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hah
15-07-2010, 09:32 PM
im sorry but if someone is on internet that cannot support file sizes higher than 58.6 KB then there is something wrong. im guessing this was introduced when people still used dial up? I tried to upload a new rihanna avatar and i couldn't!!!!!!!!!!!!

im not asking for it to be dramatically increased
just something likee 200kb (h)

Moh
15-07-2010, 09:38 PM
I was thinking that, I had to reduce the quality of mine to upload it :(

Hecktix
15-07-2010, 10:09 PM
I don't see a problem with this if a plausible figure can be suggested

Jamesy
15-07-2010, 10:11 PM
anything between 100-200kb seems reasonable to me.

Trinity
16-07-2010, 09:27 AM
Won't changing it have a pretty big effect on the forum's bandwidth though?
If not/you don't mind, then I agree with Jamesy.

Although, I just had a look at all of my avatar-sized pictures on my laptop, 90% of them were much lower than 58.6kb, so it's already perfectly possible to have a decent avatar without going over the limit.

Jamesy
16-07-2010, 09:30 AM
Won't changing it have a pretty big effect on the forum's bandwidth though?
If not/you don't mind, then I agree with Jamesy.

Although, I just had a look at all of my avatar-sized pictures on my laptop, 90% of them were much lower than 58.6kb, so it's already perfectly possible to have a decent avatar without going over the limit.

Although true, most browsers cache images in some way or another. I'd say 100kb is more than sufficient, rethinking my suggestion above.

dbgtz
16-07-2010, 10:27 AM
what you could do (if you introduce this rise) is just have an option to hide avatars and signatures for people who do not want to see them (so not hiding youre own more hiding other peoples).

GommeInc
16-07-2010, 10:41 AM
Although, I just had a look at all of my avatar-sized pictures on my laptop, 90% of them were much lower than 58.6kb, so it's already perfectly possible to have a decent avatar without going over the limit.
Animated GIF images take up more space :) A small avatar would be about 30.9 kB (going from Jamesy's). Lower the quality as you do with any animated GIF would lower it to about 15 kB, then add other images to make the animated GIF and you're over the limit :) 100 kB or just under would be fine though, too much and you might experience problems.

HotelUser
18-07-2010, 04:53 AM
Animated GIF images take up more space :) A small avatar would be about 30.9 kB (going from Jamesy's). Lower the quality as you do with any animated GIF would lower it to about 15 kB, then add other images to make the animated GIF and you're over the limit :) 100 kB or just under would be fine though, too much and you might experience problems.

Yes, although most major browsers just cache these images, where as some images (such as the one in my signature for example) are generated on pageload therefore cannot be cached!

Blinger$
18-07-2010, 04:58 AM
I don't know if its possible to do it, but what if you make the browser do all the "hard work"? Its the data: tag thing.. Not sure if it is possible, so if it isn't ignore this ;)

http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data


^^^ that thing

HotelUser
18-07-2010, 05:03 AM
I don't know if its possible to do it, but what if you make the browser do all the "hard work"? Its the data: tag thing.. Not sure if it is possible, so if it isn't ignore this ;)

http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data


^^^ that thing

If we did that (not sure if it's installable to vBulletin) then the contents of the image would still have to be loaded from a variable within SQL, and transferring the contents of an image via an ASCII transfer is probably not the best of ideas :P

Recursion
18-07-2010, 09:07 AM
At the moment the page is only 1.8MB, assuming everyone on Page 1 of this thread had a 200KB avatar the page size is going to increase to 3.2MB at least, just remember, web pages need to be as small as possible and is really going to screw with people who use phones, I can't stand the "Mobile Theme" so I generally stick to the Summer theme when I'm on 3G or HSDPA, seeing as our Tapatalk idea is dying :P

Jamesy
18-07-2010, 10:12 AM
I don't know if its possible to do it, but what if you make the browser do all the "hard work"? Its the data: tag thing.. Not sure if it is possible, so if it isn't ignore this ;)

http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data


^^^ that thing
that's probably the way vBulletin stores images/ attachments into the database, the issue being that the database size grow drastically and it's a lot slower.

@ Tom

Well really the mobile argument is not really valid since the main themes are designed for desktop browsing. What would the page size be at 100kb per avatar? Not everyone would have an avatar so large either and most people are on broadband that could easily cope with a minor increase.

Blinger$
19-07-2010, 03:04 AM
that's probably the way vBulletin stores images/ attachments into the database, the issue being that the database size grow drastically and it's a lot slower.
Oh well, i don't mind what happens.. :p

If we did that (not sure if it's installable to vBulletin) then the contents of the image would still have to be loaded from a variable within SQL, and transferring the contents of an image via an ASCII transfer is probably not the best of ideas :P
Isn't it just a string though and then the browser does all the work?

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