any company in this section even if I do love my Opensource goodness of Android but that is not the point here, I don't know how the other phones work and I've been told how the Android signal works. I'm basically saying the way Apple said "most/all phones have this issue" in a way is incorrect. Because the iPhone 4 does lose signal but actually has issues doing the tasks a phone should do, where Android still has signal. (The video Apple showed)

Oh and I like the free case and refunds for people who have bought bumper cases, but I'm talking about what Steve Jobs said. :P

Hitman
17-07-2010, 09:15 AM
My old SE doesn't have this problem. I gripped it so tight once that the bars fell, but not to 0, and it was so tight I nearly broke it... tried it again and didn't happen. Design fault methinks.

StefanWolves
17-07-2010, 09:33 AM
I would say it's preventable by the user but because the user has to go out of his or her way to do it is absurd.

My Nexus One loses service when I hold it in my left hand, but I have to be gripping it pretty intensely. I don't think it helps that I live in Canada and so my closest radio tower is very far away anyhow (I do not get full coverage in my home).

I read on Engadget that Apple's giving out some sort of free bumper / case or something. Ah well--it's better than nothing I suppose, for those poor folks who are locked in on their 3 year contracts.

Likewise on my iPhone 4. People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones, and certain people on here blow it all out if proportion. Makes me laugh also, they're tryin to tell me what my iPhone 4 does. Well guess what, I don't find gripping it a problem, because I don't strangle my iPhone.

I'll take my free bumper, thanks. :)

@above; neither does the iPhone 4.

EDIT; sorry I rofld. View this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLxY21CCf4&feature=youtube_

So, HTC fan boys, you say your phones are so perfect, yet they have exactly the same problem.

/thread

Hitman
17-07-2010, 09:43 AM
Likewise on my iPhone 4. People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones, and certain people on here blow it all out if proportion. Makes me laugh also, they're tryin to tell me what my iPhone 4 does. Well guess what, I don't find gripping it a problem, because I don't strangle my iPhone.

I'll take my free bumper, thanks. :)

@above; neither does the iPhone 4.
Hahahahaha good joke. How can it not have this problem when so many people have reported it and Apple acknowledges it? :S I'm not apple bashing, I would love some apple products (but they're pricey) but there is an issue here...

StefanWolves
17-07-2010, 09:51 AM
I'll direct you back to my earlier edited post:

Likewise on my iPhone 4. People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones, and certain people on here blow it all out if proportion. Makes me laugh also, they're tryin to tell me what my iPhone 4 does. Well guess what, I don't find gripping it a problem, because I don't strangle my iPhone.

I'll take my free bumper, thanks. :)

@above; neither does the iPhone 4.

EDIT; sorry I rofld. View this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLxY21CCf4&feature=youtube_

So, HTC fan boys, you say your phones are so perfect, yet they have exactly the same problem.

Btw, did you got a free case for this issue? Lolololol

/thread

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 09:54 AM
Likewise on my iPhone 4. People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones, and certain people on here blow it all out if proportion. Makes me laugh also, they're tryin to tell me what my iPhone 4 does. Well guess what, I don't find gripping it a problem, because I don't strangle my iPhone.

I'll take my free bumper, thanks. :)

@above; neither does the iPhone 4.

EDIT; sorry I rofld. View this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLxY21CCf4&feature=youtube_

So, HTC fan boys, you say your phones are so perfect, yet they have exactly the same problem.

/thread

Let's get a few points out here.

1. You do not have to hold the iPhone 4 "tight" to trigger the problem.
2. Apple have said they aren't perfect and they actually admit there is an issue.
3. That video of the Nexus One shows the phone switching from 3G to Edge right? The iPhone 4 doesn't even do that. It stops you from doing calls and connecting to the webpages. Even with EDGE you can still use the phone as a phone.
4. HTC Fanboys? Read up on Android. HTC is not the only company who make phones running the Android operating system.

Hitman
17-07-2010, 09:54 AM
I'll direct you back to my earlier edited post:
I am not talking about the nexus phone. My SE has no problems with signal, even when I grip it so hard it almost crushes. I just tried again, got bored waiting for anything to happen. From what I gather it's because the wifi antenna and the normal cellular antenna are close together and it bridges a gap - surely apple could have seen people would hold it in this way and move it elsewhere? They spent $100mil on this... again, not apple bashing but if there was no problem there wouldn't be all this stuff in the news and they wouldn't be giving out free accessories.

Flisker
17-07-2010, 10:22 AM
Right I'm death gripping my HTc Desire in every possible way but not losing 1 bar of signal at all... Heck I even got an email while I was death gripping my phone...

GommeInc
17-07-2010, 11:26 AM
2. Apple have said they aren't perfect and they actually admit there is an issue.
Took them long enough, even though they're still a bit scattish with admiting their wrong and that the iPhone 4 will go down in history as a joke :P

I like how apparently HTC and Android are the same thing. What the hell is my Sony Ericsson then :S

Stefen 0 - Everyone else 1∞ (infinity)

Trinity
17-07-2010, 01:15 PM
People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones

I shall post the same link as I did the last time I saw you saying this. http://vimeo.com/12864890
Not strangling the phone at all. As far as I'm aware, all you need to do is bridge the gap and the signal drops.

Markeh
17-07-2010, 02:01 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't want to buy a phone that HAS to have a case to work properly.

kk.
17-07-2010, 03:59 PM
You have to squeeze tight on my phone for it to lose signal :S

xxMATTGxx
17-07-2010, 04:08 PM
You have to squeeze tight on my phone for it to lose signal :S

Edit: Never mind you said your phone. I thought you said something else!

Recursion
17-07-2010, 06:12 PM
Likewise on my iPhone 4. People on here get so carrie away with isolated people on blogs/YouTube videos who are practically strangling their iPhones, and certain people on here blow it all out if proportion. Makes me laugh also, they're tryin to tell me what my iPhone 4 does. Well guess what, I don't find gripping it a problem, because I don't strangle my iPhone.

I'll take my free bumper, thanks. :)

@above; neither does the iPhone 4.

EDIT; sorry I rofld. View this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnLxY21CCf4&feature=youtube_

So, HTC fan boys, you say your phones are so perfect, yet they have exactly the same problem.

/thread

Uhh... at least it's moving down to the lower speeds like a mobile phone should do! lmao

GommeInc
17-07-2010, 07:23 PM
Does anyone else read the title of this thread thinking "Apple is holding something?! Shame their phones do not follow suit!" :P

Recursion
17-07-2010, 08:02 PM
Does anyone else read the title of this thread thinking "Apple is holding something?! Shame their phones do not follow suit!" :P

Could be taken in so many different ways :8

Trinity
17-07-2010, 08:11 PM
Does anyone else read the title of this thread thinking "Apple is holding something?! Shame their phones do not follow suit!" :P

I've been resisting the urge to say something about them holding the conference wrong. It's not been easy.

GommeInc
17-07-2010, 09:43 PM
Could be taken in so many different ways :8
Now that just looks dirty ;)


I've been resisting the urge to say something about them holding the conference wrong. It's not been easy.
Damn you Apple! Did anyone else see the new IT Crowd episode yesterday? Moss saying to Jen when he found an iPhone in a grabbing machine was legendary:

"I means I can get an iPhone with out paying Apple any money!" or something to that effect, was legendary :P

StefanWolves
18-07-2010, 11:01 PM
Wow my UserCP sucks, said people didn't reply to this thread when after I posted, strange.

Anyway, I HAVE TO squeeze my phone VERY hard to lose signal. Other iPhones may do this but mine doesn't. Also, it makes me laugh people here are still denying that their beloved HTC doesn't loose signal when held in a certain way, yet the video proves you wrong and you still deny it.

Btw my name is 'Stefan', not 'Stefen', but then again you knew that.

Flisker
19-07-2010, 04:46 AM
Wow my UserCP sucks, said people didn't reply to this thread when after I posted, strange.

Anyway, I HAVE TO squeeze my phone VERY hard to lose signal. Other iPhones may do this but mine doesn't. Also, it makes me laugh people here are still denying that their beloved HTC doesn't loose signal when held in a certain way, yet the video proves you wrong and you still deny it.

Btw my name is 'Stefan', not 'Stefen', but then again you knew that.
The Google Nexus One isn't exactly HTC's phone as such, sure they make it, but it still isn't their phone and I'm sure Google specified how they wanted it to be made. All I'm saying is, my Desire doesn't lose a bar of signal... I can even record it if you think that will help?

StefanWolves
19-07-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm just taking the word of YouTube and blogs on this case, much like you guys are!

I can record me holding my iPhone 4, if you like? To prove that it isn't as bad as people say.

xxMATTGxx
19-07-2010, 10:36 AM
Wow my UserCP sucks, said people didn't reply to this thread when after I posted, strange.

Anyway, I HAVE TO squeeze my phone VERY hard to lose signal. Other iPhones may do this but mine doesn't. Also, it makes me laugh people here are still denying that their beloved HTC doesn't loose signal when held in a certain way, yet the video proves you wrong and you still deny it.

Btw my name is 'Stefan', not 'Stefen', but then again you knew that.

Denying? No. We are saying when they do (that's if they do) lose signal, they switch to something called EDGE or it might even be "G" or whatever and then get FULL signal again. Which that youtube video you posted shows quite nicely... But do you see the iPhone 4 doing that? No you don't. You see your hand or finger bridging the antenna on the left hand side which then makes it unable to do any calls, any texts or even load internet pages. Where as that Nexus One can still WORK as a phone. You seem to be quite missing that part?

Oh and can I make this VERY CLEAR. Not everyone here owns an HTC phone that runs the Android Operating system. Other uses have OTHER brands, yes that means other bands such as Sony Ericsson! Here are a list of some other brands that do Android phones to, not just HTC! (Acer, Dell, Garmin, LG, Motorola, Samsung)


I can record me holding my iPhone 4, if you like? To prove that it isn't as bad as people say.

Already seen the videos but you were always wrong when you kept saying "OH YOU HAVE TO GRIP IT" when people proved that you didn't a long time ago.

StefanWolves
19-07-2010, 11:12 AM
Denying? No. We are saying when they do (that's if they do) lose signal, they switch to something called EDGE or it might even be "G" or whatever and then get FULL signal again. Which that youtube video you posted shows quite nicely... But do you see the iPhone 4 doing that? No you don't. You see your hand or finger bridging the antenna on the left hand side which then makes it unable to do any calls, any texts or even load internet pages. Where as that Nexus One can still WORK as a phone. You seem to be quite missing that part?

Oh and can I make this VERY CLEAR. Not everyone here owns an HTC phone that runs the Android Operating system. Other uses have OTHER brands, yes that means other bands such as Sony Ericsson! Here are a list of some other brands that do Android phones to, not just HTC! (Acer, Dell, Garmin, LG, Motorola, Samsung)



Already seen the videos but you were always wrong when you kept saying "OH YOU HAVE TO GRIP IT" when people proved that you didn't a long time ago.


You seem to forget that there are EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. Not ALL iPhones are that bad. Yes mine loses one or two bars when squeezed in a certain way.

I don't understand your edge argument, the phone going onto edge if squeezed is nothing to brag about, really.

xxMATTGxx
19-07-2010, 11:14 AM
You seem to forget that there are EXCEPTIONAL circumstances. Not ALL iPhones are that bad. Yes mine loses one or two bars when squeezed in a certain way.

I don't understand your edge argument, the phone going onto edge if squeezed is nothing to brag about, really.

We don't understand your HTC argument.

I'm not bragging, I'm proving a point. Other phones can switch to other connections such as EDGE, 3G and what not and get the signal back. (That might not always work) But due to how the iPhone 4 works it doesn't do that. Hence you saying "But the nexus one has the same problem" when clearly, it doesn't.

GommeInc
19-07-2010, 01:01 PM
Wow my UserCP sucks, said people didn't reply to this thread when after I posted, strange.

Anyway, I HAVE TO squeeze my phone VERY hard to lose signal. Other iPhones may do this but mine doesn't. Also, it makes me laugh people here are still denying that their beloved HTC doesn't loose signal when held in a certain way, yet the video proves you wrong and you still deny it.

Btw my name is 'Stefan', not 'Stefen', but then again you knew that.
You haven't read any posts have you? It doesn't lose signal in the same way, you can still make calls and swap data, while with the iPhone it drops calls and literally stops in its tracks :/ At least you've realised HTC and Android are two different things - HTC = manufacturer and Android = OS. My SE x10i has none of these issues, unlike the iPhone. Heck, it's not really the signal problem which is a joke, it's the fact Apple are treating their customers like idiots. It's insulting Apple think throwing covers will solve the problem, after they were telling people "it's just a phone" and that you're "holding it wrong."

danzooo
19-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Woohoo, free bumpers! I'm well getting a blue one! :P

but tbh you can't blame them for not trying, they're clearly aware they've made a boob of the whole phone and i think offering people refunds and contract terminations is the fairest thing to do within reason.

Recursion
19-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Put it this way, yes the iPhone 4 has problems but would you turn it down if you were offered one? I know I wouldn't :P

Flisker
19-07-2010, 05:55 PM
Put it this way, yes the iPhone 4 has problems but would you turn it down if you were offered one? I know I wouldn't :P
I think I'd honestly say I would turn down an iPhone 4 if I was offered one, they just don't appeal to me really.

GommeInc
20-07-2010, 11:42 AM
I love the internet:

http://i.imgur.com/N6v4K.png

And here's an animation done by that company that did some animations revolving around the UK elections. A must watch, it involves lightsabres and a reality distortion field :P

http://mashable.com/2010/07/19/the-iphone-4-animation/

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